Question on lesson ? - To Chandrashekhar and list members

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar and list members,

 

These discussion were held in the past. This is what I could dig up

from the archives and I thought it would be useful.

 

Ashtakavarga System

/message/428

/message/436

/message/431

 

You can also check other members replies on this thread from message

index.

 

Here is a complete chart study with rectification. This

demonstrates very well how Krushnas Ashtakavarga system is used.

 

complete chart study

/message/519

/message/523

/message/526

/message/552

 

You can once again read all exchanges between some senior members of

this list and their queries.

 

I hope that helps,

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " Chandrashekhar "

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Even ashtakavarga system, finally tries to assess the strength of

Planets. In Vedic Astrology, the same is done through finding out

strength through Vargas. So I think the systems are complimentary

and not mutually exclusive. May be Krishnaji would like to comment.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> ashsam73

>

> Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:52 PM

> Re: Question on lesson ?

>

>

> Dear Chandreshekhar,

>

> Krushnaji had told us in the past that mostly all the reasonings

> given in the texts i.e classics are based on principles of

Houses

> A,B,C,D and E only. Hence my quest to understand the reasonings

> using this system only i.e. in terms of A,B,C,D and E only and

not

> confusing it with other systems.

>

> I did think of what you had said regarding Moon in scorpio in

> debilitation and by general logic 4th karak is debilitated so

> difficulty to mother as the inference. But in this system

planets

> in debilitation sign are good as they have benefic aspects

> especially with Guru, Mars and Shani who have 3 dristis each.

> Mostly we use the term debilitation when planets have less AV

points

> i.e. < 4 and exalted when planets have > 4 bindus. 4 is

neutral.

>

> We do use signs but thats not to find timing but the quality of

> result experienced.

>

> For example if Shani is placed in Aries but is strongest

> significator (hights points in worksheet) or is LOD or LOE then

> itself can give results but quality of results will be based on

the

> multiplication factor. So if that shani has say 20 points in

> worksheet then its results will be 20*0.4 = 8 points.

> But result will happen during shanis antra only.

> This is an hypothetical example.

>

> Thanking you for your post and explanation,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> >

> > In this system we consider 3rd house for mother and not 4th.

Also

> in

> > this system Karaks are 8th house from the house in reference.

So

> > Karak for mother would be Shani (for aries lagna) i.e. Shani

would

> > control the overall happiness for 3rd house There was a

discussion

> > some time back between Das Gupta and Krushanaji wherein

Krushnaji

> > explained why 3rd house is taken for mother.

> >

> > Moon in this system is Karak for 9th house as its lord of 8th

> house

> > from 9th house i.e. 4th house for aries lagna.

> >

> > I am sure that this placement must be troublesome for

happiness

> from

> > mother but I am trying to understand the reasoning behind this

> using

> > House A,B,C,D and E and with Bindus.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

, " Chandrashekhar "

> > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > If I may intervene, the reason is, Moon is karaka for 4th

house

> > and mother. His placement in 8th house in debilitation , can

> > indicate trouble to Mother. Especially as he is also lord of

the

> 4th

> > for Aries ascendant.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > -

> > > ashsam73

> > >

> > > Monday, June 16, 2003 3:55 PM

> > > Question on lesson ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krushnaji and list members,

> > > I had a question regarding lesson " Results of planest

situated

> > in

> > > various houses "

> > >

> > > Result of Moon placed in 8th house for Aries lagna : Its

> > written

> > > that Moon in Scorpio reduces happiness from Mother ?

> > >

> > > What is the logic behind this ? 3rd house is for mother

and

> 8th

> > > house is 6th from 3rd so planets in House E should

increase

> > > happiness but why in this case its reducing happiness.

> > >

> > > Other way round from 8th house, 3rd house is its Karak.

So

> lord

> > of

> > > A placed in B should be good ?

> > >

> > > Can you please explain the reasoning ?

