Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Thank your for your detailed answer. I shall try to elucidate what you have said. I am writing my understanding of what you have said in short so that its more clear for list members. I shall write in CAPS. KRUSHNAJI : When such combinations are presents in the chart, Marriage life can not be happy. If it is not break, It do not mean it is happy. ASH : OK. UNDERSTOOD. SO THESE INDICATIONS OF VENUS TO SUN DISTANCE AND GURU IN LIBRA ETC WOULD GIVE US AN IDEA AND THEN WE LOOK FURTHER INTO PLANET PLACEMENT TO SEE ITS MANIFESTATION AND THEN WORKSHEET TO SEE PERIODS WHEN THOSE RESULTS WOULD MANIFEST. KRUSHNAJI : There may be some reason. If mars is strong, yog karak, and assisted by jupiter marriage may not end in break. Relations between husband and wife may not be having love with each other. It may be a part of duty. In India it may be due to local customs. In western In may be due to finencial adjustment. The person having such combinations may have extra marrital relations. ASH : SO HERE YOU ARE USING BASIC INDICATIONS FROM KARAKS AND GURU ETC AND THEN CHECKING FOR OTHER FACTORS LIKE YOGA KARAK, NATURAL QUALITIES OF PLANETS LIKE GURU IS NATURAL BENEFIC, YOGAKARAK I.E. BASED ON ASCENDENT ETC AND THEN USE THAT IDEA IN TANDEM WITH DESHA KAAL PATRA TO SEE HOW RESULTS WILL MANIFEST. KRUSHNAJI : If moon is in Scorpio perticulary in Jestha, person is emotionally more rigid. ASH : MOON IN SCORPIO WOULD MEAN IN A FIXED SIGN. SO THAT WOULD MEAN STABLE MIND. NOW MOON IN JAYESHTA CONSTELLATION WOULD PLACE MOON IN NAVAMSA OF AQUARIUS AGAIN SIGN OF SATURN AND FIXED SIGN. SO MOON BECOMES SAMDHARMI TO SHANI. THIS ALSO WOULD ADD THE PERSON TO BECOME MORE INTELLEGENT AS SUN, MOON AND LAGNA IN MORE SIGNS OF SHANI IN NAVAMSA, DREKKHANA AND TRIMSAMSA MAKES ONE MORE INTELLEGENT. THIS WOULD ALSO PUT MOON IN DREKKHANA OF CANCER ITS OWN SIGN AND IN TRIMSAMSA AGAIN IN SIGN OF CAPRICORN RULED BY SHANI. SO WE ALREADY HAVE 2 SPOTS WHERE MOON GOES INTO SIGN OF SHANI MAKIGN A PERSON HAVING GOOD PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY. SO MOON IN SCORPIO ITS NEECHA SIGN, SCORPIO IS FIXED SIGN SO STABLE MIND, NAKSHATRA OF JAYESHTA I.E. NAVAMSA OF SHANI, DREKKHANA OF CANCER AND TRIMSAMSA OF SHANI AGIAN. IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT ? KRUSHNAJI : If Jupiter is in the fourth place from such Moon, he will not make any unjustice to any body. So he may continue such relations. ASH : HERE YOU ARE USING 4:10 RELATIONSHIP. SO IF SUCH A MOON I.E IN SCORPIO AND IN JAYESHTA CONSTELLATION SO HERE MOON IS BEGIN HELPED BY GURU AS IT BECOMES SAMDHARMI TO IT. GURU IS A NATURAL BENEFIC SO IT WILL NOT LET MARRIAGE BREAK MY MAKING THE MIND MORE STRONGER AND MORE BENEVOLENT AS PER GURUS NATURAL NATURE KRUSHNAJI : If Moon is in Leo, In the constellation of Venus, again no break. I think you can answer the reason for this. ASH : IF MOON IS IN LEO AND IN NAKSHATRA OF VENUS THEN THIS IS ESPECIALLY FOR ARIES LAGNA WHERE VENUS BECOMES NATURAL KARAK AND IS ALSO FUNCTIONAL KARAK SO SUCH A MOON WILL NOT BREAK MARRIAGE. EVEN IF SHANI FOR ARIES LAGNA IS IN 5TH HOUSE IN LEO AND IN NAKSHATRA OF VENUS THEN SUCH A SHANI WILL NOT CAUSE FULL DELAY FOR 7TH HOUSE MATTERS. INFACT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY DELAY AS SHANI LOOSES ITS DELAY CAUSING NATURE FOR MARRIAGE. KRUSHNAJI : Again in some other mail you have asked about transit. In transit the planet gives the result of 4th and 8th house from it self ( if it have more points for the place). ASH : WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT A BASIC LAW IN EARLY LESSONS AND WE ALSO CONSIDER THAT WHEN CREATING A WORKSHEET WHICH IS PLANETS IN HOUSE D OR E ALSO BECOME EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS AS THEY ACT LIKE THE HOUSE LORDS SO IF IN D OR E HOUSE THEY ACT LIKE LOD AND LOE. SO WHEN A PLANET HAS MORE POINTS I.E. GREATER THAN 4 BINDUS AND 4TH HOUSE FROM WHERE ITS PLACED BECOMES HOUSE D AND 8TH FROM IT BECOMES HOUSE E. FOR EG. SHANI IS PLACED IN 4TH HOUSE WITH 5 BINDUS THEN IT WILL BECOME EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS FOR 7TH HOUSE (I.E. FOR 7TH HOUSE AS HOUSE B, 4TH HOUSE BECOMES HOUSE D) AND 11TH HOUSE (FOR 11TH HOUSE AS B, 4TH HOUSE BECOMES HOUSE E). THAT IS WHY IN SHORT WE SAY A PLANET WITH MORE POINTS I.E. GREATER THAN 4 BINDUS GIVES RESULT FOR 4TH AND 8TH FROM ITSELF. KRUSHNAJI : here is Zero in any place then Mars and Saturn will give bad result, worries etc. ASH : WHEN A NATURAL MALEFIC TRANSITS A HOUSE WITH 0 POINTS IT, ZERO POINTS MEANS THAT ZERO PLANETS ARE SUPPORTING THE PURPOSE OF THAT HOUSE DUE TO A PLANET. NOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHEN NATURAL MALEIFICS TRANSIT SUCH A HOUSE, THERE IS NO PLANET THAT WILL OPPOSE THE NATURAL MALEFICS AND THEY ARE FULLY FREE TO CAUSE HAVOC AND SHOW THEIR MALIFICIANCE. THAT IS WHY WE STUDY SAV FOR ZERO POINTS. KRUSHNAJI : If the planet is 2nd lord, having its transi from 4th house, it will creat shortage of funds, or more debt.( no incoming , 11th house) ASH : KRUSHNAJI, THIS PART I HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD. ONLY PART I KNOW IS THAT 2ND LORD CAUSES WORRIES AND TENTION I UNDERSTAND, HOW IS THE LINK YOU ARE GETTING DURING TRANSIT. YOU ARE SOME HOW LINKING THE NATURAL PROPERTIES OF 2ND LORD WITH TRANSITS. HERE HOW TO TAKE MORE POINTS OR LESS POINTS ? DO WE TAKE IT FROM NATAL CHART OR FROM TRANSIT CHART ? CAN U CLARIFY THIS PHENOMENON PLEASE. KRUSHNAJI : No planet directly gives the result for the house it is having it's transit. Apply the similar theory. Now if the planet is having it's transit from it's own sign, uccha sign, Multrikon sign, Apply multiplying factor. Then consider it's point. Result will be accordingly. ASH : FROM OUR TRANSIT LESSONS WE KNOW ABOUT HOW TO CONSIDER POINTS. I HAVE UNDERSTOOD OF APPLYING THE MULTIPLICATION FACTOR AND THEN CONSIDERING POINTS SO. THIS MEANS THAT ALL THESE EXALTED PLANETS IF THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ANTRA OF 2ND LORD IF ITS RUNNING THE EVEN MORE WORRIES AND DEPRESSIONS. IF PROBLEMS ARE INDICATED AS PER NATAL CHART THEN SUCH PROBLEMS WILL BE FURTHER AGGRIVATED... IN CHARTS WHOS HAVE GOOD ANTRA RUNNING AND IT PLANET HAVE GOOD PONTS THEN MUCH BETTER PERIOD IS EXPECTED RATHER FELT AS PER MULTIPLICAITON FACTOR.... KRUSHNAJI CAN YOU CONFIRM, WE APPLY MULTIPLICATION FACTOR AND THEN CONSIDER POINTS FROM SAV OF NATAL CHART TO GET TOTAL POINT FOR THE DAY ? KRUSHNAJI : I have given my answer in short. Other members may not get clear idea. Ash, I think you can get clear understanding from this. ASH : I SHALL TRY TO SIMPLIFY YOUR ANSWERS AS MUCH AS I CAN SO ITS EASIER FOR LIST MEMBERS TO FOLLOW IT. PLEASE GO THROUGH MY ANSWERS AND CORRECT ME IN PLACES IF MY UNDERSTANDING HAS NOT BEEN CORRECT THOUGH. BECAUSE WHAT I THINK I HAVE UNDERSTOOD MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU THINK I HAVE UNDERSTOOD, THOSE 2 THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. (HA HA HA). KRUSHNAJI : If required please clarify this for other members. If you find any difficulty. I will help you. ASH : I HAVE ASKED YOU TO LOOK INTO MY ANSWER OF MOON BEING IN JAYESHTA AND QUESTIONS AROUND TRANSITS. CAN YOU CLARIFY THOSE FOR ME PLEASE WHEN YOU GET SOME TIME. Thanks krushna THANKING YOU, CHEERS !!! ASH > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Gurudev Krushnaji, > > Pranam, > > > > I was wondering that have you in your years of research have you > come > > across any chart with say Guru in libra, venus spoilt i.e. either > > distance from sun to venus is < 3 or > 43 degrees and shani > aspecting > > such venus and a luminiary in Rasi or Navamsa having a stable and > > nice marriage ? > > > > Under what conditions can such a chart still give a happy and > stable > > marriage even if such conditions exist. > > > > Are there any over-riding factors that can change such things ? > > > > Can you share some of your experience. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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