Re:charts for professional questions - Chart 2

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji, Philippe, Margarita and list members,

 

1) Obtained degree in 1975. Antra of Shani. Again shani has low

points for 5th house ???

 

2) First full time Job : 1977. When Mercury antra started. Mercury

is LOE for 6th house and has highest points.. so fits in very well.

 

Since Mercury is LOE and itself is giving results then result will

happen in 1st 1/3rd sector here in this chart there is a 0 too so

native must have got job in 2nd sector.... Can you confirm when he

got his job.. I think 2nd 1/3rd sector falls in 1978 jan or feb or

so... So can you please tell me when the native actually got this

full time job ?????

 

3) Interruption happened in 1979/80 i.e. in Ketu antra. Ketu

represents Venus and Sun. Venus has less points for 6th house and

Sun has 19 points so if the person was totally unemployed then I have

a problem understanding this antra... Is it because Sun is aspecting

6th house which is House B and itself cannot give result ????????

Krushnaji can you please explain this antra.. and I am not getting a

defnitite answer here...

 

4) Took a stab at becomign a professional astrologer and then reutned

to work till June 1985.

 

This goes from antra of Venus, Sun and Moon.

 

I guess Venus is Samdharmi to Shani so despite having low points for

6th house it still gave something.. then after that more stability in

Moon and Sun as they have 12 and 15 points in 5th house so more

authority... so job will be maintained....

 

5) For relation start in Nov 1987 falls in Jupiter/Rahu antra. Rahu

represents Mars and Shani. Both have low points for 5th as well as

12th house.. Only thing I can see is Shani being samdharmi to Venus

prolly can give result.. but it could be only serious if that happens

after 1988/12.... as a relationship.. I mean getting closer...

I dont know what the real facts are.... if it happened in Guru/Rahu

antra then I am not getting any satisfactory answer.... Maybe

Krushnaji if he has time to go through this chart can guide us.

 

6) DBCE points are in zig zag manner so service is better indicated..

being an astrologer is a service and not business as one is charging

money for intellectual property and not like a grocery store where

one investes money and then gets return.. this can be considered as a

service...

 

Thanks for this chart...

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

>

> n°2: the native got his final degree for high school studies in

1975. He was

> then accepted to prepare for being a teacher ( primary school

pupils). While

> he was still a student, had a 3 month training period (September to

December

> 1976). During his studies, he got a salary. First full time job in

1977.

> Worked as a teacher for mentally retarded children. Interrupted in

1979/1980

> because of military service.In July 1981, made an attempt to work

as a

> professional astrologer in Paris. Then resumed his former job in

1982 until

> June 1985. Then began to work as an astrologer till now.

> If we look at the chart, first job was in Jupiter/Mercury. Mercury

activates

> 2nd house (money) as LOD and 6th house (job) as LOE. It is also

lord of

> VIII=D for B=XI (income). First attempt as an astrologer was in

> Jupiter/Venus. Venus is LOD for B=X but in navamsa it is conjunct

to 9th

> lord (12th from X) so I guess the time was not favorable. He

settled as an

> astrologer in Jupiter/Mars. Mars has low points for VI (end of

former job)

> and X (he had to re-start his career in a different field). As lord

of VI it

> is aspecting tenth house.

> Margarita, I think you're right about studies because the final

exam in high

> school was passed when he was nearly 19 (so one year later than

average).

> There must have been some delay. He has no children.

> Ash, you're right, he's not married but has had a long lasting

relationship

> since November 1987 up to now (no commonlife). It began in

Jupiter/Rahu.

> Jupiter is FK for 7th house, Rahu is samdharmi to Saturn LOD. As for

> marriage, 6th lord aspecting lords of A, B, and C and houses B and

C denies

> marriage I think. About income, the most difficult period was his

first

> attempt as an astrologer in Jupiter/Venus (at least I think so).

Maybe

> because Venus is in X (12th from XI) aspected by 6th lord.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash, Margarita, Philippe, and Listy members,

4th house indicates knowledge, (Training in some special

field, bachler in teaching, some skill work courses, welders,

fitters, turners, machine operators, etc will be covered by 4th

house.

5th house is 2nd of 4th house. It indicates the degree from

the knowledge. But such degree must be similar to M.B.B.S.,

Engineering bachler Degree, Degree in Commerce etc. ( Such degree

should be such that it should be applied to general field.) Any

special degree in some special field ( Limited knowledge) may not be

seen from 5th house.

