Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear List Members, Can members who have had multiple job changes or major financial ups and downs or something like huge hike in pay due to change of job or may have lost a lot of wealth or income suddenly for some reason or the other. Can List Members come forward with such charts if you have any with the following data. 1) Date Of Birth 2) Place of Birth 3) Time of Birth 4) Country of Birth and DST if applicable. 5) Job - From and through dates OR 5) Financial ups or downs - From dates and Through dates. 6) Overall feeling of good fortune or bad like for example " Someone may experience this for about 15 years of good / bad fortune " Some Past events to verify the chart a) Marriage date b) Date of birth of children c) Sickness / Accidents if any d) Death of any relative e) Misc dates if you can think of any that may help. I would like to study such charts in detail and discuss them on the list using Ashtakvarg System. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear List Members, I would like to submit my chart for this analysis. I am a real estate salesperson and have been trying to use ashtakavarga system to analyze when sales come. I have dates of when contracts were written and dates when I was paid. My information is as follows. Date of birth: June 1, 1966 Place of birth: Kansas City, MO Time Zone 6 Lat: 39 N 06 Lon 94 W 34 Time of Birth: 2:11 am CST United States Started selling Real Estate in February of 2000 until now I receive large sums of money but very sporadically. Past Events Marriage date: 10-20-1990 Birth of Children: 3-16-1984 4-12-1989 2-2-1992 Had a major accident on 12-9-1995. Suicide of my half-brother on 1-1-1996 Dates when I have written contracts this year are as follows: 5-10-2003 2-11-2003 3-28-2003 5-30-2003 6-10-2003 The year of 2002. I had very little income, this year has been better but still up and down. Thank you Stacey --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Stacy, I just casted your chart and tried to match the events of your marriage and child birth. Except the first child none of the events match. I am getting your marriage in Moons antra that has -1 points. Also its aspecting house B so itself has no power to give results. First child conception in in Merc antra i.e. 4th house lord who is LOE so that fits. 2nd child's conception july 88. Now if conception happend in Venus antra i.e. very end then Venus is LOD for 11th house so conception is possible if it happened in Suns antra then Sun has only 6 points in worksheet for 11th house so venus antra is ok.. but sun though karak but hmm.. 3rd child's conception is may 1991 i.e. in Mars antra. Mars again has only 7 points for 11th house and is aspecting House A for conception house i.e. 11th house as B so 6th is A and mars aspects it. How confident are you of your time of birth Stacy ? Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Stacey Hoffmann " <spaceyhoff@e...> wrote: > Dear List Members, > I would like to submit my chart for this analysis. I am a real estate > salesperson and have been trying to use ashtakavarga system to analyze > when sales come. I have dates of when contracts were written and dates > when I was paid. My information is as follows. > Date of birth: June 1, 1966 > Place of birth: Kansas City, MO Time Zone 6 Lat: 39 N 06 Lon 94 W 34 > Time of Birth: 2:11 am CST > United States > > Started selling Real Estate in February of 2000 until now > > I receive large sums of money but very sporadically. > > Past Events > Marriage date: 10-20-1990 > > Birth of Children: > 3-16-1984 > 4-12-1989 > 2-2-1992 > > Had a major accident on 12-9-1995. > Suicide of my half-brother on 1-1-1996 > Dates when I have written contracts this year are as follows: > 5-10-2003 > 2-11-2003 > 3-28-2003 > 5-30-2003 > 6-10-2003 > The year of 2002. I had very little income, this year has been better > but still up and down. > Thank you > Stacey > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Stacey, You were married in 1990 but you had children in 1984/03. Now If I consider *that* as your marriage date then it falls in Mercury's antra and that has highest points for 7th house and it fits. I guess things are more straight forward in India.. as compared to the west... I guess.. I am just not getting proper reasoning for 3rd child. Krushnaji and Margarita, can you confirm if Mars being LOD for 5th house can it give conception for a Female chart ??? 1) DBCE points are in ascending order so Business is indicated. 2) 10th lords from lagna, sun and moon are in navamsa of Shani, Sun, Shani.. (does it point to real estate ??) 3) lagna, sun and moon in 2 spots in navamsa, drekkhan and trimsamsa in sign of shani so good intellegence. 4) High points in SAV for 1st house. You started your business in Venus antra. Using Krushnas Ayanamsa around the time when mahadasha changed so karaktwa of Shani getting over and that of Mercury starting. So idea must have come during that time to do something on own. At that time MErcury antra was running and Mercury is with 5 bindus and in 3rd house so its very eager to give results for 6th and 10th i.e. (4th and 8th fom itself as its in House D of 6th house with high bindus and House E of 10th with 5 binds). So due to this fact you might have kept your job. Points in Mercury for 10th , 11th and 12th hosue are 17,15 and 4. MErcury is LOE for 11th and LOD for 10th so eager to give power and Income and at that time expense might have also been low so more savings. Then came Ketu antra and ketu is samdharmi to Guru and Mars. Again This antra will have mixed results. Mars is 2nd lord so Ketu antra will also have stress, unessasory tention or tooth aches. If you notice the following 10th 11th 12th points Mercury 17 15 4 Mars 8 8 4 Guru 6 18 10 So here Ketu represents Mars and Guru so there will be on an average much lower results in " quantum " as compared to Mercury antra that might have been fantastic..... can u confirm the same please.. Now Since 2000/12 thru 2003/20 the native is running Antra of Venus. Venus is in 2nd house with High points. This will bring stress as being placed in 2nd house with high points. Such people with planets in 2nd with high points it might cause false accuasation also. Since it has high points it will boost 11th house but Oppose 5th house so native will have to work harder in this antra but income will be there.. Antra 10th 11th 12th points Mercury 17 15 4 ----------------------------- Mars 8 8 4 Guru 6 18 10 ----------------------------- Venus 19 18 10 So compared to Ketu antra it will definitely be better at the same time person may also have to work harder than Ketu antra for the income. Expenses will be about the same. For 11th house (income) high planets getting high points are Mercury, Guru and Venus. Ketu represents Guru and Rahu represents Venus. So when sun transits House and Sign of these grahas better results for " income " can be expected. Points of Venus for 11th house Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 6 8 7 15 18 18 5 -- -- -- Based on that lets study the dates keeping in mind that venus antra is running. 1)5-10-2003 On 10/5 i.e May 10th Sun was transitting Sign and constellation of Venus and Mars. (Venus has 18 points) 2) 11/2/2003 i.e Suns transit into Shani and Mars (does not fit) however if it were between Feb 20th and March 4th then sun would have transitted Shani and Rahu and Rahu = Venus... so again that would fit.... [Can you confirm about this contract was there any revision or re-writing ??] 3) 28/3/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Jupiter and Saturn (Guru has high points) 4) 30/5/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Venus and Sun (Venus has high points) 5) 10/6/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Venus and Mars. (Venus has high points) So in this way you can check how Venus is appearing and Guru is appearing... going forward when Sun transits Gemini or Virgo also some better results as Mercury also has higher points... If you study your lifes income trends then you will notice that whenever sun transitted Signs or Nakshatra of Mercury, Guru, Venus and Constellations of Rahu and Ketu you might have got someing positive for income... On the same token if you also notice difficult times for income can be when Sun transits Sign of Sun, Moon, Mars and Saturn and excluding constellations of Guru, Mercury, Venus, Rahu and Ketu. There is a lesson on probable date finder in the file section you can download the same and find out the probable dates... and times for achieving success. Assuming your chart is correct this can show you how to approach this. Now another thing you can check... is this 1)5-10-2003 on 10/5/2003 total points were 198. 2) 11/2/2003 total points were 198. 3) 28/3/2003 total points were 222. So higher level of stress as antra of 2nd lord is running 4) 30/5/2003 total points were 187 so much more relaxed but felt that u had lesser control... 5) 10/6/2003 total points were 191.. so things were upbeat as compared to 30th of May but more stress too..... Can you please confirm the same... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Stacey Hoffmann " <spaceyhoff@e...> wrote: > Dear List Members, > I would like to submit my chart for this analysis. I am a real estate > salesperson and have been trying to use ashtakavarga system to analyze > when sales come. I have dates of when contracts were written and dates > when I was paid. My information is as follows. > Date of birth: June 1, 1966 > Place of birth: Kansas City, MO Time Zone 6 Lat: 39 N 06 Lon 94 W 34 > Time of Birth: 2:11 am CST > United States > > Started selling Real Estate in February of 2000 until now > > I receive large sums of money but very sporadically. > > Past Events > Marriage date: 10-20-1990 > > Birth of Children: > 3-16-1984 > 4-12-1989 > 2-2-1992 > > Had a major accident on 12-9-1995. > Suicide of my half-brother on 1-1-1996 > Dates when I have written contracts this year are as follows: > 5-10-2003 > 2-11-2003 > 3-28-2003 > 5-30-2003 > 6-10-2003 > The year of 2002. I had very little income, this year has been better > but still up and down. > Thank you > Stacey > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 I have tried to answer your questions in Caps below. Stacey Hoffmann ashsam73 [ashsam73] Friday, August 22, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Request for Members - Submit Charts for Job/Financial Analysis Dear Stacey, You were married in 1990 but you had children in 1984/03. Now If I consider *that* as your marriage date then it falls in Mercury's antra and that has highest points for 7th house and it fits. I guess things are more straight forward in India.. as compared to the west... I guess.. YES I LEFT HOME AT THE AGE OF 16 DUE TO PROBLEMS WITH FATHER. I am just not getting proper reasoning for 3rd child. Krushnaji and Margarita, can you confirm if Mars being LOD for 5th house can it give conception for a Female chart ??? IF MARS AND VENUS HAVE EXCHANGED PLACES, CAN MARS BE SANDHARMI FOR VENUS? 1) DBCE points are in ascending order so Business is indicated. 2) 10th lords from lagna, sun and moon are in navamsa of Shani, Sun, Shani.. (does it point to real estate ??) 3) lagna, sun and moon in 2 spots in navamsa, drekkhan and trimsamsa in sign of shani so good intellegence. 4) High points in SAV for 1st house. You started your business in Venus antra. Using Krushnas Ayanamsa around the time when mahadasha changed so karaktwa of Shani getting over and that of Mercury starting. So idea must have come during that time to do something on own. At that time MErcury antra was running and Mercury is with 5 bindus and in 3rd house so its very eager to give results for 6th and 10th i.e. (4th and 8th fom itself as its in House D of 6th house with high bindus and House E of 10th with 5 binds). So due to this fact you might have kept your job. Points in Mercury for 10th , 11th and 12th hosue are 17,15 and 4. MErcury is LOE for 11th and LOD for 10th so eager to give power and Income and at that time expense might have also been low so more savings. YES I DID KEEP MY JOB FOR A WHILE AND EXPENSES WERE LOW AT THIS POINT. Then came Ketu antra and ketu is samdharmi to Guru and Mars. Again This antra will have mixed results. Mars is 2nd lord so Ketu antra will also have stress, unessasory tention or tooth aches. If you notice the following 10th 11th 12th points Mercury 17 15 4 Mars 8 8 4 Guru 6 18 10 So here Ketu represents Mars and Guru so there will be on an average much lower results in " quantum " as compared to Mercury antra that might have been fantastic..... can u confirm the same please.. YES, EXACTLY RIGHT. STRESS WAS HIGHER, EXPENSES WENT WAY UP, AND BUSINESS WENT DOWN. Now Since 2000/12 thru 2003/20 the native is running Antra of Venus. Venus is in 2nd house with High points. This will bring stress as being placed in 2nd house with high points. Such people with planets in 2nd with high points it might cause false accuasation also. Since it has high points it will boost 11th house but Oppose 5th house so native will have to work harder in this antra but income will be there.. Antra 10th 11th 12th points Mercury 17 15 4 ----------------------------- Mars 8 8 4 Guru 6 18 10 ----------------------------- Venus 19 18 10 So compared to Ketu antra it will definitely be better at the same time person may also have to work harder than Ketu antra for the income. Expenses will be about the same. For 11th house (income) high planets getting high points are Mercury, Guru and Venus. Ketu represents Guru and Rahu represents Venus. So when sun transits House and Sign of these grahas better results for " income " can be expected. Points of Venus for 11th house Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 6 8 7 15 18 18 5 -- -- -- Based on that lets study the dates keeping in mind that venus antra is running. 1)5-10-2003 On 10/5 i.e May 10th Sun was transitting Sign and constellation of Venus and Mars. (Venus has 18 points) 2) 11/2/2003 i.e Suns transit into Shani and Mars (does not fit) however if it were between Feb 20th and March 4th then sun would have transitted Shani and Rahu and Rahu = Venus... so again that would fit.... [Can you confirm about this contract was there any revision or re-writing ??] FINAL DATE ON THIS CONTRACT WAS REACHED FEB. 13TH 3) 28/3/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Jupiter and Saturn (Guru has high points) 4) 30/5/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Venus and Sun (Venus has high points) 5) 10/6/2003 i.e. Suns transit into Venus and Mars. (Venus has high points) So in this way you can check how Venus is appearing and Guru is appearing... going forward when Sun transits Gemini or Virgo also some better results as Mercury also has higher points... If you study your lifes income trends then you will notice that whenever sun transitted Signs or Nakshatra of Mercury, Guru, Venus and Constellations of Rahu and Ketu you might have got someing positive for income... On the same token if you also notice difficult times for income can be when Sun transits Sign of Sun, Moon, Mars and Saturn and excluding constellations of Guru, Mercury, Venus, Rahu and Ketu. There is a lesson on probable date finder in the file section you can download the same and find out the probable dates... and times for achieving success. I HAVE ONLY DISCOVERED THE LIST 2 WEEKS AGO AND AM STILL GOING THROUGH THE LESSONS. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THIS LESSON YET. Assuming your chart is correct this can show you how to approach this. THIS IS THE BIRTH TIME ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I HAVE NOT RECTIFIED IT YET BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT NEEDS RECTIFICATION. Now another thing you can check... is this 1)5-10-2003 on 10/5/2003 total points were 198. 2) 11/2/2003 total points were 198. 3) 28/3/2003 total points were 222. So higher level of stress as antra of 2nd lord is running 4) 30/5/2003 total points were 187 so much more relaxed but felt that u had lesser control... 5) 10/6/2003 total points were 191.. so things were upbeat as compared to 30th of May but more stress too..... YES THE LEVELS OF STRESS YOU MENTION ON EACH OF THESE IS CORRECT. Can you please confirm the same... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Stacey Hoffmann " <spaceyhoff@e...> wrote: > Dear List Members, > I would like to submit my chart for this analysis. I am a real estate > salesperson and have been trying to use ashtakavarga system to analyze > when sales come. I have dates of when contracts were written and dates > when I was paid. My information is as follows. > Date of birth: June 1, 1966 > Place of birth: Kansas City, MO Time Zone 6 Lat: 39 N 06 Lon 94 W 34 > Time of Birth: 2:11 am CST > United States > > Started selling Real Estate in February of 2000 until now > > I receive large sums of money but very sporadically. > > Past Events > Marriage date: 10-20-1990 > > Birth of Children: > 3-16-1984 > 4-12-1989 > 2-2-1992 > > Had a major accident on 12-9-1995. > Suicide of my half-brother on 1-1-1996 > Dates when I have written contracts this year are as follows: > 5-10-2003 > 2-11-2003 > 3-28-2003 > 5-30-2003 > 6-10-2003 > The year of 2002. I had very little income, this year has been better > but still up and down. > Thank you > Stacey > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release 8/19/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Hello Stacey, Welome to the list. I saw Ash did a good analysis about your chart. As you are learning, i thought it interesting to point out some particularities in your chart that are important in the system 1) Saturn has 6 points in the 1st, quite exceptional (i mean having 6 points) 2) Mars has 8 points in the 1st house 3) As there are 3 planets in your 3th house they boost your first because they all give points to the 11th from their position, so your 1st house becomes strong which gives a stubborn nature, you know what you want and are a fighter 4) check sub periods of mars 1975,1991, they were probably more difficult because Mars is lord of the 2nd 5) Moon is with mars and in mars navamsa, so more daring and quick decisions 6) lords of 1st and 9th have 2/12 relationship; this indicates the troublesome relationship with your father 2/12 relationship means " separation " 7) relationship between 1st and 3th are 3:11; this meaans better relationship between you and mother or more understanding 8) as points in the 1st are higher than in the 7th, you tend to dominate in a relationship unless your husband also has high points in his first house Well these were just a few thoughts Hope to read you often of the list Good luck Margarita Stacey Hoffmann wrote: > Dear List Members, > > I would like to submit my chart for this analysis. I am a real estate > salesperson and have been trying to use ashtakavarga system to analyze > when sales come. I have dates of when contracts were written and dates > when I was paid. My information is as follows. > > Date of birth: June 1, 1966 > > Place of birth: Kansas City, MO Time Zone 6 Lat: 39 N 06 Lon 94 W 34 > > Time of Birth: 2:11 am CST > > United States > > > > Started selling Real Estate in February of 2000 until now > > > > I receive large sums of money but very sporadically. > > > > Past Events > > Marriage date: 10-20-1990 > > > > Birth of Children: > > 3-16-1984 > > 4-12-1989 > > 2-2-1992 > > > > Had a major accident on 12-9-1995. > > Suicide of my half-brother on 1-1-1996 > > Dates when I have written contracts this year are as follows: > > 5-10-2003 > > 2-11-2003 > > 3-28-2003 > > 5-30-2003 > > 6-10-2003 > > The year of 2002. I had very little income, this year has been better > but still up and down. > > Thank you > > Stacey > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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