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

In message 428, Krushnaji says that Ascendant Sun and Moon have also to be studied. So I do not appear to be far off the mark.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

-

ashsam73

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:25 PM

Re: Question on lesson ? - To Chandrashekhar and list members

Dear Chandrashekhar and list members,These discussion were held in the past. This is what I could dig up from the archives and I thought it would be useful.Ashtakavarga System/message/428/message/436/message/431You can also check other members replies on this thread from message index.Here is a complete chart study with rectification. This demonstrates very well how Krushnas Ashtakavarga system is used.complete chart study/message/519/message/523/message/526/message/552You can once again read all exchanges between some senior members of this list and their queries. I hope that helps,Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Ash,> Even ashtakavarga system, finally tries to assess the strength of Planets. In Vedic Astrology, the same is done through finding out strength through Vargas. So I think the systems are complimentary and not mutually exclusive. May be Krishnaji would like to comment.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> - > ashsam73 > > Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:52 PM> Re: Question on lesson ?> > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > Krushnaji had told us in the past that mostly all the reasonings > given in the texts i.e classics are based on principles of Houses > A,B,C,D and E only. Hence my quest to understand the reasonings > using this system only i.e. in terms of A,B,C,D and E only and not > confusing it with other systems.> > I did think of what you had said regarding Moon in scorpio in > debilitation and by general logic 4th karak is debilitated so > difficulty to mother as the inference. But in this system planets > in debilitation sign are good as they have benefic aspects > especially with Guru, Mars and Shani who have 3 dristis each. > Mostly we use the term debilitation when planets have less AV points > i.e. < 4 and exalted when planets have > 4 bindus. 4 is neutral. > > We do use signs but thats not to find timing but the quality of > result experienced.> > For example if Shani is placed in Aries but is strongest > significator (hights points in worksheet) or is LOD or LOE then > itself can give results but quality of results will be based on the > multiplication factor. So if that shani has say 20 points in > worksheet then its results will be 20*0.4 = 8 points.> But result will happen during shanis antra only.> This is an hypothetical example.> > Thanking you for your post and explanation,> Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > , "ashsam73" > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > > > In this system we consider 3rd house for mother and not 4th. Also > in > > this system Karaks are 8th house from the house in reference. So > > Karak for mother would be Shani (for aries lagna) i.e. Shani would > > control the overall happiness for 3rd house There was a discussion > > some time back between Das Gupta and Krushanaji wherein Krushnaji > > explained why 3rd house is taken for mother.> > > > Moon in this system is Karak for 9th house as its lord of 8th > house > > from 9th house i.e. 4th house for aries lagna. > > > > I am sure that this placement must be troublesome for happiness > from > > mother but I am trying to understand the reasoning behind this > using > > House A,B,C,D and E and with Bindus.> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > > > , "Chandrashekhar" > > <boxdel> wrote:> > > Dear Ash,> > > If I may intervene, the reason is, Moon is karaka for 4th house > > and mother. His placement in 8th house in debilitation , can > > indicate trouble to Mother. Especially as he is also lord of the > 4th > > for Aries ascendant.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > - > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > Monday, June 16, 2003 3:55 PM> > > Question on lesson ?> > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji and list members,> > > I had a question regarding lesson "Results of planest situated > > in > > > various houses"> > > > > > Result of Moon placed in 8th house for Aries lagna : Its > > written > > > that Moon in Scorpio reduces happiness from Mother ?> > > > > > What is the logic behind this ? 3rd house is for mother and > 8th > > > house is 6th from 3rd so planets in House E should increase > > > happiness but why in this case its reducing happiness.> > > > > > Other way round from 8th house, 3rd house is its Karak. So > lord > > of > > > A placed in B should be good ?> > > > > > Can you please explain the reasoning ?> > > > > > Thanking you,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar,

This system is no differnt than Vedic Astrology. All the sages have

said to check all results form Ascendent, Sun and Moon.

 

In the mail to Siva too I had checked points of 11th vs 12th from

lagna, sun and moon. Similarly we check D:B:C:E i.e. 3:6:10:11 from

Karak sthan so see if one is doing business. If the person is then

these points will be in ascending order.

 

i.e We check the grace of Karaktwa of Karak. If they are in

ascending order then its graceful. Person has good daring to do own

business and returns will be good and so will the social status. So

for checking that from worksheet check DBCE points for 6th house

that would give how Karak i.e. 1st house would be.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Chandrashekhar "

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> In message 428, Krushnaji says that Ascendant Sun and Moon have

also to be studied. So I do not appear to be far off the mark.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> ashsam73

>

> Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:25 PM

> Re: Question on lesson ? -

To Chandrashekhar and list members

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar and list members,

>

> These discussion were held in the past. This is what I could

dig up

> from the archives and I thought it would be useful.

>

> Ashtakavarga System

>

/message/428

>

/message/436

>

/message/431

>

> You can also check other members replies on this thread from

message

> index.

>

> Here is a complete chart study with rectification. This

> demonstrates very well how Krushnas Ashtakavarga system is used.

>

> complete chart study

>

/message/519

>

/message/523

>

/message/526

>

/message/552

>

> You can once again read all exchanges between some senior

members of

> this list and their queries.

>

> I hope that helps,

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

> --- In

, " Chandrashekhar "

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > Even ashtakavarga system, finally tries to assess the strength

of

> Planets. In Vedic Astrology, the same is done through finding

out

> strength through Vargas. So I think the systems are

complimentary

> and not mutually exclusive. May be Krishnaji would like to

comment.

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > ashsam73

> >

> > Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:52 PM

> > Re: Question on lesson ?

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> >

> > Krushnaji had told us in the past that mostly all the

reasonings

> > given in the texts i.e classics are based on principles of

> Houses

> > A,B,C,D and E only. Hence my quest to understand the

reasonings

> > using this system only i.e. in terms of A,B,C,D and E only

and

> not

> > confusing it with other systems.

> >

> > I did think of what you had said regarding Moon in scorpio

in

> > debilitation and by general logic 4th karak is debilitated

so

> > difficulty to mother as the inference. But in this system

> planets

> > in debilitation sign are good as they have benefic aspects

> > especially with Guru, Mars and Shani who have 3 dristis

each.

> > Mostly we use the term debilitation when planets have less

AV

> points

> > i.e. < 4 and exalted when planets have > 4 bindus. 4 is

> neutral.

> >

> > We do use signs but thats not to find timing but the quality

of

> > result experienced.

> >

> > For example if Shani is placed in Aries but is strongest

> > significator (hights points in worksheet) or is LOD or LOE

then

> > itself can give results but quality of results will be based

on

> the

> > multiplication factor. So if that shani has say 20 points

in

> > worksheet then its results will be 20*0.4 = 8 points.

> > But result will happen during shanis antra only.

> > This is an hypothetical example.

> >

> > Thanking you for your post and explanation,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> > >

> > > In this system we consider 3rd house for mother and not

4th.

> Also

> > in

> > > this system Karaks are 8th house from the house in

reference.

> So

> > > Karak for mother would be Shani (for aries lagna) i.e.

Shani

> would

> > > control the overall happiness for 3rd house There was a

> discussion

> > > some time back between Das Gupta and Krushanaji wherein

> Krushnaji

> > > explained why 3rd house is taken for mother.

> > >

> > > Moon in this system is Karak for 9th house as its lord of

8th

> > house

> > > from 9th house i.e. 4th house for aries lagna.

> > >

> > > I am sure that this placement must be troublesome for

> happiness

> > from

> > > mother but I am trying to understand the reasoning behind

this

> > using

> > > House A,B,C,D and E and with Bindus.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " Chandrashekhar "

> > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > If I may intervene, the reason is, Moon is karaka for

4th

> house

> > > and mother. His placement in 8th house in debilitation ,

can

> > > indicate trouble to Mother. Especially as he is also lord

of

> the

> > 4th

> > > for Aries ascendant.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > -

> > > > ashsam73

> > > >

> > > > Monday, June 16, 2003 3:55 PM

> > > > Question on

lesson ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Krushnaji and list members,

> > > > I had a question regarding lesson " Results of planest

> situated

> > > in

> > > > various houses "

> > > >

> > > > Result of Moon placed in 8th house for Aries lagna :

Its

> > > written

> > > > that Moon in Scorpio reduces happiness from Mother ?

> > > >

> > > > What is the logic behind this ? 3rd house is for

mother

> and

> > 8th

> > > > house is 6th from 3rd so planets in House E should

> increase

> > > > happiness but why in this case its reducing happiness.

> > > >

> > > > Other way round from 8th house, 3rd house is its

Karak.

> So

> > lord

> > > of

> > > > A placed in B should be good ?

> > > >

> > > > Can you please explain the reasoning ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >