Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Krushnaji and list members, This was a chart that I came across on another list. I have taken permission to post this chart to our list. The querist is also a member of this list now. The Question asked was that the querist was quizzed for the delay in this chart for delay in marriage. Here is the chart data. Oct 11, 1976 1.15 PM IST 26N 17, 73E 04 Answer and something thats not clear. Margarita and Myself we had discussed this chart on chat. We however could easily see the delay when we used Krushnas Ashtakavarga System. 1) 1 Zero point in SAV 2) Shani is LOB and is aspecting LOB POINT 3 WAS NOT 100% CLEAR, HOPE YOU CAN CLARIFY IF WE CAN CONSIDER THIS. 3) SHANI IS IN 4:10 WITH LOC. Shani is not " ASPECTING " LOC but its in RELATION with it. Also LOC is 6th lord ??? So here how do we treat this. a) Moderate Delay b) Full Delay. Guru in both cases i.e. RAsi and Navamsa is not aspecting Shani so it cannot check the delay. Plus there is 1 Zero point. So we have 2 cases here. a) Moderate delay + 1 zero point in SAV. So assuming delay till 23 years (21 for moderate + about 2 years for 1 zero point). Antra running at that time was that of Rahu. Rahu is samdharmi to VENUS who is 6th lord.. since karaks are not spoilt and 5:9 relations are there.. then Marriage will not happen in that antra.. the next Antra running after that time is that of GURU. GURU is LOD so by that virtue it could give marriage.. thats antra is getting over on 30th of this month. So its not given result ???? Why ? b) Assuming there is some reason that Guru has not given result.. Here SHANIS ANTRA IS TRICKY... Shani is getting points from MARS. 6th lord VENUS has 3 bindus and so does Shani. Now by virtu of Shani having LESS than 4 bindus Venus can become Samdharmi BUT VENUS WILL OPPOSE SHANI IN ITS ANTAR. Here Shanis antra is running so Shani has power in its antra... Here Shani is Karak.. and Venus its natural Samdharmi is 6th lord.... I think Margarita and Myself we could not understand this Antra clearly.. on one Hand it does have enough power... (getting points from MARS) but at the same time Venus is also in 4th from it... who is 6th lord AND LOC to add to the complexity... and to further Add to complexity SHANI IS KARAK FOR MARRIAGE !!! LOA... Can you please explain HOW SUCH A SHANI WILL ACT. c) Mercury antra next.. this Margarita and Myself were VERY Clear that CERTAINLY MERCURY ANTRA WILL GIVE MARRIAGE.. Situation for Full Delay : i.e. considering 4:10 of shani to venus i.e. Shani aspecting LOB and House A and is LOA and this shani is in 4:10 with LOC... plus 1 Zero point in SAV. This might case delay of upto 29-30 years.. and the Native will go to End Shani or Mercury antra... Krushnaji, we tried to see this from every angle.. but we need your guidance especially on 1) What is the delay 2) Can we also consider 4:10 for causing full delay (i.e. Shani aspecting House A, B and 4:10 with LOC) 3) Why did Guru not give results in its antra 4) Can you explain in detail about How Such a complicated Shani will act.. 5) Just any other things you can see in this chart that we have overlooked... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash Mercury will definitely give results.. BUT again as asked above, Can you explain about Such a Shani... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Ash, Krushna, listmembers Thank you for posting this Ash To make the chart quicker and more simple for Krushna i just tyuped out the data of 11 october 1976 at 13h15 26N17 & 73E04 zone 5.30 RASI : asc 23°40 saggitarius - Sun 25°36 Virgo - Moon 29°22 Aries - Mars 9°09 Libra - Mercury 8°25 Virgo - Jupiter R 7°54 Taurus - Venus 26° Libra - Saturn 22°21 Cancer - Rahu 11°41 Libra NAVAMSA / asc Scorpio - Moon/Mars in Saggitarius - Rahu/Saturn in Capricorn - Mercury/Jupiter in Pisces - Venus in Taurus - Sun in Leo DASAS : Rahu/Jup 05/04/2001 Rahu /Saturn 29/08/2003 Rahu Mercury 06/07/2006 I don't think Guru cana give results because his antar is nearly gone and he cannot work for 5th and 12th Shanik cannot give marriage because he aspects house A I think she will marry in second 1/3 of Rahu/Mercury (because there is 1 zero, so second part) this means between 12/05/2007 and 18/03/2008. Mercury is LOE and in E for 5th, LOB for 7th and LOA for 12th Could you have a look please Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Krushnaji and list members, > > This was a chart that I came across on another list. I have taken > permission to post this chart to our list. > > The querist is also a member of this list now. The Question asked > was that the querist was quizzed for the delay in this chart for > delay in marriage. > > Here is the chart data. > > Oct 11, 1976 > 1.15 PM IST > 26N 17, 73E 04 > > > Answer and something thats not clear. > > Margarita and Myself we had discussed this chart on chat. We however > could easily see the delay when we used Krushnas Ashtakavarga System. > > 1) 1 Zero point in SAV > 2) Shani is LOB and is aspecting LOB > > POINT 3 WAS NOT 100% CLEAR, HOPE YOU CAN CLARIFY IF WE CAN CONSIDER > THIS. > > 3) SHANI IS IN 4:10 WITH LOC. Shani is not " ASPECTING " LOC but its > in RELATION with it. Also LOC is 6th lord ??? So here how do we > treat this. > > a) Moderate Delay > b) Full Delay. > > Guru in both cases i.e. RAsi and Navamsa is not aspecting Shani so it > cannot check the delay. Plus there is 1 Zero point. > > So we have 2 cases here. > > a) Moderate delay + 1 zero point in SAV. > > So assuming delay till 23 years (21 for moderate + about 2 years for > 1 zero point). > > Antra running at that time was that of Rahu. Rahu is samdharmi to > VENUS who is 6th lord.. since karaks are not spoilt and 5:9 relations > are there.. then Marriage will not happen in that antra.. the next > Antra running after that time is that of GURU. GURU is LOD so by > that virtue it could give marriage.. thats antra is getting over on > 30th of this month. So its not given result ???? Why ? > > b) Assuming there is some reason that Guru has not given result.. > Here SHANIS ANTRA IS TRICKY... Shani is getting points from MARS. > 6th lord VENUS has 3 bindus and so does Shani. Now by virtu of Shani > having LESS than 4 bindus Venus can become Samdharmi BUT VENUS WILL > OPPOSE SHANI IN ITS ANTAR. Here Shanis antra is running so Shani has > power in its antra... Here Shani is Karak.. and Venus its natural > Samdharmi is 6th lord.... I think Margarita and Myself we could not > understand this Antra clearly.. on one Hand it does have enough > power... (getting points from MARS) but at the same time Venus is > also in 4th from it... who is 6th lord AND LOC to add to the > complexity... and to further Add to complexity SHANI IS KARAK FOR > MARRIAGE !!! LOA... > > Can you please explain HOW SUCH A SHANI WILL ACT. > > c) Mercury antra next.. this Margarita and Myself were VERY Clear > that CERTAINLY MERCURY ANTRA WILL GIVE MARRIAGE.. > > > Situation for Full Delay : i.e. considering 4:10 of shani to venus > i.e. Shani aspecting LOB and House A and is LOA and this shani is in > 4:10 with LOC... plus 1 Zero point in SAV. > > This might case delay of upto 29-30 years.. and the Native will go to > End Shani or Mercury antra... > > Krushnaji, we tried to see this from every angle.. but we need your > guidance especially on > > 1) What is the delay > 2) Can we also consider 4:10 for causing full delay (i.e. Shani > aspecting House A, B and 4:10 with LOC) > 3) Why did Guru not give results in its antra > 4) Can you explain in detail about How Such a complicated Shani will > act.. > 5) Just any other things you can see in this chart that we have > overlooked... > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Mercury will definitely give results.. BUT again as asked above, Can > you explain about Such a Shani... > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Dear Ash, Margarita, and list members, This is full delay chart. Sani lord of 2nd and 7th and 11th liords are situated in 4th place. (Assuming Sani is with less then 4 points.) Again one zero will enhance delay. Your finding in Mercury sub is correct. Guru's antara is in the delay period, so cant give the result. This shani got power due to Venus 6th lord. So strength is reduced for giving favorable result. Thanks krushna , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Dear Ash, Krushna, listmembers > > Thank you for posting this Ash > To make the chart quicker and more simple for Krushna i just tyuped out > the data of 11 october 1976 at 13h15 26N17 & 73E04 zone 5.30 > > RASI : asc 23°40 saggitarius - Sun 25°36 Virgo - Moon 29°22 Aries - Mars > 9°09 Libra - Mercury 8°25 Virgo - Jupiter R 7°54 Taurus - Venus 26° > Libra - Saturn 22°21 Cancer - Rahu 11°41 Libra > > NAVAMSA / asc Scorpio - Moon/Mars in Saggitarius - Rahu/Saturn in > Capricorn - Mercury/Jupiter in Pisces - Venus in Taurus - Sun in Leo > > DASAS : > Rahu/Jup 05/04/2001 > Rahu /Saturn 29/08/2003 > Rahu Mercury 06/07/2006 > > I don't think Guru cana give results because his antar is nearly gone > and he cannot work for 5th and 12th > Shanik cannot give marriage because he aspects house A > I think she will marry in second 1/3 of Rahu/Mercury (because there is 1 > zero, so second part) > this means between 12/05/2007 and 18/03/2008. > Mercury is LOE and in E for 5th, LOB for 7th and