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[Guest guest]

Dear Narayan,

The possiblilty of releif comes after March 25-30th 2003. This will

start to look little better. Worries would get little better after

12/2002 but much more difference will be felt after March 25-30th

2003 but still. If you had a job it will get smoother/more stability

after end March 2003. Relationship with wife that was also under

strain will get much better and you will get family happiness and

maybe some luxury like car or home too...

 

Please confirm,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Narayan,

>

> I went through the chart.

>

> 1) The antra u were running during April/May 2002 was that of

> Mars/Shani.

>

> 2) Check Shanis points. It has weak points i.e. less than 12 for

the

> following houses. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12th house. For 5th

house

> it has 12 points so border line and can go either way. Here Shani

is

> LOD for 5th and 4th house so its trying to give better results for

> 5th house so there will be ups and downs in terms of continuity of

> job.

>

> 3) Now Most important. At the time of April/May 2002, Shani was

> transitting Taurus in your chart thats 5th house and Moon is giving

0

> points to it. So is it surprising that you faced troubles. At the

> same time Guru was transitting Gemini and in your chart its giving

4

> points. So total of Guru + Shani = 4 points only.

>

> 4) Shani is also the lord of 2nd house so you will face a lot of

> stress and worries. This is aggrivated with Shanis transit over

> house with 0 points.

>

> 5) Using this system its very clear.

>

> By the way just to clarify Birth Time

>

> 1) Were you married during 1983/06 thru 1983/09. i.e. Suns antra.

> 2) Possible conception of children during 1984/07 and 1985/06 i.e

> antra of Sun. Using krushnas ayanamsa.

> 3) Other possiblities are in Shanis antra i.e. 1986/04 thru 1987/03

> (LOD for 5th house) and Venus (LOE) i.e. 1988/06 thru 1989/06.

>

> Can you confirm the same,

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

> , " z1e1b1r1a "

> <z1e1b1r1a> wrote:

> > hi group,

> >

> > I have been a silent member watching/reading the postings for the

> > past one year or so. I post my birth chart for analysis:

> >

> > DOB: 29.04.1957 TOB: 00.20.00 (midnight of 28th April) POB:

> Bangalore

> >

> > Asc: Capri,

> > Sun, Moon, Venus, Merc®, ketu: Aries

> > Mars: Gemini

> > Jupiter®: Leo

> > Rahu: Libra

> > Saturn®: Scorpio

> >

> > I was hit by thunderbolt like financial scam in April/May 2002

> which

> > engulfed many of the co-op banks in Maharashtra/Gujarat of

Western

> > India. I was running Mars Dasha - Saturn bhukti when I was

tossed

> > for a six. I could find no logical/rational explanation for

being

> > the victim and resorted to looking for other explanations such as

> > astro phenomena etc.

> >

> > Can the enlightended group members go through the chart and

clarify

> > whether the thunderbolt was foretold and if I could have

minimised

> > the impact if known in advance.

> >

> > thanx and regards

> >

> > narayan

[Guest guest]

Hello Narayam,

Welcome , I see you casted the chart yourself but didn't use our

ayanamsa. With Krushna's ayanamsa Jupiter goes to 0°12 Virgo and will

receive sight of Mars with -7 points. ; this affects the quality of

Jupiter and Jupiter is FK and NK for the 5th = speculation; he's also

NK for the 2nd, house of wealth and the FK for the 8th house, also

related to money. This just to point out how the ayanamsa can change

the outlook of the chart .

 

I wanted to point out that you take quick and daring decisions and act

without too much hindsight; this makes you more vulnerable to losses.

This trait is seen through the fact that the Moon is in Mars sign and

Ketu nakshatra. Moon is also in Mars navamsa. Look how many times your

Moon turns up in Mars sign in the div charts !!

 

April/May 2002 was indeed the last part of Mars/saturn. Saturn as lord

of the 2nd house (12th from the 3th) is considered as less good for

health and general well being.

Saturn can act for itself but also as natural samdharmi to Venus

Venus is the 12th lord for the 11th (income)and also LOC for the

12th(losses) If you look at the points for Venus in the WS you will see

that it gives more losses than gains.

But let's focus only on Saturn to keep things simple.

First let's look at the points for Saturn in the WS; its points for

income ar rather low, so it cannot give favorable results.

Look at the transits of Jup and Sat. for april and may 2002

These transits happen mostly in Taurus, house with 19 points only; this

is low indeed

Jupiter was in Gemini (more precisely in nakshatra of rahu)were it has

4 points,

Saturn was in Taurus (more precisely in nakshatra of Moon) were it has

2 points,

Let's only consider points of Jup and Sat 4 + 2 = 6; points should at

least be 8 to give favorable results "if" the points of the sub planet

in the WS are more more than 12 which is really a minimul.

