shani in 12th .. 6 bindus - Sanjay, Phillippe, Denis

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

 

I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet programs.

 

Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th house or this

particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 - bindus obtained

by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e. its dristi.

 

Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you all incorporated

this in your worksheets... please let me know your understanding

regarding this topic.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered 6th lord being

> placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2 bindus is showing

> results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

>

> So far I was only considering that for 6th lord being placed in

6th

> house. This is interesting. I had also asked about considering

6th

> lord in other houses and it was to be considered like we consider

> 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So if Shani were

6th

> lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider it as 6

bindus

> or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5 bindus then to

> consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider its aspects...

>

> This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is reasoning

this

> different and I would like to discuss this topic after we finish

> discussing Shivas chart.

>

> I would like to get this fundamental concept understood

correctly.

>

> I think we should also consider some charts to get proper

> understanding of this phenemon.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

One more information for you: When sixth lord

is situated in any house with MORE points then

considering that house as " B " it will increase the

result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

of the houses it aspects.

If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

the strength of that planet should not be considered

for the result.

krushna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

 

Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

 

I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

programs.

 

Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

house or this

particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

bindus obtained

by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

its dristi.

 

Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

all incorporated

this in your worksheets... please let me know your

understanding

regarding this topic.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

,

" ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

6th lord being

> placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

bindus is showing

> results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

>

> So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

being placed in

6th

> house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

considering

6th

> lord in other houses and it was to be considered

like we consider

> 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

if Shani were

6th

> lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

it as 6

bindus

> or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

bindus then to

> consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

its aspects...

>

> This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

reasoning

this

> different and I would like to discuss this topic

after we finish

> discussing Shivas chart.

>

> I would like to get this fundamental concept

understood

correctly.

>

> I think we should also consider some charts to get

proper

> understanding of this phenemon.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

I understand that as per the system

 

1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the result

of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

 

2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus will

aspect with malefic bindus.

 

3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet receive

points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider their

benefic points.

 

What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the points only

for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where you had

said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to reverse

its bindu.

 

a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house with 2

bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and then take

its aspect.

 

b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had reversed

the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to consider

6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

 

c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord placed in

12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have considered

its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it had 6

bindus.

 

So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind computing

things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because this

6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

 

I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is also

getting confused.

 

Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E also

are eager to give results ?

 

Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are seeing

the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with (like

boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10 relationship) that

will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring more

clarify to our thought process.

 

Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are very

busy.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, krushna jugalkalani

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> One more information for you: When sixth lord

> is situated in any house with MORE points then

> considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> of the houses it aspects.

> If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> the strength of that planet should not be considered

> for the result.

> krushna

>

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

>

> I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> programs.

>

> Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> house or this

> particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> bindus obtained

> by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> its dristi.

>

> Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> all incorporated

> this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> understanding

> regarding this topic.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Margarita,

> > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> 6th lord being

> > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> bindus is showing

> > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> >

> > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> being placed in

> 6th

> > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> considering

> 6th

> > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> like we consider

> > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> if Shani were

> 6th

> > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> it as 6

> bindus

> > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> bindus then to

> > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> its aspects...

> >

> > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> reasoning

> this

> > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> after we finish

> > discussing Shivas chart.

> >

> > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> understood

> correctly.

> >

> > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> proper

> > understanding of this phenemon.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and other members,

In my last mail please read first house in stead of any

house. Sorry for the typo.

krushna

 

 

, krushna jugalkalani

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> One more information for you: When sixth lord

> is situated in any house with MORE points then

> considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> of the houses it aspects.

> If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> the strength of that planet should not be considered

> for the result.

> krushna

>

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

>

> I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> programs.

>

> Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> house or this

> particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> bindus obtained

> by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> its dristi.

>

> Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> all incorporated

> this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> understanding

> regarding this topic.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Margarita,

> > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> 6th lord being

> > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> bindus is showing

> > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> >

> > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> being placed in

> 6th

> > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> considering

> 6th

> > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> like we consider

> > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> if Shani were

> 6th

> > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> it as 6

> bindus

> > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> bindus then to

> > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> its aspects...

