Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Hello, Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws for marriage don’t work in a western context. But this doesn’t mean that they do not work in a more traditional frame. The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and Moon is not relevant in western culture either. This is probably because people have to accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they like. I think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor or musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and work in a post office for example and do their art as a hobby. Low points in the 7th don’t give necessarily accidents, I’ve seen accidents with high points too. Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord for natural death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high points in the 2nd People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; this I find also true High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. This is mostly true as far as my experience goes. Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don’t know. Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for yourself, see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed and sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances but can always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart interpretation. Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- planck12 [planck12] Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM To: Subject: Dear Margarita Hi, I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws dont work and some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used successfully and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really appreciate ur advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate predictions. Best Wishes Ums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Dear Margarita, You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. From my understanding this far this my understanding. 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher results???? (not too sure of this one....) Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello, > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws for marriage > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they do not work > in a more traditional frame. > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and Moon is not > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because people have to > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they like. I > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor or > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and work in a > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen accidents > with high points too. > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord for natural > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high points in the > 2nd > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; this I find > also true > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. This is > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see charts from > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho are less > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have to work > harder ????? I don't know. > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for yourself, > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed and > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances but can > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart interpretation. > Best regards > Margarita > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > Dear Margarita > > Hi, > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws dont work and > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used successfully > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really appreciate ur > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate predictions. > > Best Wishes > Ums > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Hello Ash, Yes, I understand that you don’t understand. But here are two chart of people whose life I know rather well. The first with low points is rather successful, the second one never had a job and lives on welfare 1) male born in Brussels (Belgium) on 28/january/1944 at 06 h 4E20 – 50N50. Asc is 2°11 Sag. and Moon 21°11 Aquarius. This man is an architect and had a successful life having his own business and employing several people. He is now slowly retiring. He married while still a student but divorced. His two sons were raised by both parents who stayed friends. He had a lot of girls friends in his life and married once again in the nineties. This marriage ended in a very expensive divorce. This last marriage was a Ketu dasha affair !! 2) male born in Bukavu (Dem Rép of Congo (ex-Zaïre) on 24/june/1951 at 04 h 28E52 – 2S30 -zone 2. Asc is 9°18 Taurus and Moon 12°34 Aquarius. He spent most of his childhood in boarding school because his parents were living abroad. He did not study well. When his parents retired he went to live with them. He was never able to have a job because he couldn’t write nor read well enough. He had some heart problems a few years ago and was operated. Since the death of his father he lives on welfare and what his mother provides. He passes his time going out with friends and watching TV. His worksheet looks rather good, also his intellect seems good according to the position of the Moon in the div. charts). So there must be something else. I’m interested to read your comments Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- ashsam73 [ashsam73] Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 AM To: Subject: Re: Dear Margarita Dear Margarita, You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. >From my understanding this far this my understanding. 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher results???? (not too sure of this one....) Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello, > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws for marriage > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they do not work > in a more traditional frame. > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and Moon is not > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because people have to > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they like. I > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor or > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and work in a > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen accidents > with high points too. > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord for natural > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high points in the > 2nd > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; this I find > also true > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. This is > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see charts from > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho are less > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have to work > harder ????? I don't know. > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for yourself, > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed and > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances but can > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart interpretation. > Best regards > Margarita > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > Dear Margarita > > Hi, > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws dont work and > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used successfully > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really appreciate ur > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate predictions. > > Best Wishes > Ums > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Dear Margarita, Ash, and list members, 2nd case is of a mentally retarded, or similar case. ( a person with out any tension, most happy person) Here I am having problem? Happiness means good earning? or having good authority? or Good family life? or More sexual partners? or Less tension or no tension? (Case no two is of this type) Generally a person passes his/ her most of the time with his family/spouse. If the relation with the spouse are only formal, with out any attachment, can we say this a happy life? Dispute with life partner, Divorce, can be called as happy life? Any how very good charts for study. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > Yes, I understand that you don't understand. But here are two chart of > people whose > life I know rather well. The first with low points is rather successful, > the second one never had a job and lives on welfare > 1) male born in Brussels (Belgium) on 28/january/1944 at 06 h 4E20 – > 50N50. Asc is 2°11 Sag. and Moon 21°11 Aquarius. This man is an architect > and had a successful life having his own business and employing several > people. He is now slowly retiring. He married while still a student but > divorced. His two sons were raised by both parents who stayed friends. He > had a lot of girls friends in his life and married once again in the > nineties. This marriage ended in a very expensive divorce. This last > marriage was a Ketu dasha affair !! > 2) male born in Bukavu (Dem Rép of Congo (ex-Zaïre) on 24/june/1951 at > 04 h 28E52 – 2S30 -zone 2. Asc is 9°18 Taurus and Moon 12°34 Aquarius. He > spent most of his childhood in boarding school because his parents were > living abroad. He did not study well. When his parents retired he went to > live with them. He was never able to have a job because he couldn't write > nor read well enough. He had some heart problems a few years ago and was > operated. Since the death of his father he lives on welfare and what his > mother provides. He passes his time going out with friends and watching TV. > His worksheet looks rather good, also his intellect seems good according to > the position of the Moon in the div. charts). So there must be something > else. > I'm interested to read your comments > Best regards > Margarita > > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 AM > > Re: Dear Margarita > > Dear Margarita, > > You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times > I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points > and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I > suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " > > This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some > charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. > > >From my understanding this far this my understanding. > > 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a > rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became > strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from > house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give > malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result > > 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to > fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such > charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power > to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher > results???? (not too sure of this one....) > > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello, > > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws > for marriage > > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they > do not work > > in a more traditional frame. > > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and > Moon is not > > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because > people have to > > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they > like. I > > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not > > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor > or > > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and > work in a > > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen > accidents > > with high points too. > > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord > for natural > > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high > points in the > > 2nd > > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; > this I find > > also true > > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. > This is > > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see > charts from > > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho > are less > > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have > to work > > harder ????? I don't know. > > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for > yourself, > > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed > and > > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances > but can > > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart > interpretation. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > > > Dear Margarita > > > > Hi, > > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws > dont work and > > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used > successfully > > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really > appreciate ur > > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate > predictions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Ums > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Yes Krushna, you are completely right. He is happy and lives in his world, never worrying about anything. I have to study this chart again. I remember, you gave us some laws about mentally retarded children. I have to pick this up again because I had almost forgotten about it. It was a mail dated 6 January 2002 and about a mentally retarded girl born in Charleroi(Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at 11h 49 am zone 1 and DST on = 09h49 G.M.T. and 4E26 and 50N25. I give this information for Ash and those who like to find the mail back with the laws for mentally retarded persons. Thanks and best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- krushanain [krushanain] Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:12 PM To: Subject: Re: Dear Margarita Dear Margarita, Ash, and list members, 2nd case is of a mentally retarded, or similar case. ( a person with out any tension, most happy person) Here I am having problem? Happiness means good earning? or having good authority? or Good family life? or More sexual partners? or Less tension or no tension? (Case no two is of this type) Generally a person passes his/ her most of the time with his family/spouse. If the relation with the spouse are only formal, with out any attachment, can we say this a happy life? Dispute with life partner, Divorce, can be called as happy life? Any how very good charts for study. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > Yes, I understand that you don't understand. But here are two chart of > people whose > life I know rather well. The first with low points is rather successful, > the second one never had a job and lives on welfare > 1) male born in Brussels (Belgium) on 28/january/1944 at 06 h 4E20 – > 50N50. Asc is 2°11 Sag. and Moon 21°11 Aquarius. This man is an architect > and had a successful life having his own business and employing several > people. He is now slowly retiring. He married while still a student but > divorced. His two sons were raised by both parents who stayed friends. He > had a lot of girls friends in his life and married once again in the > nineties. This marriage ended in a very expensive divorce. This last > marriage was a Ketu dasha affair !! > 2) male born in Bukavu (Dem Rép of Congo (ex-Zaïre) on 24/june/1951 at > 04 h 28E52 – 2S30 -zone 2. Asc is 9°18 Taurus and Moon 12°34 Aquarius. He > spent most of his childhood in boarding school because his parents were > living abroad. He did not study well. When his parents retired he went to > live with them. He was never able to have a job because he couldn't write > nor read well enough. He had some heart problems a few years ago and was > operated. Since the death of his father he lives on welfare and what his > mother provides. He passes his time going out with friends and watching TV. > His worksheet looks rather good, also his intellect seems good according to > the position of the Moon in the div. charts). So there must be something > else. > I'm interested to read your comments > Best regards > Margarita > > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 AM > > Re: Dear Margarita > > Dear Margarita, > > You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times > I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points > and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I > suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " > > This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some > charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. > > >From my understanding this far this my understanding. > > 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a > rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became > strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from > house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give > malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result > > 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to > fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such > charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power > to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher > results???? (not too sure of this one....) > > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello, > > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws > for marriage > > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they > do not work > > in a more traditional frame. > > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and > Moon is not > > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because > people have to > > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they > like. I > > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not > > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor > or > > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and > work in a > > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen > accidents > > with high points too. > > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord > for natural > > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high > points in the > > 2nd > > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; > this I find > > also true > > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. > This is > > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see > charts from > > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho > are less > > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have > to work > > harder ????? I don't know. > > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for > yourself, > > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed > and > > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances > but can > > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart > interpretation. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > > > Dear Margarita > > > > Hi, > > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws > dont work and > > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used > successfully > > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really > appreciate ur > > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate > predictions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Ums > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Dear Margarita, Thank you for pointing out this email with reference of mentally retarded child. I had also totally forgotten about this. You had asked about longevity in the chart thats referenced on 6th Jan 2002. Can you give feeback if this child survived upto Moons antra as predicted by Krushnaji ? I did the analysis last evening of the 2 charts you had given. Here it is. Chart - 1 --------- 1) 6th lord Venus is weak for all houses except 4th and 8th house. 2) Mars and shani in dushtana. 3) Shani in 6th house has become very strong due to Guru. 4) Mostly all planets except shani have high points. Mars will not be bad for 1st house being in House E with high bindus. 6th house. 5) Career - Mars is good for personality. Venus and Mercury i.e. LOD and LOE are both in 1st house so even more eager to give good results for 1st house. Mars in E with 7 bindus making the person have a lot of courage for battles. 6) Architect is not business but service as one is selling his/her talent. Points DBCE are 30:31:27:34. 7) 3 planets give low points for 6th house. Ma, Me and Ju. Venus is LOE and Sa is LOD. Mars is in House B with 7 bindus so it will act like 6th lord and Mercury is with 7 bindus again in lagna i.e. House A so it will act like Karak lord. Guru is the Natural Karak. 7th house 1) Venus in Mula. Shani becomes strong due to Guru. Mars is with high points and in 12th from B. LOD in 12th from B or 6th house reduces happiness. Guru is giving its points to Shani. Making it even stronger to revert results. Ketu represents Moon and Shani. Shani in 12th from B and Mars with 7 bindus in 12th from B and its LOE. 2) 12th lord all planets are giving good results and Venus i.e 11th lord or 12th from B is with less points for 12th house. 3) Marriage - Shani is not causing any delay so if the maraigable age is 21 then marrige can happen in Shani Mahadasha and Ketu antra i.e. after 1965/01. Ketu represents Shani and Moon and Shani is in 6th and strongest significator should give marriage. Since marriage happened mahadasha of Karak maybe that is why the remained as friends or life long friends. problems could have started or seperation during Shani/Mars antra 1971/02 thru 1972/03. 5th house Conception is possible in suns antra 1968/08 and 1969/07 and Shani/Rahu (shani) i.e. 1972/03 and 1975/02. 11th house for income All planets are pretty much giving high points. Also if you notice this person has pretty even distribution of SAV points for all 12 houses. The differences are not a lot. Chart - 2 --------- 1) 12th/11th = 35 points each. points in 10th is 30 so 5 points difference between the 11th and 10th. So no savings. Whatever he makes he spends. 2) Moon is with Rahu so its quality changes. 3) Moon is in navamsa of shani so this can make a person lathargic or lazy. 4) Mars, Sun, Jupiter are samdharmi to mercury 2nd lord so worries. If you also notice Mars, Me and Ju have high points for all houses so it means during its antra more worries for all houses. 5) Guru is vargottama and lord of 11th. So it will give income. Ma, Me and Sun will oppose Guru during their antra. 6) 2 spots in shanis sign i.e. lagna, sun or moon in navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa. So it shows this person may have good intellegence or may have street smarts. 4 spots are given by mercury so he may be inclined towards mercurial things. In overall life this person lived his life doing what he likes best I guess. Getting money and having fun.. periods of worry definitely indicated but doing what he wants.. .can you call that a good life or bad lol... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Yes Krushna, you are completely right. He is happy and lives in his world, > never worrying about anything. I have to study this chart again. I remember, > you gave us some laws about mentally retarded children. I have to pick this > up again because I had almost forgotten about it. It was a mail dated 6 > January 2002 and about a mentally retarded girl born in Charleroi (Belgium) > on 21 april 2000 at 11h 49 am zone 1 and DST on = 09h49 G.M.T. and 4E26 and > 50N25. I give this information for Ash and those who like to find the mail > back with the laws for mentally retarded persons. > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > > krushanain [krushanain] > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:12 PM > > Re: Dear Margarita > > Dear Margarita, Ash, and list members, > 2nd case is of a mentally retarded, or similar case. ( a > person with out any tension, most happy person) > > Here I am having problem? Happiness means good earning? or > having good authority? or Good family life? or More sexual partners? > or Less tension or no tension? (Case no two is of this type) > Generally a person passes his/ her most of the time with his > family/spouse. If the relation with the spouse are only formal, with > out any attachment, can we say this a happy life? > Dispute with life partner, Divorce, can be called as happy > life? > Any how very good charts for study. > krushna > > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > Yes, I understand that you don't understand. But here are two chart > of > > people whose > > life I know rather well. The first with low points is rather > successful, > > the second one never had a job and lives on welfare > > 1) male born in Brussels (Belgium) on 28/january/1944 at 06 h > 4E20 – > > 50N50. Asc is 2°11 Sag. and Moon 21°11 Aquarius. This man is an > architect > > and had a successful life having his own business and employing > several > > people. He is now slowly retiring. He married while still a student > but > > divorced. His two sons were raised by both parents who stayed > friends. He > > had a lot of girls friends in his life and married once again in the > > nineties. This marriage ended in a very expensive divorce. This last > > marriage was a Ketu dasha affair !! > > 2) male born in Bukavu (Dem Rép of Congo (ex-Zaïre) on > 24/june/1951 at > > 04 h 28E52 – 2S30 -zone 2. Asc is 9°18 Taurus and Moon 12°34 > Aquarius. He > > spent most of his childhood in boarding school because his parents > were > > living abroad. He did not study well. When his parents retired he > went to > > live with them. He was never able to have a job because he couldn't > write > > nor read well enough. He had some heart problems a few years ago > and was > > operated. Since the death of his father he lives on welfare and > what his > > mother provides. He passes his time going out with friends and > watching TV. > > His worksheet looks rather good, also his intellect seems good > according to > > the position of the Moon in the div. charts). So there must be > something > > else. > > I'm interested to read your comments > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 AM > > > > Re: Dear Margarita > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > > You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times > > I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points > > and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I > > suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " > > > > This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some > > charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. > > > > >From my understanding this far this my understanding. > > > > 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a > > rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became > > strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from > > house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give > > malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result > > > > 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to > > fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such > > charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power > > to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher > > results???? (not too sure of this one....) > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " dmlettens " > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws > > for marriage > > > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they > > do not work > > > in a more traditional frame. > > > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and > > Moon is not > > > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because > > people have to > > > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they > > like. I > > > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but > not > > > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor > > or > > > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and > > work in a > > > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > > > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen > > accidents > > > with high points too. > > > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord > > for natural > > > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > > > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high > > points in the > > > 2nd > > > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; > > this I find > > > also true > > > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. > > This is > > > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > > > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see > > charts from > > > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho > > are less > > > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have > > to work > > > harder ????? I don't know. > > > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for > > yourself, > > > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed > > and > > > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances > > but can > > > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart > > interpretation. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > > > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > > > > > Dear Margarita > > > > > > Hi, > > > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws > > dont work and > > > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used > > successfully > > > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really > > appreciate ur > > > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate > > predictions. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Ums > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hello Tommy, Well, of course you could be right. But as nobody knows better, we just have to stick to the facts and time that is given. For a good study of course we should check several dates and see how they fit, like the birth of children for example, but even then time slots are sometime rather wide. I can check to birth dates of the children but I have to ask for them. I know he has two sons born in the beginning of the seventies. His many female relationships cannot be checked I think, they are too many and I’m sure he will not remember them all; but I can check on his latest marriage dates and divorce and see how this all turns out with scorpio asc. Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- jyotish [jyotish] Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:23 AM SV: Re: Dear Margarita Hello Margarita, have you tried scorpio asc for case 1? How safe are the birthtime of 6 h? Case 1 gets a lot ot raja yogas with scorpio asc. Regards Tommy -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dmlettens [dmlettens] Skickat: den 22 maj 2003 08:54 Till: Ämne: RE: Re: Dear Margarita Yes Krushna, you are completely right. He is happy and lives in his world, never worrying about anything. I have to study this chart again. I remember, you gave us some laws about mentally retarded children. I have to pick this up again because I had almost forgotten about it. It was a mail dated 6 January 2002 and about a mentally retarded girl born in Charleroi(Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at 11h 49 am zone 1 and DST on = 09h49 G.M.T. and 4E26 and 50N25. I give this information for Ash and those who like to find the mail back with the laws for mentally retarded persons. Thanks and best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- krushanain [krushanain] Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:12 PM To: Subject: Re: Dear Margarita Dear Margarita, Ash, and list members, 2nd case is of a mentally retarded, or similar case. ( a person with out any tension, most happy person) Here I am having problem? Happiness means good earning? or having good authority? or Good family life? or More sexual partners? or Less tension or no tension? (Case no two is of this type) Generally a person passes his/ her most of the time with his family/spouse. If the relation with the spouse are only formal, with out any attachment, can we say this a happy life? Dispute with life partner, Divorce, can be called as happy life? Any how very good charts for study. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > Yes, I understand that you don't understand. But here are two chart of > people whose > life I know rather well. The first with low points is rather successful, > the second one never had a job and lives on welfare > 1) male born in Brussels (Belgium) on 28/january/1944 at 06 h 4E20 – > 50N50. Asc is 2°11 Sag. and Moon 21°11 Aquarius. This man is an architect > and had a successful life having his own business and employing several > people. He is now slowly retiring. He married while still a student but > divorced. His two sons were raised by both parents who stayed friends. He > had a lot of girls friends in his life and married once again in the > nineties. This marriage ended in a very expensive divorce. This last > marriage was a Ketu dasha affair !! > 2) male born in Bukavu (Dem Rép of Congo (ex-Zaïre) on 24/june/1951 at > 04 h 28E52 – 2S30 -zone 2. Asc is 9°18 Taurus and Moon 12°34 Aquarius. He > spent most of his childhood in boarding school because his parents were > living abroad. He did not study well. When his parents retired he went to > live with them. He was never able to have a job because he couldn't write > nor read well enough. He had some heart problems a few years ago and was > operated. Since the death of his father he lives on welfare and what his > mother provides. He passes his time going out with friends and watching TV. > His worksheet looks rather good, also his intellect seems good according to > the position of the Moon in the div. charts). So there must be something > else. > I'm interested to read your comments > Best regards > Margarita > > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 AM > > Re: Dear Margarita > > Dear Margarita, > > You wrote " Something which is hard to understand is that some times > I see charts from rather successful people with overall low points > and people wwho are less successful with overall high points. So I > suppose the former have to work harder ????? I don't know. " > > This part I find very interesting. Margarita, If you have some > charts to share I would be very interested to understand this part. > > >From my understanding this far this my understanding. > > 1) For case where chart is strong or has more points it may give a > rosy picture at first glance but if we check how the planets became > strong it could be due to fact that it got points from 12th from > house B or from 6th lord... so such charts as you know will give > malefic results and here more points would mean more malefic result > > 2) In chart with low points giving good results this could be due to > fact planets are badly placed and its actually good that such > charts have low points so the bad placements do not have much power > to deliver such results so such people might escape harsher > results???? (not too sure of this one....) > > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello, > > Well, this is only my findings up to now. I find that some laws > for marriage > > don't work in a western context. But this doesn't mean that they > do not work > > in a more traditional frame. > > The position of the lord of 10th in navamsha from asc, Sun and > Moon is not > > relevant in western culture either. This is probably because > people have to > > accept a job to get a living and not necessarily in the field they > like. I > > think this position gives the basic orientation of a person but not > > necessarily his profession. So somebody could be a very good actor > or > > musician but you can not support a family on that so they go and > work in a > > post office for example and do their art as a hobby. > > Low points in the 7th don't give necessarily accidents, I've seen > accidents > > with high points too. > > Things that definitely work are the high points of the 8th lord > for natural > > death and a relationship between lord A and the bukti. > > Separations, not necessarily in a marriage work well with high > points in the > > 2nd > > People who have high points in the 1st tend to be more assured; > this I find > > also true > > High points in the 12th from asc/sun/moon gives more expenses. > This is > > mostly true as far as my experience goes. > > Something which is hard to understand is that some times I see > charts from > > rather successful people with overall low points and people wwho > are less > > successful with overall high points. So I suppose the former have > to work > > harder ????? I don't know. > > Well, this is my experience only. Perhaps you have to find out for > yourself, > > see in which context you live, etc. No system is completely closed > and > > sealed off, you have to adapt it according to the circumstances > but can > > always use the basis which is sound enough to build a chart > interpretation. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > planck12 [planck12] > > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:59 AM > > > > Dear Margarita > > > > Hi, > > I was just going over post and U have mentioned that some laws > dont work and > > some laws do. Could I ask which laws and techniques u have used > successfully > > and which not. Im a newbie to this systems and would really > appreciate ur > > advice as to which techinquies according to U yield accurate > predictions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Ums > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.