LOA for 12th > > Could you have a look please > > Best regards > Margarita > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and list members, > > > > This was a chart that I came across on another list. I have taken > > permission to post this chart to our list. > > > > The querist is also a member of this list now. The Question asked > > was that the querist was quizzed for the delay in this chart for > > delay in marriage. > > > > Here is the chart data. > > > > Oct 11, 1976 > > 1.15 PM IST > > 26N 17, 73E 04 > > > > > > Answer and something thats not clear. > > > > Margarita and Myself we had discussed this chart on chat. We however > > could easily see the delay when we used Krushnas Ashtakavarga System. > > > > 1) 1 Zero point in SAV > > 2) Shani is LOB and is aspecting LOB > > > > POINT 3 WAS NOT 100% CLEAR, HOPE YOU CAN CLARIFY IF WE CAN CONSIDER > > THIS. > > > > 3) SHANI IS IN 4:10 WITH LOC. Shani is not " ASPECTING " LOC but its > > in RELATION with it. Also LOC is 6th lord ??? So here how do we > > treat this. > > > > a) Moderate Delay > > b) Full Delay. > > > > Guru in both cases i.e. RAsi and Navamsa is not aspecting Shani so it > > cannot check the delay. Plus there is 1 Zero point. > > > > So we have 2 cases here. > > > > a) Moderate delay + 1 zero point in SAV. > > > > So assuming delay till 23 years (21 for moderate + about 2 years for > > 1 zero point). > > > > Antra running at that time was that of Rahu. Rahu is samdharmi to > > VENUS who is 6th lord.. since karaks are not spoilt and 5:9 relations > > are there.. then Marriage will not happen in that antra.. the next > > Antra running after that time is that of GURU. GURU is LOD so by > > that virtue it could give marriage.. thats antra is getting over on > > 30th of this month. So its not given result ???? Why ? > > > > b) Assuming there is some reason that Guru has not given result.. > > Here SHANIS ANTRA IS TRICKY... Shani is getting points from MARS. > > 6th lord VENUS has 3 bindus and so does Shani. Now by virtu of Shani > > having LESS than 4 bindus Venus can become Samdharmi BUT VENUS WILL > > OPPOSE SHANI IN ITS ANTAR. Here Shanis antra is running so Shani has > > power in its antra... Here Shani is Karak.. and Venus its natural > > Samdharmi is 6th lord.... I think Margarita and Myself we could not > > understand this Antra clearly.. on one Hand it does have enough > > power... (getting points from MARS) but at the same time Venus is > > also in 4th from it... who is 6th lord AND LOC to add to the > > complexity... and to further Add to complexity SHANI IS KARAK FOR > > MARRIAGE !!! LOA... > > > > Can you please explain HOW SUCH A SHANI WILL ACT. > > > > c) Mercury antra next.. this Margarita and Myself were VERY Clear > > that CERTAINLY MERCURY ANTRA WILL GIVE MARRIAGE.. > > > > > > Situation for Full Delay : i.e. considering 4:10 of shani to venus > > i.e. Shani aspecting LOB and House A and is LOA and this shani is in > > 4:10 with LOC... plus 1 Zero point in SAV. > > > > This might case delay of upto 29-30 years.. and the Native will go to > > End Shani or Mercury antra... > > > > Krushnaji, we tried to see this from every angle.. but we need your > > guidance especially on > > > > 1) What is the delay > > 2) Can we also consider 4:10 for causing full delay (i.e. Shani > > aspecting House A, B and 4:10 with LOC) > > 3) Why did Guru not give results in its antra > > 4) Can you explain in detail about How Such a complicated Shani will > > act.. > > 5) Just any other things you can see in this chart that we have > > overlooked... > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Mercury will definitely give results.. BUT again as asked above, Can > > you explain about Such a Shani... > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Dear Krushnaji, Pranam, Thank you very much for your answer. Its clear now. So we do consider 4:10 relation as Shani due to being with less points i.e. less than 4 bindus will make planets in 4th from it do its job and depute to do its tasks... Slowly but surely these fine points are also being cleared... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita, and list members, > This is full delay chart. Sani lord of 2nd and 7th and 11th > liords are situated in 4th place. (Assuming Sani is with less then 4 > points.) > Again one zero will enhance delay. > Your finding in Mercury sub is correct. > Guru's antara is in the delay period, so cant give the > result. > This shani got power due to Venus 6th lord. So strength is > reduced for giving favorable result. > Thanks > krushna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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