Again P.Hd or similar master degrees must be refered from

9th house. (6th from 4th)For 9th house 4th is Karak, knowlege gives

the result of 9th house.

For the chart 2 what type of degree the person is having is

important. If it a training to teach mentally retarded it may not be

called as degree. If it is some thing special 9th house may be

considered.

For your other questions, I have to look at the chart.

I will answer later.

thanks

krushna

 

-- In , " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji, Philippe, Margarita and list members,

>

> 1) Obtained degree in 1975. Antra of Shani. Again shani has low

> points for 5th house ???

>

> 2) First full time Job : 1977. When Mercury antra started.

Mercury

> is LOE for 6th house and has highest points.. so fits in very well.

>

> Since Mercury is LOE and itself is giving results then result will

> happen in 1st 1/3rd sector here in this chart there is a 0 too so

> native must have got job in 2nd sector.... Can you confirm when he

> got his job.. I think 2nd 1/3rd sector falls in 1978 jan or feb or

> so... So can you please tell me when the native actually got this

> full time job ?????

>

> 3) Interruption happened in 1979/80 i.e. in Ketu antra. Ketu

> represents Venus and Sun. Venus has less points for 6th house and

> Sun has 19 points so if the person was totally unemployed then I

have

> a problem understanding this antra... Is it because Sun is

aspecting

> 6th house which is House B and itself cannot give result ????????

> Krushnaji can you please explain this antra.. and I am not getting

a

> defnitite answer here...

>

> 4) Took a stab at becomign a professional astrologer and then

reutned

> to work till June 1985.

>

> This goes from antra of Venus, Sun and Moon.

>

> I guess Venus is Samdharmi to Shani so despite having low points

for

> 6th house it still gave something.. then after that more stability

in

> Moon and Sun as they have 12 and 15 points in 5th house so more

> authority... so job will be maintained....

>

> 5) For relation start in Nov 1987 falls in Jupiter/Rahu antra.

Rahu

> represents Mars and Shani. Both have low points for 5th as well as

> 12th house.. Only thing I can see is Shani being samdharmi to

Venus

> prolly can give result.. but it could be only serious if that

happens

> after 1988/12.... as a relationship.. I mean getting closer...

> I dont know what the real facts are.... if it happened in Guru/Rahu

> antra then I am not getting any satisfactory answer.... Maybe

> Krushnaji if he has time to go through this chart can guide us.

>

> 6) DBCE points are in zig zag manner so service is better

indicated..

> being an astrologer is a service and not business as one is

charging

> money for intellectual property and not like a grocery store where

> one investes money and then gets return.. this can be considered as

a

> service...

>

> Thanks for this chart...

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> >

> > n°2: the native got his final degree for high school studies in

> 1975. He was

> > then accepted to prepare for being a teacher ( primary school

> pupils). While

> > he was still a student, had a 3 month training period (September

to

> December

> > 1976). During his studies, he got a salary. First full time job

in

> 1977.

> > Worked as a teacher for mentally retarded children. Interrupted

in

> 1979/1980

> > because of military service.In July 1981, made an attempt to work

> as a

> > professional astrologer in Paris. Then resumed his former job in

> 1982 until

> > June 1985. Then began to work as an astrologer till now.

> > If we look at the chart, first job was in Jupiter/Mercury.

Mercury

> activates

> > 2nd house (money) as LOD and 6th house (job) as LOE. It is also

> lord of

> > VIII=D for B=XI (income). First attempt as an astrologer was in

> > Jupiter/Venus. Venus is LOD for B=X but in navamsa it is conjunct

> to 9th

> > lord (12th from X) so I guess the time was not favorable. He

> settled as an

> > astrologer in Jupiter/Mars. Mars has low points for VI (end of

> former job)

> > and X (he had to re-start his career in a different field). As

lord

> of VI it

> > is aspecting tenth house.

> > Margarita, I think you're right about studies because the final

> exam in high

> > school was passed when he was nearly 19 (so one year later than

> average).

> > There must have been some delay. He has no children.

> > Ash, you're right, he's not married but has had a long lasting

> relationship

> > since November 1987 up to now (no commonlife). It began in

> Jupiter/Rahu.

> > Jupiter is FK for 7th house, Rahu is samdharmi to Saturn LOD. As

for

> > marriage, 6th lord aspecting lords of A, B, and C and houses B

and

> C denies

> > marriage I think. About income, the most difficult period was his

> first

> > attempt as an astrologer in Jupiter/Venus (at least I think so).

