Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Hello No-name, Júpiter is lord of the 6th from B as the 7th. His aspect on the 7th house spoils it. Note that Mars and Saturn are also aspecting the 7th house. Check their points. Jupiter can be helpful for the 1st, check for which house he becomes lord of D or E for ex. In this system some planets are good for some houses/matters, bad for others. This reflects realities of life nicely. Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- spsharma2 [spsharma] Thursday, May 01, 2003 12:58 AM To: Subject: Jup in Libra For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and 24N40. Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. Sun Leo 13:09 11th house Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House Merc Can 28:46 10th House Jup libra 1:53 1st House Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House Sat Can 10:17 10th House Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup in Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus in the first House. How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and 24N40. Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. Sun Leo 13:09 11th house Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House Merc Can 28:46 10th House Jup libra 1:53 1st House Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House Sat Can 10:17 10th House Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup in Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus in the first House. How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear ? Please out of courtesy sign your name. Generally in most charts you will find Guru with high bindus. Guru has 56 bindus to distribute in its BAV. So it " Generally " has high bindus. Now Guru is strong and in sign of libra is spoilt. Such a Guru cannot for example stop shani from giving delay even if aspecting Shani so it looses its power. Guru in libra is very uncomfortable and its goodness or natural beneficance is curtailed. About Guru in libra this law has been taught to us by Krushnaji and it was given in his Gurus hand written book. Over 45 years of research by Krushnaji himself has also proved this to be true. One more thing, strength to deliver results i..e timing of results and quality of results are 2 different things all together. We should not mix those. Other factors also have to be seen and not just Guru in libra. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " spsharma2 " <spsharma@p...> wrote: > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and 24N40. > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup in > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus in > the first House. > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear ? Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas ayanamsa. Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. Guru is in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is greater than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects moon in rasi. Such a person cannot have a happy married life. Can you state what the facts are ? Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " spsharma2 " <spsharma@p...> wrote: > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and 24N40. > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup in > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus in > the first House. > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Ash, First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It was not intentional. Sorry about that. The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it was a delayed marriage. 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original chart made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri is not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was trying to determine whether some relief is in the future. Regards. -Surendra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear ? > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas ayanamsa. > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. Guru is > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is greater > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects moon in > rasi. > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > Can you state what the facts are ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " spsharma2 " > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and > 24N40. > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup in > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus in > > the first House. > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dear Surendra, Thanks for your feedback. A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun distance also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of marriage but its good to know this fact. I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus and 2 in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be that between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can you verify ? b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For your marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent OR sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having aspect of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over yours. Do this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between these factors. Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were just doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for study purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can verify. Also can you comment if you have children ? Thaking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " spsharma2 " <spsharma@p...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It was not > intentional. Sorry about that. > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it > was a delayed marriage. > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original chart > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri is > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was trying to > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > Regards. > > -Surendra > > , > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear ? > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > ayanamsa. > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > Guru is > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > greater > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > moon in > > rasi. > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , > " spsharma2 " > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > and > > 24N40. > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that Jup > in > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV bindus > in > > > the first House. > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Hello Ash, Thanks for reply. a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas she is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead for a given situation. b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am not very good at it. Am a beginer. -Surendra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Surendra, > > Thanks for your feedback. > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun distance > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of marriage > but its good to know this fact. > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus and 2 > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be that > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can you > verify ? > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For your > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent OR > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having aspect > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over yours. Do > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between these > factors. > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were just > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for study > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can verify. > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > Thaking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " spsharma2 " > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It > was not > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original > chart > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri is > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > trying to > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > Regards. > > > > -Surendra > > > > , > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > Dear ? > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > ayanamsa. > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > Guru is > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > greater > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > moon in > > > rasi. > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > > " spsharma2 " > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > and > > > 24N40. > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that > Jup > > in > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > bindus > > in > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list members, This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for analysis. Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E with 4 bindus. The marriage was delayed upto 37 years. How can we find such delays ? These were my thoughts. 1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on Moon in rasi. 2) Guru is in sign of libra. 2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK Mars ??? (a link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?) 3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru and Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why Marriage was delayed so so long ? 4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where delay is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no zero points in SAV) ? 5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong due to 6th lord ? Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the dates 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23. Lots of questions eh.... lol Cheers !!! Ash , " spsharma2 " <spsharma@p...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > > Thanks for reply. > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas she > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead for > a given situation. > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am not > very good at it. Am a beginer. > > -Surendra > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Surendra, > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun distance > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > marriage > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus and 2 > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be that > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > you > > verify ? > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > your > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent OR > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having aspect > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over yours. > Do > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between these > > factors. > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were just > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > study > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > verify. > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > Thaking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " spsharma2 " > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It > > was not > > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it > > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original > > chart > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri > is > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > trying to > > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > , > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear ? > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > ayanamsa. > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > Guru is > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > greater > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > moon in > > > > rasi. > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " spsharma2 " > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > and > > > > 24N40. > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that > > Jup > > > in > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > bindus > > > in > > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for your analysis. 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01: She went to a boarding school (national scholarship). eucation wise this was a n excellent period. However, being away from her parents was hard. 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19: Ecellent period for education and other affairs alike. 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23: Although bless with a daughter (DOB: 1985/7/14), this was a hard probably the worst period. I had to move to west coast to another job and was able to visit them only every 2 weeks. Around 1988 the illness got hold with the surgery on 1988/5/12. On 1989/1/20 they moved to west coast to join me. The after affects of the illnes were still severe until late 1989. Regards. -Surendra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list > members, > > This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for analysis. > > Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of > house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E with > 4 bindus. > > The marriage was delayed upto 37 years. > > How can we find such delays ? > > These were my thoughts. > > 1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on Moon in > rasi. > 2) Guru is in sign of libra. > 2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK Mars ??? (a > link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?) > 3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru and > Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will > should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why > Marriage was delayed so so long ? > 4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where delay > is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to > shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no > zero points in SAV) ? > 5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive > orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong due > to 6th lord ? > > Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the > dates > > 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01 > 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19 > 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23. > > Lots of questions eh.... lol > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " spsharma2 " > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > > > Thanks for reply. > > > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas > she > > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead > for > > a given situation. > > > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am > not > > very good at it. Am a beginer. > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Surendra, > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun > distance > > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > > marriage > > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus > and 2 > > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be > that > > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > > you > > > verify ? > > > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > > your > > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent > OR > > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having > aspect > > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over > yours. > > Do > > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between > these > > > factors. > > > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were > just > > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > > study > > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > > verify. > > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > > > Thaking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , " spsharma2 " > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. > It > > > was not > > > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as > a > > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way > it > > > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The > original > > > chart > > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be > lahiri > > is > > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > > trying to > > > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > > Dear ? > > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > > ayanamsa. > > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > > Guru is > > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > > greater > > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > > moon in > > > > > rasi. > > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " spsharma2 " > > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > > and > > > > > 24N40. > > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned > that > > > Jup > > > > in > > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > > bindus > > > > in > > > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Dear Ash and friends, Apart from the points mentioned by you, can below too might have an impact in delaying the wedding lock? I am being novice in the system, may be stretching the rules. 