Note that the Moon has 0 points for this house

Mars entered Taurus in april

Sun, Venus,Mercury, all passed through this sign and the Moon did that

twice.

 

To conclcude think also about the following : You had Saturn transiting

in Aries(2000), especially over de Moon and in 2002 were still under

influence of this Saturn transit.

Look how many points Jupiter (previous sub) has (in WS) for the 1st

house(-3) and points of Saturn for the 1st (9). If we consider the 1st

as "general well being" these points indicate much stress and fatigue

so perhaps much risks or bad judgment during rahu and jupiter sub was

responsible for losses during Saturn sub.

 

Any feed back is welcome, we're all still learning, so don't take this

as "ultimate truth"

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

 

 

z1e1b1r1a wrote:

 

hi group,

 

I have been a silent member watching/reading the postings for the

past one year or so. I post my birth chart for analysis:

 

DOB: 29.04.1957 TOB: 00.20.00 (midnight of 28th April) POB: Bangalore

 

Asc: Capri,

Sun, Moon, Venus, Merc®, ketu: Aries

Mars: Gemini

Jupiter®: Leo

Rahu: Libra

Saturn®: Scorpio

 

I was hit by thunderbolt like financial scam in April/May 2002 which

engulfed many of the co-op banks in Maharashtra/Gujarat of Western

India. I was running Mars Dasha - Saturn bhukti when I was tossed

for a six. I could find no logical/rational explanation for being

the victim and resorted to looking for other explanations such as

astro phenomena etc.

 

Can the enlightended group members go through the chart and clarify

whether the thunderbolt was foretold and if I could have minimised

the impact if known in advance.

 

thanx and regards

 

narayan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Narayan,

Thank you for your feeback.

 

I studied the dates you gave and all the dates did fit with the

system.

 

1) I had made a error in typing .. the second period in which your

relationship started was Rahu and Not Sun. The antra period give was

right. Rahu is in the 10th which is LOE for 5th (love) and Rahu

represents Venus (LOE for 5th) and Jupiter (LOE) for 12th house or

eager to give bed pleasures.. so it fits as per what you say. Being

in House E for 5th house it can also give childbirth. Again both

charts have to be considered and stopping child birth is in ones

hands.

 

2) The period I gave for ease of tention is *for mental period*

because of Shanis transit. Shani is 2nd lord, transitting over a

house with 0 points. A 0 in a house reduces results of that house.

There could be blot on your name during that period and full period

of worry and tention. All this aggrivated by transit of Saturn who

holds karakatwa for 6th and 7th house matters so bank money related

(6th house) or partnerships etc.. 5th house is also of Speculaiton as

Margarita correctly pointed out.. and a Zero there is reducing that.

So once Shani moves out of 5th and when Shanis antra gets over you

will feel more relief and mentally.

 

3) Again if you see your marriage using this system it happened in

Mars/Guru and Guru is LOE for 7th house so it fits properly. Guru

cannot give conception as he is weak for 5th house if you see the

points in the worksheet.

 

4) As soon as Shanis antra kicked in in Mars man conception

happened. Shani is LOD for 5th house i.e. lord of 2nd house. So

this also fits.

 

5) About home also see the worksheet and see the points that Mercury

is getting. I beleive that will give the answer.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " z1e1b1r1a "

<z1e1b1r1a> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Ash and Margarita,

>

> Thank you for both for wonderful analysis and kudos to you both for

> the prompt reply.

>

> Referring to the analysis of Margarita, I confirm that I take very

> quick and spontaneous decisions (regarding money as also

investments)

> and many times regret later. Regarding ups and downs in job during

> the period in question, many times I thought of change of job, but

> presently am sticking to the present job.

>

> Referring to the analysis of Ash, I confirm that situation eased

> after Dec. 2002 and and became much smoother after March 2003. But

I

> wish to add that the ease of tension is more of mental attitude,

but

> on the ground level the chances of recovery of investment is still

> remote. Yes, I again confirm that domestic bliss has improved

> considerably after March 2003. I have car since 1998 and yes, I

have

> made investment for construction of new house during the period,

but

> havent moved so far.

>

> Regarding sun's antra for checking the correctness of birth time,

the

> period 6/83 to 9/83 is not correct as I didnt have any marriage or

> girlfriend during that period. But the period 7/84 to 6/88 is

right

> on the target as I had a serious love affair and had physical

> relationship, but it didnt result in conception. To give the

correct

> date I will say that the love affair started on or about 25 Feb 85

> and lasted till Dec. 1995 or thereabout.

