Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Respected Krushna, Tushar posted this chart about somebody who wants to marry and seems to be " rejected " . Now I understand the cultural context of this but I don't understand why. DOB : 22-March-1975 TOB : 21:17 PM (Evening) POB : RAJKOT (GUJRAT) (INDIA) 22:17:N , 70:49:E Time Zone + 05:30 To make things easy : rasi : asc 11°28 Libra - Sun 8°54 Pisces - Moon 2°17 Cancer - Mars 22°10 Capricorn - Mercury 16°17 Aquarius - Jupiter 8°27 Pisces - Saturn 19°30 Gemini - Rahu 11°49 Scorpio navansa Asc capricorn - Mercury Aquarius - Saturn Pisces - Ketu Aries -Moon/Mars/Venus Cancer - Jupiter/Sun Virgo. This chart is interesting because the special relationship between Mars/Venus/Moon who have 4/10 relationship. This group Mars/Venus/Moon is in the 7th navamsa. Venus is karak for the 1st and Mars is karak for the 7th. Several points indicate more relationships (seems not true ??) If you have time could you comment on this chart please. Even if there are no rules that exclude marriage, I have the impression that probably native will not marry or that marriage is problematic. Best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Dear Margarita, One rule given was that if 6th lord (Guru in this case) is aspecting 10th house and 2nd house. LOD and LOE for 5th house. Even if the native has romance it will probably not get converted to marriage. I think that was given somewhere in the lesson of love marriages. The native has 33 points in lagna so the native can be very confident of things he does. I am however not getting that much delay for his marriage. Infact this person should have gotten married in Merc/Merc i.e 1995/06 thru 1997/11 ?? Shani is in 9th house and does not aspect Mars who is LOA and LOB in Rasi or Navamsa. Even Shani is in sign of Guru in navamsa so that cannot give any delay ??? Unless I am overlooking something .. I am not getting any satisfactory reasoning for that much delay. A very good chart... indeed if the birth time is right then Krushnaji can help us... to why there was so much delay ??? Can Tushar post some other event of his life so that we can check the validity of birth time ??? I wonder how accurate is the birth time ??? Thanking you, Cheers !!! ASh , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > Tushar posted this chart about somebody who wants to marry and seems to > be " rejected " . Now I understand the cultural context of this but I don't > understand why. > DOB : 22-March-1975 > TOB : 21:17 PM (Evening) > POB : RAJKOT (GUJRAT) (INDIA) 22:17:N , 70:49:E > Time Zone + 05:30 > To make things easy : > rasi : asc 11°28 Libra - Sun 8°54 Pisces - Moon 2°17 Cancer - Mars 22°10 > Capricorn - Mercury 16°17 Aquarius - Jupiter 8°27 Pisces - Saturn 19°30 > Gemini - Rahu 11°49 Scorpio > navansa Asc capricorn - Mercury Aquarius - Saturn Pisces - Ketu Aries > -Moon/Mars/Venus Cancer - Jupiter/Sun Virgo. > This chart is interesting because the special relationship between > Mars/Venus/Moon who have 4/10 relationship. This group Mars/Venus/Moon > is in the 7th navamsa. > Venus is karak for the 1st and Mars is karak for the 7th. > Several points indicate more relationships (seems not true ??) > If you have time could you comment on this chart please. Even if there > are no rules that exclude marriage, I have the impression that probably > native will not marry or that marriage is problematic. > Best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Yes Ash, I agree about the delay but somehow I feel there must be something with this Mars/Moon/Venus business. We'll see. Let's hope Krushna has time to look at this. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Margarita, > > One rule given was that if 6th lord (Guru in this case) is aspecting > 10th house and 2nd house. LOD and LOE for 5th house. Even if the > native has romance it will probably not get converted to marriage. I > think that was given somewhere in the lesson of love marriages. > > The native has 33 points in lagna so the native can be very confident > of things he does. > > I am however not getting that much delay for his marriage. Infact > this person should have gotten married in Merc/Merc i.e 1995/06 thru > 1997/11 ?? > > Shani is in 9th house and does not aspect Mars who is LOA and LOB in > Rasi or Navamsa. Even Shani is in sign of Guru in navamsa so that > cannot give any delay ??? > > Unless I am overlooking something .. I am not getting any > satisfactory reasoning for that much delay. > > A very good chart... indeed if the birth time is right then Krushnaji > can help us... to why there was so much delay ??? > > Can Tushar post some other event of his life so that we can check the > validity of birth time ??? > > I wonder how accurate is the birth time ??? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > ASh > > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, > > Tushar posted this chart about somebody who wants to marry and > seems to > > be " rejected " . Now I understand the cultural context of this but I > don't > > understand why. > > DOB : 22-March-1975 > > TOB : 21:17 PM (Evening) > > POB : RAJKOT (GUJRAT) (INDIA) 22:17:N , 70:49:E > > Time Zone + 05:30 > > To make things easy : > > rasi : asc 11°28 Libra - Sun 8°54 Pisces - Moon 2°17 Cancer - Mars > 22°10 > > Capricorn - Mercury 16°17 Aquarius - Jupiter 8°27 Pisces - Saturn > 19°30 > > Gemini - Rahu 11°49 Scorpio > > navansa Asc capricorn - Mercury Aquarius - Saturn Pisces - Ketu > Aries > > -Moon/Mars/Venus Cancer - Jupiter/Sun Virgo. > > This chart is interesting because the special relationship between > > Mars/Venus/Moon who have 4/10 relationship. This group > Mars/Venus/Moon > > is in the 7th navamsa. > > Venus is karak for the 1st and Mars is karak for the 7th. > > Several points indicate more relationships (seems not true ??) > > If you have time could you comment on this chart please. Even if > there > > are no rules that exclude marriage, I have the impression that > probably > > native will not marry or that marriage is problematic. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Hi Ash, Just something I read just recently may be of interest. I have and still do study Uranian and in Uranian they advise never to accept the given birth time. They always rectify any chart before working on it. One Uranian astrologer specialises in rectification and says that on one occasion out of 50 birth certificates recieved only one didn't need rectifying. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Dear Peter, Thanks for this information. I fully agree with you and what you have said. That is why on the opening statement of the list its been written to give the details of past event so that we can check it. Some of the list members did adhear to it and gave the details and then we could quite easily see the events fitting in or not. Its always a good idea to give past events so members trying to attempt to answer questions on specific chart can see if events fit in. Lots of astrogers from different schools of thoughts use different ayanamsa, different houses for different things (for example 3rd for mother vs 4th for mother, 9th for father or 10th for father) all these things can make a drastic imact of planets especially if on borderline. Therefore it becomes very critical for past events to be given so that all these things can be verified based on whatever system of prediction one chooses. All astrologers should also keep an open mind. Just because things are different does not make them wrong. Just different.... Thanks for the note Peter, Always good to hear from you and your words of wisdom.. Cheers !!! Ash , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Hi Ash, > Just something I read just recently may be of interest. I have and still do > study Uranian and in Uranian they advise never to accept the given birth > time. They always rectify any chart before working on it. One Uranian > astrologer specialises in rectification and says that on one occasion out of > 50 birth certificates recieved only one didn't need rectifying. > > Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 Thanks Ash, For your words of wisdom. I would just like to add that I have recently been studying Western Ancient Horary method swhich is very interesting. The main point of interest to you however is that there has just been an extensive debate on which house means mother and which means father. The general conclusion at the end )quoting from Lilly, Bonatti and other ancient and medieval astrologers is that the Father is represented by the 4th house and the mother by the 10th. This is of course completely opposite to what I learned and I still tend to use them the other way roud. I believe from memory that it is also opposite to what Astakavarga teaches. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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