> >

> > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> reasoning

> this

> > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> after we finish

> > discussing Shivas chart.

> >

> > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> understood

> correctly.

> >

> > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> proper

> > understanding of this phenemon.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

Sixth lord always gives reverse result then what is seen. When

any planet is with less points it's sight is benefic. But for sixth

lord it will be reverse. It's presence in any house with more points

will reduce the result of that house. ( Except first house.)

For getting the true effect I have suggested to consider it's

points as reverse. It means when it is having benefic sight on any

house or planet, it will be malefic. For the same reason The points

gained due to sixth lord should not be considered. Even Equal points

from the strength of the planet should be delated, and if still the

power of the planet is more, then and then it will give the result.

(it means for geting the actual strength of a planet getting strength

due to the sight of sixth lord, double the points should be delated

to judge its strength for giving the result. ( double points to

compensate the ill effect of sixth lord.)

This is not applicable for 1st house.

krushna

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji,

> I understand that as per the system

>

> 1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the

result

> of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

>

> 2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus will

> aspect with malefic bindus.

>

> 3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet

receive

> points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider their

> benefic points.

>

> What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the points

only

> for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where you

had

> said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to reverse

> its bindu.

>

> a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house with 2

> bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and then

take

> its aspect.

>

> b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had reversed

> the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to consider

> 6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

>

> c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord placed in

> 12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have considered

> its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it had

6

> bindus.

>

> So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind

computing

> things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because this

> 6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

>

> I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is also

> getting confused.

>

> Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E also

> are eager to give results ?

>

> Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are seeing

> the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with (like

> boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10 relationship)

that

> will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring more

> clarify to our thought process.

>

> Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are very

> busy.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> , krushna

jugalkalani

> <krushanain> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > One more information for you: When sixth lord

> > is situated in any house with MORE points then

> > considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> > result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> > of the houses it aspects.

> > If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> > the strength of that planet should not be considered

> > for the result.

> > krushna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

> >

> > I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> > programs.

> >

> > Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> > house or this

> > particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> > bindus obtained

> > by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> > its dristi.

> >

> > Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> > all incorporated

> > this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> > understanding

> > regarding this topic.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Margarita,

> > > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> > 6th lord being

> > > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> > bindus is showing

> > > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> > >

> > > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> > being placed in

> > 6th

> > > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> > considering

> > 6th

> > > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> > like we consider

> > > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> > if Shani were

> > 6th

> > > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> > it as 6

> > bindus

> > > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> > bindus then to

> > > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> > its aspects...

> > >

> > > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> > reasoning

> > this

> > > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> > after we finish

> > > discussing Shivas chart.

> > >

> > > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> > understood

> > correctly.

> > >

> > > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> > proper

> > > understanding of this phenemon.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

If the sixth lord is Mars and situated in 6th, then it's

sight on first house will not be malefic.

krushna

 

-- In , " krushanain "

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Sixth lord always gives reverse result then what is seen.

When

> any planet is with less points it's sight is benefic. But for sixth

> lord it will be reverse. It's presence in any house with more

points

> will reduce the result of that house. ( Except first house.)

> For getting the true effect I have suggested to consider

it's

> points as reverse. It means when it is having benefic sight on any

> house or planet, it will be malefic. For the same reason The points

> gained due to sixth lord should not be considered. Even Equal

points

> from the strength of the planet should be delated, and if still the

> power of the planet is more, then and then it will give the result.

> (it means for geting the actual strength of a planet getting

strength

> due to the sight of sixth lord, double the points should be delated

> to judge its strength for giving the result. ( double points to

> compensate the ill effect of sixth lord.)

> This is not applicable for 1st house.

> krushna

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji,

> > I understand that as per the system

> >

> > 1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the

> result

> > of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

> >

> > 2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus

will

> > aspect with malefic bindus.

> >

> > 3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet

> receive

> > points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider their

> > benefic points.

> >

> > What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the points

> only

> > for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where you

> had

> > said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to

reverse

> > its bindu.

> >

> > a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house with

2

> > bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and then

> take

> > its aspect.

> >

> > b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had

reversed

> > the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to

consider

> > 6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

> >

> > c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord placed

in

> > 12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have

considered

> > its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it

had

> 6

> > bindus.

> >

> > So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind

> computing

> > things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because

this

> > 6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

> >

> > I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is

also

> > getting confused.

> >

> > Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E

also

> > are eager to give results ?

> >

> > Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are

seeing

> > the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with

(like

> > boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10 relationship)

> that

> > will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring more

> > clarify to our thought process.

> >

> > Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are

very

> > busy.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > , krushna

> jugalkalani

> > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > One more information for you: When sixth lord

> > > is situated in any house with MORE points then

> > > considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> > > result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> > > of the houses it aspects.

> > > If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> > > the strength of that planet should not be considered

> > > for the result.

> > > krushna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

> > >

> > > I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> > > programs.

> > >

> > > Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> > > house or this

> > > particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> > > bindus obtained

> > > by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> > > its dristi.

> > >

> > > Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> > > all incorporated

> > > this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> > > understanding

> > > regarding this topic.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Margarita,

> > > > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> > > 6th lord being

> > > > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> > > bindus is showing

> > > > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> > > >

> > > > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> > > being placed in

> > > 6th

> > > > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> > > considering

> > > 6th

> > > > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> > > like we consider

> > > > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> > > if Shani were

> > > 6th

> > > > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> > > it as 6

> > > bindus

> > > > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> > > bindus then to

> > > > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> > > its aspects...

> > > >

> > > > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> > > reasoning

> > > this

> > > > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> > > after we finish

> > > > discussing Shivas chart.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> > > understood

> > > correctly.

> > > >

> > > > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> > > proper

> > > > understanding of this phenemon.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita, Ash, etc...

 

I'm a still a little confused with what the answer to the Rahu

samdharmi outcome was as given by Krushnaji. If Ketu is samdharmi

does Rahu fit the bill and also become samdharmi? I'm looking at a

chart of an Indian gov't official given in a book, he got married in

rahu sub but I don't see the connection. definately Ketu (Mars) seems

to be an extremely strong significator but I don't see how rahu gave

it - unless he acts in accordance with ketu (since in this case rahu

is in the nakshatra of ketu...so does the " samdharmiship " in this

case default to him (rahu)? I just can't see it.. data given below:

 

(male)

April 20. 1924

14:00

73E02, 26N17

 

 

date of marriage: Feb 23, 1957

 

- Puneet

, " krushanain "

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Sixth lord always gives reverse result then what is seen.

When

> any planet is with less points it's sight is benefic. But for sixth

> lord it will be reverse. It's presence in any house with more

points

> will reduce the result of that house. ( Except first house.)

> For getting the true effect I have suggested to consider

it's

> points as reverse. It means when it is having benefic sight on any

> house or planet, it will be malefic. For the same reason The points

> gained due to sixth lord should not be considered. Even Equal

points

> from the strength of the planet should be delated, and if still the

> power of the planet is more, then and then it will give the result.

> (it means for geting the actual strength of a planet getting

strength

> due to the sight of sixth lord, double the points should be delated

> to judge its strength for giving the result. ( double points to

> compensate the ill effect of sixth lord.)

> This is not applicable for 1st house.

> krushna

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji,

> > I understand that as per the system

> >

> > 1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the

> result

> > of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

> >

> > 2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus

will

> > aspect with malefic bindus.

> >

> > 3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet

> receive

> > points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider their

> > benefic points.

> >

> > What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the points

> only

> > for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where you

> had

> > said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to

reverse

> > its bindu.

> >

> > a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house with

2

> > bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and then

> take

> > its aspect.

> >

> > b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had

reversed

> > the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to

consider

> > 6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

> >

> > c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord placed

in

> > 12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have

considered

> > its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it

had

> 6

> > bindus.

> >

> > So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind

> computing

> > things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because

this

> > 6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

> >

> > I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is

also

> > getting confused.

> >

> > Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E

also

> > are eager to give results ?

> >

> > Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are

seeing

> > the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with

(like

> > boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10 relationship)

> that

> > will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring more

> > clarify to our thought process.

> >

> > Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are

very

> > busy.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > , krushna

> jugalkalani

> > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > One more information for you: When sixth lord

> > > is situated in any house with MORE points then

> > > considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> > > result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> > > of the houses it aspects.

> > > If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> > > the strength of that planet should not be considered

> > > for the result.

> > > krushna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

> > >

> > > I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> > > programs.

> > >

> > > Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> > > house or this

> > > particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> > > bindus obtained

> > > by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> > > its dristi.

> > >

> > > Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> > > all incorporated

> > > this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> > > understanding

> > > regarding this topic.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Margarita,

> > > > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> > > 6th lord being

> > > > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> > > bindus is showing

> > > > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> > > >

> > > > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> > > being placed in

> > > 6th

> > > > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> > > considering

> > > 6th

> > > > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> > > like we consider

> > > > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> > > if Shani were

> > > 6th

> > > > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> > > it as 6

> > > bindus

> > > > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> > > bindus then to

> > > > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> > > its aspects...

> > > >

> > > > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> > > reasoning

> > > this

> > > > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> > > after we finish

> > > > discussing Shivas chart.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> > > understood

> > > correctly.

> > > >

> > > > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> > > proper

> > > > understanding of this phenemon.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Puneet,

Good to hear from you.. very good question.

 

Rahu represents sign and nakshatra depositer.

 

Here Ketu represents Shani and Rahu

and Rahu represents Sun and Ketu.

 

So here Rahu and Ketu will represent the same planets as

 

Rahu = Sun and (Ketu = Shani) hence Rahu = Sun and Shani

Ketu = Shani and (Rahu = Sun) hence Ketu = Shani and Sun.

 

If you notice Shan and Sun both have lowest and 2nd lowest points

for 7th house. Marriage is delayed... It just happened after both

LOD and LOE i.e. Moon and Mars's antra in Rahus antra... Why ?

 

Check Venus to Sun distance .. its greater than 43 degrees its

45.563 degrees away.

 

This is one explanation with Leo lagna. Notice the degrees of

ascendent its 1 degrees 30 mins into Leo. Try to change the birth

time and then see if things match up. Other event would also be

helpful to see if things match up w.r.t. events.. .in any case..

good point..

 

When unhappy marriages are indicated such marriages can happen in

loweset significator of sub of 6th lord.

 

Here also check 1st / 7th points its 37/31. This person can be very

egoistic or stubborn..and supremely confident in what he does...

fixed opinion of thigns....

 

Try the same by chaning the time and check with other lagna...

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " sunnyjoshi25 "

<sunnyjoshi25> wrote:

> Dear Margarita, Ash, etc...

>

> I'm a still a little confused with what the answer to the Rahu

> samdharmi outcome was as given by Krushnaji. If Ketu is samdharmi

> does Rahu fit the bill and also become samdharmi? I'm looking at

a

> chart of an Indian gov't official given in a book, he got married

in

> rahu sub but I don't see the connection. definately Ketu (Mars)

seems

> to be an extremely strong significator but I don't see how rahu

gave

> it - unless he acts in accordance with ketu (since in this case

rahu

> is in the nakshatra of ketu...so does the " samdharmiship " in this

> case default to him (rahu)? I just can't see it.. data given below:

>

> (male)

> April 20. 1924

> 14:00

> 73E02, 26N17

>

>

> date of marriage: Feb 23, 1957

>

> - Puneet

> , " krushanain "

> <krushanain> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > Sixth lord always gives reverse result then what is seen.

> When

> > any planet is with less points it's sight is benefic. But for

sixth

> > lord it will be reverse. It's presence in any house with more

> points

> > will reduce the result of that house. ( Except first house.)

> > For getting the true effect I have suggested to consider

> it's

> > points as reverse. It means when it is having benefic sight on

any

> > house or planet, it will be malefic. For the same reason The

points

> > gained due to sixth lord should not be considered. Even Equal

> points

> > from the strength of the planet should be delated, and if still

the

> > power of the planet is more, then and then it will give the

result.