> Maybe

> > because Venus is in X (12th from XI) aspected by 6th lord.

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

Just I read mail 5471, and 5508 of philippe. For chart 2, the

native got " degree for high school studies " . Is it called a degree,

(PADVI) If it is just completing high school studies it is not a

padvi. So for this case consider 4th house only.

krushna

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji, Philippe, Margarita and list members,

>

> 1) Obtained degree in 1975. Antra of Shani. Again shani has low

> points for 5th house ???

>

> 2) First full time Job : 1977. When Mercury antra started.

Mercury

> is LOE for 6th house and has highest points.. so fits in very well.

>

> Since Mercury is LOE and itself is giving results then result will

> happen in 1st 1/3rd sector here in this chart there is a 0 too so

> native must have got job in 2nd sector.... Can you confirm when he

> got his job.. I think 2nd 1/3rd sector falls in 1978 jan or feb or

> so... So can you please tell me when the native actually got this

> full time job ?????

>

> 3) Interruption happened in 1979/80 i.e. in Ketu antra. Ketu

> represents Venus and Sun. Venus has less points for 6th house and

> Sun has 19 points so if the person was totally unemployed then I

have

> a problem understanding this antra... Is it because Sun is

aspecting

> 6th house which is House B and itself cannot give result ????????

> Krushnaji can you please explain this antra.. and I am not getting

a

> defnitite answer here...

>

> 4) Took a stab at becomign a professional astrologer and then

reutned

> to work till June 1985.

>

> This goes from antra of Venus, Sun and Moon.

>

> I guess Venus is Samdharmi to Shani so despite having low points

for

> 6th house it still gave something.. then after that more stability

in

> Moon and Sun as they have 12 and 15 points in 5th house so more

> authority... so job will be maintained....

>

> 5) For relation start in Nov 1987 falls in Jupiter/Rahu antra.

Rahu

> represents Mars and Shani. Both have low points for 5th as well as

> 12th house.. Only thing I can see is Shani being samdharmi to

Venus

> prolly can give result.. but it could be only serious if that

happens

> after 1988/12.... as a relationship.. I mean getting closer...

> I dont know what the real facts are.... if it happened in Guru/Rahu

> antra then I am not getting any satisfactory answer.... Maybe

> Krushnaji if he has time to go through this chart can guide us.

>

> 6) DBCE points are in zig zag manner so service is better

indicated..

> being an astrologer is a service and not business as one is

charging

> money for intellectual property and not like a grocery store where

> one investes money and then gets return.. this can be considered as

a

> service...

>

> Thanks for this chart...

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> >

> > n°2: the native got his final degree for high school studies in

> 1975. He was

> > then accepted to prepare for being a teacher ( primary school

> pupils). While

> > he was still a student, had a 3 month training period (September

to

> December

> > 1976). During his studies, he got a salary. First full time job

in

> 1977.

> > Worked as a teacher for mentally retarded children. Interrupted

in

> 1979/1980

> > because of military service.In July 1981, made an attempt to work

> as a

> > professional astrologer in Paris. Then resumed his former job in

> 1982 until

> > June 1985. Then began to work as an astrologer till now.

> > If we look at the chart, first job was in Jupiter/Mercury.

Mercury

> activates

> > 2nd house (money) as LOD and 6th house (job) as LOE. It is also

> lord of

> > VIII=D for B=XI (income). First attempt as an astrologer was in

> > Jupiter/Venus. Venus is LOD for B=X but in navamsa it is conjunct

> to 9th

> > lord (12th from X) so I guess the time was not favorable. He

> settled as an

> > astrologer in Jupiter/Mars. Mars has low points for VI (end of

> former job)

> > and X (he had to re-start his career in a different field). As

lord

> of VI it

> > is aspecting tenth house.

> > Margarita, I think you're right about studies because the final

> exam in high

> > school was passed when he was nearly 19 (so one year later than

> average).

> > There must have been some delay. He has no children.

> > Ash, you're right, he's not married but has had a long lasting

> relationship

> > since November 1987 up to now (no commonlife). It began in

> Jupiter/Rahu.

> > Jupiter is FK for 7th house, Rahu is samdharmi to Saturn LOD. As

for

> > marriage, 6th lord aspecting lords of A, B, and C and houses B

and

> C denies

> > marriage I think. About income, the most difficult period was his

> first

> > attempt as an astrologer in Jupiter/Venus (at least I think so).

> Maybe

> > because Venus is in X (12th from XI) aspected by 6th lord.

> >