1. Low SAV points in 7th house (23/21 points) both in Rasi and Navamsha. 2. Low contribution of BAV points by NK and FK in 7th house. 3. Saturn and Rahu are afflicting the Moon in Rasi and Navamsha. 4. 6th lord Jupiter not only has got more BAV point in 7th house, it is aspecting the house with malefic effect. How ever the 7th house SAV points in both D1 and D9 though low still not less than 20 points. Even none of the planets including NK and FK have got '0' points in the 7th house. NK has got average BAV (4) points in the 7th house in D9. (Sun, Venus and Jupiter are Vargottama in the chart, this is a positive trend in conventional astrology-----I don't know what this indicates in Krushna's method) All these positive planetary combinations acted to give the native marriage though got late. Please comment, Thanks, Rajashri. - ashsam73 Friday, May 02, 2003 3:54 PM Re: Jup in Libra Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list members,This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for analysis.Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E with 4 bindus.The marriage was delayed upto 37 years.How can we find such delays ?These were my thoughts.1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on Moon in rasi.2) Guru is in sign of libra.2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK Mars ??? (a link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?)3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru and Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why Marriage was delayed so so long ?4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where delay is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no zero points in SAV) ?5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong due to 6th lord ?Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the dates1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/012) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/193) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23.Lots of questions eh.... lolCheers !!!Ash , "spsharma2" <spsharma@p...> wrote:> Hello Ash,> > Thanks for reply. > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas she > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead for > a given situation.> > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am not > very good at it. Am a beginer.> > -Surendra> > > > , "ashsam73" > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > Dear Surendra,> > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper.> > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun distance > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > marriage > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus and 2 > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be that > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ?> > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > you > > verify ?> > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > your > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent OR > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having aspect > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over yours. > Do > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between these > > factors.> > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were just > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > study > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > verify.> > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > Thaking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > , "spsharma2" > > <spsharma@p...> wrote:> > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It > > was not > > > intentional. Sorry about that.> > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it > > > was a delayed marriage.> > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original > > chart > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri > is > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct.> > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > trying to > > > determine whether some relief is in the future.> > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > -Surendra> > > > > > , > > > "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > > > Dear ?> > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > ayanamsa.> > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > Guru is > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > greater > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > moon in > > > > rasi.> > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life.> > > > Can you state what the facts are ?> > > > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > "spsharma2" > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote:> > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > and > > > > 24N40.> > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra.> > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house> > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house> > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House> > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House> > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House> > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House> > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House> > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House> > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House> > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that > > Jup > > > in > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > bindus > > > in > > > > > the first House.> > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? 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Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Dear Rajashri, Consider 2 parts. 1) Planet positions 2) Points. Points show us the power of planets to deliver results. More points means more powerful. If you notice in the lesson that Krushnaji has given its to deal with a few points a) Speed of motion of planet b) natural nature of planets c) Karaks d) Natural significators. (eg. Mars for females, Venus for males). Answering your questions based on the above a) First we have see if Karaks are spoilt i.e. venus and 2nd lord. High points in 1st and 7th may not delay results. b) If Karaks are not spoilt AND if delay period is over then if one encounters low points in worksheet then marriage may not furtify in those periods. Exceptions are LOD and LOE if those are not spoilt then they will give results if they have low points in worksheet or also planets in House D or E with > 4 bindus as they are tennents of house D and E and so they will act like the Owner i.e LOD or LOE and infact will be more eager to give result than LOD or LOE. For contribution of low points in SAV by FK and NK... hmm.. I have not looked at it this way.. let me think more about this... I will hold back my comment for it for now... :=) .. Good quesiton... c) Point 3 I think has been answered in lesson 30 by Krushnaji. d) 6th lord is a special case. 6th lord in 7th reduces maritial happiness. Similarly 6th lord in House D or E also reduces the maritial happiness. Just for 6th lord in 6th house we consider reverse bindus. i.e. say if Guru were 6th lord in 6th house and if it had say 7 bindus then we could consider Guru to have (8-7=1 bindu) and then consider aspects. We have not as yet used SAV points in Divisional charts as you have give for 7th house having low poitns in Navamsa. I do not know if we can use it this way in this system although Navamsa has same weightage as Rasi. I also have not seen anyone use HOUSE ASPECT of shani for delay in Navamsa either. For ex. we say that Shani in 5th aspects House A,B,C in rasi so there is delay, however I have not seen Shani placed in 5th house in Navamsa being used the same way either. Yes however we do check for Shani conjoining or aspecting LOA, LOB or LOC in Navamsa. This is what I have observed so far. Rajashri, interesting thing you have noted here. You said that Guru, Sun and Venus are vargottama here. We know that planet becomes samdharmi to its navamsa depositer. When a planet becomes samdharmi then it shows its own results and also its samdharmis results or flavours during transits. Here when a planet becomes Vargottama then it does not become samdharmi to any other planet as its navamsa depositer is itself. So it will show results of itself which is based on its placement and its points in worksheet more strongly. Think about it. I think if you think deeper into Samdharmi and understand each law I think you will conver a lot of what you called it traditional vedic astrology. This system is not different than traidional astrology.. things are just view differently. Whats called Vargottama and a special name is given, we cover that in points and samdharmi. Vargottama means stronger to give results. If that planet indicates malefic results guess what will Vargottama placement do ???? Similarly if a planet is not Samdharmi to any other planet (all types) and if its getting low points for all houses in worksheet guess how is it going to act ??? I think going in deeper in understanding all the principles of planet becoming samdharmi will hope that clears up this phenemon. Hope that helps, Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash and friends, > > > Apart from the points mentioned by you, can below too might have an impact in delaying the wedding lock? > > I am being novice in the system, may be stretching the rules. > > 1. Low SAV points in 7th house (23/21 points) both in Rasi and Navamsha. > > 2. Low contribution of BAV points by NK and FK in 7th house. > > 3. Saturn and Rahu are afflicting the Moon in Rasi and Navamsha. > > 4. 6th lord Jupiter not only has got more BAV point in 7th house, it is aspecting the house with malefic effect. > > > How ever the 7th house SAV points in both D1 and D9 though low still not less than 20 points. Even none of the planets including NK and FK have got '0' points in the 7th house. NK has got average BAV (4) points in the 7th house in D9. (Sun, Venus and Jupiter are Vargottama in the chart, this is a positive trend in conventional astrology-----I don't know what this indicates in Krushna's method) All these positive planetary combinations acted to give the native marriage though got late. > > Please comment, > > Thanks, > > Rajashri. > > - > ashsam73 > > Friday, May 02, 2003 3:54 PM > Re: Jup in Libra > > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list > members, > > This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for analysis. > > Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of > house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E with > 4 bindus. > > The marriage was delayed upto 37 years. > > How can we find such delays ? > > These were my thoughts. > > 1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on Moon in > rasi. > 2) Guru is in sign of libra. > 2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK Mars ??? (a > link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?) > 3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru and > Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will > should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why > Marriage was delayed so so long ? > 4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where delay > is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to > shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no > zero points in SAV) ? > 5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive > orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong due > to 6th lord ? > > Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the > dates > > 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01 > 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19 > 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23. > > Lots of questions eh.... lol > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " spsharma2 " > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > > > Thanks for reply. > > > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas > she > > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead > for > > a given situation. > > > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am > not > > very good at it. Am a beginer. > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Surendra, > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun > distance > > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > > marriage > > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus > and 2 > > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be > that > > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > > you > > > verify ? > > > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > > your > > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent > OR > > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having > aspect > > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over > yours. > > Do > > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between > these > > > factors. > > > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were > just > > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > > study > > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > > verify. > > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > > > Thaking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , " spsharma2 " > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. > It > > > was not > > > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as > a > > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way > it > > > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The > original > > > chart > > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be > lahiri > > is > > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > > trying to > > > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > > Dear ? > > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > > ayanamsa. > > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > > Guru is > > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > > greater > > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > > moon in > > > > > rasi. > > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " spsharma2 " > > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > > and > > > > > 24N40. > > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned > that > > > Jup > > > > in > > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > > bindus > > > > in > > > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for your ever dependable help and explanation. You wrote, d) 6th lord is a special case. 6th lord in 7th reduces maritial happiness. Similarly 6th lord in House D or E also reduces the maritial happiness. Just for 6th lord in 6th house we consider reverse bindus. i.e. say if Guru were 6th lord in 6th house and if it had say 7 bindus then we could consider Guru to have (8-7=1 bindu) and then consider aspects. Can you please tell me, what would be the consideration, if such 6th lord is placed in the other significance houses like, A (2nd House) and C (11th house)? Whether, when 6th lord gets posited in any of the signification house or affects houses and the Lords of A,B,C,D and E, should we consider that, lesser the points he contribute more better it would be? Please tell me whether in this system 8th lord (from Ascendant) considered as malefic for general matters as being done in conventional system? Thanks, Rajashri. - ashsam73 Monday, May 05, 2003 3:38 PM Re: Jup in Libra Dear Rajashri,Consider 2 parts.1) Planet positions2) Points.Points show us the power of planets to deliver results. More points means more powerful.If you notice in the lesson that Krushnaji has given its to deal with a few points a) Speed of motion of planet b) natural nature of planetsc) Karaksd) Natural significators. (eg. Mars for females, Venus for males).Answering your questions based on the abovea) First we have see if Karaks are spoilt i.e. venus and 2nd lord. High points in 1st and 7th may not delay results. b) If Karaks are not spoilt AND if delay period is over then if one encounters low points in worksheet then marriage may not furtify in those periods. Exceptions are LOD and LOE if those are not spoilt then they will give results if they have low points in worksheet or also planets in House D or E with > 4 bindus as they are tennents of house D and E and so they will act like the Owner i.e LOD or LOE and infact will be more eager to give result than LOD or LOE.For contribution of low points in SAV by FK and NK... hmm.. I have not looked at it this way.. let me think more about this... I will hold back my comment for it for now... :=) .. Good quesiton...c) Point 3 I think has been answered in lesson 30 by Krushnaji.d) 6th lord is a special case. 6th lord in 7th reduces maritial happiness. Similarly 6th lord in House D or E also reduces the maritial happiness. Just for 6th lord in 6th house we consider reverse bindus. i.e. say if Guru were 6th lord in 6th house and if it had say 7 bindus then we could consider Guru to have (8-7=1 bindu) and then consider aspects. We have not as yet used SAV points in Divisional charts as you have give for 7th house having low poitns in Navamsa. I do not know if we can use it this way in this system although Navamsa has same weightage as Rasi. I also have not seen anyone use HOUSE ASPECT of shani for delay in Navamsa either. For ex. we say that Shani in 5th aspects House A,B,C in rasi so there is delay, however I have not seen Shani placed in 5th house in Navamsa being used the same way either. Yes however we do check for Shani conjoining or aspecting LOA, LOB or LOC in Navamsa. This is what I have observed so far.Rajashri, interesting thing you have noted here. You said that Guru, Sun and Venus are vargottama here. We know that planet becomes samdharmi to its navamsa depositer. When a planet becomes samdharmi then it shows its own results and also its samdharmis results or flavours during transits.Here when a planet becomes Vargottama then it does not become samdharmi to any other planet as its navamsa depositer is itself. So it will show results of itself which is based on its placement and its points in worksheet more strongly. Think about it. I think if you think deeper into Samdharmi and understand each law I think you will conver a lot of what you called it traditional vedic astrology. This system is not different than traidional astrology.. things are just view differently. Whats called Vargottama and a special name is given, we cover that in points and samdharmi.Vargottama means stronger to give results. If that planet indicates malefic results guess what will Vargottama placement do ????Similarly if a planet is not Samdharmi to any other planet (all types) and if its getting low points for all houses in worksheet guess how is it going to act ???I think going in deeper in understanding all the principles of planet becoming samdharmi will hope that clears up this phenemon.Hope that helps,Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , "Rajashri Naik" <rajaloli@h...> wrote:> Dear Ash and friends,> > > Apart from the points mentioned by you, can below too might have an impact in delaying the wedding lock?> > I am being novice in the system, may be stretching the rules.> > 1. Low SAV points in 7th house (23/21 points) both in Rasi and Navamsha.> > 2. Low contribution of BAV points by NK and FK in 7th house.> > 3. Saturn and Rahu are afflicting the Moon in Rasi and Navamsha.> > 4. 6th lord Jupiter not only has got more BAV point in 7th house, it is aspecting the house with malefic effect.> > > How ever the 7th house SAV points in both D1 and D9 though low still not less than 20 points. Even none of the planets including NK and FK have got '0' points in the 7th house. NK has got average BAV (4) points in the 7th house in D9. (Sun, Venus and Jupiter are Vargottama in the chart, this is a positive trend in conventional astrology-----I don't know what this indicates in Krushna's method) All these positive planetary combinations acted to give the native marriage though got late.> > Please comment,> > Thanks,> > Rajashri.> > - > ashsam73 > > Friday, May 02, 2003 3:54 PM> Re: Jup in Libra> > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list > members,> > This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for analysis.> > Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of > house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E with > 4 bindus.> > The marriage was delayed upto 37 years.> > How can we find such delays ?> > These were my thoughts.> > 1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on Moon in > rasi.> 2) Guru is in sign of libra.> 2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK Mars ??? (a > link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?)> 3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru and > Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will > should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why > Marriage was delayed so so long ?> 4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where delay > is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to > shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no > zero points in SAV) ?> 5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive > orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong due > to 6th lord ?> > Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the > dates> > 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01> 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19> 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23.> > Lots of questions eh.... lol> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > , "spsharma2" > <spsharma@p...> wrote:> > Hello Ash,> > > > Thanks for reply. > > > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas > she > > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead > for > > a given situation.> > > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am > not > > very good at it. Am a beginer.> > > > -Surendra> > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > > Dear Surendra,> > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper.> > > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun > distance > > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > > marriage > > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus > and 2 > > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be > that > > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ?> > > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > > you > > > verify ?> > > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > > your > > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent > OR > > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having > aspect > > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over > yours. > > Do > > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between > these > > > factors.> > > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were > just > > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > > study > > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > > verify.> > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > > > Thaking you,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > , "spsharma2" > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. > It > > > was not > > > > intentional. Sorry about that.> > > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as > a > > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way > it > > > > was a delayed marriage.> > > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The > original > > > chart > > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be > lahiri > > is > > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct.> > > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > > trying to > > > > determine whether some relief is in the future.> > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > -Surendra> > > > > > > > , > > > > "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > > > > Dear ?> > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > > ayanamsa.> > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > > Guru is > > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > > greater > > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > > moon in > > > > > rasi.> > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life.> > > > > Can you state what the facts are ?> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > "spsharma2" > > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote:> > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > > and > > > > > 24N40.> > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra.> > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house> > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house> > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House> > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House> > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House> > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House> > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House> > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House> > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House> > > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned > that > > > Jup > > > > in > > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > > bindus > > > > in > > > > > > the first House.> > > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ?> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Rajashri, 6th lord is Malefic. More points means more malefic for the house it aspects. Only Sun and Moon will not act like 6th lord. In 2nd house it spoils Karak sthan and in 11th it may create problems with elders or income etc. It also afflicts the house it aspects so during the sub of 6th lord. Guru being 6th lord is worst for a chart. For other planets there are chances that the problems that may happen during sub of 6th lord may be temporary but in Gurus's antra when he is 6th lord it may be permenenant. Look in the archives this discussion was done in great detail regarding 6th lord between Sanjay, Maragarita, Peter and Krushnaji and others if I have missed their names I appologise. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your ever dependable help and explanation. > > You wrote, > > d) 6th lord is a special case. 6th lord in 7th reduces maritial > happiness. Similarly 6th lord in House D or E also reduces the > maritial happiness. Just for 6th lord in 6th house we consider > reverse bindus. i.e. say if Guru were 6th lord in 6th house and if > it had say 7 bindus then we could consider Guru to have (8-7=1 > bindu) and then consider aspects. > > Can you please tell me, what would be the consideration, if such 6th lord is placed in the other significance houses like, A (2nd House) and C (11th house)? > > Whether, when 6th lord gets posited in any of the signification house or affects houses and the Lords of A,B,C,D and E, should we consider that, lesser the points he contribute more better it would be? > > Please tell me whether in this system 8th lord (from Ascendant) considered as malefic for general matters as being done in conventional system? > > Thanks, > > Rajashri. > - > ashsam73 > > Monday, May 05, 2003 3:38 PM > Re: Jup in Libra > > > Dear Rajashri, > > Consider 2 parts. > > 1) Planet positions > 2) Points. > > Points show us the power of planets to deliver results. More points > means more powerful. > > If you notice in the lesson that Krushnaji has given its to deal > with a few points > > a) Speed of motion of planet > b) natural nature of planets > c) Karaks > d) Natural significators. (eg. Mars for females, Venus for males). > > Answering your questions based on the above > > a) First we have see if Karaks are spoilt i.e. venus and 2nd lord. > High points in 1st and 7th may not delay results. > > b) If Karaks are not spoilt AND if delay period is over then if one > encounters low points in worksheet then marriage may not furtify in > those periods. Exceptions are LOD and LOE if those are not spoilt > then they will give results if they have low points in worksheet or > also planets in House D or E with > 4 bindus as they are tennents of > house D and E and so they will act like the Owner i.e LOD or LOE and > infact will be more eager to give result than LOD or LOE. > > For contribution of low points in SAV by FK and NK... hmm.. I have > not looked at it this way.. let me think more about this... I will > hold back my comment for it for now... :=) .. Good quesiton... > > c) Point 3 I think has been answered in lesson 30 by Krushnaji. > > d) 6th lord is a special case. 6th lord in 7th reduces maritial > happiness. Similarly 6th lord in House D or E also reduces the > maritial happiness. Just for 6th lord in 6th house we consider > reverse bindus. i.e. say if Guru were 6th lord in 6th house and if > it had say 7 bindus then we could consider Guru to have (8-7=1 > bindu) and then consider aspects. > > > We have not as yet used SAV points in Divisional charts as you have > give for 7th house having low poitns in Navamsa. I do not know if > we can use it this way in this system although Navamsa has same > weightage as Rasi. I also have not seen anyone use HOUSE ASPECT of > shani for delay in Navamsa either. For ex. we say that Shani in > 5th aspects House A,B,C in rasi so there is delay, however I have > not seen Shani placed in 5th house in Navamsa being used the same > way either. Yes however we do check for Shani conjoining or > aspecting LOA, LOB or LOC in Navamsa. > This is what I have observed so far. > > Rajashri, interesting thing you have noted here. You said that > Guru, Sun and Venus are vargottama here. We know that planet > becomes samdharmi to its navamsa depositer. When a planet becomes > samdharmi then it shows its own results and also its samdharmis > results or flavours during transits. > Here when a planet becomes Vargottama then it does not become > samdharmi to any other planet as its navamsa depositer is itself. > So it will show results of itself which is based on its placement > and its points in worksheet more strongly. Think about it. I think > if you think deeper into Samdharmi and understand each law I think > you will conver a lot of what you called it traditional vedic > astrology. This system is not different than traidional astrology.. > things are just view differently. Whats called Vargottama and a > special name is given, we cover that in points and samdharmi. > > Vargottama means stronger to give results. If that planet indicates > malefic results guess what will Vargottama placement do ???? > > Similarly if a planet is not Samdharmi to any other planet (all > types) and if its getting low points for all houses in worksheet > guess how is it going to act ??? > > I think going in deeper in understanding all the principles of > planet becoming samdharmi will hope that clears up this phenemon. > > Hope that helps, > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Rajashri Naik " > <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > > Dear Ash and friends, > > > > > > Apart from the points mentioned by you, can below too might have > an impact in delaying the wedding lock? > > > > I am being novice in the system, may be stretching the rules. > > > > 1. Low SAV points in 7th house (23/21 points) both in Rasi and > Navamsha. > > > > 2. Low contribution of BAV points by NK and FK in 7th house. > > > > 3. Saturn and Rahu are afflicting the Moon in Rasi and Navamsha. > > > > 4. 6th lord Jupiter not only has got more BAV point in 7th house, > it is aspecting the house with malefic effect. > > > > > > How ever the 7th house SAV points in both D1 and D9 though low > still not less than 20 points. Even none of the planets including NK > and FK have got '0' points in the 7th house. NK has got average BAV > (4) points in the 7th house in D9. (Sun, Venus and Jupiter are > Vargottama in the chart, this is a positive trend in conventional > astrology-----I don't know what this indicates in Krushna's method) > All these positive planetary combinations acted to give the native > marriage though got late. > > > > Please comment, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rajashri. > > > > - > > ashsam73 > > > > Friday, May 02, 2003 3:54 PM > > Re: Jup in Libra > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter, Rajashri, Surendra and list > > members, > > > > This is an interesting chart that Surendra has given for > analysis. > > > > Marriage happened during antra of Mars. Mars is FK and lord of > > house B i.e. 7th house. Its placed in 12th house i.e. House E > with > > 4 bindus. > > > > The marriage was delayed upto 37 years. > > > > How can we find such delays ? > > > > These were my thoughts. > > > > 1) Venus to Sun distance > 43 degress with shani's aspect on > Moon in > > rasi. > > 2) Guru is in sign of libra. > > 2) Venus here is in the NK and is in the NAKSHATRA of FK > Mars ??? (a > > link between NK and FK ? Does it mean something ?) > > 3) Shani has got points from 6th lord and is samdharmi to Guru > and > > Venus i.e. 4:10 so highest level of samdharmiship. Shani will > > should have given adverse effects on marriage ??? Is that why > > Marriage was delayed so so long ? > > 4) How do we come to identifying for such special cases where > delay > > is beyond 32 years i.e. over and above full delay caused due to > > shani and also zero points in SAV (Here in this case there is no > > zero points in SAV) ? > > 5) Surendra's wife got health problems regarding reproductive > > orgrans in the antra of Shani ? Is this because shani is strong > due > > to 6th lord ? > > > > Surendra, can u confirm how your wifes periods were here are the > > dates > > > > 1) Rahu/Shani - 1957/06/26 thru 1960/05/01 > > 2) Jupiter/Shani - 1972/07/09 thru 1975/01/19 > > 3) Shani/Shani - 1986/05/20 thru 1989/05/23. > > > > Lots of questions eh.... lol > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " spsharma2 " > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > Thanks for reply. > > > > > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > > > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are > areas > > she > > > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the > lead > > for > > > a given situation. > > > > > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I > am > > not > > > very good at it. Am a beginer. > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Surendra, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > > > > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun > > distance > > > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > > > marriage > > > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana > and > > > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in > gurus > > and 2 > > > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would > be > > that > > > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > > > > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 > points. > > > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? > can > > > you > > > > verify ? > > > > > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. > For > > > your > > > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over > ascendent > > OR > > > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having > > aspect > > > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over > > yours. > > > Do > > > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between > > these > > > > factors. > > > > > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were > > just > > > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave > for > > > study > > > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and > can > > > verify. > > > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > > > > > Thaking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " spsharma2 " > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the > post. > > It > > > > was not > > > > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life > is > > > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening > illness > > > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs > and as > > a > > > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical > problems. > > > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the > way > > it > > > > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The > > original > > > > chart > > > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be > > lahiri > > > is > > > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I > was > > > > trying to > > > > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ? > > > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > > > ayanamsa. > > > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and > Venus. > > > > > Guru is > > > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus > distance is > > > > > greater > > > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani > aspects > > > > > moon in > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " spsharma2 " > > > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at > 72E45 > > > > > and > > > > > > 24N40. > > > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned > > that > > > > Jup > > > > > in > > > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 > AV > > > > bindus > > > > > in > > > > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Rajashri, You Asked > Please tell me whether in this system 8th lord (from Ascendant) > considered as malefic for general matters as being done in > conventional system? Regarding 8th lord from Ascendent. Everything is quite well laid out if you study A,B,C and D,E and in that order. A = Karak and controls and authorises B. Result of B is C. D and E create opportunities and are eager to let event B happen. They work through their lord. So unless House A does not authorise, Event B cannot happen. Think about this part. For Ascendent i.e. B = 1, A becomes 8th house. 8th house controls the overall well being of 1st house as its the Karak this is when you consider House A as 8th. For House B as 8th from that we time death so ending of things. So it depends on the way you look at it. Death generally happens in the antra of 1st,5th i.e. LOD or LOE for 8th house or planets in Lagna or 5th house with > 4 bindus. Also death can happen in the highest significator for 8th house if its not LOD or LOE or in House D or E with greater than 4 bindus and not aspecting A,B or C i.e. 8th, 12th or 3rd house. For natural death Mahadasha is linked to 3rd house or its samdharmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Surendra and list members, Based on the new lesson this chart becomes much more clearer regarding delay. Birth Details : Female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 and 24N40. Here now we can see the following points based on latest lesson given i.e. Lesson No. 30. 1) Guru is with Venus 2) Guru is in libra 3) Saturn and Guru both are aspecting 7th house so delay. 4) Mars and Moon are together and Shani is aspecting the same. 5) Moon being in 12th house auguments this result. 6) Mars is aspected by Shani 7) Rahu is in 8th house again aspectin 7th house and 7th lord Mars 8) Mars and Rahu both are afflicting 7th house here BUT Mars has 4 bindus and is not malefic its neutral. So this chart is a perfect chart to study for such delay in marriage. Since denyal of marriage laws did not fit so marriage did take place. Thaking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " spsharma2 " <spsharma@p...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > > Thanks for reply. > > a) The marriage date is May 12, 1983. About the dominating > personality: We have a give and take situation. There are areas she > is more apt than me and vise versa. So, one of us takes the lead for > a given situation. > > b) I will compare the charts, but that will take some time. I am not > very good at it. Am a beginer. > > -Surendra > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Surendra, > > > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > > A few things I want to check before I dwelve deeper. > > > > a) You say your marriage life is excellent. Venus to Sun distance > > also delays marriage. I still have not gone into timing of > marriage > > but its good to know this fact. > > > > I did check her lagna, sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and > > trimsamsa. 2 spots in sign of mercury, 2 in suns, 2 in gurus and 2 > > in venus. I am not to sure what this means. 4 signs would be that > > between guru and sun that could make the person more caring ? > > > > Now her lagna has 26 points and 7th from that has 23 points. > > Between the 2 of you is your wife more dominating that you ? can > you > > verify ? > > > > b) Take your and your wifes chart and check the following. For > your > > marriage to last your and your wifes chart must have strong > > connection wrt mars, venus, rahu and shani. > > > > Overlap your and your wifes chart do it ascendent over ascendent OR > > sign over sign. For each check your if your Venus is having aspect > > of her Mars and or shani and rahu and similarly hers over yours. > Do > > this for Mars, Venus, Rahu and Shani of both charts. > > > > I am quite sure that you will find a stong relation between these > > factors. > > > > Do let the group know as Rajashri, Margarita and myself were just > > doing compatibility analysis of a chart that Rajashri gave for > study > > purposes. With your case atleast we know the results and can > verify. > > Also can you comment if you have children ? > > > > Thaking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " spsharma2 " > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > First of all, I did not realize that I did not sign the post. It > > was not > > > intentional. Sorry about that. > > > > > > The chart belongs to my wife. I would say our married life is > > > excellent. However, she had a serious life threatening illness > > > (May 1988-Oct. 1988) related to the reproductive organs and as a > > > consquence of that illness there are some physical problems. > > > But they do not have any affect on the happiness. By the way it > > > was a delayed marriage. > > > > > > 1. Coming back to Jup, since it in 1st house does not that > > > provide some protection (Yoga: Jup in the kendra) ? > > > > > > 2. I used Lahiri, that is why Ve is going to 12th. The original > > chart > > > made by a Jyotishi in India had Ve in the 1st, so may be lahiri > is > > > not right ayanamsa, since his predictions were correct. > > > > > > 3. The after effects of that illnes still continue and I was > > trying to > > > determine whether some relief is in the future. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > -Surendra > > > > > > , > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear ? > > > > Check the ayanamsa, Venus goes into Libra with Krushnas > > > ayanamsa. > > > > Shani has become very powerful due to 6th lord and Venus. > > > Guru is > > > > in libra in both rasi and navamsa. Sun to venus distance is > > > greater > > > > than 43 degrees in this case its 45 degrees. Shani aspects > > > moon in > > > > rasi. > > > > Such a person cannot have a happy married life. > > > > Can you state what the facts are ? > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " spsharma2 " > > > > <spsharma@p...> wrote: > > > > > For a female born on 8/30/1946, 11:59 AM in India at 72E45 > > > and > > > > 24N40. > > > > > Jup is in libra with 7 bindus in Chitra. > > > > > Sun Leo 13:09 11th house > > > > > Moon Virgo 14:43 12th house > > > > > Mars Virgo 20:04 12th House > > > > > Merc Can 28:46 10th House > > > > > Jup libra 1:53 1st House > > > > > Venus Virgo 29:08 12th House > > > > > Sat Can 10:17 10th House > > > > > Rahu Taurus 23:35 8th House > > > > > Ketu Scorpio 23:35 2nd House > > > > > > > > > > I am a little confused. In the lessons it is mentioned that > > Jup > > > in > > > > > Libra loses all its powers. But in this case it has 7 AV > > bindus > > > in > > > > > the first House. > > > > > > > > > > How one should interpret it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks a lot for the clarifications on 6th lord and 8th lord. But some how again I failed to convey what I was trying to........ I wanted to ask, 8th lord from Ascendant in traditional astrology taken as very bad. Say if 4th lord and Moon are placed along with 8th lord or in 8th house, it would be expected that, native would not derive much Motherly comforts and pleasures. Here the 8th lord considered as culprit. Not only for longevity but for every aspect. I am requesting clarification on this. Thanks, Rajashri. - ashsam73 Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:40 PM Re: Jup in Libra Dear Rajashri,You Asked> Please tell me whether in this system 8th lord (from Ascendant)> considered as malefic for general matters as being done in > conventional system?Regarding 8th lord from Ascendent. Everything is quite well laid out if you study A,B,C and D,E and in that order. A = Karak and controls and authorises B. Result of B is C. D and E create opportunities and are eager to let event B happen. They work through their lord.So unless House A does not authorise, Event B cannot happen. Think about this part.For Ascendent i.e. B = 1, A becomes 8th house.8th house controls the overall well being of 1st house as its the Karak this is when you consider House A as 8th.For House B as 8th from that we time death so ending of things.So it depends on the way you look at it. Death generally happens in the antra of 1st,5th i.e. LOD or LOE for 8th house or planets in Lagna or 5th house with > 4 bindus. Also death can happen in the highest significator for 8th house if its not LOD or LOE or in House D or E with greater than 4 bindus and not aspecting A,B or C i.e. 8th, 12th or 3rd house. For natural death Mahadasha is linked to 3rd house or its samdharmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Dear Rajashri, In this system only 6th lord is treated as extreme malefic. In traditional vedic astrology as you call it and let me re-iterate this is system is a part and parcel of that group, 8th lord is not always bad actually its a matter of opinion or view point. 8th lord is considered bad for LAGNA or health or death if death is considered as bad. In this system 3rd house is considered for mother and not 4th just a slight correction. We only have special considerations for 6th lord in this system. We do consider 12th lord from House B also by not considering points in the worksheet. That is why the last column has adjustment for 12th from B. Infact when the antra for the lord of 8th is running and if its a female chart and during that time there may be conception. Hope that answers your question. 8th house is the Karak of things and 8th also indicates end of things i.e when 8th from a house is considerd as B. 5th is children and 12th is the karak for children. When 12th is taken as B then it can mean end of children or death of children. Now is that good or bad ? Matter of opinion ? Thaking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajashri Naik " <rajaloli@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks a lot for the clarifications on 6th lord and 8th lord. > > But some how again I failed to convey what I was trying to........ > > I wanted to ask, 8th lord from Ascendant in traditional astrology taken as very bad. Say if 4th lord and Moon are placed along with 8th lord or in 8th house, it would be expected that, native would not derive much Motherly comforts and pleasures. Here the 8th lord considered as culprit. Not only for longevity but for every aspect. > > I am requesting clarification on this. > > Thanks, > > Rajashri. > - > ashsam73 > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:40 PM > Re: Jup in Libra > > > Dear Rajashri, > > You Asked > > > Please tell me whether in this system 8th lord (from Ascendant) > > considered as malefic for general matters as being done in > > conventional system? > > > Regarding 8th lord from Ascendent. > > Everything is quite well laid out if you study A,B,C and D,E and in > that order. > > A = Karak and controls and authorises B. Result of B is C. D and E > create opportunities and are eager to let event B happen. They work > through their lord. > > So unless House A does not authorise, Event B cannot happen. Think > about this part. > > For Ascendent i.e. B = 1, A becomes 8th house. > > 8th house controls the overall well being of 1st house as its the > Karak this is when you consider House A as 8th. > > For House B as 8th from that we time death so ending of things. > > So it depends on the way you look at it. Death generally happens in > the antra of 1st,5th i.e. LOD or LOE for 8th house or planets in > Lagna or 5th house with > 4 bindus. Also death can happen in the > highest significator for 8th house if its not LOD or LOE or in House > D or E with greater than 4 bindus and not aspecting A,B or C i.e. > 8th, 12th or 3rd house. For natural death Mahadasha is linked to > 3rd house or its samdharmi. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Dear Krushna, Ash and listmembers, the lady's chart illustrates the new rules given by Krushna. Ash listed the different points. We can notice that Venus is more than 43 degrees from the Sun in this chart and is also in the same navamsa as Saturn. Maybe it could also be a factor of delay besides the other points regarding the new lesson? I would like to ask for clarification about one point : is Saturn (or Mars) a cause of delay when it is aspecting the 7th house and having low points where it is? Or should it have high points (so that its aspect has low points). For example, in this chart, Saturn has got 3 points where it is. So its aspect should be taken as benefic. Does its aspect on 7th house and Mars still make it a cause of delay (because of the nature of Saturn which is a slow moving planet)? Best regards Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Dear Krushnaji and Philippe, Great to hear from you, Good point.. I did miss the fact that Venus and sun distance was greater than 45 degrees and in India with its norms and customs could mean delay. Yes I too have the question regarding dristi by shani and mars part wrt delay. Cheers !!! Ash , " philippe bonin " <philippe.bonin@w...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, Ash and listmembers, > > the lady's chart illustrates the new rules given by Krushna. Ash listed > the different points. We can notice that Venus is more than 43 degrees from > the Sun in this chart and is also in the same navamsa as Saturn. Maybe it > could also be a factor of delay besides the other points regarding the new > lesson? > I would like to ask for clarification about one point : is Saturn (or Mars) > a cause of delay when it is aspecting the 7th house and having low points > where it is? Or should it have high points (so that its aspect has low > points). > For example, in this chart, Saturn has got 3 points where it is. So its > aspect should be taken as benefic. Does its aspect on 7th house and Mars > still make it a cause of delay (because of the nature of Saturn which is a > slow moving planet)? > > Best regards > Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Dear Rajashri and list members, You said : > > But some how again I failed to convey what I was trying to........ > Maybe its the fact that I am reading these emails in a rush so am missing out on the essence of emails and some important points. Your mails are well explained it maybe due to the fact that I want to answer all questions but not having enough time.. somehow the stars in my chart have made me very busy suddenly... but I try my best... I hope in a couple of months I will have more time once I am back home in Toronto... Till then pardon my multiple mails on same topic sometimes upon re- reading the mails I come across another question that I may have missed .. so I answer it again... Please ask again if I have missed some points and I shall try to answer. Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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