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Hello

Rajashri,

I don’t

know how exactly the Saturn/Mars aspect will be manifested. It surely is not comfortable

for the native and implies some kind of frustration and overcompensation but

this would require a deeper study of the chart in general.

As to her

Moon dasa/bukti. Moon is the weakest planet (points) in the worksheet and she

has barely enough points to give results for the 1oth and 5th

houses, but as she is samdharmi to Mars, she could indeed give results for him.

I don’t know when elections take place. According to the chart I casted her Moon/Moon starts on 14 sept 2004.

Best

regards

Margarita

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Rajashri Naik

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Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:26

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Marriage and Married life

 

Dear Margarita,

Thanks for insight provided.

Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to

loose from its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon

can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

After general elections in India, which is due in

this 2004, can she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from

second half of 2004.

As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by

Saturn, it is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or 11

are connected. I may wrong also!

At present I don't have work sheet and chart!

Thanks,

Rajashri.

 

 

Hello

Rajashi,

I

don’t think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc Mars is Raja yoga

being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the 9th

house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th

house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only 1

point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A strong 6th

house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will known for her

activities. I don’t know how this is related to her love for animals because

all people with strong 6th houses are surely not animal lovers.

As

to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to be taken with a “grain

of salt”. I’ve seen many charts of ladies with such a Venus and they are most

respectable but usually very independent and not married. In a traditional

culture like India, this is perhaps not appreciated but here it’s OK. By the

way, I’ve also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single ! but I

don’t have enough experience to make any judgement on that.

Best

regards

Margarita

 

 

 

 

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Hello Ash,

Yes that’s

a good question to ask. I also wondered how an aspect of Saturn in the male

chart on Mars in a female chart could help in a relationship. Perhaps this has

something to do with Indian culture were the wife is supposed to play a more

secondary role. A lady with a strong Mars like last chart we did doesn’t fit

too well in Indian traditional cultural context. So if the husband’s Saturn

aspects such a Mars, it would temper it. But this is just a guess. I’m curious

to hear what Krushna has to say

Best

regards

Margarita

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ashsam73

[ashsam73]

Wednesday, April 30, 2003

11:35 AM

 

Subject:

Re: Marriage and Married life

 

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Rajashri ,

 

This mail is addressed to Margarita so pardon my intervention. I

wanted to point out something and ask a question to Krushnaji of

some explanation.

 

You wrote " >

> Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from

its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon

can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

"

 

In this system debilitation planets cast benefic aspects. For

quality of results we check rasi exlatiation and debilitation.

 

Mars in Cancer is better if its with low points. Yes it will be bad

for house its placed in but it will definitely cast better aspects

to house its aspecting i.e. 3 other houses.

 

Also we consider this when reading chart regarding aspects of

planets that are debilitated in sign.

 

Similarly too many exalted planets or in a chart when more planets

are in own, multrikon or exalted houses then their aspects based on

same theory is even more malefic if it has high points.. so overall

chart becomes weak. We had done some charts based on this principle.

 

Also Mars and Moon and Sun are natural samdharmi being yogakara so I

do not know if Mars will loose by being placed in cancer... or I

have not understood what would Mars loose ? Can you explain what

you meant ?

 

Regarding 2nd point about Shani to Mars aspect, in some email in the

past I remember Krushnaji saying that such combination will break a

relationship or was it in lesson on love marriage I cant remember

off the bat .. but I do succently remember that such combinations

break relationships.

 

On the same token Shani cancels Mars's dosha I also do not

understand the theory of that (I think we also use that in checking

chemistry between couple when we check aspect of Shani on Mars ?

Maybe Krushnaji can tell us a little bit on that or give some hint

in that direction ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Rajashri Naik "

<rajaloli@h...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

>

> Thanks for insight provided.

>

> Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from

its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon

can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

>

> After general elections in India, which is due in this 2004, can

she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from

second half of 2004.

>

> As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by Saturn, it

is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or 11

are connected. I may wrong also!

>

> At present I don't have work sheet and chart!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Rajashri.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello Rajashi,

>

> I don't think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc Mars

is Raja yoga being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the 9th

house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th

house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only 1

point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A strong

6th house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will

known for her activities. I don't know how this is related to her

love for animals because all people with strong 6th houses are

surely not animal lovers.

>

> As to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to be

taken with a " grain of salt " . I've seen many charts of ladies

with

such a Venus and they are most respectable but usually very

independent and not married. In a traditional culture like India,

this is perhaps not appreciated but here it's OK. By the way, I've

also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single ! but I

don't have enough experience to make any judgement on that.

>

> Best regards

>

> Margarita

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Margarita,

Thanks for insight provided.

Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

After general elections in India, which is due in this 2004, can she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from second half of 2004.

As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by Saturn, it is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or 11 are connected. I may wrong also!

At present I don't have work sheet and chart!

Thanks,

Rajashri.

 

 

Hello Rajashi,

I don’t think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc Mars is Raja yoga being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the 9th house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only 1 point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A strong 6th house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will known for her activities. I don’t know how this is related to her love for animals because all people with strong 6th houses are surely not animal lovers.

As to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to be taken with a “grain of salt”. I’ve seen many charts of ladies with such a Venus and they are most respectable but usually very independent and not married. In a traditional culture like India, this is perhaps not appreciated but here it’s OK. By the way, I’ve also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single ! but I don’t have enough experience to make any judgement on that.

Best regards

Margarita

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Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Rajashri ,

 

This mail is addressed to Margarita so pardon my intervention. I

wanted to point out something and ask a question to Krushnaji of

some explanation.

 

You wrote " >

> Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from

its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon

can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

"

 

In this system debilitation planets cast benefic aspects. For

quality of results we check rasi exlatiation and debilitation.

 

Mars in Cancer is better if its with low points. Yes it will be bad

for house its placed in but it will definitely cast better aspects

to house its aspecting i.e. 3 other houses.

 

Also we consider this when reading chart regarding aspects of

planets that are debilitated in sign.

 

Similarly too many exalted planets or in a chart when more planets

are in own, multrikon or exalted houses then their aspects based on

same theory is even more malefic if it has high points.. so overall

chart becomes weak. We had done some charts based on this principle.

 

Also Mars and Moon and Sun are natural samdharmi being yogakara so I

do not know if Mars will loose by being placed in cancer... or I

have not understood what would Mars loose ? Can you explain what

you meant ?

 

Regarding 2nd point about Shani to Mars aspect, in some email in the

past I remember Krushnaji saying that such combination will break a

relationship or was it in lesson on love marriage I cant remember

off the bat .. but I do succently remember that such combinations

break relationships.

 

On the same token Shani cancels Mars's dosha I also do not

understand the theory of that (I think we also use that in checking

chemistry between couple when we check aspect of Shani on Mars ?

Maybe Krushnaji can tell us a little bit on that or give some hint

in that direction ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Rajashri Naik "

<rajaloli@h...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

>

> Thanks for insight provided.

>

> Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from

its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon

can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

>

> After general elections in India, which is due in this 2004, can

she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from

second half of 2004.

>

> As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by Saturn, it

is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or 11

are connected. I may wrong also!

>

> At present I don't have work sheet and chart!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Rajashri.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello Rajashi,

>

> I don't think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc Mars

is Raja yoga being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the 9th

house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th

house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only 1

point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A strong

6th house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will

known for her activities. I don't know how this is related to her

love for animals because all people with strong 6th houses are

surely not animal lovers.

>

> As to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to be

taken with a " grain of salt " . I've seen many charts of ladies with

such a Venus and they are most respectable but usually very

independent and not married. In a traditional culture like India,

this is perhaps not appreciated but here it's OK. By the way, I've

also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single ! but I

don't have enough experience to make any judgement on that.

>

> Best regards

>

> Margarita

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Dear Margarita,

The reason that Saturn cancels Mars dosha is that he is the Ucchanath for Mars.

Chandrashekhar.

 

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dmlettens

Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:03 PM

RE: Re: Marriage and Married life

 

 

Hello Ash,

Yes that’s a good question to ask. I also wondered how an aspect of Saturn in the male chart on Mars in a female chart could help in a relationship. Perhaps this has something to do with Indian culture were the wife is supposed to play a more secondary role. A lady with a strong Mars like last chart we did doesn’t fit too well in Indian traditional cultural context. So if the husband’s Saturn aspects such a Mars, it would temper it. But this is just a guess. I’m curious to hear what Krushna has to say

Best regards

Margarita

ashsam73 [ashsam73]Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Marriage and Married life

 

