Chart - Discussion on other list

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

 

This was a chart that was discussed on another list. I have taken

permission to post this chart on our list for study purposes. The

native of this chart is facing considerable tention for the past few

years including his second daughters divorse.

 

Birth Data : October 5th, 1946

Time of Birth : 12:45 pm

Time Zone : 5:30

Latitude : 28N40

Longitude : 77E13

DST = No.

 

Lagna 13Sg07

Navamsa : Cancer

 

Can list members say why the

1) native is having stress and

2) why are his daughters divorsed ?

3) Why was there a love marriage ?

 

Please use KRUSHNA'S AYANAMSA ONLY.

 

 

I tried to time the Marriage to verify the data and as per

Krushnajis teachings I could easily narrow down the Marriage and

Conception times of birth of children to the Correct Antar Dasa.

However I failed to narrow it down further to the proper 1/3rd part.

 

my reply to this mail was

 

" Seems to me that this gentleman might be married between August 01

1968 and July 20th 1969. I would say around August 17th thru August

30th 1968.

Possible conception for children in in Shani's antra itself i.e

between August 01st 1968 thru July 06th 1971.

Can you confirm the same please. "

 

The marriage took place on Feb 14th 1970. I had taken the first

1/3rd portion of the antra and the marriage happend in 3rd 1/3rd

portion.

 

Krushnaji, can you give guidance as to how to narrow the time

further.

 

 

Here are some significant dates and other details about the native

that were given:

 

father: was a central govt servant throughout, passed away in Apr.

2003, in mid 80s.

 

mother:very devout and gentle lady, housewife

 

siblings: has 2 other brothers and 1 sister - he is 2nd by age

(however, he has another sister, I think elder to him, who has been

given away to an aunt in adoption, and lives abroad). All other

siblings are in Delhi

 

native: was a bright but mischivious student, more active in sports,

NCC and other activities. did not do too well in academics, but

could have. Marriage Feb. 14, 1970 (love marriage), 1st daughter-Nov

26, 1970 (married and divorced - no issues), 2nd daughter- Jun 28,

1972 (daughter & a son)

 

career: in pvt service 1970-72(did well), in business 1972-76

(flopped), returned to previous service 1976-83(prospered), shifted

to Hyd-bad June 83, set up a steel factory for his co-brother, as a

working partner, was comfortable till 1997. thereafter owners

brother was posted here to take charge and native was removed in

1998. Tried many unsuccessful trading ventures. Till 1983, he was

connected with textiles & garments.

 

Please make a try.

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

[Guest guest]

Hello Ash,

Thanks for

this chart.

I give you

my guessing about the last 1/3 of the

the Rahu/Saturn period for marriage.

Saturn is

terribly strong because he gets the points from Mars/Mercury/Jupiter.

But Saturn

causes delay when he has some relationship with houses A,B or C or their lords

in Rahi and Navamsa. Looking at Saturn we see that he is samdharmi to Mercury,

lord of B and C; he himself is also lord of A for the 7th. In navamsa

Mercury and Saturn are together. Saturn has also a 0 in house A.Finally Saturn

aspects the luminaries. I think this could explain the delay. As for the date :

in my opinion Saturn worked for Mercury. Mercury has good points for 5th,7th

and 12th houses but Saturn sub came first and because of his strong

points (and even if he aspects house A), he gave marriage.

For the date

of marriage, Sun was in first degrees of Aquarius so Mars/Saturn, they score

very high for the 7th house.

Of course,

I wouldn’t perhaps not have guessed it correctly without knowing the given date, but anyway, that’s how I see it

now.

As for

love marriage, lords of 5th,7th and 12th have

to be connected in some way

Mars and

Mercury are lords of the 5th,7th

and 12th houses; they are together

Mercury,

lord of the 7th is also situated in the 4th place from

the strongest significator (Saturn)

The 7th

lord Mercury is also samdharmi to the Moon (4/10 relationship)

 

As for the

divorce of his daughter, I suppose we have to look at her chart. I cannot read

this from the father’s chart. Perhaps some can but not me !

