Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Dear Ash and Margarita, I have made an exercise on comparing charts of would be couples based on Guru Krushna's lesson. How ever little departure I had to make, as the points given were for applying single chart for ascertaining the overall marriage life of single person. The application of the principle as have been done, with the belief, in no way it distort the original concept. {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25} {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East} 1. The points in the 1st and 7th house of the Sarvashtakavarga chart should be equal or with a difference of no more than 5 points. Here girl has got 36 and boy has got 37. The difference is less than 5 and within 5% range. Hence agreeable. Although there can be chances that, since both of them have got high SAV points in 1st house, clashes on account of excess ego and self centeredness, still good for sexual compatibility. 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house. REFERENCE GIRL BOY PLACEMENT POINTS 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2-12 00 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus Same Sign (Leo) 30 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7-7 10 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus 4-10 10 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer same sign 30 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon 7-7 10 TOTAL 90/180= 50% Above placements are taken, by overlapping or superimposing one chart over the other. 3. As indicated in the worksheet, all the planets must give more than 12 points. In girl's chart except Mercury and in boy's chart except Moon and Saturn, are giving more than 12 points. 1-3/14 = 79%, Matching. 4. To have none of the planets aspecting the A, B and C houses would be the ideal condition. In Girl's chart 4 planets are aspecting. In Boy's chart also 4 planets are aspecting. 1-8/14 = 43%, Matching. 6. There should be no aspect of the sixth lord (the 12th from the 7th house) on the 7th house at the very least. In girl's chart 6th lord is along with 7th lord and it is aspecting House C. In boy's chart 6th lord is placed in House A. 1-3/12 = 75%, Matching. 9. When the sixth lord is in the 4th or the 12th house (meaning the 10th and the 6th from the 7th house) it can reduce the marital happiness. No such placements are observed, hence 100% matching. 10. Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Libra and Pisces are the signs of love. A minimum of 28 points in these signs in the sarvashtakavarga brings more success to the marital life. SIGN GIRL SAV BOY SAV Taurus 34 37 Cancer 22 29 Leo 21 24 Libra 24 33 Pisces 26 37 TOTAL 127 160 % 90% 114% The boy would be more romantic than the Girl. Over all there is Matching. 11. More then 4 points in the above signs by the Sun, the Moon and Venus, makes the person more romantic in his/her love life. Girl has got :(4+7+4)+(5+0+3)+(4+3+2)+(4+3+5)+(5+2+4) :- 9/15 = 60%. Boy has got: (6+4+4)+(3+5+6)+(5+1+5)+(4+7+3)+(6+5+5):- 12/15= 80% 60+80/200 = 70% Matching. 12. Only the sun in Pisces with more then 4 points makes the standards of the person somewhat lower and consequently love is restricted to physical contacts only. Both have got more than 4 points in Pisces for Sun. Hence 00% Matching. 13. More points in the 10th or 1st house, or the 8th or 6th house, although it increases the status of the person will also reduce the happiness in the married life. HOUSE NO. GIRL BOY 10 33 29 01 36 37 08 21 24 06 32 33 3/8 = 37%, Matching TOTAL OVER ALL MATCHING = 75.4/100 = 75.4% I am not cross checking the super imposing effects of the Venus, Mars, Saturn etc., separately, because these factors rather can show tendency towards falling in love. This couple are settling for an 100% arranged marriage. Before the initiation of marriage proposal, they never had seen each other. Guru Krushna has made it clear in the notes that, when marriage do happen in the planetary periods having low points/planets connected with 6th house, that indicates problems in the married life. As such it is anybody's guess what percentage of couples are free from any kind of incompatibility. No strong indications of divorces are seen in both the chart. For Girl, FK and NK both is Venus. Venus is afflicted by 6th lord in 5th, house of relation. That might denote no love marriage. The Venus is aspected by Saturn and Mars in Navamsha. This combination can produce extra passion. Native because her egocentric nature may not be able to enjoy in free atmosphere. All the time during love making she might be out of mood. This dis-satisfaction slightly cause infidelity! Boy has got strong connectivity between Saturn and Moon. This is not healthy for mental peace. His position of Rahu might tempt him for some low morale attitudes. The boy may have to put little extra effort to manage the relation smoothly. The compromising nature shall be more with the boy. In boy chart, Saturn is contributing less than 12 points for 8 houses. Hence it is very weak planet. Over all Saturn dasa shall be very testing time for couple. I shall stop here. Please help with your valuable corrections and inputs, Thanks, Rajashri. Dear Ash and Margarita, Thanks a lot for your help and guidance. Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got 37 SAV points in ascendant. {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25} {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East} The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the consequences, if marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned! What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, which is very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. In one of the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such periods shall be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with House D/E. The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to indicative for a happy and conjugal married life. Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically are there any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to unavoidable and for unseen reasons? As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late marriage. It is believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and Saturn gets closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be postponement of marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong in Boy's chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have transpired with the native (male) in past or not! As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed as late. Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I am really confused! Please liberally provide your inputs. I will come with more points on the boy's chart. Thanks, Rajashri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Rajashri, Its nice to see you working hard and learning the system and making nice comparisions. Thought I would mention that. Some things I wanted to point out though where there was some difference in understanding. I shall point them out in CAPS BELOW. I am sure Margarita or Krushnaji or list members will point out my mistakes. , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > I have made an exercise on comparing charts of would be couples based on Guru Krushna's lesson. How ever little departure I had to make, as the points given were for applying single chart for ascertaining the overall marriage life of single person. > > The application of the principle as have been done, with the belief, in no way it distort the original concept. > > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25} > > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05- 30Hrs East} > > 1. The points in the 1st and 7th house of the Sarvashtakavarga chart should be equal or with a difference of no more than 5 points. ASH : YOU SHOULD NOT CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA AND GIRLS LAGNA. HERE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE AND GIRLS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE TO SEE THIS DIFFERENCE. HIGH POINTS IN BOTH LAGNAS I.E. 36 FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY MEANS BOTH ARE HEAD STRONG, ADAMENT, DO THINGS MY WAY KINDA ATTITUDE. SO GIRL HAS 36/24 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HER CHART GUY HAS 37/26 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HIS CHART. BOTH HAVE MORE THAN 5 POINTS DIFFERENCE. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MAY BE WRONG IS THAT THIS SHOWS THE COMPATIBILITY FELT BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE. IF THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE THEN THE NATIVE MIGHT NOT FEEL HELPED OR SUPPORTED TO HIS OR HER LIKING. MORE DIFFERENCE MEANS FEELS LESS SUPPORTED. WHEN YOU CHECK FOR BOTH LAGNAS IN 2 CHARTS LIKE YOU DID THEN ITS 36 FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY THEN THOSE SHOW THEIR EACH MINDSET. ITS BETTER IN SUCH CASES THAT IF ONE OF THE COUPLE HAS HIGH POINTS IN LAGNA THEN THE OTHER ONE SHOULD HAVE LOW. SO FOR EG IF HERE THE GIRL HAS 36 POINTS IN LAGNA THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THE GUY HAD LESS THAN 28 POINTS IN THE LAGNA.. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT GIRL IS ADAMENT AND THE GUY IS MORE GIVING OR UNDERSTANDING OR COMPROMISING. THIS IS ATLEAST THE UNDERSTANDING U HAVE.. AND OTHERS CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG HERE.. CAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. > > Here girl has got 36 and boy has got 37. The difference is less than 5 and within 5% range. Hence agreeable. ASH : AS EXPLAINED ABOVE. > Although there can be chances that, since both of them have got high SAV points in 1st house, clashes on account of excess ego and self centeredness, still good for sexual compatibility. > ASH : YES, MY UNDERTANDING IS SIMILAR. > 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house. > > REFERENCE GIRL BOY PLACEMENT POINTS > > 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2- 12 00 > > 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus Same Sign (Leo) 30 > > 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7- 7 10 > > 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus 4-10 10 > > 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer same sign 30 > > 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon 7-7 10 > > TOTAL 90/180= 50% > ASH : THIS AGAIN YOU CHECK FOR INDIVIDUAL CHARTS. GIRL HAS : LAGNA/7TH : SAME SIGN SUN/7TH : 5:9 MOON/7TH : SAME SIGN MARS/7TH : SAME SIGN VENUS/7TH : SAME SIGN GUY HAS LAGNA/7TH : 3:11 SUN/7TH : SAME SIGN MOON/7TH : 3:11 So here for girl you can consider same sign as either 2:12 or 4:10 depending on the distance between the 2 planets. If more 2:12's then girl would have lesser interest in relationship. 3:11 is ok. > Above placements are taken, by overlapping or superimposing one chart over the other. ASH : YOU SHOULD SUPERIMPOSE SIGNS AND ASCENDENTS AND CHECK BOTH CHARTS W.R.T SHANI, MARS, VENUS AND RAHU. > > 3. As indicated in the worksheet, all the planets must give more than 12 points. ASH : HERE GENERALLY MORE POINTS MEANS MORE POWER. WE ALSO HAVE TO CHECK HOW THE PLANET HAS RECEIVED POINTS. ALSO WHEN 6TH LORD GETS MORE POINTS OR 12TH FROM B I.E. 6TH LORD FOR 7TH HOUSE THEN ONE HAS TO BE CAREFUL AS MORE POINTS GAINED MEANS MORE POWER TO DO DAMAGE OR SHOW EFFECTS OF 12TH FROM B. SO ITS BETTER TO HAVE GOOD POINTS FOR ALL PLANETS FOR 7TH HOUSE BUT " LESS " POINTS FOR 12TH FROM B OR 6TH LORD. OTHERWISE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IS THAT WHEN 6TH LORD HAS GOT MORE POINTS THEN IT HAS MORE POWER AND IF PERIOD COMES WHEN DELAY IS OVER IT MAY GIVE MARRIAGE (IF IT DOES NOT ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FOR B=7). IF THAT CASE HAPPENS THEN MARRIAGE HAS HAPPENED IN 6TH LORDS ANTRA AND IT MAY HAVE SOME KIND OF PROBLEM OR THE OTHER. THIS AGAIN IS MY UNDERSTANDING. KRUSHNAJI AND MARGARITA CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON MY UNDERSTANDING ON THIS POINT AS ITS IMPORTANT THAT I GET IT RIGHT. > > In girl's chart except Mercury and in boy's chart except Moon and Saturn, are giving more than 12 points. > > 1-3/14 = 79%, Matching. > > 4. To have none of the planets aspecting the A, B and C houses would be the ideal condition. > > In Girl's chart 4 planets are aspecting. In Boy's chart also 4 planets are aspecting. > > 1-8/14 = 43%, Matching. ASH : I THINK THE REASONING BEHIND THIS IS THE FACT THAT IF A PLANET EVEN WITH HIGH POINTS IS ASPECTING EITHER A,B OR C THEN THEY THEMSELVES CANNOT GIVE RESULTS SO IF ALL PLANET HAVE HIGH POINTS ITS NO USE IF THE ASPECT A,B,C AS THEY WOULD RETRACT FROM GIVING RESULTS. > > 6. There should be no aspect of the sixth lord (the 12th from the 7th house) on the 7th house at the very least. > > In girl's chart 6th lord is along with 7th lord and it is aspecting House C. In boy's chart 6th lord is placed in House A. > > 1-3/12 = 75%, Matching. ASH : WHAT IS THIS MATCHING ? WHAT IS THIS SHOWING. > > 9. When the sixth lord is in the 4th or the 12th house (meaning the 10th and the 6th from the 7th house) it can reduce the marital happiness. > > ASH : WE SHOULD CHECK OVERALL RELATION TO 6TH LORD FOR THE PLANETS. THIS COULD BE IN NASHATRA OF 6TH LORD, OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD. > > No such placements are observed, hence 100% matching. > > > > 10. Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Libra and Pisces are the signs of love. A minimum of 28 points in these signs in the sarvashtakavarga brings more success to the marital life. > > > > > > SIGN GIRL SAV BOY SAV > > > > Taurus 34 37 > > > > Cancer 22 29 > > > > Leo 21 24 > > > > Libra 24 33 > > > > Pisces 26 37 > > > > TOTAL 127 160 > > > > % 90% 114% > > > > The boy would be more romantic than the Girl. Over all there is Matching. > > > > 11. More then 4 points in the above signs by the Sun, the Moon and Venus, makes the person more romantic in his/her love life. > > > > Girl has got :(4+7+4)+(5+0+3)+(4+3+2)+(4+3+5)+(5+2+4) :- 9/15 = 60%. > > > > Boy has got: (6+4+4)+(3+5+6)+(5+1+5)+(4+7+3)+(6+5+5):- 12/15= 80% > > > > 60+80/200 = 70% Matching. > > > > 12. Only the sun in Pisces with more then 4 points makes the standards of the person somewhat lower and consequently love is restricted to physical contacts only. > > > > Both have got more than 4 points in Pisces for Sun. Hence 00% Matching. > > > > > > 13. More points in the 10th or 1st house, or the 8th or 6th house, although it increases the status of the person will also reduce the happiness in the married life. > > > > > > HOUSE NO. GIRL BOY > > > > 10 33 29 > > > > 01 36 37 > > > > 08 21 24 > > > > 06 32 33 > > > > 3/8 = 37%, Matching > > > TOTAL OVER ALL MATCHING = 75.4/100 = 75.4% > > > > I am not cross checking the super imposing effects of the Venus, Mars, Saturn etc., separately, because these factors rather can show tendency towards falling in love. This couple are settling for an 100% arranged marriage. Before the initiation of marriage proposal, they never had seen each other. > ASH : THIS CHECKING IS FOR CHEMISTRY. FOR LOVE MARRIAGE LOD AND LOE FOR 7TH AND 5TH IF THEY HAVE SOME RELATION THEN IT COULD BE LOVE MARRIAGE. EVEN IF THERE IS ARRANGED MARRIAGE THERE HAS TO BE CHEMISTRY (AFTER MARRIAGE) TO SUSTAIN IT ATLEAST IN MODERN TIMES. > > > > > Guru Krushna has made it clear in the notes that, when marriage do happen in the planetary periods having low points/planets connected with 6th house, that indicates problems in the married life. As such it is anybody's guess what percentage of couples are free from any kind of incompatibility. > ASH : HERE RELATION MEANS, SAY A PLANET X IS GIVING RESULTS THEN CHECK X IF ITS IN NAKSHATRA OF 6TH LORD OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD (4:10), CHECK HOW ITS GOT POWER, CHECK ITS ASSOCIATION WITH 6TH LORD IN NAVAMSA (ALL THESE THINGS ARE BUNDLED TOGETHER WHEN WE SAY SAMDHARMI AS INORDER FOR A PLANET TO BECOME SAMDHARMI THEY NEED TO BE ASSOCIATED AS PER LESSON). oTHER THINGS THAT ARE GIVEN SEPERATELY IS THE FACT IF 6TH LORD IS PLACED IN 7TH HOUSE OR IN HOUSE D OR E THEN IT REDUCES RESULT OF THESE HOUSES. > > > No strong indications of divorces are seen in both the chart. > > > > For Girl, FK and NK both is Venus. Venus is afflicted by 6th lord in 5th, house of relation. That might denote no love marriage. The Venus is aspected by Saturn and Mars in Navamsha. This combination can produce extra passion. Native because her egocentric nature may not be able to enjoy in free atmosphere. All the time during love making she might be out of mood. This dis-satisfaction slightly cause infidelity! > ASH : KARAK HAS RESPONSIBILITY OF WELL BEING OF A HOUSE. IF THATS AFFLICTED THEN OVERALL HAPPINESS OF THE HOUSE ITS KARAK FOR IS REDUCED. > > > Boy has got strong connectivity between Saturn and Moon. This is not healthy for mental peace. His position of Rahu might tempt him for some low morale attitudes. > > > > The boy may have to put little extra effort to manage the relation smoothly. The compromising nature shall be more with the boy. > > > > In boy chart, Saturn is contributing less than 12 points for 8 houses. Hence it is very weak planet. Over all Saturn dasa shall be very testing time for couple. > > > > I shall stop here. > > > > Please help with your valuable corrections and inputs, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rajashri. > GOOD ATTEMPT, CHEERS !!! ASH > > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance. > > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got 37 SAV points in ascendant. > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25} > > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05- 30Hrs East} > > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the consequences, if marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned! > > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, which is very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. In one of the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such periods shall be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with House D/E. > > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to indicative for a happy and conjugal married life. > > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically are there any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to unavoidable and for unseen reasons? > > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late marriage. It is believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and Saturn gets closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be postponement of marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong in Boy's chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have transpired with the native (male) in past or not! > > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed as late. Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I am really confused! > > Please liberally provide your inputs. > > I will come with more points on the boy's chart. > > Thanks, > > Rajashri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Ash and Margarita, I too tend to agree with Margarita for most of the reasons. Whether only high points in Ascendant. can make a person self centered to a great extent? What I thought was, to a greater degree ego and such blends and character be decided not only from the Sign ascending but also meticulously studying after which planet dominant in contributing points over there and what planets render aspects etc. Suppose major of the points were contributed by the planets like Moon, Venus, Mercury and Saturn the native would not be egoist. But rather again if Jupiter happens to aspect the rising sign and aspecting Jupiter possesses more points in its location then despite of low SAV points in the First house, the person can be adamant and egocentric. Talking about choosing the right time or beneficial Muhurtha for all major activity, I always wondered, if that holds paramount importance in deciding future course, then does it not weigh down the importance of the Natal chart indications all together? It is mind boggling and might need a lot research works, whether a chosen right or wrong Muhurtha can make or mar the life of an individual? A lot of, literally every thing we study in astrology seems to intangible and obscure............... Thanks, Rajashri. - dmlettens Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:03 PM RE: Re: Marriage period wrong? Hello Ash and Rajashri, Yes, indeed you are right. By the way, something I find very difficult to cope with is the fact that the moment of marriage influences married life. It’s not because you marry at the “wrong” astrological moment that married life is going to be especially difficult. Of course, if you believe this strongly, it will be true, or perhaps unconsciously the wrong moment is selected ?? Choosing the best moment to start something is of course indicated, it shows the care an interest for the matter. I imagine that marriages performed at the right astrological moment can also fail……?? But that’s only my opinion. According to high points in the 1st house, yes perhaps the person is egoistic but I’m a very bad judge in these matters as I myself have 41 points for the 1st. I should not call myself egoistic, perhaps I am ?? I just don’t care what others do or think and I expect to be treated in the same way. But I’m always ready to help those who ask for it. So I think I’m a rather bad judge in these matters of high points in the 1st. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73]Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Marriage period wrong? Dear Margarita and Rajashri,I took a look at the chart of the Male native. Here is something I wanted to add to what you have said.I look at his navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa and sun, moon and lagna are in 5 divisions of Shani !!!! and shani is samdharmi to moon. His shani has weak points for pretty much all houses and Venus (6th lord) and Guru have become strong in this chart along with Mars. Lagna has 37 bindus.This person seems to be very brilliant.. but with such high points in lagna the person could be egoistic. Shani with exalted moon could mean tendency towards melonchy.Currently Mercury antra is running and mercury being 2nd lord is going to create period of worrry for the native. This is also LOD for 5th house so he may also see love in his life...In his chart also Sun to venus distance is greater than 43 degrees and Shani is conjoining Moon in Rasi and Navamsa and is in both places in lagna. Shani for his chart is yogakarak.With NK spoilt and FK is samdharmi to yogakarak. 6th lord is in 2nd house i.e. karaksthan so its afflicting it. Shani aspects 7th house and LOA but LOC is not being aspected nor is house C. So there should have been moderate delay. So after 24.5 years antra was that of Guru, Shani, Mercury in Guru main.Guru is aspecting House A so cannot give results though it has high points, Shani has lowest points so it will delay result and now is Mercury antra being 2nd and FK for marriage with NK spoilt may give marriage...If marriage happens in period of FK I wonder how results will be felt throught life as its also lord of 2nd house so it will also be of worries.. how to corelate these 2 results. I am curious to know that... can you share your insights for this question. Also Rajashri, can you provide more feeback on the nature of the native.. considering Shani, high bindus in langa etc.. just so that we can verify our findings.These are my comments for now...Cheers !!!Ash , "dmlettens" <dmlettens@s...> wrote:> Hello Rajashri,> You gave same day for birth of husband, just a coincidence I suppose.> According to his chart he has indeed 37 points in the first. A first quick> look on both charts is that she is emotionally unstable but he can put up an> enormous passive resistance so they have to work that out perhaps. According> to the rules of the system her mercury bukti is not favorable to start a> marriage. He is also running Mercury bukti but here Mercury is lord of the> 2nd, so a period of worries and problems with emotional ups and downs. He> is also still under the influence of a Saturn transit over his Moon.> Perhaps deciding to marry is a burden added to other problems.> In my experience, it's very difficult to judge who has a "happy" marriage> because in life there are happy and less happy moments and as most people> marry, this is also true for their marriages.> Best regards> margarita> > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...]> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:47 PM> astrology timing events> Marriage period wrong?> > Dear Ash and Margarita,> > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance.> > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got 37 SAV> points in ascendant.> {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25}> > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East}> > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the consequences, if> marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned!> > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, which is> very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. In one of> the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such periods shall> be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with House D/E.> > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to indicative> for a happy and conjugal married life.> > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically are there> any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to unavoidable and> for unseen reasons?> > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late marriage. It is> believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and Saturn gets> closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be postponement of> marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong in Boy's> chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have transpired with> the native (male) in past or not!> > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed as late.> Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I am really> confused!> > Please liberally provide your inputs.> > I will come with more points on the boy's chart.> > Thanks,> > Rajashri.> > *****************************************> > Hello Rajashri and Ash,> Ash I looked at your analysis of this chart and have nothing much to add.> I just wanted to point out that 36 points in the 1st house is not so> exceptional, if her future husband has similar points this will balance out> things a bit. Personally I find the nodal axis through the 1/7 houses more> difficult for married life.> There are no indications that she will not marry (according to traditional> marriage)You can check the rules in a message dated 31 august 2001 were> Krushna gave some rules for denying marriage.> Even if this lady is very emotional and bad tempered sometimes, this> doesn't mean that she will not marry. So many people do !> As to a probable date. I think like Ash that (according to the rules of the> system) Mercury sub would not be favorable but I think Ketu could bring> results because Ketu is in the sign of Mars and constellation of Venus. As> these planets cannot give results because of their sight on house C, so Ketu> could do the job. This has to be interpreted in the framework of the system.> It's interesting to see how all planets become malefic through their> sights, except Mars the strong significator for the 1st house, and Venus,> but Venus as lord of the 2nd is not favorable anyway.> Best regards> Margarita> > Dear Rajashri,> > I am replying to this mail in short. I may have missed a few things> but there were the observations that came to my mind.> > You have pointed out most points. In my opinion and keeping in mind> what Krushnaji had said the inherent nature of his lady is to keep> things together. Mars is strong yes due to Moon. Moon is also> contributing a Zero point in the 4th house so that may delay> marriage a bit.> Karak Venus seems to be ok. Yes its afflicted by Mercury i.e. 6th> lord but Guru is in 4th from such a combination.> > This lady may marry in Sun/Sun antra as Sun is in 4th house and with> 5 bindus so its eager to give result i.e. 2006/09 and 2006/12 ?> > current antra is that of Mercury and followed after that by Ketu> that represents Mars and Venus. Mars and Venus both are aspecting> House C so themselves cant give result their samdharmi will.> > The Mahadasha changes after that and may bring about some change in> her life i.e. as Karaktwa changes. Sun being in 4th will represent> 7th and 11th house karaktwa and also of that of 9th house all show> marriage, friend, income, dharam, guru etc..> > So my feeling is that Sun-Sun would bring her marraige.> > Having 6th lords points for 7th house is a good thing as 6th lord or> 12th from B (7) does not have enough power to break things.> > I shall wait for others to comment on the chart.> > Other than that points given by you regarding lagna/7th sun/7th and> moon/7th are good and we also include mars/7th and venus/7th for> females also.> > Thanking you,> Cheers !!!> Ash> > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...]> Monday, April 28, 2003 12:21 PM> astrology timing events> Marriage period wrong?> > Dear Ash and friends,> > I am posting birth data of an another lady who is waiting for a marriage.> > August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East.> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Ash and Margarita, You have pointed out very important gradients. How ever I am least knowing any details of the waiting in Groom. Whether such strong Saturnine influence can make native even a cunning person? In an average, native seems to be well studied as he has done Charted Accountancy. If what told to me is right, he is still continuing studies for completing MBA, a management course. Another thing, I don't know how it can be of any help in assessing the native, he has got only brothers and they are 4 in numbers. What effect the Venus with more than 43° away from sun can give to this gentleman? The lady is of stubborn nature and also of less compromising qualities. The lady has got three divisions falling Saturn sign among D3,D9 and D30. For her, placement of Venus, Mars and Saturn in D1, D9 and in D30 not a favourable position for the reputation! It is a lot confusing for my "L" brain. Thanks, Rajashri. - ashsam73 Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:23 PM Re: Marriage period wrong? Dear Margarita and Rajashri,I took a look at the chart of the Male native. Here is something I wanted to add to what you have said.I look at his navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa and sun, moon and lagna are in 5 divisions of Shani !!!! and shani is samdharmi to moon. His shani has weak points for pretty much all houses and Venus (6th lord) and Guru have become strong in this chart along with Mars. Lagna has 37 bindus.This person seems to be very brilliant.. but with such high points in lagna the person could be egoistic. Shani with exalted moon could mean tendency towards melonchy.Currently Mercury antra is running and mercury being 2nd lord is going to create period of worrry for the native. This is also LOD for 5th house so he may also see love in his life...In his chart also Sun to venus distance is greater than 43 degrees and Shani is conjoining Moon in Rasi and Navamsa and is in both places in lagna. Shani for his chart is yogakarak.With NK spoilt and FK is samdharmi to yogakarak. 6th lord is in 2nd house i.e. karaksthan so its afflicting it. Shani aspects 7th house and LOA but LOC is not being aspected nor is house C. So there should have been moderate delay. So after 24.5 years antra was that of Guru, Shani, Mercury in Guru main.Guru is aspecting House A so cannot give results though it has high points, Shani has lowest points so it will delay result and now is Mercury antra being 2nd and FK for marriage with NK spoilt may give marriage...If marriage happens in period of FK I wonder how results will be felt throught life as its also lord of 2nd house so it will also be of worries.. how to corelate these 2 results. I am curious to know that... can you share your insights for this question. Also Rajashri, can you provide more feeback on the nature of the native.. considering Shani, high bindus in langa etc.. just so that we can verify our findings.These are my comments for now...Cheers !!!Ash , "dmlettens" <dmlettens@s...> wrote:> Hello Rajashri,> You gave same day for birth of husband, just a coincidence I suppose.> According to his chart he has indeed 37 points in the first. A first quick> look on both charts is that she is emotionally unstable but he can put up an> enormous passive resistance so they have to work that out perhaps. According> to the rules of the system her mercury bukti is not favorable to start a> marriage. He is also running Mercury bukti but here Mercury is lord of the> 2nd, so a period of worries and problems with emotional ups and downs. He> is also still under the influence of a Saturn transit over his Moon.> Perhaps deciding to marry is a burden added to other problems.> In my experience, it's very difficult to judge who has a "happy" marriage> because in life there are happy and less happy moments and as most people> marry, this is also true for their marriages.> Best regards> margarita> > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...]> Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:47 PM> astrology timing events> Marriage period wrong?> > Dear Ash and Margarita,> > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance.> > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got 37 SAV> points in ascendant.> {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25}> > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East}> > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the consequences, if> marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned!> > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, which is> very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. In one of> the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such periods shall> be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with House D/E.> > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to indicative> for a happy and conjugal married life.> > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically are there> any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to unavoidable and> for unseen reasons?> > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late marriage. It is> believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and Saturn gets> closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be postponement of> marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong in Boy's> chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have transpired with> the native (male) in past or not!> > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed as late.> Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I am really> confused!> > Please liberally provide your inputs.> > I will come with more points on the boy's chart.> > Thanks,> > Rajashri.> > *****************************************> > Hello Rajashri and Ash,> Ash I looked at your analysis of this chart and have nothing much to add.> I just wanted to point out that 36 points in the 1st house is not so> exceptional, if her future husband has similar points this will balance out> things a bit. Personally I find the nodal axis through the 1/7 houses more> difficult for married life.> There are no indications that she will not marry (according to traditional> marriage)You can check the rules in a message dated 31 august 2001 were> Krushna gave some rules for denying marriage.> Even if this lady is very emotional and bad tempered sometimes, this> doesn't mean that she will not marry. So many people do !> As to a probable date. I think like Ash that (according to the rules of the> system) Mercury sub would not be favorable but I think Ketu could bring> results because Ketu is in the sign of Mars and constellation of Venus. As> these planets cannot give results because of their sight on house C, so Ketu> could do the job. This has to be interpreted in the framework of the system.> It's interesting to see how all planets become malefic through their> sights, except Mars the strong significator for the 1st house, and Venus,> but Venus as lord of the 2nd is not favorable anyway.> Best regards> Margarita> > Dear Rajashri,> > I am replying to this mail in short. I may have missed a few things> but there were the observations that came to my mind.> > You have pointed out most points. In my opinion and keeping in mind> what Krushnaji had said the inherent nature of his lady is to keep> things together. Mars is strong yes due to Moon. Moon is also> contributing a Zero point in the 4th house so that may delay> marriage a bit.> Karak Venus seems to be ok. Yes its afflicted by Mercury i.e. 6th> lord but Guru is in 4th from such a combination.> > This lady may marry in Sun/Sun antra as Sun is in 4th house and with> 5 bindus so its eager to give result i.e. 2006/09 and 2006/12 ?> > current antra is that of Mercury and followed after that by Ketu> that represents Mars and Venus. Mars and Venus both are aspecting> House C so themselves cant give result their samdharmi will.> > The Mahadasha changes after that and may bring about some change in> her life i.e. as Karaktwa changes. Sun being in 4th will represent> 7th and 11th house karaktwa and also of that of 9th house all show> marriage, friend, income, dharam, guru etc..> > So my feeling is that Sun-Sun would bring her marraige.> > Having 6th lords points for 7th house is a good thing as 6th lord or> 12th from B (7) does not have enough power to break things.> > I shall wait for others to comment on the chart.> > Other than that points given by you regarding lagna/7th sun/7th and> moon/7th are good and we also include mars/7th and venus/7th for> females also.> > Thanking you,> Cheers !!!> Ash> > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...]> Monday, April 28, 2003 12:21 PM> astrology timing events> Marriage period wrong?> > Dear Ash and friends,> > I am posting birth data of an another lady who is waiting for a marriage.> > August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East.> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Rajashri and Margarita, We are going into details regarding high SAV points in the first house. I think I have stated what I knew and what was discussed here on the list regarding high points. I also agree that we need to see which planets are giving points to first house or giving their support. If one has 41 points in a house then some other house has lesser points or points are taken away from some other house as there are only 337 bindus to spread across 12 signs and by 7 grahas and lagna. This is the way I look at it that if a house receives more support i.e. more points are contributed by planets then native focuses more on that house. 1st house also shows personality. More points in 1st house could also show a strong personality. Margarita you said your lagna had 41 points so it could be that you have a strong personality ? I am sure there is more to it. Lets ask Krushnaji to give us some more detailed insight into this phenemon and we can apply similar logic for all other houses too. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > I too tend to agree with Margarita for most of the reasons. Whether only high points in Ascendant. can make a person self centered to a great extent? What I thought was, to a greater degree ego and such blends and character be decided not only from the Sign ascending but also meticulously studying after which planet dominant in contributing points over there and what planets render aspects etc. > > Suppose major of the points were contributed by the planets like Moon, Venus, Mercury and Saturn the native would not be egoist. But rather again if Jupiter happens to aspect the rising sign and aspecting Jupiter possesses more points in its location then despite of low SAV points in the First house, the person can be adamant and egocentric. > > Talking about choosing the right time or beneficial Muhurtha for all major activity, I always wondered, if that holds paramount importance in deciding future course, then does it not weigh down the importance of the Natal chart indications all together? > > It is mind boggling and might need a lot research works, whether a chosen right or wrong Muhurtha can make or mar the life of an individual? > > A lot of, literally every thing we study in astrology seems to intangible and obscure............... > > > Thanks, > > Rajashri. > - > dmlettens > > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:03 PM > RE: Re: Marriage period wrong? > > > Hello Ash and Rajashri, > > Yes, indeed you are right. By the way, something I find very difficult to cope with is the fact that the moment of marriage influences married life. It's not because you marry at the " wrong " astrological moment that married life is going to be especially difficult. Of course, if you believe this strongly, it will be true, or perhaps unconsciously the wrong moment is selected ?? Choosing the best moment to start something is of course indicated, it shows the care an interest for the matter. I imagine that marriages performed at the right astrological moment can also fail..?? But that's only my opinion. > > According to high points in the 1st house, yes perhaps the person is egoistic but I'm a very bad judge in these matters as I myself have 41 points for the 1st. I should not call myself egoistic, perhaps I am ?? I just don't care what others do or think and I expect to be treated in the same way. But I'm always ready to help those who ask for it. So I think I'm a rather bad judge in these matters of high points in the 1st. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:54 AM > > Re: Marriage period wrong? > > > > Dear Margarita and Rajashri, > I took a look at the chart of the Male native. Here is something I > wanted to add to what you have said. > > I look at his navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa and sun, moon and > lagna are in 5 divisions of Shani !!!! and shani is samdharmi to > moon. > > His shani has weak points for pretty much all houses and Venus (6th > lord) and Guru have become strong in this chart along with Mars. > Lagna has 37 bindus. > > This person seems to be very brilliant.. but with such high points > in lagna the person could be egoistic. Shani with exalted moon > could mean tendency towards melonchy. > > Currently Mercury antra is running and mercury being 2nd lord is > going to create period of worrry for the native. This is also LOD > for 5th house so he may also see love in his life... > > In his chart also Sun to venus distance is greater than 43 degrees > and Shani is conjoining Moon in Rasi and Navamsa and is in both > places in lagna. Shani for his chart is yogakarak. > > With NK spoilt and FK is samdharmi to yogakarak. 6th lord is in 2nd > house i.e. karaksthan so its afflicting it. > > Shani aspects 7th house and LOA but LOC is not being aspected nor is > house C. So there should have been moderate delay. So after 24.5 > years antra was that of Guru, Shani, Mercury in Guru main. > > Guru is aspecting House A so cannot give results though it has high > points, Shani has lowest points so it will delay result and now is > Mercury antra being 2nd and FK for marriage with NK spoilt may give > marriage... > > If marriage happens in period of FK I wonder how results will be > felt throught life as its also lord of 2nd house so it will also be > of worries.. how to corelate these 2 results. I am curious to know > that... can you share your insights for this question. Also > Rajashri, can you provide more feeback on the nature of the native.. > considering Shani, high bindus in langa etc.. just so that we can > verify our findings. > > These are my comments for now... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Rajashri, > > You gave same day for birth of husband, just a coincidence I > suppose. > > According to his chart he has indeed 37 points in the first. A > first quick > > look on both charts is that she is emotionally unstable but he can > put up an > > enormous passive resistance so they have to work that out perhaps. > According > > to the rules of the system her mercury bukti is not favorable to > start a > > marriage. He is also running Mercury bukti but here Mercury is > lord of the > > 2nd, so a period of worries and problems with emotional ups and > downs. He > > is also still under the influence of a Saturn transit over his > Moon. > > Perhaps deciding to marry is a burden added to other problems. > > In my experience, it's very difficult to judge who has a " happy " > marriage > > because in life there are happy and less happy moments and as most > people > > marry, this is also true for their marriages. > > Best regards > > margarita > > > > > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...] > > Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:47 PM > > astrology timing events > > Marriage period wrong? > > > > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > > > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance. > > > > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got > 37 SAV > > points in ascendant. > > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; > 74E24,14N25} > > > > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05- > 30Hrs East} > > > > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the > consequences, if > > marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned! > > > > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, > which is > > very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. > In one of > > the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such > periods shall > > be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with > House D/E. > > > > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to > indicative > > for a happy and conjugal married life. > > > > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically > are there > > any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to > unavoidable and > > for unseen reasons? > > > > > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late > marriage. It is > > believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and > Saturn gets > > closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be > postponement of > > marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong > in Boy's > > chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have > transpired with > > the native (male) in past or not! > > > > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed > as late. > > Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I > am really > > confused! > > > > Please liberally provide your inputs. > > > > I will come with more points on the boy's chart. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rajashri. > > > > ***************************************** > > > > Hello Rajashri and Ash, > > Ash I looked at your analysis of this chart and have nothing much > to add. > > I just wanted to point out that 36 points in the 1st house is not > so > > exceptional, if her future husband has similar points this will > balance out > > things a bit. Personally I find the nodal axis through the 1/7 > houses more > > difficult for married life. > > There are no indications that she will not marry (according to > traditional > > marriage)You can check the rules in a message dated 31 august 2001 > were > > Krushna gave some rules for denying marriage. > > Even if this lady is very emotional and bad tempered sometimes, > this > > doesn't mean that she will not marry. So many people do ! > > As to a probable date. I think like Ash that (according to the > rules of the > > system) Mercury sub would not be favorable but I think Ketu could > bring > > results because Ketu is in the sign of Mars and constellation of > Venus. As > > these planets cannot give results because of their sight on house > C, so Ketu > > could do the job. This has to be interpreted in the framework of > the system. > > It's interesting to see how all planets become malefic through > their > > sights, except Mars the strong significator for the 1st house, and > Venus, > > but Venus as lord of the 2nd is not favorable anyway. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > Dear Rajashri, > > > > I am replying to this mail in short. I may have missed a few > things > > but there were the observations that came to my mind. > > > > You have pointed out most points. In my opinion and keeping in > mind > > what Krushnaji had said the inherent nature of his lady is to keep > > things together. Mars is strong yes due to Moon. Moon is also > > contributing a Zero point in the 4th house so that may delay > > marriage a bit. > > Karak Venus seems to be ok. Yes its afflicted by Mercury i.e. 6th > > lord but Guru is in 4th from such a combination. > > > > This lady may marry in Sun/Sun antra as Sun is in 4th house and > with > > 5 bindus so its eager to give result i.e. 2006/09 and 2006/12 ? > > > > current antra is that of Mercury and followed after that by Ketu > > that represents Mars and Venus. Mars and Venus both are aspecting > > House C so themselves cant give result their samdharmi will. > > > > The Mahadasha changes after that and may bring about some change in > > her life i.e. as Karaktwa changes. Sun being in 4th will represent > > 7th and 11th house karaktwa and also of that of 9th house all show > > marriage, friend, income, dharam, guru etc.. > > > > So my feeling is that Sun-Sun would bring her marraige. > > > > Having 6th lords points for 7th house is a good thing as 6th lord > or > > 12th from B (7) does not have enough power to break things. > > > > I shall wait for others to comment on the chart. > > > > Other than that points given by you regarding lagna/7th sun/7th and > > moon/7th are good and we also include mars/7th and venus/7th for > > females also. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > Rajashri Naik [rajaloli@h...] > > Monday, April 28, 2003 12:21 PM > > astrology timing events > > Marriage period wrong? > > > > Dear Ash and friends, > > > > I am posting birth data of an another lady who is waiting for a > marriage. > > > > August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Ash, It is very generaous of you to encourage beginner like me to learn with more enthusiasm and guide with your thorough knowledge. Needless mention, all learners gratitude shall be deposited for your untiring efforts in enlightening. I have got few of the doubts from your detailed explanation. You wrote, 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house.> > REFERENCE GIRL BOY PLACEMENT POINTS > > 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2-12 00> > 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus Same Sign (Leo) 30 > > 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7-7 10> > 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus 4-10 10> > 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer same sign 30> > 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon 7-7 10> > TOTAL 90/180= 50%> ASH : THIS AGAIN YOU CHECK FOR INDIVIDUAL CHARTS. Though I might be wrong, here what I thought was little different. Guru Krushna, in his lessons has provided guide lines which are applicable for single chart under consideration. How ever when the specific chart which need to be compared for compatibility, then can one not give more stress to mutual placement rather than cross checking each chart separately. My language........, hence I try to be more clear with following narration to convey what I am intending to express. Suppose, when chart of a person called 'R' is studied strictly in line with the Lesson guide lines, one will arrive that, there shall be high degree of compatibility. How ever, necessarily it does not mean, the person 'R' will enjoy same depth of compatibility with all opposite sex person. If there are 10 persons whose compatibility need to found out with 'R', then exercise need to be repeated for as many times. Under such scenario would it not be more reasonable to adopt the method I used? As we adopt it, whether we are not giving more importance to the planetary vibrations and its effect between only Two concerned person which is after more sought one? Now consider person 'R' has got Moon sign lord and 7th lord from Moon; Sun sign lord and 7th lord from the Sun and Ascendant lord and 7th lord from Ascendant placed mutually each other in trines. This foretells very good smooth married life to 'R'. If the person 'R', happen to marry a person, who has got same combination in the chart (again indicating smooth married life). But when superimposition being done with these two charts still one can find that their Ascendant sign, Moon sign and Sun signs falls at 6-8 relation to each other. Here though their individual charts foretells smooth married life, when studied separately, the facts can be diabolically different when tied to each other. Apparently, having the above points in mind I choose to adopt the method as illustrated in my last mail. The same principle and analogy I could not apply to all the points, coz of my learning stage and lack of understanding. Please throw more light. Thanks, Rajashri - ashsam73 Thursday, May 01, 2003 1:57 PM Re: Marriage Period wrong? Dear Rajashri,Its nice to see you working hard and learning the system and making nice comparisions. Thought I would mention that.Some things I wanted to point out though where there was some difference in understanding. I shall point them out in CAPS BELOW.I am sure Margarita or Krushnaji or list members will point out my mistakes. , "Rajashri Naik" <rajaloli@h...> wrote:> Dear Ash and Margarita,> > I have made an exercise on comparing charts of would be couples based on Guru Krushna's lesson. How ever little departure I had to make, as the points given were for applying single chart for ascertaining the overall marriage life of single person.> > The application of the principle as have been done, with the belief, in no way it distort the original concept.> > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25}> > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East}> > 1. The points in the 1st and 7th house of the Sarvashtakavarga chart should be equal or with a difference of no more than 5 points. ASH : YOU SHOULD NOT CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA AND GIRLS LAGNA. HERE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE AND GIRLS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE TO SEE THIS DIFFERENCE.HIGH POINTS IN BOTH LAGNAS I.E. 36 FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY MEANS BOTH ARE HEAD STRONG, ADAMENT, DO THINGS MY WAY KINDA ATTITUDE.SO GIRL HAS 36/24 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HER CHART GUY HAS 37/26 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HIS CHART.BOTH HAVE MORE THAN 5 POINTS DIFFERENCE. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MAY BE WRONG IS THAT THIS SHOWS THE COMPATIBILITY FELT BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE. IF THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE THEN THE NATIVE MIGHT NOT FEEL HELPED OR SUPPORTED TO HIS OR HER LIKING. MORE DIFFERENCE MEANS FEELS LESS SUPPORTED.WHEN YOU CHECK FOR BOTH LAGNAS IN 2 CHARTS LIKE YOU DID THEN ITS 36 FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY THEN THOSE SHOW THEIR EACH MINDSET. ITS BETTER IN SUCH CASES THAT IF ONE OF THE COUPLE HAS HIGH POINTS IN LAGNA THEN THE OTHER ONE SHOULD HAVE LOW. SO FOR EG IF HERE THE GIRL HAS 36 POINTS IN LAGNA THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THE GUY HAD LESS THAN 28 POINTS IN THE LAGNA.. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT GIRL IS ADAMENT AND THE GUY IS MORE GIVING OR UNDERSTANDING OR COMPROMISING. THIS IS ATLEAST THE UNDERSTANDING U HAVE.. AND OTHERS CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG HERE.. CAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.> > Here girl has got 36 and boy has got 37. The difference is less than 5 and within 5% range. Hence agreeable.ASH : AS EXPLAINED ABOVE.> Although there can be chances that, since both of them have got high SAV points in 1st house, clashes on account of excess ego and self centeredness, still good for sexual compatibility.> ASH : YES, MY UNDERTANDING IS SIMILAR.> 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house.> > REFERENCE GIRL BOY PLACEMENT POINTS > > 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2-12 00> > 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus Same Sign (Leo) 30 > > 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7-7 10> > 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus 4-10 10> > 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer same sign 30> > 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon 7-7 10> > TOTAL 90/180= 50%> ASH : THIS AGAIN YOU CHECK FOR INDIVIDUAL CHARTS.GIRL HAS : LAGNA/7TH : SAME SIGNSUN/7TH : 5:9MOON/7TH : SAME SIGNMARS/7TH : SAME SIGNVENUS/7TH : SAME SIGNGUY HASLAGNA/7TH : 3:11SUN/7TH : SAME SIGNMOON/7TH : 3:11So here for girl you can consider same sign as either 2:12 or 4:10 depending on the distance between the 2 planets. If more 2:12's then girl would have lesser interest in relationship. 3:11 is ok.> Above placements are taken, by overlapping or superimposing one chart over the other.ASH : YOU SHOULD SUPERIMPOSE SIGNS AND ASCENDENTS AND CHECK BOTH CHARTS W.R.T SHANI, MARS, VENUS AND RAHU. > > 3. As indicated in the worksheet, all the planets must give more than 12 points.ASH : HERE GENERALLY MORE POINTS MEANS MORE POWER. WE ALSO HAVE TO CHECK HOW THE PLANET HAS RECEIVED POINTS. ALSO WHEN 6TH LORD GETS MORE POINTS OR 12TH FROM B I.E. 6TH LORD FOR 7TH HOUSE THEN ONE HAS TO BE CAREFUL AS MORE POINTS GAINED MEANS MORE POWER TO DO DAMAGE OR SHOW EFFECTS OF 12TH FROM B. SO ITS BETTER TO HAVE GOOD POINTS FOR ALL PLANETS FOR 7TH HOUSE BUT "LESS" POINTS FOR 12TH FROM B OR 6TH LORD.OTHERWISE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IS THAT WHEN 6TH LORD HAS GOT MORE POINTS THEN IT HAS MORE POWER AND IF PERIOD COMES WHEN DELAY IS OVER IT MAY GIVE MARRIAGE (IF IT DOES NOT ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FOR B=7). IF THAT CASE HAPPENS THEN MARRIAGE HAS HAPPENED IN 6TH LORDS ANTRA AND IT MAY HAVE SOME KIND OF PROBLEM OR THE OTHER. THIS AGAIN IS MY UNDERSTANDING.KRUSHNAJI AND MARGARITA CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON MY UNDERSTANDING ON THIS POINT AS ITS IMPORTANT THAT I GET IT RIGHT.> > In girl's chart except Mercury and in boy's chart except Moon and Saturn, are giving more than 12 points.> > 1-3/14 = 79%, Matching.> > 4. To have none of the planets aspecting the A, B and C houses would be the ideal condition. > > In Girl's chart 4 planets are aspecting. In Boy's chart also 4 planets are aspecting.> > 1-8/14 = 43%, Matching.ASH : I THINK THE REASONING BEHIND THIS IS THE FACT THAT IF A PLANET EVEN WITH HIGH POINTS IS ASPECTING EITHER A,B OR C THEN THEY THEMSELVES CANNOT GIVE RESULTS SO IF ALL PLANET HAVE HIGH POINTS ITS NO USE IF THE ASPECT A,B,C AS THEY WOULD RETRACT FROM GIVING RESULTS.> > 6. There should be no aspect of the sixth lord (the 12th from the 7th house) on the 7th house at the very least. > > In girl's chart 6th lord is along with 7th lord and it is aspecting House C. In boy's chart 6th lord is placed in House A. > > 1-3/12 = 75%, Matching.ASH : WHAT IS THIS MATCHING ? WHAT IS THIS SHOWING.> > 9. When the sixth lord is in the 4th or the 12th house (meaning the 10th and the 6th from the 7th house) it can reduce the marital happiness.> > ASH : WE SHOULD CHECK OVERALL RELATION TO 6TH LORD FOR THE PLANETS. THIS COULD BE IN NASHATRA OF 6TH LORD, OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD.> > No such placements are observed, hence 100% matching.> > > > 10. Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Libra and Pisces are the signs of love. A minimum of 28 points in these signs in the sarvashtakavarga brings more success to the marital life.> > > > > > SIGN GIRL SAV BOY SAV> > > > Taurus 34 37> > > > Cancer 22 29> > > > Leo 21 24> > > > Libra 24 33> > > > Pisces 26 37> > > > TOTAL 127 160> > > > % 90% 114%> > > > The boy would be more romantic than the Girl. Over all there is Matching.> > > > 11. More then 4 points in the above signs by the Sun, the Moon and Venus, makes the person more romantic in his/her love life. > > > > Girl has got :(4+7+4)+(5+0+3)+(4+3+2)+(4+3+5)+(5+2+4) :- 9/15 = 60%.> > > > Boy has got: (6+4+4)+(3+5+6)+(5+1+5)+(4+7+3)+(6+5+5):- 12/15= 80%> > > > 60+80/200 = 70% Matching.> > > > 12. Only the sun in Pisces with more then 4 points makes the standards of the person somewhat lower and consequently love is restricted to physical contacts only.> > > > Both have got more than 4 points in Pisces for Sun. Hence 00% Matching.> > > > > > 13. More points in the 10th or 1st house, or the 8th or 6th house, although it increases the status of the person will also reduce the happiness in the married life. > > > > > > HOUSE NO. GIRL BOY> > > > 10 33 29> > > > 01 36 37> > > > 08 21 24> > > > 06 32 33> > > > 3/8 = 37%, Matching> > > > > > > > > > TOTAL OVER ALL MATCHING = 75.4/100 = 75.4%> > > > I am not cross checking the super imposing effects of the Venus, Mars, Saturn etc., separately, because these factors rather can show tendency towards falling in love. This couple are settling for an 100% arranged marriage. Before the initiation of marriage proposal, they never had seen each other.> ASH : THIS CHECKING IS FOR CHEMISTRY. FOR LOVE MARRIAGE LOD AND LOE FOR 7TH AND 5TH IF THEY HAVE SOME RELATION THEN IT COULD BE LOVE MARRIAGE.EVEN IF THERE IS ARRANGED MARRIAGE THERE HAS TO BE CHEMISTRY (AFTER MARRIAGE) TO SUSTAIN IT ATLEAST IN MODERN TIMES.> > > > > Guru Krushna has made it clear in the notes that, when marriage do happen in the planetary periods having low points/planets connected with 6th house, that indicates problems in the married life. As such it is anybody's guess what percentage of couples are free from any kind of incompatibility.> ASH : HERE RELATION MEANS, SAY A PLANET X IS GIVING RESULTS THEN CHECK X IF ITS IN NAKSHATRA OF 6TH LORD OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD (4:10), CHECK HOW ITS GOT POWER, CHECK ITS ASSOCIATION WITH 6TH LORD IN NAVAMSA (ALL THESE THINGS ARE BUNDLED TOGETHER WHEN WE SAY SAMDHARMI AS INORDER FOR A PLANET TO BECOME SAMDHARMI THEY NEED TO BE ASSOCIATED AS PER LESSON).oTHER THINGS THAT ARE GIVEN SEPERATELY IS THE FACT IF 6TH LORD IS PLACED IN 7TH HOUSE OR IN HOUSE D OR E THEN IT REDUCES RESULT OF THESE HOUSES.> > > No strong indications of divorces are seen in both the chart.> > > > For Girl, FK and NK both is Venus. Venus is afflicted by 6th lord in 5th, house of relation. That might denote no love marriage. The Venus is aspected by Saturn and Mars in Navamsha. This combination can produce extra passion. Native because her egocentric nature may not be able to enjoy in free atmosphere. All the time during love making she might be out of mood. This dis-satisfaction slightly cause infidelity!> ASH : KARAK HAS RESPONSIBILITY OF WELL BEING OF A HOUSE. IF THATS AFFLICTED THEN OVERALL HAPPINESS OF THE HOUSE ITS KARAK FOR IS REDUCED.> > > Boy has got strong connectivity between Saturn and Moon. This is not healthy for mental peace. His position of Rahu might tempt him for some low morale attitudes.> > > > The boy may have to put little extra effort to manage the relation smoothly. The compromising nature shall be more with the boy.> > > > In boy chart, Saturn is contributing less than 12 points for 8 houses. Hence it is very weak planet. Over all Saturn dasa shall be very testing time for couple.> > > > I shall stop here.> > > > Please help with your valuable corrections and inputs,> > > > Thanks,> > > > Rajashri.> GOOD ATTEMPT,CHEERS !!!ASH> > Dear Ash and Margarita,> > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance.> > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got 37 SAV points in ascendant.> {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; 74E24,14N25}> > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05-30Hrs East}> > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the consequences, if marriage happens in this June-2003, as being decided and planned!> > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, which is very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for marriage. In one of the recent message Ash told that, marriage happening in such periods shall be reverted back in the coming periods of planets connected with House D/E.> > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to indicative for a happy and conjugal married life.> > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically are there any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due to unavoidable and for unseen reasons?> > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late marriage. It is believed in traditional system of astrology that when Moon and Saturn gets closely connected and influences 7th house, there would be postponement of marriage date at very advance stages. This combination is strong in Boy's chart. But what I do not know is whether such things have transpired with the native (male) in past or not!> > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed as late. Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu tradition. I am really confused!> > Please liberally provide your inputs.> > I will come with more points on the boy's chart.