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Rajashri ,This mail is addressed to Margarita so pardon my intervention. I wanted to point out something and ask a question to Krushnaji of some explanation.You wrote "> > Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi."In this system debilitation planets cast benefic aspects. For quality of results we check rasi exlatiation and debilitation. Mars in Cancer is better if its with low points. Yes it will be bad for house its placed in but it will definitely cast better aspects to house its aspecting i.e. 3 other houses.Also we consider this when reading chart regarding aspects of planets that are debilitated in sign.Similarly too many exalted planets or in a chart when more planets are in own, multrikon or exalted houses then their aspects based on same theory is even more malefic if it has high points.. so overall chart becomes weak. We had done some charts based on this principle.Also Mars and Moon and Sun are natural samdharmi being yogakara so I do not know if Mars will loose by being placed in cancer... or I have not understood what would Mars loose ? Can you explain what you meant ?Regarding 2nd point about Shani to Mars aspect, in some email in the past I remember Krushnaji saying that such combination will break a relationship or was it in lesson on love marriage I cant remember off the bat .. but I do succently remember that such combinations break relationships.On the same token Shani cancels Mars's dosha I also do not understand the theory of that (I think we also use that in checking chemistry between couple when we check aspect of Shani on Mars ? Maybe Krushnaji can tell us a little bit on that or give some hint in that direction ? Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , "Rajashri Naik" <rajaloli@h...> wrote:> Dear Margarita,> > Thanks for insight provided.> > Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose from its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by Moon can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.> > After general elections in India, which is due in this 2004, can she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from second half of 2004.> > As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by Saturn, it is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or 11 are connected. I may wrong also!> > At present I don't have work sheet and chart!> > Thanks,> > Rajashri.> > > > > > Hello Rajashi,> > I don't think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc Mars is Raja yoga being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the 9th house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only 1 point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A strong 6th house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will known for her activities. I don't know how this is related to her love for animals because all people with strong 6th houses are surely not animal lovers.> > As to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to be taken with a "grain of salt". I've seen many charts of ladies with such a Venus and they are most respectable but usually very independent and not married. In a traditional culture like India, this is perhaps not appreciated but here it's OK. By the way, I've also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single ! but I don't have enough experience to make any judgement on that.> > Best regards> > Margarita

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

Interesting. But what does this mean. I want to understand the

Ashtakavarga system reasoning behind this. Let me explain. Once

Krushnaji had asked us a question and reasoning behind why are

Malefics better of in Dushtana or Upachaya.

The reason using this system was very clear. When natural malefics

are in dushtana or upachaya they aspect either of House A,B or C for

death so they themselves cannot give death or retract from doing

so. I think in texts malefics and benefics are given w.r.t. lagna.

 

Similarly in this system we are using aspect of Shani on Mars and

also in this system we say a planet is exalted when the planet has

more than 4 points. Sign exaltation we get by using the

multiplication factor worksheet to show how the result will be

felt.. but that those points are not considered for timing. Its

only for how results will be felt.

 

I am interested to know the Ashtakavarga system reason behind this

part and what does it mean in general and why do we see this

condition ? Similarly what does Rahu's aspect on Venus or Mars

show ?

 

I understand Venus and Mars's aspect or when we overlap chart we

check Male Venus to Female Mars. This is for compatibility as venus

is the barometer of male sexuality and mars is barometer for

female. So we check this condition.

 

I beleive these conditions i.e. checking the aspect of shani, venus,

rahu and mars has overriding effects on all doshas of a chart. Such

charts with very good compatibility can override say marriage

performed in 6th house or in low significator as the attraction felt

is a lot.. and that may cause the couple to be together....

 

Will also wait for Krushnaji to comment on the same it will be

intersting...

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " Chandrashekhar "

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> The reason that Saturn cancels Mars dosha is that he is the

Ucchanath for Mars.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> dmlettens

>

> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:03 PM

> RE: Re: Marriage and Married

life

>

>

> Hello Ash,

>

> Yes that's a good question to ask. I also wondered how an aspect

of Saturn in the male chart on Mars in a female chart could help in

a relationship. Perhaps this has something to do with Indian culture

were the wife is supposed to play a more secondary role. A lady with

a strong Mars like last chart we did doesn't fit too well in Indian

traditional cultural context. So if the husband's Saturn aspects

such a Mars, it would temper it. But this is just a guess. I'm

curious to hear what Krushna has to say

>

> Best regards

>

> Margarita

>

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:35 AM

>

> Re: Marriage and Married life

>

>

>

> Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Rajashri ,

>

> This mail is addressed to Margarita so pardon my intervention. I

> wanted to point out something and ask a question to Krushnaji of

> some explanation.

>

> You wrote " >

> > Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose

from

> its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by

Moon

> can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

> "

>

> In this system debilitation planets cast benefic aspects. For

> quality of results we check rasi exlatiation and debilitation.

>

> Mars in Cancer is better if its with low points. Yes it will be

bad

> for house its placed in but it will definitely cast better

aspects

> to house its aspecting i.e. 3 other houses.

>

> Also we consider this when reading chart regarding aspects of

> planets that are debilitated in sign.

>

> Similarly too many exalted planets or in a chart when more

planets

> are in own, multrikon or exalted houses then their aspects based

on

> same theory is even more malefic if it has high points.. so

overall

> chart becomes weak. We had done some charts based on this

principle.

>

> Also Mars and Moon and Sun are natural samdharmi being yogakara

so I

> do not know if Mars will loose by being placed in cancer... or I

> have not understood what would Mars loose ? Can you explain

what

> you meant ?

>

> Regarding 2nd point about Shani to Mars aspect, in some email in

the

> past I remember Krushnaji saying that such combination will

break a

> relationship or was it in lesson on love marriage I cant

remember

> off the bat .. but I do succently remember that such

combinations

> break relationships.

>

> On the same token Shani cancels Mars's dosha I also do not

> understand the theory of that (I think we also use that in

checking

> chemistry between couple when we check aspect of Shani on

Mars ?

> Maybe Krushnaji can tell us a little bit on that or give some

hint

> in that direction ?

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Rajashri Naik "

> <rajaloli@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Margarita,

> >

> > Thanks for insight provided.

> >

> > Mars is strongly placed in Rasi. How ever it stands to loose

from

> its Navamsha debilitation position. It is my feeling, there by

Moon

> can gain potentials of this yoga karaka planet being samadharmi.

> >

> > After general elections in India, which is due in this 2004,

can

> she acquire a better cabinet ministry? her Moon dasa starts from

> second half of 2004.

> >

> > As regards to Mars with retrogression and aspected by Saturn,

it

> is believed, can cause frigidity sort of thing. If houses 3 or

11

> are connected. I may wrong also!

> >

> > At present I don't have work sheet and chart!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Rajashri.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Rajashi,

> >

> > I don't think Mars is bad because he is strong. For this asc

Mars

> is Raja yoga being lord of the 5th and 10th houses. He is in the

9th

> house which makes a fine yoga. His only weakness is for the 10th

> house perhaps because he is in the 12th from B. But he has only

1

> point so he will give strength to the houses he aspects. A

strong

> 6th house usually stand for reputation and she seems to be will

> known for her activities. I don't know how this is related to

her

> love for animals because all people with strong 6th houses are

> surely not animal lovers.

> >

> > As to Venus and her distance from the Sun; I think this has to

be

> taken with a " grain of salt " . I've seen many charts of ladies

with

> such a Venus and they are most respectable but usually very

> independent and not married. In a traditional culture like

India,

> this is perhaps not appreciated but here it's OK. By the way,

I've

> also seen many girls with a Mars R who prefer to stay single !

but I

> don't have enough experience to make any judgement on that.

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > Margarita

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Margarita,

 

The reason for me saying that is the fact that if 2 people have very

high points in the lagna then both the people have uncompromising

nature or strong personality or are egoistic or adamenet. In that

case if no one gives in and both hold their end then there can be a

divorse or a break up. So that is why I said that if one has high

points and the other has low then by their " default " nature one

would be more giving than the other so lesser chances of arguments

or break up.

 

I also think we need to check navamasa, drekkhana and trimsamsa for

judging the nature too. If more planets are in sign of Guru then

person is more benovelent and god fearing so may not break things up

but that does not mean that he or she cannot have a strong

personality on the other hand if lagna, sun or moon are in sign of

mercury then chances to break are more.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

> Ash, I have some problem about the points in the

> 1st house. You state that if one partner has more

> points it's better for the other to have less. I

> think we then land up in situations were the

> " strong " one takes up most space, finally

> squashing the other. If both partners have high

> points in the 1st, there is a kind of balance of

> give and take and both get enough space to

> breathe. Well, that's how I feel about it anyway.

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

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