> > (it means for geting the actual strength of a planet getting

> strength

> > due to the sight of sixth lord, double the points should be

delated

> > to judge its strength for giving the result. ( double points to

> > compensate the ill effect of sixth lord.)

> > This is not applicable for 1st house.

> > krushna

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > I understand that as per the system

> > >

> > > 1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the

> > result

> > > of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

> > >

> > > 2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus

> will

> > > aspect with malefic bindus.

> > >

> > > 3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet

> > receive

> > > points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider

their

> > > benefic points.

> > >

> > > What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the

points

> > only

> > > for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where

you

> > had

> > > said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to

> reverse

> > > its bindu.

> > >

> > > a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house

with

> 2

> > > bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and

then

> > take

> > > its aspect.

> > >

> > > b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had

> reversed

> > > the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to

> consider

> > > 6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

> > >

> > > c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord

placed

> in

> > > 12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have

> considered

> > > its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it

> had

> > 6

> > > bindus.

> > >

> > > So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind

> > computing

> > > things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because

> this

> > > 6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

> > >

> > > I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is

> also

> > > getting confused.

> > >

> > > Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E

> also

> > > are eager to give results ?

> > >

> > > Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are

> seeing

> > > the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with

> (like

> > > boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10

relationship)

> > that

> > > will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring

more

> > > clarify to our thought process.

> > >

> > > Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are

> very

> > > busy.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , krushna

> > jugalkalani

> > > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > One more information for you: When sixth lord

> > > > is situated in any house with MORE points then

> > > > considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> > > > result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> > > > of the houses it aspects.

> > > > If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> > > > the strength of that planet should not be considered

> > > > for the result.

> > > > krushna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

> > > >

> > > > I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> > > > programs.

> > > >

> > > > Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> > > > house or this

> > > > particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> > > > bindus obtained

> > > > by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> > > > its dristi.

> > > >

> > > > Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> > > > all incorporated

> > > > this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> > > > understanding

> > > > regarding this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Margarita,

> > > > > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> > > > 6th lord being

> > > > > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> > > > bindus is showing

> > > > > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> > > > >

> > > > > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> > > > being placed in

> > > > 6th

> > > > > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> > > > considering

> > > > 6th

> > > > > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> > > > like we consider

> > > > > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> > > > if Shani were

> > > > 6th

> > > > > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> > > > it as 6

> > > > bindus

> > > > > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> > > > bindus then to

> > > > > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> > > > its aspects...

> > > > >

> > > > > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> > > > reasoning

> > > > this

> > > > > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> > > > after we finish

> > > > > discussing Shivas chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> > > > understood

> > > > correctly.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> > > > proper

> > > > > understanding of this phenemon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

Pranam,

Thank you very much for this detailed answer. I will have to study

what you have written and understand it more throughly.

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " krushanain "

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Members,

> If the sixth lord is Mars and situated in 6th, then it's

> sight on first house will not be malefic.

> krushna

>

> -- In , " krushanain "

> <krushanain> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > Sixth lord always gives reverse result then what is seen.

> When

> > any planet is with less points it's sight is benefic. But for

sixth

> > lord it will be reverse. It's presence in any house with more

> points

> > will reduce the result of that house. ( Except first house.)

> > For getting the true effect I have suggested to consider

> it's

> > points as reverse. It means when it is having benefic sight on

any

> > house or planet, it will be malefic. For the same reason The

points

> > gained due to sixth lord should not be considered. Even Equal

> points

> > from the strength of the planet should be delated, and if still

the

> > power of the planet is more, then and then it will give the

result.

> > (it means for geting the actual strength of a planet getting

> strength

> > due to the sight of sixth lord, double the points should be

delated

> > to judge its strength for giving the result. ( double points to

> > compensate the ill effect of sixth lord.)

> > This is not applicable for 1st house.

> > krushna

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > I understand that as per the system

> > >

> > > 1) Planet with high points i.e. More points will increase the

> > result

> > > of house it is placed in i.e. Considering that as House B.

> > >

> > > 2) Such planets have malefic sight. Planets with high bindus

> will

> > > aspect with malefic bindus.

> > >

> > > 3) I also understand that when we consider points any planet

> > receive

> > > points from 6th house or 12th from B we should not consider

their

> > > benefic points.

> > >

> > > What I do not understand is the phenemon of reversing the

points

> > only

> > > for 6th lord. We had discussed this point on the list where

you

> > had

> > > said that 6th lord in 6th house to consider that planet to

> reverse

> > > its bindu.

> > >

> > > a )So if say Planet X is 6th lord and is placed in 6th house

with

> 2

> > > bindus then to consider X as 8 - 2 bindus i.e. 6 bindus and

then

> > take

> > > its aspect.

> > >

> > > b) Then once I had considered 6th lord in lagna and I had

> reversed

> > > the bindus and you had told me .. not to do that.. only to

> consider

> > > 6th lord in 6th house that way... i..e reverse the binud

> > >

> > > c) In this case you have considered Shani who is 6th lord

placed

> in

> > > 12th house i.e. House E for 7th house as B and you have

> considered

> > > its bindus reversed i.e told to consider such a shani as if it

> had

> > 6

> > > bindus.

> > >

> > > So that is why I am getting confused. You are in your mind

> > computing

> > > things perfectly.. but I think we are getting confused because

> this

> > > 6th lord is really confusing and a real culprit.

> > >

> > > I hope you are understanding where I and I think Margarita is

> also

> > > getting confused.

> > >

> > > Also while at it.. Do planets with low points in House D or E

> also

> > > are eager to give results ?

> > >

> > > Can you give us a little more understanding of House you are

> seeing

> > > the chart and 6th house.. and any analogy if you come up with

> (like

> > > boss and subordinate you had given nicely for 4:10

relationship)

> > that

> > > will clear this 6th house and 6th lord matters ... and bring

more

> > > clarify to our thought process.

> > >

> > > Please do so when you get some spare time. I do know you are

> very

> > > busy.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , krushna

> > jugalkalani

> > > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > One more information for you: When sixth lord

> > > > is situated in any house with MORE points then

> > > > considering that house as " B " it will increase the

> > > > result of that house, but at the same time at the cost

> > > > of the houses it aspects.

> > > > If any planet gains points from sixth lord then

> > > > the strength of that planet should not be considered

> > > > for the result.

> > > > krushna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay, Phillippe and Dennis,

> > > >

> > > > I know you all have worked on the respective worksheet

> > > > programs.

> > > >

> > > > Have you all considered the effect of 6th lord in 6th

> > > > house or this

> > > > particular case of 6th lord by considering the 8 -

> > > > bindus obtained

> > > > by 6th lord and then considering its effect.... i.e.

> > > > its dristi.

> > > >

> > > > Are you all clear on this phenemon and how have you

> > > > all incorporated

> > > > this in your worksheets... please let me know your

> > > > understanding

> > > > regarding this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Margarita,

> > > > > Could you figure out why Krushnaji has considered

> > > > 6th lord being

> > > > > placed in 12th who is LOE for 7th house with 2

> > > > bindus is showing

> > > > > results as if it were with (8 minus 2 = 6 bindus).

> > > > >

> > > > > So far I was only considering that for 6th lord

> > > > being placed in

> > > > 6th

> > > > > house. This is interesting. I had also asked about

> > > > considering

> > > > 6th

> > > > > lord in other houses and it was to be considered

> > > > like we consider

> > > > > 6th lord in 6th house i.e. reverse the bindus. So

> > > > if Shani were

> > > > 6th

> > > > > lord and in 6th house with 2 bindus then to consider

> > > > it as 6

> > > > bindus

> > > > > or if Shani were in 6th house in own sign with 5

> > > > bindus then to

> > > > > consider that as 8 minus 5 = 3 bindus and consider

> > > > its aspects...

> > > > >

> > > > > This again does not close that topic .. Krushnaji is

> > > > reasoning

> > > > this

> > > > > different and I would like to discuss this topic

> > > > after we finish

> > > > > discussing Shivas chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to get this fundamental concept

> > > > understood

> > > > correctly.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think we should also consider some charts to get

> > > > proper

> > > > > understanding of this phenemon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >