Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Respecrted Krushna, You wrote the following : For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) My question : Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related to childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of the 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. Thanks and best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 dEAR mARGARITA, It is a typo in hurry. Please read it 2nd house in stead of first. thanks krushna , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respecrted Krushna, > You wrote the following : > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > My question : > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related to > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of the > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > Thanks and best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Dear Margarita, Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and E. It will get clear. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respecrted Krushna, > You wrote the following : > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > My question : > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related to > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of the > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > Thanks and best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Hello Ash, I'm not getting this clear. I imagine there is a huge mathematical scheme behind conception and birth. Taking the conception date of my own children (don't of course remember but take position of the Moon) I see the following for the 12th house 1st child conceived with Moon in house D and Sun in house B 2nd child conceived with Moon and Sun in house A 3th child concceived with Moon in house C and Sun in house B This conception date (I repeat)is taken from date of birth of the children when Moon is in same constellation. I never noticed this before. Interesting !!!! but only one house D involved. Of course, these 3 examples are not enough to prove something. Let me know if you have found out more Best regards, Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and > E. It will get clear. > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respecrted Krushna, > > You wrote the following : > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > My question : > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related > to > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > the > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Dear Margarita, Sorry my appologies. My mail was not clear. I was talking about timing of transit of Moon from each house. Say if the MC of the girl starts when Moon is in ascendent then check how much days it will take for Moon to transit to House D or E. I think between the time the moon is transitting from house D to E there are chances of conception. I think that was what my understanding was.... Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I'm not getting this clear. I imagine there is a huge mathematical > scheme behind conception and birth. Taking the conception date of my > own children (don't of course remember but take position of the Moon) I > see the following for the 12th house > 1st child conceived with Moon in house D and Sun in house B > 2nd child conceived with Moon and Sun in house A > 3th child concceived with Moon in house C and Sun in house B > This conception date (I repeat)is taken from date of birth of the > children when Moon is in same constellation. > I never noticed this before. Interesting !!!! but only one house D involved. > Of course, these 3 examples are not enough to prove something. > Let me know if you have found out more > Best regards, > Margarita > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Margarita, > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and > > E. It will get clear. > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , margarita lettens > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > My question : > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related > > to > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > > the > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > > Thanks and best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 OK Ash, I got it. this is thus seen when conception can take place. Interesting indeed. This then becomes the perfect tool for having a child and also to choose the sex of the child according to the list we receivied in the lessons on childbirth. Well, for those listmembers still concerned, it could be worth to study that !!!! Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > Sorry my appologies. My mail was not clear. I was talking about > timing of transit of Moon from each house. Say if the MC of the girl > starts when Moon is in ascendent then check how much days it will > take for Moon to transit to House D or E. I think between the time > the moon is transitting from house D to E there are chances of > conception. I think that was what my understanding was.... > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > I'm not getting this clear. I imagine there is a huge mathematical > > scheme behind conception and birth. Taking the conception date of > my > > own children (don't of course remember but take position of the > Moon) I > > see the following for the 12th house > > 1st child conceived with Moon in house D and Sun in house B > > 2nd child conceived with Moon and Sun in house A > > 3th child concceived with Moon in house C and Sun in house B > > This conception date (I repeat)is taken from date of birth of the > > children when Moon is in same constellation. > > I never noticed this before. Interesting !!!! but only one house D > involved. > > Of course, these 3 examples are not enough to prove something. > > Let me know if you have found out more > > Best regards, > > Margarita > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory > behind > > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach > those > > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for > conception. > > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit > of > > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D > and > > > E. It will get clear. > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , margarita lettens > > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male > child and > > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on > more > > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > > > My question : > > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he > related > > > to > > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > > > the > > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how this works. Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels about 246°(I checked this for this month of august) The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we should take 2 days before and two days after so that make 5 days approximatively in the middle of those 28 days. So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during which women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be 105° after de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to look at the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. I think I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . We'll see when you have time Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and > E. It will get clear. > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respecrted Krushna, > > You wrote the following : > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > My question : > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related > to > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > the > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Dear Margarita, What you say makes sense... but I distinctly remember Krushnaji explaining to me and it happened fast.. at that point I thought I understood.. but I do remember its got to do with Transit of Moon and the proper days .. and I also remember Krushnaji saying.. that our Maharishis had so much meaning when they came up with 2nd and 10th house for children as D and E for male... then he had gone on to tell me that if conception happens in 10th lords antra then child born in Male.. and that he had checked with a few chart and it was right but he had not checked on thousands of charts which is what is checked .. I am also thinking about it.. my point was to put these things that I had in my mind.. that I thought was important on the list.. so that we call could think and brain storm on these facts.. somethings I remember and some things I know was said.. but my knowledge level was not upto it.. thats why at some places Krusnaji had told me to hold off as I was not ready.. and I would only get myself confused... I shall think more about this.. and at the end .. if we can't figure this one out.. we'll ask Krushnaji... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how this works. > Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels about > 246°(I checked this for this month of august) > The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we should take 2 > days before and two days after so that make 5 days approximatively in > the middle of those 28 days. > So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during which > women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be 105° after > de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. > I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to look at > the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. I think > I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . > We'll see when you have time > Best regards > Margarita > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Margarita, > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and > > E. It will get clear. > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , margarita lettens > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > My question : > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related > > to > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > > the > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > > Thanks and best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Dear Margarita, Ash, and other List members, The Moon travels 360 degrees in 27.25 days. 360 degrees means one complete circle in 12 sign. Same is the Women's cycle for M.C. (it is not 246 degrees) I explained Ash as Fallows: When a woman have her M.C. Find out the Sign in which Moon is situated on that day. Consider that sign as Lagna. Then when Moon travels four signs (9 Nakshatra) it is in the fifth house, ( aproximately 10 Days, on 11th day it is in 5th house) Fifth house denotes Child birth. So after 11days from M.C. Female can have conception. This can be possible only when the house in which M.C. starts, must not have any effect of Mars or Rahu. So any women wishes to have child, must observe the first day of M.C. A healthy woman can have her M.C. in the same nakshatra every month. In case it falls in the house which is effected by Mars/Rahu, she should change the timing of period using birth control pills. Once the M.C. started in proper house, then from 11th day (5th house) (travel of Moon in 10th Nakshatra 16th Nakshatra is the period can have furtile. The Women beej prepaired in the house where no effect of mars/ or Rahu is there is good for healthy fertility. The travel of Moon in 5th house ( house of child) and 6th house (house A for Child birth in female chart) is the proper period for fertility of Stree beej.(Woman egg). The dasha must be favoring child birth. Dasha of 10th house lord ( LOE)or it's samdharmi can give male child. The points in 3,6,10 and 11th are in rising order in male chart then genral;ly first child is female. The dasha in both the charts (male and female) must be favouring for Child birth. There should not be Zero in 9th house in both the charts. Similar things I was explaining to Ash, It was in hurry. Ash might have confused with some other thing, might have been told at the same time. This thing explained on the last day, time was short. He was having so many questions. So it is a result of confusion. If mars is situated in house D or E,(2nd and 10th) there is more chances for miscarriage. If rahu is in 1st, 9th or 11th similar result can be expected. The houses A,B,C,D and E and nakshtra in those houses are good for conception. So the M.C. should be in the 9th house from these houses. Sorry Ash, in Hurry, it created some confusion. krushna --- margarita lettens <dmlettens wrote: Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how this works. Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels about 246°(I checked this for this month of august) The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we should take 2 days before and two days after so that make 5 days approximatively in the middle of those 28 days. So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during which women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be 105° after de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to look at the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. I think I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . We'll see when you have time Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory behind > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach those > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for conception. > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit of > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D and > E. It will get clear. > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respecrted Krushna, > > You wrote the following : > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male child and > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on more > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > My question : > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he related > to > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > the > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Hello Ash, I've been thinking agaiin. Of course it's not easy because we don't know if we are off the mark but anyway. This is what happens : Female cycle is 28 days between each period. On day 14 an egg travels from the ovaries to the uterus were it can come into contact with sperm and being fertilised . This sperm can either be already present because sperm survives a few days so it soesn't matter which come first egg or sperm. Or sperm can come at the same time or later. Now lets imagine that female period starts in 0° Aries. 14 days later when the egg arrives at the right place to be fertilised the Moon will have travelled 123° approx. Counting from 0° Aries, that will be in the first degrees of Leo. Considering Aries as B the the Moon will have travelled to C and perhaps fertility period lasts until Moon is in E ?? Probably we will have to ask Krushna again, if he has time to look in these matters. I feel there must be something else. It's also possible that I have forgotten a bit about all that ... Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > What you say makes sense... but I distinctly remember Krushnaji > explaining to me and it happened fast.. at that point I thought I > understood.. but I do remember its got to do with Transit of Moon and > the proper days .. and I also remember Krushnaji saying.. that our > Maharishis had so much meaning when they came up with 2nd and 10th > house for children as D and E for male... then he had gone on to tell > me that if conception happens in 10th lords antra then child born in > Male.. and that he had checked with a few chart and it was right but > he had not checked on thousands of charts which is what is checked .. > > I am also thinking about it.. my point was to put these things that I > had in my mind.. that I thought was important on the list.. so that > we call could think and brain storm on these facts.. somethings I > remember and some things I know was said.. but my knowledge level was > not upto it.. thats why at some places Krusnaji had told me to hold > off as I was not ready.. and I would only get myself confused... > > I shall think more about this.. and at the end .. if we can't figure > this one out.. we'll ask Krushnaji... > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how > this works. > > Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels about > > 246°(I checked this for this month of august) > > The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we should > take 2 > > days before and two days after so that make 5 days approximatively > in > > the middle of those 28 days. > > So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during > which > > women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be 105° > after > > de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. > > I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to > look at > > the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. I > think > > I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . > > We'll see when you have time > > Best regards > > Margarita > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory > behind > > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach > those > > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for > conception. > > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit > of > > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D > and > > > E. It will get clear. > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , margarita lettens > > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male > child and > > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on > more > > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > > > My question : > > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he > related > > > to > > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > > > the > > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Dear Margarita, Ash, and other members, I have posted one mail, on this topic. It is not reached. If it will not reach, I will answer again. thanks krushna , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I've been thinking agaiin. Of course it's not easy because we don't know > if we are off the mark but anyway. > This is what happens : Female cycle is 28 days between each period. > On day 14 an egg travels from the ovaries to the uterus were it can come > into contact with sperm and being fertilised . This sperm can either be > already present because sperm survives a few days so it soesn't matter > which come first egg or sperm. Or sperm can come at the same time or later. > Now lets imagine that female period starts in 0° Aries. > 14 days later when the egg arrives at the right place to be fertilised > the Moon will have travelled 123° approx. Counting from 0° Aries, that > will be in the first degrees of Leo. Considering Aries as B the the Moon > will have travelled to C and perhaps fertility period lasts until Moon > is in E ?? > Probably we will have to ask Krushna again, if he has time to look in > these matters. I feel there must be something else. It's also possible > that I have forgotten a bit about all that ... > Best regards > Margarita > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Margarita, > > What you say makes sense... but I distinctly remember Krushnaji > > explaining to me and it happened fast.. at that point I thought I > > understood.. but I do remember its got to do with Transit of Moon and > > the proper days .. and I also remember Krushnaji saying.. that our > > Maharishis had so much meaning when they came up with 2nd and 10th > > house for children as D and E for male... then he had gone on to tell > > me that if conception happens in 10th lords antra then child born in > > Male.. and that he had checked with a few chart and it was right but > > he had not checked on thousands of charts which is what is checked .. > > > > I am also thinking about it.. my point was to put these things that I > > had in my mind.. that I thought was important on the list.. so that > > we call could think and brain storm on these facts.. somethings I > > remember and some things I know was said.. but my knowledge level was > > not upto it.. thats why at some places Krusnaji had told me to hold > > off as I was not ready.. and I would only get myself confused... > > > > I shall think more about this.. and at the end .. if we can't figure > > this one out.. we'll ask Krushnaji... > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , margarita lettens > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how > > this works. > > > Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels about > > > 246°(I checked this for this month of august) > > > The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we should > > take 2 > > > days before and two days after so that make 5 days approximatively > > in > > > the middle of those 28 days. > > > So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during > > which > > > women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be 105° > > after > > > de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. > > > I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to > > look at > > > the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. I > > think > > > I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . > > > We'll see when you have time > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory > > behind > > > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days and > > > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will reach > > those > > > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for > > conception. > > > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to think > > > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the transit > > of > > > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit House D > > and > > > > E. It will get clear. > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , margarita lettens > > > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male > > child and > > > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not checked on > > more > > > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > > > > > My question : > > > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he > > related > > > > to > > > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the lord of > > > > the > > > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting indeed. > > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Oh thank you Krushna, perhaps it will turn up. At leat things will be clear then Best regards Margarita krushanain wrote: > Dear Margarita, Ash, and other members, > I have posted one mail, on this topic. It is not reached. If > it will not reach, I will answer again. > thanks > krushna > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > I've been thinking agaiin. Of course it's not easy because we don't > know > > if we are off the mark but anyway. > > This is what happens : Female cycle is 28 days between each period. > > On day 14 an egg travels from the ovaries to the uterus were it can > come > > into contact with sperm and being fertilised . This sperm can > either be > > already present because sperm survives a few days so it soesn't > matter > > which come first egg or sperm. Or sperm can come at the same time > or later. > > Now lets imagine that female period starts in 0° Aries. > > 14 days later when the egg arrives at the right place to be > fertilised > > the Moon will have travelled 123° approx. Counting from 0° Aries, > that > > will be in the first degrees of Leo. Considering Aries as B the the > Moon > > will have travelled to C and perhaps fertility period lasts until > Moon > > is in E ?? > > Probably we will have to ask Krushna again, if he has time to look > in > > these matters. I feel there must be something else. It's also > possible > > that I have forgotten a bit about all that ... > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > What you say makes sense... but I distinctly remember Krushnaji > > > explaining to me and it happened fast.. at that point I thought I > > > understood.. but I do remember its got to do with Transit of Moon > and > > > the proper days .. and I also remember Krushnaji saying.. that our > > > Maharishis had so much meaning when they came up with 2nd and 10th > > > house for children as D and E for male... then he had gone on to > tell > > > me that if conception happens in 10th lords antra then child born > in > > > Male.. and that he had checked with a few chart and it was right > but > > > he had not checked on thousands of charts which is what is > checked .. > > > > > > I am also thinking about it.. my point was to put these things > that I > > > had in my mind.. that I thought was important on the list.. so > that > > > we call could think and brain storm on these facts.. somethings I > > > remember and some things I know was said.. but my knowledge level > was > > > not upto it.. thats why at some places Krusnaji had told me to > hold > > > off as I was not ready.. and I would only get myself confused... > > > > > > I shall think more about this.. and at the end .. if we can't > figure > > > this one out.. we'll ask Krushnaji... > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , margarita lettens > > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see very well how > > > this works. > > > > Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon travels > about > > > > 246°(I checked this for this month of august) > > > > The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period and we > should > > > take 2 > > > > days before and two days after so that make 5 days > approximatively > > > in > > > > the middle of those 28 days. > > > > So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = 44° during > > > which > > > > women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should then be > 105° > > > after > > > > de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. > > > > I don't know if you follow. From this I don't understand how to > > > look at > > > > the Moon of conception and then see when it hits houses D or E. > I > > > think > > > > I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . > > > > We'll see when you have time > > > > Best regards > > > > Margarita > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a huge theory > > > behind > > > > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time (in days > and > > > > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it will > reach > > > those > > > > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready for > > > conception. > > > > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still need to > think > > > > > more on this. If you have some time start to compute the > transit > > > of > > > > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of Moon of > > > > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it hit > House D > > > and > > > > > E. It will get clear. > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , margarita > lettens > > > > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are having special > > > > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord gives male > > > child and > > > > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have not > checked on > > > more > > > > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and found correct) > > > > > > > > > > > > My question : > > > > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems quite clear > > > > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, how is he > > > related > > > > > to > > > > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception in the > lord of > > > > > the > > > > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems interesting > indeed. > > > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Pranam, Yes I got confused... but I did know that you had told me something very important in regards to this concept and moons transit to 5th house ... I did get confused though.. sorry... In any case now this will benefit list member and now I shall also remember it well. Its not documented and will be in the archives. I think this part of the mail also should be added to the lesson on Childbirth so its remembered. Yes, I had many questions.. and all of which you have answered. Thanking you for clarifying, Cheers !!! Ash , krushna jugalkalani <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Margarita, Ash, and other List members, > > The Moon travels 360 degrees in 27.25 days. 360 > degrees means one complete circle in 12 sign. Same is > the Women's cycle for M.C. (it is not 246 degrees) > I explained Ash as Fallows: > When a woman have her M.C. Find out the Sign in > which Moon is situated on that day. Consider that sign > as Lagna. Then when Moon travels four signs (9 > Nakshatra) it is in the fifth house, ( aproximately 10 > Days, on 11th day it is in 5th house) Fifth house > denotes Child birth. So after 11days from M.C. Female > can have conception. > This can be possible only when the house in > which M.C. starts, must not have any effect of Mars or > Rahu. So any women wishes to have child, must observe > the first day of M.C. A healthy woman can have her > M.C. in the same nakshatra every month. In case it > falls in the house which is effected by Mars/Rahu, she > should change the timing of period using birth control > pills. Once the M.C. started in proper house, then > from 11th day (5th house) (travel of Moon in 10th > Nakshatra 16th Nakshatra is the period can have > furtile. The Women beej prepaired in the house where > no effect of mars/ or Rahu is there is good for > healthy fertility. > The travel of Moon in 5th house ( house of > child) and 6th house (house A for Child birth in > female chart) is the proper period for fertility of > Stree beej.(Woman egg). > The dasha must be favoring child birth. Dasha > of 10th house lord ( LOE)or it's samdharmi can give > male child. > The points in 3,6,10 and 11th are in rising > order in male chart then genral;ly first child is > female. The dasha in both the charts (male and female) > must be favouring for Child birth. > There should not be Zero in 9th house in both > the charts. > Similar things I was explaining to Ash, It > was in hurry. Ash might have confused with some other > thing, might have been told at the same time. This > thing explained on the last day, time was short. He > was having so many questions. So it is a result of > confusion. > If mars is situated in house D or E,(2nd and > 10th) there is more chances for miscarriage. If rahu > is in 1st, 9th or 11th similar result can be expected. > The houses A,B,C,D and E and nakshtra in those > houses are good for conception. So the M.C. should be > in the 9th house from these houses. > Sorry Ash, in Hurry, it created some > confusion. > krushna > --- margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello Ash, I pick up this mail again but don't see > very well how this works. > Women's cycle is 28 days. During this period the Moon > travels about > 246°(I checked this for this month of august) > The middle of this cycle is the most fertile period > and we should take 2 > days before and two days after so that make 5 days > approximatively in > the middle of those 28 days. > So this should be then 246° x 5 = 1230°; 1230° : 28 = > 44° during which > women is fertile or sign and 14°. This sign should > then be 105° after > de MC period or 3 signs and 15°. > I don't know if you follow. From this I don't > understand how to look at > the Moon of conception and then see when it hits > houses D or E. I think > I'm a bit confused here or I don't get your meaning . > We'll see when you have time > Best regards > Margarita > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Margarita, > > Krushnaji had mentioned briefly that there was a > huge theory behind > > House D and E for child birth. I think if you time > (in days and > > hours) how moon travels after the start of MC how it > will reach those > > houses D and E only and then the woman becomes ready > for conception. > > Something like that was mentioned briefly. I still > need to think > > more on this. If you have some time start to > compute the transit of > > Moon and take the starting point as the nakshatra of > Moon of > > conception and see how Moon travels and when does it > hit House D and > > E. It will get clear. > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > margarita lettens > > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respecrted Krushna, > > > You wrote the following : > > > > > > For female chart lords of 10th and first are > having special > > > effect. (for male chart conception in 10th lord > gives male child and > > > for female chart, female child, This law, I have > not checked on more > > > charts, Only on very few charts I checked and > found correct) > > > > > > My question : > > > Lord of the 10th is LOE for the 5th; this seems > quite clear > > > What is the role of the lord of the 1st ????????, > how is he related > > to > > > childbirth not being lord A,B or C, nor LOD or LOE > ?????? > > > > > > I will try to check this law about the conception > in the lord of > > the > > > 10th for male and female chart; this seems > interesting indeed. > > > Thanks and best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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