>

> I did eventually get married on 26.08.2001 (yes, very late

marriage)

> and had birth of a baby daughter on 24.07.2002. My father passed

> away in the last week of Oct. 1989 (on ekadashi day, 4 days prior

to

> diwali).

>

> So I request the group, particularly Ash and Margarita to explore

the

> chart further and analyse the same.

>

> With greetings and regards

>

> narayan

[Guest guest]

Hello Narayan,

Ash covered all topics nicely.

Did you notice that Jupiter is strong for certain aspects of

relationship.(having an affait and marriage came under jupiter)

There was just the death of the father that wasn't covered. According

the ayanamsa we use this was during Moon/Moon

For this event we look at the 8th from the 9th = 4th house.

You see Moon has 5 points for that house and Karak is Mars who is

samdharmi to mainlord Moon; this also fits nicely

Moon, according to points in the WS, can give results

Best regards

Margarita

 

ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Narayan,

> Thank you for your feeback.

>

> I studied the dates you gave and all the dates did fit with the

> system.

>

> 1) I had made a error in typing .. the second period in which your

> relationship started was Rahu and Not Sun. The antra period give was

> right. Rahu is in the 10th which is LOE for 5th (love) and Rahu

> represents Venus (LOE for 5th) and Jupiter (LOE) for 12th house or

> eager to give bed pleasures.. so it fits as per what you say. Being

> in House E for 5th house it can also give childbirth. Again both

> charts have to be considered and stopping child birth is in ones

> hands.

>

> 2) The period I gave for ease of tention is *for mental period*

> because of Shanis transit. Shani is 2nd lord, transitting over a

> house with 0 points. A 0 in a house reduces results of that house.

> There could be blot on your name during that period and full period

> of worry and tention. All this aggrivated by transit of Saturn who

> holds karakatwa for 6th and 7th house matters so bank money related

> (6th house) or partnerships etc.. 5th house is also of Speculaiton as

> Margarita correctly pointed out.. and a Zero there is reducing that.

> So once Shani moves out of 5th and when Shanis antra gets over you

> will feel more relief and mentally.

>

> 3) Again if you see your marriage using this system it happened in

> Mars/Guru and Guru is LOE for 7th house so it fits properly. Guru

> cannot give conception as he is weak for 5th house if you see the

> points in the worksheet.

>

> 4) As soon as Shanis antra kicked in in Mars man conception

> happened. Shani is LOD for 5th house i.e. lord of 2nd house. So

> this also fits.

>

> 5) About home also see the worksheet and see the points that Mercury

> is getting. I beleive that will give the answer.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " z1e1b1r1a "

> <z1e1b1r1a> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash and Margarita,

> >

> > Thank you for both for wonderful analysis and kudos to you both for

> > the prompt reply.

> >

> > Referring to the analysis of Margarita, I confirm that I take very

> > quick and spontaneous decisions (regarding money as also

> investments)

> > and many times regret later. Regarding ups and downs in job during

> > the period in question, many times I thought of change of job, but

> > presently am sticking to the present job.

> >

> > Referring to the analysis of Ash, I confirm that situation eased

> > after Dec. 2002 and and became much smoother after March 2003. But

> I

> > wish to add that the ease of tension is more of mental attitude,

> but

> > on the ground level the chances of recovery of investment is still

> > remote. Yes, I again confirm that domestic bliss has improved

> > considerably after March 2003. I have car since 1998 and yes, I

> have

> > made investment for construction of new house during the period,

> but

> > havent moved so far.

> >

> > Regarding sun's antra for checking the correctness of birth time,

> the

> > period 6/83 to 9/83 is not correct as I didnt have any marriage or

> > girlfriend during that period. But the period 7/84 to 6/88 is

> right

> > on the target as I had a serious love affair and had physical

> > relationship, but it didnt result in conception. To give the

> correct

> > date I will say that the love affair started on or about 25 Feb 85

> > and lasted till Dec. 1995 or thereabout.

> >

> > I did eventually get married on 26.08.2001 (yes, very late

> marriage)

> > and had birth of a baby daughter on 24.07.2002. My father passed

> > away in the last week of Oct. 1989 (on ekadashi day, 4 days prior

> to

> > diwali).

> >

> > So I request the group, particularly Ash and Margarita to explore

> the

> > chart further and analyse the same.

> >

> > With greetings and regards

> >

> > narayan

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Hi Ash and Margarita,

 

I went through the lessons and couldnt resist making about a

prediction about my chart for change of job and/or change of place.

 

I surmise I am due for change of job (for the better!!) and residence

during January/February 2004.

 

Can u please confirm??

 

thanx

 

narayan

[Guest guest]

z1e1b1r1a wrote:

 

>

> Hello Narayan,

 

First let's get the sub periods right, at least then we are talking

about the same time period.

Mars/Ketu will start on 18 november 2003 and Mars/Venus will start 15th

of april 2004.

For the moment you are still in Mars/Mercury.

If you casted the chart with another ayanamsa, you will have other dates

Ketu will act for Mars, Sun and Jupiter. Ketu will be in house D for the

7th and in house E for the 11th.

For job related questions we look at the 6th house, for authority at the

10th , for income at the 11th.

For change in residence, it should be the 9th house here as you are not

going abroad.

Note all these houses are taken as " B " .

Could me tell you about your reasoning so I could follow better

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

 

> Hi Ash and Margarita,

>

> I went through the lessons and couldnt resist making about a

> prediction about my chart for change of job and/or change of place.

>

> I surmise I am due for change of job (for the better!!) and residence

> during January/February 2004.

>

> Can u please confirm??

>

> thanx

>

> narayan

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Dear Narayan,

Please use proper Ayanamsa as per this system then our antras will

match then we can all be on the same page.

 

Also please cast the worksheet and then you will be able to

understand what we are saying about why certain things happen in

certain antras only and from there we can go and narrow it down to

pin point dates. Its a long process but lets go one step at a time.

 

1) For Job Change there is not just one House we must see. 6th house

we take as B for job. 6th house holds karaktwa for 11th house. So

when we say to time someone getting first job then we place House B =

6th house. Generally highest points for 6th house or LOD or LOE or

planets in House D or E i.e. 11th of 3rd house with High points i.e.

> 4 bindus are more eager to give job in their antra.

 

2) After you get job then you shift focus to 5th house. Why ? The

reason is because 5th house holds karakatwas for 10th house i.e.

Authority. Here is there are low points then person may have changes

in job ... but then how to see if job is there or not ...

 

3) For that we check Income and for that we check points in 11th

house and for authority again we check points of 10th house as B. So

now if there is change of job and no income could mean that person

might be unemployed during that time... but again there are so many

things one has to see w.r.t. which other planets are samdharmis. For

example if Say Venus antra is running then we know that Venus is

Natural Samdhamrmi to Shani, similarly for Mars and Sun and Mars and

Moon. These as per basic Vedic Astrology if u study keenly are

Yogakaraks for each others house i.e Venus is Yogakarak planet for

Shani's ascendents i.e. CApricorn and Aquarius and For Cancer and Leo

Its Mars these all thigns you can get from lessons.... and all these

are used together with points for timing.

 

4) For expenses you can check 12th house. Compare points between

10th, 11th and 12th for the antra running can show how much effort

you need to put for income and in that antra how much expense you

will have. If for that antra points of 12th are higher then there

might be more expenses than income.

 

In your chart now check closely. For current Antra.

 

For 4th house Mercury is LOE so it does not matter how many points

Mercury has it is eager to give results for 4th house. So its not

surpirse you might have gotten some luxuries. It also has highest

points for 4th house.

 

Now also see points for 5th house for Mercury. Its giving only 5

points in the worksheet. Means that there can be change in job.

 

Now check points of 10th, 11th and 12th. Here you can see points of

10th are 7, 11th = 17 and 12th = 20. So here this is showing me that

you will might not have high authority (high authority means more

work and more stress) here points are low, the COMPARED TO THAT you r

getting very good income. Points are 17 much higher than 12 and for

12th house points are even higher 20 points. So from that I can

deduct that maybe you bought a house, change in job, and high expense

maybe because of house so you might spend money behind that. Now

again MErcury is LOD for 12th house so its expenses for better things

i.e. you will get more comfort as 12th house is for moksha and also

for pleasures so being LOD or LOE it will give u happiness and

pleasure ....

 

Now you can go ahead and do the same for KEtu period.

 

Ketu is samdharmi to Mars and Sun. For the 4th house Mars is giving

1 bindus and Sun is giving 3 bindus. So mars will act more like

Sun. Now Sun is LOD for 11th hosue so again better income and better

for 3rd house so more parakram.

 

Now compare ketu antra with mercury. In mercury you had higher

expenses but in ketu antra expenses will fall down, income will be

much better than you made in Mercury antra so more savings.

 

Please make your chart with Krushnas ayanamsa, Cast your worksheet

and try to match the events.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " z1e1b1r1a "

<z1e1b1r1a> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Ash and Margarita,

>

> I went through the lessons and couldnt resist making about a

> prediction about my chart for change of job and/or change of place.

>

> I surmise I am due for change of job (for the better!!) and

residence

> during January/February 2004.

>

> Can u please confirm??

>

> thanx

>

> narayan