 

As for

stress I should think that it could be the relationship of the luminaries and

Mars/Mercury/Jupiter with Saturn, the second lord who usually creates problems.

In more general terms there is on the one hand a stimulating factor formed by

Mars/Mercury and Jupiter conjunction in Libra. Also Jupiter ascendant is

something dynamic position of Jupiter considered. Then there is Sun and Moon

under influence of Saturn and Saturn in Moon sign. So, his mood has ups and

downs.

Something

else perhaps, but that’s just my personal view : for the 1st house, A has 33 points; this house

pushes houses B and C but they have only 24 points each, so they have

difficulty to follow the impulse given by A and are always running behind. But

again, this is only my personal view. I would appreciate some comments on that

 

Death of

father happened in Saturn main. Venus is lord of 3th house for the father and

Saturn is natural samdharmi to Venus; this justifies main period. The subs

could be Ketu or Venus; this doesn’t seem very clear to me.

 

Mother

very devout. Yes perhaps : very strong Moon/Saturn influence although Moon

moves away from this influence in the div charts.

 

As to his career.

Troubles in 1998 come under Saturn/Saturn, lord of the 2nd =

troubles and worries.

Thanks for

the chart Ash and best regards

Margarita

 

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Message-----

ashsam73

[ashsam73]

Wednesday, June 18, 2003

2:09 PM

 

Subject:

Chart - Discussion on other list

 

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

 

This was a chart that was discussed on another list. I have taken

permission to post this chart on our list for study purposes. The

native of this chart is facing considerable tention for the past few

years including his second daughters divorse.

 

Birth Data : October 5th, 1946

Time of Birth : 12:45 pm

Time Zone : 5:30

Latitude : 28N40

Longitude : 77E13

DST = No.

 

Lagna 13Sg07

Navamsa : Cancer

 

Can list members say why the

1) native is having stress and

2) why are his daughters divorsed ?

3) Why was there a love marriage ?

 

Please use KRUSHNA'S AYANAMSA ONLY.

 

 

I tried to time the Marriage to verify the data and as per

Krushnajis teachings I could easily narrow down the Marriage and

Conception times of birth of children to the Correct Antar Dasa.

However I failed to narrow it down further to the proper 1/3rd part.

 

my reply to this mail was

 

" Seems to me that this gentleman might be married between August 01

1968 and July 20th 1969. I would say around August 17th thru August

30th 1968.

Possible conception for children in in Shani's antra itself i.e

between August 01st 1968 thru July 06th 1971.

Can you confirm the same please. "

 

The marriage took place on Feb 14th 1970. I had taken the first

1/3rd portion of the antra and the marriage happend in 3rd 1/3rd

portion.

 

Krushnaji, can you give guidance as to how to narrow the time

further.

 

 

Here are some significant dates and other details about the native

that were given:

 

father: was a central govt servant throughout, passed away in Apr.

2003, in mid 80s.

 

mother:very devout and gentle lady, housewife

 

siblings: has 2 other brothers and 1 sister - he is 2nd by age

(however, he has another sister, I think elder to him, who has been

given away to an aunt in adoption, and lives abroad). All other

siblings are in Delhi

 

native: was a bright but mischivious student, more active in sports,

NCC and other activities. did not do too well in academics, but

could have. Marriage Feb. 14, 1970 (love marriage), 1st daughter-Nov

26, 1970 (married and divorced - no issues), 2nd daughter- Jun 28,

1972 (daughter & a son)

 

career: in pvt service 1970-72(did well), in business 1972-76

(flopped), returned to previous service 1976-83(prospered), shifted

to Hyd-bad June 83, set up a steel factory for his co-brother, as a

working partner, was comfortable till 1997. thereafter owners

brother was posted here to take charge and native was removed in

1998. Tried many unsuccessful trading ventures. Till 1983, he was

connected with textiles & garments.

 

Please make a try.

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash