question about a chart

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Hello Philippe,

You wrote :

" she was badly injured

" In a bicycle accident in November 1965, and lost one of

her kidneys. I think

" this is signified by Mars lord of VII (kidneys) associated

with Venus lord

" of VI. The accident was during Moon/Venus. Venus has the

lowest score for

" VII (accidents). The role of the Moon is not so clear to

me. "

I think your reasoning is correct and very good. I should

see the influence of the Moon as follows:

7th house is considered as " accidents " . Lord A for this

house is Mercury. Main lord is usually related (not always)

to lord A, so here we see that the Moon is in Mercury's

house and this fits then nicely.

Your analysis about mother's death is very accurate.

I don't have a valid explanation for her father's death

either. I could always find one but it's too far fetched.

Perhaps Krushna could find an explanation ????

As to the husband's chart. I checked the marriage and birth

of the children but it seems that a Libra ascendant works

better for their birth.

He married in Saturn/Venus and marriage is a 5th and 12th

house matter. Venus having enough points for those houses

for both ascendants. As to the " quality' of the marriage, I

find the Libra asc worse than scorpio because with Libra

the 6th lord is aspecting the 7th and Mars is in the 7th

(Mars reflecting the character of the wife) The nodal axis

also runs through 1/7 houses. The scorpio asc is not so bad

for marriage I think.

As to the birth of the children : child 1 is born in

Saturn/Mars for both asc. Taking the 5th as B Mars cannot

give results for scorpio ascendant because he aspects

houses C and A but he works fine for Libra asc as lord of D

with 14 points.

Child 2 is born in Saturn/Rahu. Rahu represents Venus,

Jupiter and Mars. As Rahu is in Mars nakshatra and navamsa,

I think he acted for this planet but I agree that this

birth also works fine with Scorpio asc.

As to the crisis in the marriage in 2001 (Mercury/Mars) for

Libra we see that Mercury is lord of A for the 2nd ( 8th

for the 7th = marriage) and Mars is lord of E and in E. He

has not enough points however to bring a divorce and all

points for Mars are very low. But both asc work for this

crisis and for all events except for the birth of his first

child.

I think you're doing fine in this system and I'm glad

somebody else jumped on the wagon

Best regards

Margarita

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita and other members,

 

>Margarita: I don't have a valid explanation for her father's death

> either. I could always find one but it's too far fetched.

> Perhaps Krushna could find an explanation ????

>

 

Please check navamansha chart and saturn in Navamansha

chart.

krushna

[Guest guest]

OK, Thanks

Krushna, Yes, Saturn is samdharmi to the Moon because he is in Moon’s navamsha.

So Moon acts for Saturn who has low points and cannot give results.

Best

regards

Margarita

 

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Tuesday, January 14, 2003

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Re: question about a chart

 

Dear Margarita and other members,

 

>Margarita: I don't have a valid explanation for her father's death

> either. I could always find one but it's too far fetched.

> Perhaps Krushna could find an explanation ????

>

 

Please check

navamansha chart and saturn in Navamansha

chart.

krushna

 

 

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Dear Krushnaji,Philippe,Margarita,

 

1) Studying for Delay.

Shani is aspecting House B, and LOC in Rasi and neither lords of A,B

or C in Navamsa so delay is Moderate.

Shani is not in the Nakshatra of Guru nor is being aspected by Guru.

 

So delay of about 22-24.5 years.

 

During that time Shani/Venus running, Venus is LOE and yes it has

only 11 points. (This chart has Mars the lord of 6th in 6th house

with 5 bindus so we consider it as having 8-5 i.e. 3 bindus).

 

For result, it does not matter if Venus has less points but is eager

to give result so it can give result. Narrowing it down to sub

period in antra. Since Shani is giving moderate delay, Venus antra

can give moderate delay so year is 1981, so second 1/3rd sub. I

probably would say When Sun transitted Mercury and Sun i.e. Sept 17th

thru Sept 26th but Marraige happened during Sept 5th. Krushnaji can

probably verify this. Maybe I am missing something.

 

Now if you notice, Venus is in the Navamsa of 6th lord in Rasi

(samdharmi to 6th lord).

 

This can give temporary arrangement. ???

 

Actually the marriage happened during a good time for the native as

its LOE, but FK Guru is spoilt. If you notice NK Venus has 8 bindus

but aspecting 2nd house (Karak for 2nd house) with -8 bindus. (This

is covered in the worksheet).

 

Mars, Ketu, Rahu, Moon, Sat, Sun, Venus are all associated with the

6th lord again. Planets that are not spoilt are Mercury, Guru. Guru

is again spoilt by being in Libra. So whats left is only Mercury.

So all antras will show some flavour of 6th house meaning problems.

 

Quality of Marriage is given by 1/7th lords from Lagna, sun and moon.

 

Lagna Mars Venus 3:11

Sun Moon Saturn 4:10

Moon Saturn Sun 5:9

 

So it seems ok. Except Moon all planets are strong for 7th house.

Sun has 12 bindus so on borderline and can go either way.

 

Now Lets check friendhip/attraction between his chart and his wife's

chart.

 

1) Saturn of His Chart is Aspecting Mars and Venus of Her chart

(Venus is 6th lord so what is the outcome ???? ).

2) Venus of the Male is sitting in the same place as Saturn of the

female.

 

Mars being 6th lord has 17 points and it is also the 6th lord in the

chart so it can revert. I guess that is why its better to have the

6th lord with less points in Worksheet for Marriage ????

 

I had put ???? in places which I am not too sure of. Maybe Krushnaji

or Margarita can confirm those for me please.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

> Now here's the husband's chart:

> August 2nd, 1958 2:42 pm in Nancy, France (48°41'N, 6°12'E). Lagna

0°15'

> Scorpio, Moon 20°51' Aquarius.

> I rectified the TOB because I thought the Scorpio ascendant was more

> suitable. The official TOB was 2:30pm.

> Jupiter FK is spoiled by being in Libra. It is aspecting Venus and

aspected

> by Mars lord of VI. In SAV, house I gets 24 points and house VII 30

points.

> This suggests that the wife dominated the couple, which is true. I

see no

> other affliction concerning marriage.

> The marriage took place on September 5th 1981 in Saturn/Venus.

Saturn is

> natural samdharmi to Venus, and Venus to Saturn lord of IV=E for

VII. But

> Venus only has 11 points for 7th house in SAV. This doesn't seem so

good.

> The crisis in the couple was in Mercury/Mars. Mars is lord of VI.

It is

> aspecting Jupiter FK.

>

> Of course, your corrections and comments will be welcome.

>

> Best regards

> Philippe