> > Thanks,> > Rajashri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Hi Ash, The main thing I remember Krushna saying about high points in the 1st house was that made the person extroverted (that wasn't the word he used) and if the 7th house had more than 10% less points than the 1st then that person would be the dominating partner in the relationship. In my own chart I have high points but my wife has similar high points which is probably why we have formed such a good partnership which has lasted over 50 years. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Rajashri, Margarita, Krushnaji and list members, Ahh.. I think I know what you were trying to say with clarification in this email. No, No we do this for each chart. Lets break this down into 2 factors. a) The native himself/herself and his/her nature or mindset in marriage. b) Chemistry, sustainability. When we study chart as per lesson then we are checking the natives own apporach and attitude towards the partner. If lagna,sun,moon and their 7th lords are in trines then it means that " The Native will be in harmony with the spouse or partner " . This " could " translate into the fact that both of them will get along only then they could have harmony. This is an assumption I feel. Now on the same token if the " partner/spouse " 's chart if he has 6:8 or 2:12 combination then the " partner/spouse " will either have disputes or nature of causing disputes or not interested in relationship. But that is the partners " attitude " towards the relationship. So here are 2 people with different inherent natures or attidues towards the spouse/partner. b) To check for friendship/compatibility of relationship we check a few other things that augument point 1. This we check with overlapping of charts and check the relationship between shani, mars, venus and rahu. HERE in this step we are checking the attraction between the couple. If the girl has more points or hits w.r.t guys chart then attraction from her side will be more (I think). In one chart Shashank had asked about re-marriage to the same person after divorse.. in that case Krushnaji had checked for this factor .. which I think shows how much attraction is felt.. that though the person may be seperate the desire to be together is strong.... this is my understanding of this event.. I hope others can shed more light with respect to their understanding... as I may be off track here... That is why I had asked Surendra to check for this compatibility between him and his wife. Also point b superscedes point 1. Here was the point I wanted to understand was the " exact " relation between shani, mars, venus and rahu. What do each planet do or indicate and how if they cancel each others dosha.... This is my understanding..... please feel free to give your understanding... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > It is very generaous of you to encourage beginner like me to learn with more enthusiasm and guide with your thorough knowledge. > > Needless mention, all learners gratitude shall be deposited for your untiring efforts in enlightening. > > I have got few of the doubts from your detailed explanation. > > You wrote, > > 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the > Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house. > > > > REFERENCE GIRL > BOY PLACEMENT POINTS > > > > 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2- > 12 00 > > > > 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus > Same Sign (Leo) 30 > > > > 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7- > 7 10 > > > > 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus > 4-10 10 > > > > 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer > same sign 30 > > > > 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon > 7-7 10 > > > > > TOTAL > 90/180= 50% > > > > > ASH : THIS AGAIN YOU CHECK FOR INDIVIDUAL CHARTS. > > Though I might be wrong, here what I thought was little different. > > Guru Krushna, in his lessons has provided guide lines which are applicable for single chart under consideration. How ever when the specific chart which need to be compared for compatibility, then can one not give more stress to mutual placement rather than cross checking each chart separately. > > My language........, hence I try to be more clear with following narration to convey what I am intending to express. > > Suppose, when chart of a person called 'R' is studied strictly in line with the Lesson guide lines, one will arrive that, there shall be high degree of compatibility. How ever, necessarily it does not mean, the person 'R' will enjoy same depth of compatibility with all opposite sex person. If there are 10 persons whose compatibility need to found out with 'R', then exercise need to be repeated for as many times. Under such scenario would it not be more reasonable to adopt the method I used? As we adopt it, whether we are not giving more importance to the planetary vibrations and its effect between only Two concerned person which is after more sought one? > > Now consider person 'R' has got Moon sign lord and 7th lord from Moon; Sun sign lord and 7th lord from the Sun and Ascendant lord and 7th lord from Ascendant placed mutually each other in trines. This foretells very good smooth married life to 'R'. If the person 'R', happen to marry a person, who has got same combination in the chart (again indicating smooth married life). But when superimposition being done with these two charts still one can find that their Ascendant sign, Moon sign and Sun signs falls at 6-8 relation to each other. Here though their individual charts foretells smooth married life, when studied separately, the facts can be diabolically different when tied to each other. > > Apparently, having the above points in mind I choose to adopt the method as illustrated in my last mail. > > The same principle and analogy I could not apply to all the points, coz of my learning stage and lack of understanding. > > Please throw more light. > > Thanks, > > Rajashri > > > > - > ashsam73 > > Thursday, May 01, 2003 1:57 PM > Re: Marriage Period wrong? > > > Dear Rajashri, > Its nice to see you working hard and learning the system and making > nice comparisions. Thought I would mention that. > > Some things I wanted to point out though where there was some > difference in understanding. I shall point them out in CAPS BELOW. > > I am sure Margarita or Krushnaji or list members will point out my > mistakes. > > > , " Rajashri Naik " > <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > > > I have made an exercise on comparing charts of would be couples > based on Guru Krushna's lesson. How ever little departure I had to > make, as the points given were for applying single chart for > ascertaining the overall marriage life of single person. > > > > The application of the principle as have been done, with the > belief, in no way it distort the original concept. > > > > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; > 74E24,14N25} > > > > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05- > 30Hrs East} > > > > 1. The points in the 1st and 7th house of the Sarvashtakavarga > chart should be equal or with a difference of no more than 5 points. > > ASH : YOU SHOULD NOT CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA AND GIRLS LAGNA. HERE YOU > SHOULD CONSIDER BOYS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE AND GIRLS LAGNA/7TH HOUSE TO > SEE THIS DIFFERENCE. > > HIGH POINTS IN BOTH LAGNAS I.E. 36 FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY MEANS > BOTH ARE HEAD STRONG, ADAMENT, DO THINGS MY WAY KINDA ATTITUDE. > > SO GIRL HAS 36/24 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HER CHART > GUY HAS 37/26 IN LAGNA/7TH IN HIS CHART. > > BOTH HAVE MORE THAN 5 POINTS DIFFERENCE. > FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MAY BE WRONG IS THAT THIS SHOWS THE > COMPATIBILITY FELT BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE. IF THERE IS A LOT OF > DIFFERENCE THEN THE NATIVE MIGHT NOT FEEL HELPED OR SUPPORTED TO HIS > OR HER LIKING. MORE DIFFERENCE MEANS FEELS LESS SUPPORTED. > > WHEN YOU CHECK FOR BOTH LAGNAS IN 2 CHARTS LIKE YOU DID THEN ITS 36 > FOR GIRL AND 37 FOR BOY THEN THOSE SHOW THEIR EACH MINDSET. ITS > BETTER IN SUCH CASES THAT IF ONE OF THE COUPLE HAS HIGH POINTS IN > LAGNA THEN THE OTHER ONE SHOULD HAVE LOW. SO FOR EG IF HERE THE > GIRL HAS 36 POINTS IN LAGNA THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THE > GUY HAD LESS THAN 28 POINTS IN THE LAGNA.. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT GIRL > IS ADAMENT AND THE GUY IS MORE GIVING OR UNDERSTANDING OR > COMPROMISING. > > THIS IS ATLEAST THE UNDERSTANDING U HAVE.. AND OTHERS CAN CORRECT ME > IF I AM WRONG HERE.. CAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. > > > > > Here girl has got 36 and boy has got 37. The difference is less > than 5 and within 5% range. Hence agreeable. > > ASH : AS EXPLAINED ABOVE. > > > Although there can be chances that, since both of them have got > high SAV points in 1st house, clashes on account of excess ego and > self centeredness, still good for sexual compatibility. > > > > ASH : YES, MY UNDERTANDING IS SIMILAR. > > > 2. The combinations of the lord of the lagna, Moon sign and the > Sun sign plus the lord of the 7th house. > > > > REFERENCE GIRL > BOY PLACEMENT POINTS > > > > 1. Ascendant Aries Taurus 2- > 12 00 > > > > 2. Ascendant Lord Mars Venus > Same Sign (Leo) 30 > > > > 3. Moon sign Scorpio Taurus 7- > 7 10 > > > > 4. Moon Lord Mars Venus > 4-10 10 > > > > 5. Sun Sign Cancer Cancer > same sign 30 > > > > 6. Sun Lord Moon Moon > 7-7 10 > > > > > TOTAL > 90/180= 50% > > > > > ASH : THIS AGAIN YOU CHECK FOR INDIVIDUAL CHARTS. > > GIRL HAS : > > LAGNA/7TH : SAME SIGN > SUN/7TH : 5:9 > MOON/7TH : SAME SIGN > MARS/7TH : SAME SIGN > VENUS/7TH : SAME SIGN > > > GUY HAS > > LAGNA/7TH : 3:11 > SUN/7TH : SAME SIGN > MOON/7TH : 3:11 > > So here for girl you can consider same sign as either 2:12 or 4:10 > depending on the distance between the 2 planets. If more 2:12's > then girl would have lesser interest in relationship. 3:11 is ok. > > > Above placements are taken, by overlapping or superimposing one > chart over the other. > > ASH : YOU SHOULD SUPERIMPOSE SIGNS AND ASCENDENTS AND CHECK BOTH > CHARTS W.R.T SHANI, MARS, VENUS AND RAHU. > > > > > 3. As indicated in the worksheet, all the planets must give more > than 12 points. > > ASH : HERE GENERALLY MORE POINTS MEANS MORE POWER. WE ALSO HAVE TO > CHECK HOW THE PLANET HAS RECEIVED POINTS. ALSO WHEN 6TH LORD GETS > MORE POINTS OR 12TH FROM B I.E. 6TH LORD FOR 7TH HOUSE THEN ONE HAS > TO BE CAREFUL AS MORE POINTS GAINED MEANS MORE POWER TO DO DAMAGE OR > SHOW EFFECTS OF 12TH FROM B. > > SO ITS BETTER TO HAVE GOOD POINTS FOR ALL PLANETS FOR 7TH HOUSE > BUT " LESS " POINTS FOR 12TH FROM B OR 6TH LORD. > > OTHERWISE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IS THAT WHEN 6TH LORD HAS GOT MORE > POINTS THEN IT HAS MORE POWER AND IF PERIOD COMES WHEN DELAY IS OVER > IT MAY GIVE MARRIAGE (IF IT DOES NOT ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FOR B=7). > IF THAT CASE HAPPENS THEN MARRIAGE HAS HAPPENED IN 6TH LORDS ANTRA > AND IT MAY HAVE SOME KIND OF PROBLEM OR THE OTHER. THIS AGAIN IS MY > UNDERSTANDING. > > KRUSHNAJI AND MARGARITA CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON MY UNDERSTANDING > ON THIS POINT AS ITS IMPORTANT THAT I GET IT RIGHT. > > > > > In girl's chart except Mercury and in boy's chart except Moon and > Saturn, are giving more than 12 points. > > > > 1-3/14 = 79%, Matching. > > > > 4. To have none of the planets aspecting the A, B and C houses > would be the ideal condition. > > > > In Girl's chart 4 planets are aspecting. In Boy's chart also 4 > planets are aspecting. > > > > 1-8/14 = 43%, Matching. > > ASH : I THINK THE REASONING BEHIND THIS IS THE FACT THAT IF A PLANET > EVEN WITH HIGH POINTS IS ASPECTING EITHER A,B OR C THEN THEY > THEMSELVES CANNOT GIVE RESULTS SO IF ALL PLANET HAVE HIGH POINTS ITS > NO USE IF THE ASPECT A,B,C AS THEY WOULD RETRACT FROM GIVING RESULTS. > > > > > 6. There should be no aspect of the sixth lord (the 12th from the > 7th house) on the 7th house at the very least. > > > > In girl's chart 6th lord is along with 7th lord and it is > aspecting House C. In boy's chart 6th lord is placed in House A. > > > > 1-3/12 = 75%, Matching. > > ASH : WHAT IS THIS MATCHING ? WHAT IS THIS SHOWING. > > > > > 9. When the sixth lord is in the 4th or the 12th house (meaning > the 10th and the 6th from the 7th house) it can reduce the marital > happiness. > > > > > > ASH : WE SHOULD CHECK OVERALL RELATION TO 6TH LORD FOR THE PLANETS. > THIS COULD BE IN NASHATRA OF 6TH LORD, OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD. > > > > > No such placements are observed, hence 100% matching. > > > > > > > > 10. Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Libra and Pisces are the signs of love. A > minimum of 28 points in these signs in the sarvashtakavarga brings > more success to the marital life. > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGN GIRL SAV BOY SAV > > > > > > > > Taurus 34 37 > > > > > > > > Cancer 22 29 > > > > > > > > Leo > 21 24 > > > > > > > > Libra > 24 33 > > > > > > > > Pisces 26 > 37 > > > > > > > > TOTAL 127 160 > > > > > > > > % 90% 114% > > > > > > > > The boy would be more romantic than the Girl. Over all there is > Matching. > > > > > > > > 11. More then 4 points in the above signs by the Sun, the Moon and > Venus, makes the person more romantic in his/her love life. > > > > > > > > Girl has got :(4+7+4)+(5+0+3)+(4+3+2)+(4+3+5)+(5+2+4) :- 9/15 = > 60%. > > > > > > > > Boy has got: (6+4+4)+(3+5+6)+(5+1+5)+(4+7+3)+(6+5+5):- 12/15= 80% > > > > > > > > 60+80/200 = 70% Matching. > > > > > > > > 12. Only the sun in Pisces with more then 4 points makes the > standards of the person somewhat lower and consequently love is > restricted to physical contacts only. > > > > > > > > Both have got more than 4 points in Pisces for Sun. Hence 00% > Matching. > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. More points in the 10th or 1st house, or the 8th or 6th house, > although it increases the status of the person will also reduce the > happiness in the married life. > > > > > > > > > > > > HOUSE NO. GIRL BOY > > > > > > > > 10 33 29 > > > > > > > > 01 36 37 > > > > > > > > 08 21 24 > > > > > > > > 06 32 33 > > > > > > > > 3/8 = 37%, Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL OVER ALL MATCHING = 75.4/100 = 75.4% > > > > > > > > I am not cross checking the super imposing effects of the Venus, > Mars, Saturn etc., separately, because these factors rather can show > tendency towards falling in love. This couple are settling for an > 100% arranged marriage. Before the initiation of marriage proposal, > they never had seen each other. > > > > ASH : THIS CHECKING IS FOR CHEMISTRY. FOR LOVE MARRIAGE LOD AND LOE > FOR 7TH AND 5TH IF THEY HAVE SOME RELATION THEN IT COULD BE LOVE > MARRIAGE. > > EVEN IF THERE IS ARRANGED MARRIAGE THERE HAS TO BE CHEMISTRY (AFTER > MARRIAGE) TO SUSTAIN IT ATLEAST IN MODERN TIMES. > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Krushna has made it clear in the notes that, when marriage do > happen in the planetary periods having low points/planets connected > with 6th house, that indicates problems in the married life. As > such it is anybody's guess what percentage of couples are free from > any kind of incompatibility. > > > > ASH : HERE RELATION MEANS, SAY A PLANET X IS GIVING RESULTS THEN > CHECK X IF ITS IN NAKSHATRA OF 6TH LORD OR SAMDHARMI TO 6TH LORD > (4:10), CHECK HOW ITS GOT POWER, CHECK ITS ASSOCIATION WITH 6TH LORD > IN NAVAMSA (ALL THESE THINGS ARE BUNDLED TOGETHER WHEN WE SAY > SAMDHARMI AS INORDER FOR A PLANET TO BECOME SAMDHARMI THEY NEED TO > BE ASSOCIATED AS PER LESSON). > oTHER THINGS THAT ARE GIVEN SEPERATELY IS THE FACT IF 6TH LORD IS > PLACED IN 7TH HOUSE OR IN HOUSE D OR E THEN IT REDUCES RESULT OF > THESE HOUSES. > > > > > > No strong indications of divorces are seen in both the chart. > > > > > > > > For Girl, FK and NK both is Venus. Venus is afflicted by 6th lord > in 5th, house of relation. That might denote no love marriage. The > Venus is aspected by Saturn and Mars in Navamsha. This combination > can produce extra passion. Native because her egocentric nature may > not be able to enjoy in free atmosphere. All the time during love > making she might be out of mood. This dis-satisfaction slightly > cause infidelity! > > > > ASH : KARAK HAS RESPONSIBILITY OF WELL BEING OF A HOUSE. IF THATS > AFFLICTED THEN OVERALL HAPPINESS OF THE HOUSE ITS KARAK FOR IS > REDUCED. > > > > > > > Boy has got strong connectivity between Saturn and Moon. This is > not healthy for mental peace. His position of Rahu might tempt him > for some low morale attitudes. > > > > > > > > The boy may have to put little extra effort to manage the relation > smoothly. The compromising nature shall be more with the boy. > > > > > > > > In boy chart, Saturn is contributing less than 12 points for 8 > houses. Hence it is very weak planet. Over all Saturn dasa shall be > very testing time for couple. > > > > > > > > I shall stop here. > > > > > > > > Please help with your valuable corrections and inputs, > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Rajashri. > > > > GOOD ATTEMPT, > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > > > Dear Ash and Margarita, > > > > Thanks a lot for your help and guidance. > > > > Indeed, as Margarita pointed out, the fiancé of the lady has got > 37 SAV points in ascendant. > > {Male:- August 5, 1972; 02-02Hrs(IST); TZ:05-30Hrs east; > 74E24,14N25} > > > > {Female:-August 5th, 1976; 23-12Hrs(IST); 74E24, 14N25; TZ:05- > 30Hrs East} > > > > The thing I was looking is not just probable date but the > consequences, if marriage happens in this June-2003, as being > decided and planned! > > > > What I wondering was, the lady is running with Mercury Bhukti, > which is very weak and is aspecting one of the Karaka houses for > marriage. In one of the recent message Ash told that, marriage > happening in such periods shall be reverted back in the coming > periods of planets connected with House D/E. > > > > The planetary combination in the lady's chart did not seem to > indicative for a happy and conjugal married life. > > > > Under such circumstances, please can you comment, astrologically > are there any slim chances that the marriage shall be postponed due > to unavoidable and for unseen reasons? > > > > > > As we can see both Boy and Girl have combination for late > marriage. It is believed in traditional system of astrology that > when Moon and Saturn gets closely connected and influences 7th > house, there would be postponement of marriage date at very advance > stages. This combination is strong in Boy's chart. But what I do not > know is whether such things have transpired with the native (male) > in past or not! > > > > As the boy is running with 32nd year, the marriage can be termed > as late. Age 26, for a lady is also not even medium in Hindu > tradition. I am really confused! > > > > Please liberally provide your inputs. > > > > I will come with more points on the boy's chart. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rajashri. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Peter and Margarita, Thank you for your answers. I think Margarita has said the similar thing as Peter has explained. I do see your and Margaritas understanding regarding this. I need to think more about this aspect. I think I still need to understand in more detail what do high points in 1st house mean then.... I hope Krushnaji can shed more light on this topic. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Hi Ash, > The main thing I remember Krushna saying about high points in the 1st house > was that made the person extroverted (that wasn't the word he used) and if > the 7th house had more than 10% less points than the 1st then that person > would be the dominating partner in the relationship. In my own chart I have > high points but my wife has similar high points which is probably why we > have formed such a good partnership which has lasted over 50 years. > > Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear friends, As Mr.Ash had asked me I am posting one chart of a lady who is having major problems in her married life. Likely divorce in near future.she has jupiter in libra and Ven in Jyestha nakshtra.As 5 minutes change lafga I have made a chart for both Leo and Cancer lagna. Reported time gives leo lagna. I have used Krishna Ji's Aynamsa and Varhamihra Astakvarga Imprtant events: marriage in march 90 abroad in nov,dec 90 daughter 92 son 96 govt job-1998 With regards, Jagmeet Natal Chart December 20, 1969Time: 21:40:40Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 74 E 53' 00"Latitude: 31 N 35' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Year: SaumyaLunar Month: MargasiraTithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.47% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Krittika (69.69% left)Yoga: SiddhaKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Jupiter Sunrise: 7:26:01Sunset: 17:29:56Janma Ghatis: 35.6105 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 29 Cn 34' 35.29" Aasresha 4 Cn Pi -Sun 5 Sg 12' 17.26" Moola 2 Sg Ta GKMoon 0 Ta 42' 28.38" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DKMars 10 Aq 22' 20.58" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BKMercury 23 Sg 11' 51.83" Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmKJupiter 7 Li 14' 04.50" Swathi 1 Li Sg PKVenus 26 Sc 47' 42.73" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AKSaturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.70" Aswini 3 Ar Ge MKRahu 22 Aq 27' 58.62" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiKKetu 22 Le 27' 58.62" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Bhava Lagna 8 Cn 15' 48.37" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -Hora Lagna 11 Aq 55' 34.58" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp -Ghati Lagna 22 Sc 54' 53.21" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Vighati Lagna 17 Li 51' 26.34" Swathi 4 Li Pi -Sree Lagna 18 Sc 41' 21.59" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 17.26" Bharani 2 Ar Vi -Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 42.74" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li -Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 42.74" Hastha 1 Vi Ar -Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 17.26" Swathi 4 Li Pi -Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 17.26" Anuradha 1 Sc Le -Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23" Swathi 1 Li Sg -Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70" Aardra 4 Ge Pi -Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84" Makha 4 Le Cn -Varnada Lagna 18 Cp 29' 50.13" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -V2 18 Sc 29' 50.13" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -V3 18 Vi 29' 50.13" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -V4 18 Cn 29' 50.13" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -V5 18 Ta 29' 50.13" Rohini 3 Ta Ge -V6 18 Pi 29' 50.13" Revathi 1 Pi Sg -V7 18 Cp 29' 50.13" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -V8 18 Sc 29' 50.13" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -V9 18 Vi 29' 50.13" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -V10 18 Cn 29' 50.13" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -V11 18 Ta 29' 50.13" Rohini 3 Ta Ge - Rasi +--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Ket / \ / || \ / 32 \ 21 / || \ 31 / \ / || \ / \ / || 34 x Asc x Moo || / \ / \ || / \ / \ 30 || / \ / \ || / \ 4 / \ || / \ / \ || 36 Jup x SatR || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ 27 / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Ven x x || / \ 18 / \ || 22 / \ / \ 28 || / 24 \ / \ || / Sun \ / Mar \ || / Mer \ / Rah 29 \ |+--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Rah / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / Ven \ / || \ / \ / HL ||Sun x Asc x Mar Moo || / \ / \ GL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / AL \ 12 / \ || / \ / \ || SatR x Jup || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Glk x x Mnd || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / Mer \ || / \ / Ket \ |+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Sun Sun 1968-02-25 Moo 1968-06-14 Mar 1968-12-13 Rah 1969-04-20 Jup 1970-03-15 Sat 1971-01-01 Mer 1971-12-14 Ket 1972-10-20 Ven 1973-02-24 Moo Moo 1974-02-25 Mar 1974-12-26 Rah 1975-07-27 Jup 1977-01-25 Sat 1978-05-27 Mer 1979-12-26 Ket 1981-05-27 Ven 1981-12-26 Sun 1983-08-26 Mar Mar 1984-02-25 Rah 1984-07-23 Jup 1985-08-11 Sat 1986-07-18 Mer 1987-08-26 Ket 1988-08-23 Ven 1989-01-19 Sun 1990-03-21 Moo 1990-07-27 Rah Rah 1991-02-25 Jup 1993-11-07 Sat 1996-04-02 Mer 1999-02-06 Ket 2001-08-26 Ven 2002-09-13 Sun 2005-09-13 Moo 2006-08-08 Mar 2008-02-07 Jup Jup 2009-02-24 Sat 2011-04-14 Mer 2013-10-26 Ket 2016-01-31 Ven 2017-01-06 Sun 2019-09-07 Moo 2020-06-26 Mar 2021-10-26 Rah 2022-10-01 Sat Sat 2025-02-24 Mer 2028-02-28 Ket 2030-11-07 Ven 2031-12-17 Sun 2035-02-15 Moo 2036-01-28 Mar 2037-08-29 Rah 2038-10-07 Jup 2041-08-13 Mer Mer 2044-02-25 Ket 2046-07-23 Ven 2047-07-20 Sun 2050-05-20 Moo 2051-03-27 Mar 2052-08-25 Rah 2053-08-22 Jup 2056-03-11 Sat 2058-06-17 Ket Ket 2061-02-24 Ven 2061-07-23 Sun 2062-09-22 Moo 2063-01-28 Mar 2063-08-29 Rah 2064-01-25 Jup 2065-02-12 Sat 2066-01-18 Mer 2067-02-27 Ven Ven 2068-02-24 Sun 2071-06-26 Moo 2072-06-25 Mar 2074-02-24 Rah 2075-04-26 Jup 2078-04-26 Sat 2080-12-25 Mer 2084-02-24 Ket 2086-12-25 Natal Chart December 20, 1969Time: 21:45:40Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 74 E 53' 00"Latitude: 31 N 35' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Year: SaumyaLunar Month: MargasiraTithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.14% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Krittika (69.36% left)Yoga: SiddhaKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Jupiter Sunrise: 7:26:01Sunset: 17:29:56Janma Ghatis: 35.8188 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 0 Le 37' 51.34" Makha 1 Le Ar -Sun 5 Sg 12' 29.98" Moola 2 Sg Ta GKMoon 0 Ta 45' 04.98" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DKMars 10 Aq 22' 29.91" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BKMercury 23 Sg 12' 09.42" Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmKJupiter 7 Li 14' 06.48" Swathi 1 Li Sg PKVenus 26 Sc 47' 58.45" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AKSaturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.38" Aswini 3 Ar Ge MKRahu 22 Aq 27' 57.96" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiKKetu 22 Le 27' 57.96" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -Bhava Lagna 9 Cn 30' 48.34" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -Hora Lagna 14 Aq 25' 34.52" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -Ghati Lagna 29 Sc 09' 53.07" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi -Vighati Lagna 12 Sc 51' 25.81" Anuradha 3 Sc Li -Sree Lagna 20 Sc 55' 05.75" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 29.98" Bharani 2 Ar Vi -Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 30.02" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li -Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 30.02" Hastha 1 Vi Ar -Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 29.98" Swathi 4 Li Pi -Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 29.98" Anuradha 1 Sc Le -Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23" Swathi 1 Li Sg -Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70" Aardra 4 Ge Pi -Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84" Makha 4 Le Cn -Varnada Lagna 15 Ge 03' 25.86" Aardra 3 Ge Aq -V2 15 Le 03' 25.86" Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le -V3 15 Li 03' 25.86" Swathi 3 Li Aq -V4 15 Sg 03' 25.86" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -V5 15 Aq 03' 25.86" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -V6 15 Ar 03' 25.86" Bharani 1 Ar Le -V7 15 Ge 03' 25.86" Aardra 3 Ge Aq -V8 15 Le 03' 25.86" Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le -V9 15 Li 03' 25.86" Swathi 3 Li Aq -V10 15 Sg 03' 25.86" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -V11 15 Aq 03' 25.86" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - Rasi +--------------+| \ / \ / || \ 32 / \ 28 / || \ / 33 \ / || \ / Ket \ / ||36 \ / \ / ||Jup x Asc x 27 || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 5 / \ || / \ / \ || 25 Ven x Moo || \ / \ / || \ / \ 29 / || \ / \ / || \ / Rah \ / || 25 \ / \ / ||Sun Mer x Mar x SatR|| / \ / \ || / \ 28 / \ 23 || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / 23 \ / 28 \ |+--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+| \ / \ GL / || \ Sun / \ Ven / || \ / \ / || \ / Rah \ / || \ / \ / ||SatR x Asc x HL || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / AL \ 1 / Mar \ || / \ / \ || Glk x Moo || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / Ket \ / || \ / \ / || x Mer x Jup || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / Mnd \ || / \ / \ |+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Sun Sun 1968-02-18 Moo 1968-06-07 Mar 1968-12-06 Rah 1969-04-13 Jup 1970-03-08 Sat 1970-12-25 Mer 1971-12-07 Ket 1972-10-12 Ven 1973-02-17 Moo Moo 1974-02-18 Mar 1974-12-19 Rah 1975-07-20 Jup 1977-01-18 Sat 1978-05-20 Mer 1979-12-19 Ket 1981-05-20 Ven 1981-12-19 Sun 1983-08-19 Mar Mar 1984-02-18 Rah 1984-07-16 Jup 1985-08-04 Sat 1986-07-10 Mer 1987-08-19 Ket 1988-08-15 Ven 1989-01-12 Sun 1990-03-14 Moo 1990-07-20 Rah Rah 1991-02-18 Jup 1993-10-31 Sat 1996-03-25 Mer 1999-01-30 Ket 2001-08-19 Ven 2002-09-06 Sun 2005-09-06 Moo 2006-08-01 Mar 2008-01-30 Jup Jup 2009-02-17 Sat 2011-04-07 Mer 2013-10-18 Ket 2016-01-24 Ven 2016-12-30 Sun 2019-08-31 Moo 2020-06-18 Mar 2021-10-18 Rah 2022-09-24 Sat Sat 2025-02-17 Mer 2028-02-21 Ket 2030-10-31 Ven 2031-12-10 Sun 2035-02-08 Moo 2036-01-21 Mar 2037-08-21 Rah 2038-09-30 Jup 2041-08-06 Mer Mer 2044-02-17 Ket 2046-07-16 Ven 2047-07-13 Sun 2050-05-13 Moo 2051-03-20 Mar 2052-08-18 Rah 2053-08-15 Jup 2056-03-04 Sat 2058-06-09 Ket Ket 2061-02-17 Ven 2061-07-16 Sun 2062-09-15 Moo 2063-01-21 Mar 2063-08-22 Rah 2064-01-18 Jup 2065-02-04 Sat 2066-01-11 Mer 2067-02-20 Ven Ven 2068-02-17 Sun 2071-06-19 Moo 2072-06-18 Mar 2074-02-17 Rah 2075-04-19 Jup 2078-04-19 Sat 2080-12-18 Mer 2084-02-17 Ket 2086-12-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Dear Jagmeet, Thank you very much for posting this chart and I am glad you picked up the problem areas in this chart. The reason I had asked you to post this chart on this list because we were just discussing the effects of Guru in libra and venus in krittika, mula, jayeshta nakshatra on how it creates some problems or the other. I just got back from London, England so I shall try to match the events of marriage and birth of child when I get some more time. This also shows the laws given here by Krushnaji and as taught work unfallibaly. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , jagmeet dhendsa <jagmeetdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear friends, > As Mr.Ash had asked me I am posting one chart of a lady who is having > major problems in her married life. Likely divorce in near future.she has > jupiter in libra and Ven in Jyestha nakshtra.As 5 minutes change lafga I > have made a chart for both Leo and Cancer lagna. Reported time gives leo > lagna. > I have used Krishna Ji's Aynamsa and Varhamihra Astakvarga > Imprtant events: > marriage in march 90 > abroad in nov,dec 90 > daughter 92 > son 96 > govt job-1998 > > With regards, > Jagmeet > Natal Chart > > December 20, 1969 > Time: 21:40:40 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 74 E 53' 00 " > Latitude: 31 N 35' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Year: Saumya > Lunar Month: Margasira > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.47% left) > Weekday: Saturday > Nakshatra: Krittika (69.69% left) > Yoga: Siddha > Karana: Kaulava > Hora Lord: Jupiter > > Sunrise: 7:26:01 > Sunset: 17:29:56 > Janma Ghatis: 35.6105 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 29 Cn 34' 35.29 " Aasresha 4 Cn Pi - > Sun 5 Sg 12' 17.26 " Moola 2 Sg Ta GK > Moon 0 Ta 42' 28.38 " Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK > Mars 10 Aq 22' 20.58 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK > Mercury 23 Sg 11' 51.83 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK > Jupiter 7 Li 14' 04.50 " Swathi 1 Li Sg PK > Venus 26 Sc 47' 42.73 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK > Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.70 " Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK > Rahu 22 Aq 27' 58.62 " Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK > Ketu 22 Le 27' 58.62 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li - > Bhava Lagna 8 Cn 15' 48.37 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Hora Lagna 11 Aq 55' 34.58 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp - > Ghati Lagna 22 Sc 54' 53.21 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Vighati Lagna 17 Li 51' 26.34 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Sree Lagna 18 Sc 41' 21.59 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 17.26 " Bharani 2 Ar Vi - > Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 42.74 " U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li - > Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 42.74 " Hastha 1 Vi Ar - > Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 17.26 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 17.26 " Anuradha 1 Sc Le - > Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23 " Swathi 1 Li Sg - > Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi - > Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44 " Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84 " Makha 4 Le Cn - > Varnada Lagna 18 Cp 29' 50.13 " Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - > V2 18 Sc 29' 50.13 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > V3 18 Vi 29' 50.13 " Hastha 3 Vi Ge - > V4 18 Cn 29' 50.13 " Aasresha 1 Cn Sg - > V5 18 Ta 29' 50.13 " Rohini 3 Ta Ge - > V6 18 Pi 29' 50.13 " Revathi 1 Pi Sg - > V7 18 Cp 29' 50.13 " Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - > V8 18 Sc 29' 50.13 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > V9 18 Vi 29' 50.13 " Hastha 3 Vi Ge - > V10 18 Cn 29' 50.13 " Aasresha 1 Cn Sg - > V11 18 Ta 29' 50.13 " Rohini 3 Ta Ge - > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ket / \ / | > | \ / 32 \ 21 / | > | \ 31 / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | 34 x Asc x Moo | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ 30 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | 36 Jup x SatR | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ 27 / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ven x x | > | / \ 18 / \ | > | 22 / \ / \ 28 | > | / 24 \ / \ | > | / Sun \ / Mar \ | > | / Mer \ / Rah 29 \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Rah / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ven \ / | > | \ / \ / HL | > |Sun x Asc x Mar Moo | > | / \ / \ GL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / AL \ 12 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | SatR x Jup | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Glk x x Mnd | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Mer \ | > | / \ / Ket \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sun Sun 1968-02-25 Moo 1968-06-14 Mar 1968-12-13 > Rah 1969-04-20 Jup 1970-03-15 Sat 1971-01-01 > Mer 1971-12-14 Ket 1972-10-20 Ven 1973-02-24 > Moo Moo 1974-02-25 Mar 1974-12-26 Rah 1975-07-27 > Jup 1977-01-25 Sat 1978-05-27 Mer 1979-12-26 > Ket 1981-05-27 Ven 1981-12-26 Sun 1983-08-26 > Mar Mar 1984-02-25 Rah 1984-07-23 Jup 1985-08-11 > Sat 1986-07-18 Mer 1987-08-26 Ket 1988-08-23 > Ven 1989-01-19 Sun 1990-03-21 Moo 1990-07-27 > Rah Rah 1991-02-25 Jup 1993-11-07 Sat 1996-04-02 > Mer 1999-02-06 Ket 2001-08-26 Ven 2002-09-13 > Sun 2005-09-13 Moo 2006-08-08 Mar 2008-02-07 > Jup Jup 2009-02-24 Sat 2011-04-14 Mer 2013-10-26 > Ket 2016-01-31 Ven 2017-01-06 Sun 2019-09-07 > Moo 2020-06-26 Mar 2021-10-26 Rah 2022-10-01 > Sat Sat 2025-02-24 Mer 2028-02-28 Ket 2030-11-07 > Ven 2031-12-17 Sun 2035-02-15 Moo 2036-01-28 > Mar 2037-08-29 Rah 2038-10-07 Jup 2041-08-13 > Mer Mer 2044-02-25 Ket 2046-07-23 Ven 2047-07-20 > Sun 2050-05-20 Moo 2051-03-27 Mar 2052-08-25 > Rah 2053-08-22 Jup 2056-03-11 Sat 2058-06-17 > Ket Ket 2061-02-24 Ven 2061-07-23 Sun 2062-09-22 > Moo 2063-01-28 Mar 2063-08-29 Rah 2064-01-25 > Jup 2065-02-12 Sat 2066-01-18 Mer 2067-02-27 > Ven Ven 2068-02-24 Sun 2071-06-26 Moo 2072-06-25 > Mar 2074-02-24 Rah 2075-04-26 Jup 2078-04-26 > Sat 2080-12-25 Mer 2084-02-24 Ket 2086-12-25 > > > > Natal Chart > > December 20, 1969 > Time: 21:45:40 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 74 E 53' 00 " > Latitude: 31 N 35' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Year: Saumya > Lunar Month: Margasira > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.14% left) > Weekday: Saturday > Nakshatra: Krittika (69.36% left) > Yoga: Siddha > Karana: Kaulava > Hora Lord: Jupiter > > Sunrise: 7:26:01 > Sunset: 17:29:56 > Janma Ghatis: 35.8188 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 0 Le 37' 51.34 " Makha 1 Le Ar - > Sun 5 Sg 12' 29.98 " Moola 2 Sg Ta GK > Moon 0 Ta 45' 04.98 " Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK > Mars 10 Aq 22' 29.91 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK > Mercury 23 Sg 12' 09.42 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK > Jupiter 7 Li 14' 06.48 " Swathi 1 Li Sg PK > Venus 26 Sc 47' 58.45 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK > Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.38 " Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK > Rahu 22 Aq 27' 57.96 " Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK > Ketu 22 Le 27' 57.96 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li - > Bhava Lagna 9 Cn 30' 48.34 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Hora Lagna 14 Aq 25' 34.52 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > Ghati Lagna 29 Sc 09' 53.07 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi - > Vighati Lagna 12 Sc 51' 25.81 " Anuradha 3 Sc Li - > Sree Lagna 20 Sc 55' 05.75 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 29.98 " Bharani 2 Ar Vi - > Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 30.02 " U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li - > Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 30.02 " Hastha 1 Vi Ar - > Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 29.98 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 29.98 " Anuradha 1 Sc Le - > Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23 " Swathi 1 Li Sg - > Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi - > Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44 " Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84 " Makha 4 Le Cn - > Varnada Lagna 15 Ge 03' 25.86 " Aardra 3 Ge Aq - > V2 15 Le 03' 25.86 " Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le - > V3 15 Li 03' 25.86 " Swathi 3 Li Aq - > V4 15 Sg 03' 25.86 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le - > V5 15 Aq 03' 25.86 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > V6 15 Ar 03' 25.86 " Bharani 1 Ar Le - > V7 15 Ge 03' 25.86 " Aardra 3 Ge Aq - > V8 15 Le 03' 25.86 " Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le - > V9 15 Li 03' 25.86 " Swathi 3 Li Aq - > V10 15 Sg 03' 25.86 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le - > V11 15 Aq 03' 25.86 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ 32 / \ 28 / | > | \ / 33 \ / | > | \ / Ket \ / | > |36 \ / \ / | > |Jup x Asc x 27 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 5 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | 25 Ven x Moo | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ 29 / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Rah \ / | > | 25 \ / \ / | > |Sun Mer x Mar x SatR| > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 28 / \ 23 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / 23 \ / 28 \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ GL / | > | \ Sun / \ Ven / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Rah \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SatR x Asc x HL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / AL \ 1 / Mar \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Glk x Moo | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ket \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x Mer x Jup | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Mnd \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sun Sun 1968-02-18 Moo 1968-06-07 Mar 1968-12-06 > Rah 1969-04-13 Jup 1970-03-08 Sat 1970-12-25 > Mer 1971-12-07 Ket 1972-10-12 Ven 1973-02-17 > Moo Moo 1974-02-18 Mar 1974-12-19 Rah 1975-07-20 > Jup 1977-01-18 Sat 1978-05-20 Mer 1979-12-19 > Ket 1981-05-20 Ven 1981-12-19 Sun 1983-08-19 > Mar Mar 1984-02-18 Rah 1984-07-16 Jup 1985-08-04 > Sat 1986-07-10 Mer 1987-08-19 Ket 1988-08-15 > Ven 1989-01-12 Sun 1990-03-14 Moo 1990-07-20 > Rah Rah 1991-02-18 Jup 1993-10-31 Sat 1996-03-25 > Mer 1999-01-30 Ket 2001-08-19 Ven 2002-09-06 > Sun 2005-09-06 Moo 2006-08-01 Mar 2008-01-30 > Jup Jup 2009-02-17 Sat 2011-04-07 Mer 2013-10-18 > Ket 2016-01-24 Ven 2016-12-30 Sun 2019-08-31 > Moo 2020-06-18 Mar 2021-10-18 Rah 2022-09-24 > Sat Sat 2025-02-17 Mer 2028-02-21 Ket 2030-10-31 > Ven 2031-12-10 Sun 2035-02-08 Moo 2036-01-21 > Mar 2037-08-21 Rah 2038-09-30 Jup 2041-08-06 > Mer Mer 2044-02-17 Ket 2046-07-16 Ven 2047-07-13 > Sun 2050-05-13 Moo 2051-03-20 Mar 2052-08-18 > Rah 2053-08-15 Jup 2056-03-04 Sat 2058-06-09 > Ket Ket 2061-02-17 Ven 2061-07-16 Sun 2062-09-15 > Moo 2063-01-21 Mar 2063-08-22 Rah 2064-01-18 > Jup 2065-02-04 Sat 2066-01-11 Mer 2067-02-20 > Ven Ven 2068-02-17 Sun 2071-06-19 Moo 2072-06-18 > Mar 2074-02-17 Rah 2075-04-19 Jup 2078-04-19 > Sat 2080-12-18 Mer 2084-02-17 Ket 2086-12-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Margarita, Rajashri and list members, Here is a chart which has 2 possible lagnas. We know that this lady is going through marritial problems. This would be a good exercise to find out which is her lagna as a small difference in birth time will change the lagna. By trying to solve this chart a lot of things regarding points, placement of planets etc will come forward. Its a good exercise if anyone wants to take a try. Thaking you, Cheers !!! Ash , jagmeet dhendsa <jagmeetdheendsa@j...> wrote: > Dear friends, > As Mr.Ash had asked me I am posting one chart of a lady who is having > major problems in her married life. Likely divorce in near future.she has > jupiter in libra and Ven in Jyestha nakshtra.As 5 minutes change lafga I > have made a chart for both Leo and Cancer lagna. Reported time gives leo > lagna. > I have used Krishna Ji's Aynamsa and Varhamihra Astakvarga > Imprtant events: > marriage in march 90 > abroad in nov,dec 90 > daughter 92 > son 96 > govt job-1998 > > With regards, > Jagmeet > Natal Chart > > December 20, 1969 > Time: 21:40:40 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 74 E 53' 00 " > Latitude: 31 N 35' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Year: Saumya > Lunar Month: Margasira > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.47% left) > Weekday: Saturday > Nakshatra: Krittika (69.69% left) > Yoga: Siddha > Karana: Kaulava > Hora Lord: Jupiter > > Sunrise: 7:26:01 > Sunset: 17:29:56 > Janma Ghatis: 35.6105 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 29 Cn 34' 35.29 " Aasresha 4 Cn Pi - > Sun 5 Sg 12' 17.26 " Moola 2 Sg Ta GK > Moon 0 Ta 42' 28.38 " Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK > Mars 10 Aq 22' 20.58 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK > Mercury 23 Sg 11' 51.83 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK > Jupiter 7 Li 14' 04.50 " Swathi 1 Li Sg PK > Venus 26 Sc 47' 42.73 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK > Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.70 " Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK > Rahu 22 Aq 27' 58.62 " Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK > Ketu 22 Le 27' 58.62 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li - > Bhava Lagna 8 Cn 15' 48.37 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Hora Lagna 11 Aq 55' 34.58 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp - > Ghati Lagna 22 Sc 54' 53.21 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Vighati Lagna 17 Li 51' 26.34 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Sree Lagna 18 Sc 41' 21.59 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 17.26 " Bharani 2 Ar Vi - > Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 42.74 " U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li - > Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 42.74 " Hastha 1 Vi Ar - > Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 17.26 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 17.26 " Anuradha 1 Sc Le - > Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23 " Swathi 1 Li Sg - > Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi - > Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44 " Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84 " Makha 4 Le Cn - > Varnada Lagna 18 Cp 29' 50.13 " Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - > V2 18 Sc 29' 50.13 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > V3 18 Vi 29' 50.13 " Hastha 3 Vi Ge - > V4 18 Cn 29' 50.13 " Aasresha 1 Cn Sg - > V5 18 Ta 29' 50.13 " Rohini 3 Ta Ge - > V6 18 Pi 29' 50.13 " Revathi 1 Pi Sg - > V7 18 Cp 29' 50.13 " Sravanam 3 Cp Ge - > V8 18 Sc 29' 50.13 " Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg - > V9 18 Vi 29' 50.13 " Hastha 3 Vi Ge - > V10 18 Cn 29' 50.13 " Aasresha 1 Cn Sg - > V11 18 Ta 29' 50.13 " Rohini 3 Ta Ge - > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ket / \ / | > | \ / 32 \ 21 / | > | \ 31 / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | 34 x Asc x Moo | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ 30 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | 36 Jup x SatR | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ 27 / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ven x x | > | / \ 18 / \ | > | 22 / \ / \ 28 | > | / 24 \ / \ | > | / Sun \ / Mar \ | > | / Mer \ / Rah 29 \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Rah / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ven \ / | > | \ / \ / HL | > |Sun x Asc x Mar Moo | > | / \ / \ GL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / AL \ 12 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | SatR x Jup | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Glk x x Mnd | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Mer \ | > | / \ / Ket \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sun Sun 1968-02-25 Moo 1968-06-14 Mar 1968-12-13 > Rah 1969-04-20 Jup 1970-03-15 Sat 1971-01-01 > Mer 1971-12-14 Ket 1972-10-20 Ven 1973-02-24 > Moo Moo 1974-02-25 Mar 1974-12-26 Rah 1975-07-27 > Jup 1977-01-25 Sat 1978-05-27 Mer 1979-12-26 > Ket 1981-05-27 Ven 1981-12-26 Sun 1983-08-26 > Mar Mar 1984-02-25 Rah 1984-07-23 Jup 1985-08-11 > Sat 1986-07-18 Mer 1987-08-26 Ket 1988-08-23 > Ven 1989-01-19 Sun 1990-03-21 Moo 1990-07-27 > Rah Rah 1991-02-25 Jup 1993-11-07 Sat 1996-04-02 > Mer 1999-02-06 Ket 2001-08-26 Ven 2002-09-13 > Sun 2005-09-13 Moo 2006-08-08 Mar 2008-02-07 > Jup Jup 2009-02-24 Sat 2011-04-14 Mer 2013-10-26 > Ket 2016-01-31 Ven 2017-01-06 Sun 2019-09-07 > Moo 2020-06-26 Mar 2021-10-26 Rah 2022-10-01 > Sat Sat 2025-02-24 Mer 2028-02-28 Ket 2030-11-07 > Ven 2031-12-17 Sun 2035-02-15 Moo 2036-01-28 > Mar 2037-08-29 Rah 2038-10-07 Jup 2041-08-13 > Mer Mer 2044-02-25 Ket 2046-07-23 Ven 2047-07-20 > Sun 2050-05-20 Moo 2051-03-27 Mar 2052-08-25 > Rah 2053-08-22 Jup 2056-03-11 Sat 2058-06-17 > Ket Ket 2061-02-24 Ven 2061-07-23 Sun 2062-09-22 > Moo 2063-01-28 Mar 2063-08-29 Rah 2064-01-25 > Jup 2065-02-12 Sat 2066-01-18 Mer 2067-02-27 > Ven Ven 2068-02-24 Sun 2071-06-26 Moo 2072-06-25 > Mar 2074-02-24 Rah 2075-04-26 Jup 2078-04-26 > Sat 2080-12-25 Mer 2084-02-24 Ket 2086-12-25 > > > > Natal Chart > > December 20, 1969 > Time: 21:45:40 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 74 E 53' 00 " > Latitude: 31 N 35' 00 " > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Year: Saumya > Lunar Month: Margasira > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.14% left) > Weekday: Saturday > Nakshatra: Krittika (69.36% left) > Yoga: Siddha > Karana: Kaulava > Hora Lord: Jupiter > > Sunrise: 7:26:01 > Sunset: 17:29:56 > Janma Ghatis: 35.8188 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 0 Le 37' 51.34 " Makha 1 Le Ar - > Sun 5 Sg 12' 29.98 " Moola 2 Sg Ta GK > Moon 0 Ta 45' 04.98 " Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK > Mars 10 Aq 22' 29.91 " Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK > Mercury 23 Sg 12' 09.42 " Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK > Jupiter 7 Li 14' 06.48 " Swathi 1 Li Sg PK > Venus 26 Sc 47' 58.45 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK > Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.38 " Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK > Rahu 22 Aq 27' 57.96 " Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK > Ketu 22 Le 27' 57.96 " Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li - > Bhava Lagna 9 Cn 30' 48.34 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Hora Lagna 14 Aq 25' 34.52 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > Ghati Lagna 29 Sc 09' 53.07 " Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi - > Vighati Lagna 12 Sc 51' 25.81 " Anuradha 3 Sc Li - > Sree Lagna 20 Sc 55' 05.75 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 29.98 " Bharani 2 Ar Vi - > Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 30.02 " U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li - > Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 30.02 " Hastha 1 Vi Ar - > Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 29.98 " Swathi 4 Li Pi - > Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 29.98 " Anuradha 1 Sc Le - > Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23 " Swathi 1 Li Sg - > Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72 " Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp - > Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70 " Aardra 4 Ge Pi - > Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30 " Pushyami 2 Cn Vi - > Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44 " Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84 " Makha 4 Le Cn - > Varnada Lagna 15 Ge 03' 25.86 " Aardra 3 Ge Aq - > V2 15 Le 03' 25.86 " Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le - > V3 15 Li 03' 25.86 " Swathi 3 Li Aq - > V4 15 Sg 03' 25.86 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le - > V5 15 Aq 03' 25.86 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > V6 15 Ar 03' 25.86 " Bharani 1 Ar Le - > V7 15 Ge 03' 25.86 " Aardra 3 Ge Aq - > V8 15 Le 03' 25.86 " Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le - > V9 15 Li 03' 25.86 " Swathi 3 Li Aq - > V10 15 Sg 03' 25.86 " Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le - > V11 15 Aq 03' 25.86 " Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq - > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ 32 / \ 28 / | > | \ / 33 \ / | > | \ / Ket \ / | > |36 \ / \ / | > |Jup x Asc x 27 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 5 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | 25 Ven x Moo | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ 29 / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Rah \ / | > | 25 \ / \ / | > |Sun Mer x Mar x SatR| > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 28 / \ 23 | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / 23 \ / 28 \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ GL / | > | \ Sun / \ Ven / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Rah \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SatR x Asc x HL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / AL \ 1 / Mar \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Glk x Moo | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ket \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x Mer x Jup | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / Mnd \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sun Sun 1968-02-18 Moo 1968-06-07 Mar 1968-12-06 > Rah 1969-04-13 Jup 1970-03-08 Sat 1970-12-25 > Mer 1971-12-07 Ket 1972-10-12 Ven 1973-02-17 > Moo Moo 1974-02-18 Mar 1974-12-19 Rah 1975-07-20 > Jup 1977-01-18 Sat 1978-05-20 Mer 1979-12-19 > Ket 1981-05-20 Ven 1981-12-19 Sun 1983-08-19 > Mar Mar 1984-02-18 Rah 1984-07-16 Jup 1985-08-04 > Sat 1986-07-10 Mer 1987-08-19 Ket 1988-08-15 > Ven 1989-01-12 Sun 1990-03-14 Moo 1990-07-20 > Rah Rah 1991-02-18 Jup 1993-10-31 Sat 1996-03-25 > Mer 1999-01-30 Ket 2001-08-19 Ven 2002-09-06 > Sun 2005-09-06 Moo 2006-08-01 Mar 2008-01-30 > Jup Jup 2009-02-17 Sat 2011-04-07 Mer 2013-10-18 > Ket 2016-01-24 Ven 2016-12-30 Sun 2019-08-31 > Moo 2020-06-18 Mar 2021-10-18 Rah 2022-09-24 > Sat Sat 2025-02-17 Mer 2028-02-21 Ket 2030-10-31 > Ven 2031-12-10 Sun 2035-02-08 Moo 2036-01-21 > Mar 2037-08-21 Rah 2038-09-30 Jup 2041-08-06 > Mer Mer 2044-02-17 Ket 2046-07-16 Ven 2047-07-13 > Sun 2050-05-13 Moo 2051-03-20 Mar 2052-08-18 > Rah 2053-08-15 Jup 2056-03-04 Sat 2058-06-09 > Ket Ket 2061-02-17 Ven 2061-07-16 Sun 2062-09-15 > Moo 2063-01-21 Mar 2063-08-22 Rah 2064-01-18 > Jup 2065-02-04 Sat 2066-01-11 Mer 2067-02-20 > Ven Ven 2068-02-17 Sun 2071-06-19 Moo 2072-06-18 > Mar 2074-02-17 Rah 2075-04-19 Jup 2078-04-19 > Sat 2080-12-18 Mer 2084-02-17 Ket 2086-12-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Ash, For both the timing I am getting Leo rising with Krushna's ayanamsha. I will submit my attempt on the chart after my trip to native. I.E., on 8th May. Thanks, Rajashri. - ashsam73 Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:38 PM Re: Marriage Period wrong? Dear Margarita, Rajashri and list members,Here is a chart which has 2 possible lagnas. We know that this lady is going through marritial problems.This would be a good exercise to find out which is her lagna as a small difference in birth time will change the lagna.By trying to solve this chart a lot of things regarding points, placement of planets etc will come forward.Its a good exercise if anyone wants to take a try.Thaking you,Cheers !!!Ash , jagmeet dhendsa <jagmeetdheendsa@j...> wrote:> Dear friends,> As Mr.Ash had asked me I am posting one chart of a lady who is having> major problems in her married life. Likely divorce in near future.she has> jupiter in libra and Ven in Jyestha nakshtra.As 5 minutes change lafga I> have made a chart for both Leo and Cancer lagna. Reported time gives leo> lagna.> I have used Krishna Ji's Aynamsa and Varhamihra Astakvarga> Imprtant events:> marriage in march 90> abroad in nov,dec 90> daughter 92> son 96> govt job-1998> > With regards,> Jagmeet> Natal Chart> > December 20, 1969> Time: 21:40:40> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Longitude: 74 E 53' 00"> Latitude: 31 N 35' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Year: Saumya> Lunar Month: Margasira> Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.47% left)> Weekday: Saturday> Nakshatra: Krittika (69.69% left)> Yoga: Siddha> Karana: Kaulava> Hora Lord: Jupiter> > Sunrise: 7:26:01> Sunset: 17:29:56> Janma Ghatis: 35.6105> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak> > Lagna 29 Cn 34' 35.29" Aasresha 4 Cn Pi -> Sun 5 Sg 12' 17.26" Moola 2 Sg Ta GK> Moon 0 Ta 42' 28.38" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK> Mars 10 Aq 22' 20.58" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK> Mercury 23 Sg 11' 51.83" Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK> Jupiter 7 Li 14' 04.50" Swathi 1 Li Sg PK> Venus 26 Sc 47' 42.73" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK> Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.70" Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK> Rahu 22 Aq 27' 58.62" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK> Ketu 22 Le 27' 58.62" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -> Bhava Lagna 8 Cn 15' 48.37" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -> Hora Lagna 11 Aq 55' 34.58" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp -> Ghati Lagna 22 Sc 54' 53.21" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -> Vighati Lagna 17 Li 51' 26.34" Swathi 4 Li Pi -> Sree Lagna 18 Sc 41' 21.59" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -> Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 17.26" Bharani 2 Ar Vi -> Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 42.74" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li -> Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 42.74" Hastha 1 Vi Ar -> Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 17.26" Swathi 4 Li Pi -> Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 17.26" Anuradha 1 Sc Le -> Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23" Swathi 1 Li Sg -> Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -> Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70" Aardra 4 Ge Pi -> Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -> Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -> Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84" Makha 4 Le Cn -> Varnada Lagna 18 Cp 29' 50.13" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -> V2 18 Sc 29' 50.13" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -> V3 18 Vi 29' 50.13" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -> V4 18 Cn 29' 50.13" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -> V5 18 Ta 29' 50.13" Rohini 3 Ta Ge -> V6 18 Pi 29' 50.13" Revathi 1 Pi Sg -> V7 18 Cp 29' 50.13" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -> V8 18 Sc 29' 50.13" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -> V9 18 Vi 29' 50.13" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -> V10 18 Cn 29' 50.13" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -> V11 18 Ta 29' 50.13" Rohini 3 Ta Ge -> > Rasi > +--------------+> | \ / \ / |> | \ Ket / \ / |> | \ / 32 \ 21 / |> | \ 31 / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | 34 x Asc x Moo |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ 30 |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 4 / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | 36 Jup x SatR |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ 27 / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Ven x x |> | / \ 18 / \ |> | 22 / \ / \ 28 |> | / 24 \ / \ |> | / Sun \ / Mar \ |> | / Mer \ / Rah 29 \ |> +--------------+> > Navamsa > +--------------+> | \ / \ / |> | \ Rah / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Ven \ / |> | \ / \ / HL |> |Sun x Asc x Mar Moo |> | / \ / \ GL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / AL \ 12 / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | SatR x Jup |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |Glk x x Mnd |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / Mer \ |> | / \ / Ket \ |> +--------------+> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > Sun Sun 1968-02-25 Moo 1968-06-14 Mar 1968-12-13 > Rah 1969-04-20 Jup 1970-03-15 Sat 1971-01-01 > Mer 1971-12-14 Ket 1972-10-20 Ven 1973-02-24 > Moo Moo 1974-02-25 Mar 1974-12-26 Rah 1975-07-27 > Jup 1977-01-25 Sat 1978-05-27 Mer 1979-12-26 > Ket 1981-05-27 Ven 1981-12-26 Sun 1983-08-26 > Mar Mar 1984-02-25 Rah 1984-07-23 Jup 1985-08-11 > Sat 1986-07-18 Mer 1987-08-26 Ket 1988-08-23 > Ven 1989-01-19 Sun 1990-03-21 Moo 1990-07-27 > Rah Rah 1991-02-25 Jup 1993-11-07 Sat 1996-04-02 > Mer 1999-02-06 Ket 2001-08-26 Ven 2002-09-13 > Sun 2005-09-13 Moo 2006-08-08 Mar 2008-02-07 > Jup Jup 2009-02-24 Sat 2011-04-14 Mer 2013-10-26 > Ket 2016-01-31 Ven 2017-01-06 Sun 2019-09-07 > Moo 2020-06-26 Mar 2021-10-26 Rah 2022-10-01 > Sat Sat 2025-02-24 Mer 2028-02-28 Ket 2030-11-07 > Ven 2031-12-17 Sun 2035-02-15 Moo 2036-01-28 > Mar 2037-08-29 Rah 2038-10-07 Jup 2041-08-13 > Mer Mer 2044-02-25 Ket 2046-07-23 Ven 2047-07-20 > Sun 2050-05-20 Moo 2051-03-27 Mar 2052-08-25 > Rah 2053-08-22 Jup 2056-03-11 Sat 2058-06-17 > Ket Ket 2061-02-24 Ven 2061-07-23 Sun 2062-09-22 > Moo 2063-01-28 Mar 2063-08-29 Rah 2064-01-25 > Jup 2065-02-12 Sat 2066-01-18 Mer 2067-02-27 > Ven Ven 2068-02-24 Sun 2071-06-26 Moo 2072-06-25 > Mar 2074-02-24 Rah 2075-04-26 Jup 2078-04-26 > Sat 2080-12-25 Mer 2084-02-24 Ket 2086-12-25 > > > > Natal Chart> > December 20, 1969> Time: 21:45:40> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Longitude: 74 E 53' 00"> Latitude: 31 N 35' 00"> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Year: Saumya> Lunar Month: Margasira> Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (87.14% left)> Weekday: Saturday> Nakshatra: Krittika (69.36% left)> Yoga: Siddha> Karana: Kaulava> Hora Lord: Jupiter> > Sunrise: 7:26:01> Sunset: 17:29:56> Janma Ghatis: 35.8188> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak> > Lagna 0 Le 37' 51.34" Makha 1 Le Ar -> Sun 5 Sg 12' 29.98" Moola 2 Sg Ta GK> Moon 0 Ta 45' 04.98" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK> Mars 10 Aq 22' 29.91" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp BK> Mercury 23 Sg 12' 09.42" Poo.Shaa. 3 Sg Li AmK> Jupiter 7 Li 14' 06.48" Swathi 1 Li Sg PK> Venus 26 Sc 47' 58.45" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi AK> Saturn ® 8 Ar 49' 10.38" Aswini 3 Ar Ge MK> Rahu 22 Aq 27' 57.96" Poo.Bhaa. 1 Aq Ar PiK> Ketu 22 Le 27' 57.96" Poo.Pha. 3 Le Li -> Bhava Lagna 9 Cn 30' 48.34" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -> Hora Lagna 14 Aq 25' 34.52" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -> Ghati Lagna 29 Sc 09' 53.07" Jyeshtha 4 Sc Pi -> Vighati Lagna 12 Sc 51' 25.81" Anuradha 3 Sc Li -> Sree Lagna 20 Sc 55' 05.75" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -> Dhooma 18 Ar 32' 29.98" Bharani 2 Ar Vi -> Vyatipata 11 Pi 27' 30.02" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li -> Parivesha 11 Vi 27' 30.02" Hastha 1 Vi Ar -> Indra Chapa 18 Li 32' 29.98" Swathi 4 Li Pi -> Upaketu 5 Sc 12' 29.98" Anuradha 1 Sc Le -> Kaala 9 Li 00' 26.23" Swathi 1 Li Sg -> Mrityu 23 Sc 10' 01.72" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -> Artha Prahara 17 Ge 36' 09.70" Aardra 4 Ge Pi -> Yama Ghantaka 9 Cn 52' 58.30" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi -> Maandi 24 Le 07' 56.44" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -> Gulika 12 Le 55' 58.84" Makha 4 Le Cn -> Varnada Lagna 15 Ge 03' 25.86" Aardra 3 Ge Aq -> V2 15 Le 03' 25.86" Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le -> V3 15 Li 03' 25.86" Swathi 3 Li Aq -> V4 15 Sg 03' 25.86" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -> V5 15 Aq 03' 25.86" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -> V6 15 Ar 03' 25.86" Bharani 1 Ar Le -> V7 15 Ge 03' 25.86" Aardra 3 Ge Aq -> V8 15 Le 03' 25.86" Poo.Pha. 1 Le Le -> V9 15 Li 03' 25.86" Swathi 3 Li Aq -> V10 15 Sg 03' 25.86" Poo.Shaa. 1 Sg Le -> V11 15 Aq 03' 25.86" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq -> > Rasi > +--------------+> | \ / \ / |> | \ 32 / \ 28 / |> | \ / 33 \ / |> | \ / Ket \ / |> |36 \ / \ / |> |Jup x Asc x 27 |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 5 / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | 25 Ven x Moo |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ 29 / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Rah \ / |> | 25 \ / \ / |> |Sun Mer x Mar x SatR|> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 28 / \ 23 |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / 23 \ / 28 \ |> +--------------+> > Navamsa > +--------------+> | \ / \ GL / |> | \ Sun / \ Ven / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Rah \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |SatR x Asc x HL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / AL \ 1 / Mar \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Glk x Moo |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / Ket \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | x Mer x Jup |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / Mnd \ |> | / \ / \ |> +--------------+> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > Sun Sun 1968-02-18 Moo 1968-06-07 Mar 1968-12-06 > Rah 1969-04-13 Jup 1970-03-08 Sat 1970-12-25 > Mer 1971-12-07 Ket 1972-10-12 Ven 1973-02-17 > Moo Moo 1974-02-18 Mar 1974-12-19 Rah 1975-07-20 > Jup 1977-01-18 Sat 1978-05-20 Mer 1979-12-19 > Ket 1981-05-20 Ven 1981-12-19 Sun 1983-08-19 > Mar Mar 1984-02-18 Rah 1984-07-16 Jup 1985-08-04 > Sat 1986-07-10 Mer 1987-08-19 Ket 1988-08-15 > Ven 1989-01-12 Sun 1990-03-14 Moo 1990-07-20 > Rah Rah 1991-02-18 Jup 1993-10-31 Sat 1996-03-25 > Mer 1999-01-30 Ket 2001-08-19 Ven 2002-09-06 > Sun 2005-09-06 Moo 2006-08-01 Mar 2008-01-30 > Jup Jup 2009-02-17 Sat 2011-04-07 Mer 2013-10-18 > Ket 2016-01-24 Ven 2016-12-30 Sun 2019-08-31 > Moo 2020-06-18 Mar 2021-10-18 Rah 2022-09-24 > Sat Sat 2025-02-17 Mer 2028-02-21 Ket 2030-10-31 > Ven 2031-12-10 Sun 2035-02-08 Moo 2036-01-21 > Mar 2037-08-21 Rah 2038-09-30 Jup 2041-08-06 > Mer Mer 2044-02-17 Ket 2046-07-16 Ven 2047-07-13 > Sun 2050-05-13 Moo 2051-03-20 Mar 2052-08-18 > Rah 2053-08-15 Jup 2056-03-04 Sat 2058-06-09 > Ket Ket 2061-02-17 Ven 2061-07-16 Sun 2062-09-15 > Moo 2063-01-21 Mar 2063-08-22 Rah 2064-01-18 > Jup 2065-02-04 Sat 2066-01-11 Mer 2067-02-20 > Ven Ven 2068-02-17 Sun 2071-06-19 Moo 2072-06-18 > Mar 2074-02-17 Rah 2075-04-19 Jup 2078-04-19 > Sat 2080-12-18 Mer 2084-02-17 Ket 2086-12-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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