Detailed Analysis for Marriage - Manus Charts

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Dear Manu,

I am very happy that you attempted your chart. And a very good

attempt. It shows that you are following the system.

 

Manu, before going into Worksheet we need to check the status of

planets. By status I mean check its degrees (position in D charts),

navamsa, nakshatra it is in, samdharmi to which planets). We also

need to be clear that Timing of event is different from quality of

event.

 

First step would be see basic characteristics of a person. Here your

lagna has 26 points. So you are not adament or stubborn person.

However at the same time may need to be told that u are doing a good

job.

 

You have high level of intellegence I shall explain that below. You

may not take things blindly and would be very curious to know theory

and reasoning behind things.

 

Mars is aspecting your Moon making you a deligent and hard worker.

 

Mercury and Shani i.e. lords if lagna (self) and Father / Guru (9th)

house are in nav pancham i.e. 5:9 in Rasi. It means that you have

blessings of a Guru. This is very important. This can show that

your father can influence you or you may marry a girl selected by

your father. It show that you also have very good relation from your

father and he will help you.

 

Also check 1st and 3rd lords to see relation with mother. Here

Mercury and Sun are in 2:12 in Rasi and 1:7 in navamsa. It means

that you might not see eye to eye with your mother and may have

difference of opinion with your mother.

 

Then You check for Zeroes in SAV. Here in your chart you have 1 zero

due to Mars in 4th house. This means that you may have more problems

owning properties as Mars is bhoomikarak or you might be living away

from father. 4th house is also House D for Marriage so again reduces

happiness. Zero in any house reduces happiness for that house.

(This also automatically gets covered in Worksheet when you add A+B+C

points for basic strength there 4th house is A for 9th house, B for

4th house and C for 12th house) so a Zero in 4th house will reduce

power for Mars for 9th, 4th and 12th house). 4th and 12th house also

are D and E for Marriage so Marriage looses power. I hope you

understand what I am saying here.

 

After getting better idea of the person

You should start from Karaks. That is why our house from Marriage

start with A i.e 2nd house.

 

So here

House A=2nd

House B=7th

House C=11th

House D=4th

House E=12th.

 

If you also study keenly you will see that House A lord is also

called Functional Karak. And from Natural Kal purush chart (nothing

but chart starting with Aries) the 2nd Hosue is Taurus and its lord

is Venus hence we can say that FK is Venus.

 

So from your chart which is Gemini lagna at 15Ge53.

 

Now Start with Karak. So FK is Moon (lord of 2nd house or LoA) and

its placed in House E (12th house) with 4 bindus. This moon is in

navamsa of Aries so it becomes samdharmi to Mars who is 6th lord. It

is in nakshatra of Rohini ruled by Moon and its aspected by Mars.

Here Moon being aspected by Mars also makes you a hard worker and

Sun, Moon and langa are in 3 spots in sign of shani in navamsa,

drekkhana and trimsamsa so you are also very intellegent.

 

Venus is Natural Karak for Marriage. Venus to Sun distance is 0.6

degees very close and you will notice they are in same navamsa also.

Venus is in nakshtra of Sun and in navamsa of shani. A venus so

close to sun looses its Venusian qualities and being in nakshtra of

Sun does not help either spoiling it further. This venus is not

aspected or conjoining Guru. This venus is not aspected by Shani.

However venus is aspected by Mars and Rahu. I just get the feeling

that you may become quite uncomfortable with women around...

 

This venus is aspected by 6th lord Mars. Venus is heavily afflicted

i.e by being so close to sun and quality of venus is again spoilt as

its in nakshatra ruled by sun. However at the same time Sun at

6deg28 in capricorn with lagna at 15Ge53 makes navamsa of Aquarius

(saturn sign) as well as takes Sun into Aquarius navamsa and

drekkhana of Capricorn. Again making you very intellegent.

 

Next check Karak House i.e. House A. Here you find 6th lord in in

2nd house. 6th lord is Mars.

 

Both Mars and Rahu are aspecting 8th house too.

 

Now check relation between lagna and 7th lord, Sun and its 7th lord,

Moon and its 7th lord and Venus and its 7th lord.

 

Here they are in

 

lagna Mercury Jupiter 1:7

Sun Saturn Moon 4:10

Moon Venus Mars 1:7

Venus Saturn Moon 4:10

 

1:7 means more struggle for control. 4:10 is differerence of opinion

however with or keeping respect.

 

Also check LoD and LoE and grahas in House D or E with more points.

These again get considered indirectly in Worksheet. But we are

checking their status here.

 

So LoD = Mercury and LoE = Venus. Graha in House D = Rahu and Graha

in House E is Moon with 4 bindus.

 

Here LoD is in House B. So its eager to give result. This mercury

is not touched by 6th lord and is in navamsa of Leo so Samdharmi to

Sun. LoE is Venus who as we know is spoilt due to distance from sun

and nakshatra of sun. Its having relation with 6th lord.

Here LoA is Moon and is in House E. So karak lord becomes even more

eager to give results and it is in its unccha sthan however its in

navamsa of 6th lord so thereby becoming samdharmi to 6th lord so it

cannot give pure happiness.

 

With all these things you can see if native can marry. Here I feel

that both the Karaks Venus and Moon are spoilt. Venus is too close

to sun and in nakshtra of Sun. So either there is delayed marriage

or if marriage is there it can be due to blessing of father.

 

Then if marriage happens then we check delay.

 

Before you can dwelve into worksheet you need to find delay.

Delay causing graha is Shani and the planet that that can check delay

is Guru. Other factors that can delay are zero points in SAV, 6th

lord and its relation etc etc (those are given in lesson).

 

Lets check status of Guru. Guru is in Mrug ruled by Mars its not in

sign of shani in rasi or navamsa nor in nakshatra of shani and its

not in libra so its having capacity to reduce delay of Shani.

 

This delay can be reduced if it conjoins or aspects Shani. In your

chart it is not aspecting nor conjoining Shani so Guru cant reduce if

there is any delay in the chart.

 

So lets check delay in your chart. Here if Shani aspects House A,B

and C or their lords then full delay. How much delay ? This is as

per the country you are in or desha, kaal paatra.

 

So in your case there is no delay due to Shani is not having any

control or apsect on all 3 primary house for marriage or their

lords.

 

Now that is only delay due to Shani. There can be other delays in a

chart (you can refer to lessons for delay in marriage). Here delay

in your chart is due to 1 Zero in 4th due to Mars and also can be due

planets relation to 6th lord. 6th lord in 2nd house reduces

happiness from Karak house for marriage. May create problems with

family members. Legal age to marry is 21 + delay due to SAV and

other factors which you consider seperately. So by the time delay

got over more than 1/2 of Mercury antra was over. So marriage will

not happen in Mercury antra which started on 2000/08 and lasted till

2003/03. So Marriage if it happens it will happen after the delay.

 

Now we need to find the Karyesh who can give result for marraige.

For that we go to worksheet. With the worksheet you can get the

power of planet to give result in the antar dasha.

So marriage if it happens will happen during the first strong

significator after delay.

 

When marriage happens a few houses work together. 7th house

obviously, 12th house (bed pleasures), 5th house (especially in west)

for love/friendship. So you need to study these houses also closely

when selecting proper karyesh.

 

For example sometimes points of 7th are high but 12th is low so

it " may " be possible that person may marry but may not be together

with his/her wife immediately after marraige. Here points tell you

but you have to understand what these points are telling.

 

After considering these things you consider Worksheet and see all

house i.e. ABCDE for 7th house as all house work together. You can

also check the Main lord as the Mahadasha lord shows the reason for

marriage and that is it. Its got nothing to do with timing but can

show reason for marraige.

 

As per your chart here are the points

 

House Signs SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve

Sa

1 Gemini 26 15 16 32 16 26 19

16

2 Cancer 22 27 16 27 13 18 16

15

3 Leo 29 16 19 16 13 18 25

13

4 Virgo 26 18 16 12 20 22 20

14

5 Libra 33 21 21 30 14 18 20

24

6 Scorpio 35 22 21 25 20 18 19

12

7 Sagittarius 20 17 18 14 16 19

17 10

8 Capricorn 21 17 14 22 20 18

25 13

9 Aquarius 25 18 15 24 19 19

18 8

10 Pisces 33 30 16 23 10 26 18

10

11 Aries 37 22 18 20 22 18 21

18

12 Taurus 30 9 17 12 14 18 18

19

 

 

So currently you are running antra of Ketu. Here Ketu is in sign of

pisces and nakshatra of Revathi ruled by Mercury. Now Mercury and

Guru are in 1:7 and natural enemies of each other. So it cannot give

marriage on its own as 7th house lord is guru (guru and merc are 1:7

in chart lorship and are enemies). So marriage is not naturally

possible in Ketu antra.

 

Next antra after ketu is that of Venus. This starts from 2004/03

thru 2007/03. Now Venus is LoE so by Virtue of LoE it can give

marriage.

 

After that we need to narrow the period down. For that we take the

antra and split it into 3 equal parts.

 

Since Venus is LoE it will want to quicky give results as its very

eager to give, however there is 1 zero in SAV so that may cause shift

delay from 1st 1/3rd sector to 2nd 1/3rd sector.

 

So Venus antra is from 2004/03/18 thru 2007/03/19. So 1 year each

sector. So I can say that 2005/03 thru 2006/03 you may marry.

 

After this you can narrow down by using Suns Transit over powerful

significator for 7th house.

 

Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

17 18 14 16 19 17 10

 

Since we have taken Venus we can take next 2 strongest significator

ie. Guru and Moon. So period of Guru and Moon i.e. when sun will

transit over Guru and Moon is from July 17th thru July 19th.

Similary you can find other probable dates i.e. Su, Mo, Me, Ju are

all strong and Rahu is in House D so we can consider Rahu also and

Ketu reprsnts Mercury and Guru both are strong.

 

Ideally we should avoid any contact of planets with 6th lord.

In this way you can find probable dates for Marriage and then based

on proper mahurat one can marry.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> I tried to analyze the chart from Marriage perspective:

>

> Here are my findings. Can you please kindly check them for me,

since

> I am very new to this type of analysis.

>

> The strengths of the planets for marriage are:

>

> Su=25, Mo=13, Ma=8, Me=15, Ju=19, Ve=27, Sa=10.

> Ve, Su and Ju aspect A/B/C, hence they cannot be used. Ke being

> Samdharmi to Su and Ju, the marriage might take place in antardasha

> of Ke.

>

> However, the marriage may give less than avg results due to the

> following reasons:

>

> Ve, karaka for marriage is combust.

> Ma, is lord of 6th house and is in opposition to Ve.

> Ve does not have benefic sight of Ju.

> Ashta. of Lagna=26, Ashta. of 7th = 20. Diff > 5.

> lord of house where Su is make 6:8 yoga.

>

> Doubt: What do I do for other two?

> Lagna lord and 7th lord (Ju:Me) make 7:7 yog.

> Lord of house where Mo is and lord of 7th house from it (Ve:Ma)

make

> 7:7 Yog.

> Should we give zero points to them?

>

> So, if we do give zero points. The total is only 10.

>

> Ma has 0 Ashta. points in 4th house.

>

>

> So, doesn't seem like a very healthy relationship.

>

> I wanted to know if this analysis technique gives some weight to

> Yogas like Parivartana Yoga and Vipreet Rajya Yoga.

> There is Pari. yog between Ju and Me and VRY between Su and Sa.

>

> Also, can any remedies be suggested.

>

> Thanks a lot.

>

> Regards,

> Manu

, " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > Good question. Actually there is a lesson (I do not remember

which

> > one of the top of my hat) but there is one which gives how to

> compute

> > the worksheet.

> >

> > Try to understand what is happening and why we are giving Basic

> > Strength to the planet in 10th from it.

> >

> > Say this is the situation. You have Shani in 4th house and Guru

in

> > the 7th house. Shani is with 3 bindus and Guru is with say 7

> bindus.

> >

> > Here now when we are studying for Marriage then step 1 is to

first

> > find out which are the primary houses for marriage. Those are

2,

> 7

> > and 11. So we look up the bindus in the SAV chart that you drew

> > using Lesson 1. Assume you are computing the strength for Shani

> for

> > 7th house. Now what you have to do first is look up SAV table

and

> > see

> >

> > 1) How many bindus is shani giving to 2nd, 7th and 11th house.

Add

> > those. That becomes the basic strength of Shani for 7th house.

> >

> > 2) Then you check if our friend Shani is controlling any planet.

> > Here Shani with 3 bindus means that it is malefic so and using

the

> > 4:10 thoery it will control the 7th hosue and planets in 7th

house

> > with more points. Here Guru is with 7 bindus so its benefic and

> > noble. So here Guru will giving its points to Shani i.e. (the

> > points that Guru has give in SAV to 2nd , 7th and 11th house) to

> > Shani and will Make Shani strong.

> > This Guru will then become Samdharmi to Shani. So say in case

> where

> > Shani cannot give results due to its aspect on any house and

Shani

> > himself not being LoD or LoE then if Gurus antra is there then

Guru

> > will come forward to give results for Shani or it will Work for

> Shani.

> >

> > 3) Then you see if if Shani is LoD or LoE. So if say Lagna were

to

> > be Scorpio then LoD is Shani is LoD. In that case its special as

> its

> > eager to give results so we add 5 bindus extra for 7th house.

> >

> > 4) Then we consider any planets in House D or E with more than 4

> > bindus. i.e. 5,6,7 or 8 bindus. We add their points also as

> planest

> > with more bindus in House D or E also become eager to give

> results.

> > Think of it as 4th house has been rented to a planet who is Noble

> and

> > a kind man. He will keep the house clean and will act as it it

> were

> > him who owned the place. (lol. .the best analogy I could quicky

> > think off)

> >

> > 5) After that you start to consider aspects. Say if Guru is in

7th

> > house it will aspect 11th house who is House C. If this guru had

7

> > points then it will take off 7 points provided Guru is not LoD or

> LoE.

> > Similarly you will check for all other planets. If a planet had

> low

> > points say Guru with 3 bindus then it will reduce from one house

> (7th

> > house) but will give those points back to 11th house. I think

> > someone had asked this question about malefic or benefic dristi.

> > First we check planets aspecting A,B and C houses.

> >

> > This is where it is used.

> >

> > 6) Next we check Aspects of Planets on planets. Say if Moon was

in

> > 10th house with 5 bindus and Shani in 4th with 3 bindus here Moon

> > would aspect Shani by -5 taking points off Shani making shani

> weaker.

> >

> > 7) Finally you would make adjustment of points got from 12th lord

> > from B. Here if you are studying say 5th house, you would deduct

> > points gained by the lord of 4th house (12th from B=5).

> >

> > 8) Total up all these points. This is the pure strength of a

> planet

> > to deliver its result.

> >

> > If Total is more than 12 then its got more power to deliver

better

> > results.

> >

> > Good Question.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > I will try and modify the software to also support Krushna's

> > > Ayanamsa. I wrote the software app to only support Lahiri

> initially.

> > >

> > > I have one more doubt. In one of the lessons, we determine the

> > > planetary strength and if there are more than 1 planets in the

> same

> > > house, we determine the most malefic. What is the comparison

that

> > > should be used to determine the most malefic. Also, if there

are

> > more

> > > than one planets in the 4th house from House A, then should we

> add

> > > the basic strengths of all these planets to the most malefic

> planet?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > In the file section there is a worksheet that gives you the

> value

> > > of

> > > > krushnas ayanamsa for the date entered.

> > > > I do not know which software you use but check for options to

> > > change

> > > > the value of ayanamsa.

> > > > If you are using JHL lite then you can enter difference from

> > lahiri

> > > > in custom ayanamsa. The worksheet also calculates the

> difference

> > > > from lahiri.

> > > > If you are using any other software then you can post the

> details

> > > to

> > > > the list and maybe some list members using the software you

use

> > can

> > > > direct you.

> > > >

> > > > On the same note also make sure you are using Varharamiras

BAV

> > > option.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I use a software to calculate the planet positions and the

> > > software

> > > > > uses Lahiri's Ayanamsa. Can I convert the planet positions

> > found

> > > by

> > > > > the software to Krushna's Ayanamsa?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please go to the file section and download the lessons

and

> go

> > > > > through

> > > > > > them and post your questions to the list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > About Gems, mantras etc those discussions have been held

in

> > the

> > > > > past

> > > > > > and are in the archives. You can also go through them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

> > Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am trying to use the new system of analysis.

Currently

> I

> > > use

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > other techniques which don't seem to be as accurate as

> this

> > > > one.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > think gradually I shall be able to know more about this

> > > system

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > shall use it to analyze charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please analyse the chart based on the following

> > > points:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Higher education (applied in 2001 but did not get

> > > scholarship).

> > > > > > > Possible Marriage date and will there be conjugal

> happiness.

> > > > > > > Will there be problems related to children since, Venus

> is

> > > > > > afflicted?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The period of 2001-2002 was not good. Had health

> problems,

> > > and

> > > > > > hence,

> > > > > > > parents were also worried. Had a lot of problems

related

> to

> > > job

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well. Can these attributes be ascertained by this

system

> in

> > > > some

> > > > > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does this technique also recommend any gem wearing?

Which

> > > gems

> > > > > > shall

> > > > > > > be suitable?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji,Margarita, Philippe and Manu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manu, please sign your name just as a matter of

> coursey.

> > > > Also

> > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > make an attempt on your chart and worksheet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You also have not specified what event you want list

> > > members

> > > > to

> > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > at.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I found your chart intersting.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since the event given by you were securing job and

> > > > enginnering

> > > > > > > > qualification here are my findings.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Your intellegence

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Checking position of lagna, sun and moon in sectors

of

> > > shani

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > a) Navamsa lagna is shani sign and Sun is in navamsa

> > lagna.

> > > > > > > > b) Sun is in sign of shani in drekkhana of capricorn

so

> > > > sector

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > c) In trisamsa none are in sector of shani. So you

> have

> > > > total

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 3.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So must be very intelligent with very good grasping

> power

> > > and

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > good memory.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2) In Navamsa lagna, sun and moon are in sign of

shani

> > and

> > > > mars

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > again showing your trend for choosing career. Shani

> and

> > > Mars

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > show engineering.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3) You have 1 zero given by Mars in your 4th house.

> Mars

> > > is

> > > > > > > > bhoomikarak.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4) Here is the interesting part. Lagna and 9th lord

> are

> > in

> > > > 5:9

> > > > > > yog

> > > > > > > > in Rasi so you have the blessings of father and

Guru.

> He

> > > > will

> > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > you through.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5) Venus is spoilt in your chart. Its within 1

degree

> of

> > > > your

> > > > > > sun

> > > > > > > > and in nakshatra of sun. So you will see that in

most

> > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > > charts Venus and Sun are together.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6) You said you secured your job on 16th Aug 1999.

> That

> > > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > antra of shani. Its got 12 points for 6th house, low

> > > points

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > house and its LoD for 11th. Shani is samdharmi to

> > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > I feel blessings of your father helped here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 7) Next antra is of Mercury after that. Mercury is

> karak

> > > for

> > > > > > job,

> > > > > > > > its LoE for 11th and for 11th house it has 22 points

as

> > > > > compared

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > Shani who had 18 points so its showing an upward

> trend.

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > only 10 points for 10th house so you might get

> increment

> > > but

> > > > no

> > > > > > > > change in authority as compared to shanis antra.

Both

> > > Shani

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Merc

> > > > > > > > have 10 points for 10th house. So authority remains

> > > similar

> > > > > > > however

> > > > > > > > income has gone up. Points in 6th house are high in

> both

> > > > cases

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > also for 5th house points are high. So I do not see

> any

> > > > change

> > > > > > > > happening except income which goes up. I think that

is

> > in

> > > > line

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > what you have said also.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8) Venus is spoilt, Venus not aspected on conjoining

> > guru,

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > in karak sthan for marriage, 1 zero in SAV given by

> Mars

> > > for

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > house can show break of relationship, lagna/7th,

> > moon/7th,

> > > > > > sun/7th

> > > > > > > > and venus/7th are in 1:7, 1:7, 4:10 and 4:10.

However

> > 1:9

> > > > > lords

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > in 5:9 so again u have blessing of Guru or father.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is the reason I took your chart is to see the

> effect

> > > of

> > > > > 1st

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 9th lords in 5:9.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Krushnaji and Margarita and Philippe can you please

> tell

> > me

> > > > if

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > nav pancham yog between lagna and 9th lord can

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) nulify the zero in 4th house

> > > > > > > > 2) and general blessings manefestation of this yog

for

> > > events

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > marriage for the native where karak is spoilt.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

, " Manu

> > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please analysis a chart using his birth

> > > information

> > > > > > below:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 16:10

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, India (28N34, 77E19).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Education Level: Electronics Engg.

> > > > > > > > > Job: Software professional. Job began on 16 Aug

1999.

> > No

> > > > > change

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > jobs, date of pay rise is around every april.

> > > > > > > > > Unmarried.

> > > > > > > > > Blessed with the support of parents.

> > > > > > > > > With God's grace, did not meet any major accident.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

Thank you so much for analyzing the chart is such detail. It was very

informative.

 

I also appreciate the concrete and unambiguous rules that this system

recommends.

 

However, I would like to also point that some of the astrologers to

whom I showed this chart came up with a different interpretation. And

it was due to the Parivartana Yoga and VRY.

 

I can understand that this system takes mutual placement into account

my means of points. However, I do not think Yogas like Parivartana

Yoga are being considered.

 

Let me try and explain:

 

It is mentioned that opposition of planets creates some kind of

conflict and that seems appropriate.

 

However, since in a parivartana, there is a mutual exchange of

lordship (in the chart, Ju, lord of 7th is in 1st and Me, lord of 1st

is in 7th), the coupling reinforces the strength of each of the

planets and the houses. [something like, I will take care of your

house, you take care of mine!].

 

Some books refer to this yoga (if between auspicious houses) as

Mahabhagya Parivartana Yoga.

 

Based on this, a Parivartana Yoga between house of native (1st) and

partner (7th) may be considered good.

 

If both houses are dustanas, the yoga is called Vipreet Rajya Yoga,

which is also good. There is Vipreet Raja Yoga between Sa and Su in

the chart. If the exchange is between auspicious and dustana house,

it causes hardships in life.

 

Kindly help in understanding these aspects in greater detail.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

 

 

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> I am very happy that you attempted your chart. And a very good

> attempt. It shows that you are following the system.

>

> Manu, before going into Worksheet we need to check the status of

> planets. By status I mean check its degrees (position in D charts),

> navamsa, nakshatra it is in, samdharmi to which planets). We also

> need to be clear that Timing of event is different from quality of

> event.

>

> First step would be see basic characteristics of a person. Here

your

> lagna has 26 points. So you are not adament or stubborn person.

> However at the same time may need to be told that u are doing a

good

> job.

>

> You have high level of intellegence I shall explain that below.

You

> may not take things blindly and would be very curious to know

theory

> and reasoning behind things.

>

> Mars is aspecting your Moon making you a deligent and hard worker.

>

> Mercury and Shani i.e. lords if lagna (self) and Father / Guru

(9th)

> house are in nav pancham i.e. 5:9 in Rasi. It means that you have

> blessings of a Guru. This is very important. This can show that

> your father can influence you or you may marry a girl selected by

> your father. It show that you also have very good relation from

your

> father and he will help you.

>

> Also check 1st and 3rd lords to see relation with mother. Here

> Mercury and Sun are in 2:12 in Rasi and 1:7 in navamsa. It means

> that you might not see eye to eye with your mother and may have

> difference of opinion with your mother.

>

> Then You check for Zeroes in SAV. Here in your chart you have 1

zero

> due to Mars in 4th house. This means that you may have more

problems

> owning properties as Mars is bhoomikarak or you might be living

away

> from father. 4th house is also House D for Marriage so again

reduces

> happiness. Zero in any house reduces happiness for that house.

> (This also automatically gets covered in Worksheet when you add

A+B+C

> points for basic strength there 4th house is A for 9th house, B for

> 4th house and C for 12th house) so a Zero in 4th house will reduce

> power for Mars for 9th, 4th and 12th house). 4th and 12th house

also

> are D and E for Marriage so Marriage looses power. I hope you

> understand what I am saying here.

>

> After getting better idea of the person

> You should start from Karaks. That is why our house from Marriage

> start with A i.e 2nd house.

>

> So here

> House A=2nd

> House B=7th

> House C=11th

> House D=4th

> House E=12th.

>

> If you also study keenly you will see that House A lord is also

> called Functional Karak. And from Natural Kal purush chart

(nothing

> but chart starting with Aries) the 2nd Hosue is Taurus and its lord

> is Venus hence we can say that FK is Venus.

>

> So from your chart which is Gemini lagna at 15Ge53.

>

> Now Start with Karak. So FK is Moon (lord of 2nd house or LoA) and

> its placed in House E (12th house) with 4 bindus. This moon is in

> navamsa of Aries so it becomes samdharmi to Mars who is 6th lord.

It

> is in nakshatra of Rohini ruled by Moon and its aspected by Mars.

> Here Moon being aspected by Mars also makes you a hard worker and

> Sun, Moon and langa are in 3 spots in sign of shani in navamsa,

> drekkhana and trimsamsa so you are also very intellegent.

>

> Venus is Natural Karak for Marriage. Venus to Sun distance is 0.6

> degees very close and you will notice they are in same navamsa

also.

> Venus is in nakshtra of Sun and in navamsa of shani. A venus so

> close to sun looses its Venusian qualities and being in nakshtra of

> Sun does not help either spoiling it further. This venus is not

> aspected or conjoining Guru. This venus is not aspected by Shani.

> However venus is aspected by Mars and Rahu. I just get the feeling

> that you may become quite uncomfortable with women around...

>

> This venus is aspected by 6th lord Mars. Venus is heavily

afflicted

> i.e by being so close to sun and quality of venus is again spoilt

as

> its in nakshatra ruled by sun. However at the same time Sun at

> 6deg28 in capricorn with lagna at 15Ge53 makes navamsa of Aquarius

> (saturn sign) as well as takes Sun into Aquarius navamsa and

> drekkhana of Capricorn. Again making you very intellegent.

>

> Next check Karak House i.e. House A. Here you find 6th lord in in

> 2nd house. 6th lord is Mars.

>

> Both Mars and Rahu are aspecting 8th house too.

>

> Now check relation between lagna and 7th lord, Sun and its 7th

lord,

> Moon and its 7th lord and Venus and its 7th lord.

>

> Here they are in

>

> lagna Mercury Jupiter 1:7

> Sun Saturn Moon 4:10

> Moon Venus Mars 1:7

> Venus Saturn Moon 4:10

>

> 1:7 means more struggle for control. 4:10 is differerence of

opinion

> however with or keeping respect.

>

> Also check LoD and LoE and grahas in House D or E with more

points.

> These again get considered indirectly in Worksheet. But we are

> checking their status here.

>

> So LoD = Mercury and LoE = Venus. Graha in House D = Rahu and

Graha

> in House E is Moon with 4 bindus.

>

> Here LoD is in House B. So its eager to give result. This mercury

> is not touched by 6th lord and is in navamsa of Leo so Samdharmi to

> Sun. LoE is Venus who as we know is spoilt due to distance from

sun

> and nakshatra of sun. Its having relation with 6th lord.

> Here LoA is Moon and is in House E. So karak lord becomes even

more

> eager to give results and it is in its unccha sthan however its in

> navamsa of 6th lord so thereby becoming samdharmi to 6th lord so it

> cannot give pure happiness.

>

> With all these things you can see if native can marry. Here I

feel

> that both the Karaks Venus and Moon are spoilt. Venus is too close

> to sun and in nakshtra of Sun. So either there is delayed marriage

> or if marriage is there it can be due to blessing of father.

>

> Then if marriage happens then we check delay.

>

> Before you can dwelve into worksheet you need to find delay.

> Delay causing graha is Shani and the planet that that can check

delay

> is Guru. Other factors that can delay are zero points in SAV, 6th

> lord and its relation etc etc (those are given in lesson).

>

> Lets check status of Guru. Guru is in Mrug ruled by Mars its not

in

> sign of shani in rasi or navamsa nor in nakshatra of shani and its

> not in libra so its having capacity to reduce delay of Shani.

>

> This delay can be reduced if it conjoins or aspects Shani. In your

> chart it is not aspecting nor conjoining Shani so Guru cant reduce

if

> there is any delay in the chart.

>

> So lets check delay in your chart. Here if Shani aspects House A,B

> and C or their lords then full delay. How much delay ? This is as

> per the country you are in or desha, kaal paatra.

>

> So in your case there is no delay due to Shani is not having any

> control or apsect on all 3 primary house for marriage or their

> lords.

>

> Now that is only delay due to Shani. There can be other delays in

a

> chart (you can refer to lessons for delay in marriage). Here delay

> in your chart is due to 1 Zero in 4th due to Mars and also can be

due

> planets relation to 6th lord. 6th lord in 2nd house reduces

> happiness from Karak house for marriage. May create problems with

> family members. Legal age to marry is 21 + delay due to SAV and

> other factors which you consider seperately. So by the time delay

> got over more than 1/2 of Mercury antra was over. So marriage will

> not happen in Mercury antra which started on 2000/08 and lasted

till

> 2003/03. So Marriage if it happens it will happen after the delay.

>

> Now we need to find the Karyesh who can give result for marraige.

> For that we go to worksheet. With the worksheet you can get the

> power of planet to give result in the antar dasha.

> So marriage if it happens will happen during the first strong

> significator after delay.

>

> When marriage happens a few houses work together. 7th house

> obviously, 12th house (bed pleasures), 5th house (especially in

west)

> for love/friendship. So you need to study these houses also

closely

> when selecting proper karyesh.

>

> For example sometimes points of 7th are high but 12th is low so

> it " may " be possible that person may marry but may not be together

> with his/her wife immediately after marraige. Here points tell you

> but you have to understand what these points are telling.

>

> After considering these things you consider Worksheet and see all

> house i.e. ABCDE for 7th house as all house work together. You can

> also check the Main lord as the Mahadasha lord shows the reason for

> marriage and that is it. Its got nothing to do with timing but can

> show reason for marraige.

>

> As per your chart here are the points

>

> House Signs SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve

> Sa

> 1 Gemini 26 15 16 32 16 26 19

> 16

> 2 Cancer 22 27 16 27 13 18 16

> 15

> 3 Leo 29 16 19 16 13 18 25

> 13

> 4 Virgo 26 18 16 12 20 22 20

> 14

> 5 Libra 33 21 21 30 14 18 20

> 24

> 6 Scorpio 35 22 21 25 20 18 19

> 12

> 7 Sagittarius 20 17 18 14 16 19

> 17 10

> 8 Capricorn 21 17 14 22 20 18

> 25 13

> 9 Aquarius 25 18 15 24 19 19

> 18 8

> 10 Pisces 33 30 16 23 10 26 18

> 10

> 11 Aries 37 22 18 20 22 18 21

> 18

> 12 Taurus 30 9 17 12 14 18 18

> 19

>

>

> So currently you are running antra of Ketu. Here Ketu is in sign

of

> pisces and nakshatra of Revathi ruled by Mercury. Now Mercury and

> Guru are in 1:7 and natural enemies of each other. So it cannot

give

> marriage on its own as 7th house lord is guru (guru and merc are

1:7

> in chart lorship and are enemies). So marriage is not naturally

> possible in Ketu antra.

>

> Next antra after ketu is that of Venus. This starts from 2004/03

> thru 2007/03. Now Venus is LoE so by Virtue of LoE it can give

> marriage.

>

> After that we need to narrow the period down. For that we take the

> antra and split it into 3 equal parts.

>

> Since Venus is LoE it will want to quicky give results as its very

> eager to give, however there is 1 zero in SAV so that may cause

shift

> delay from 1st 1/3rd sector to 2nd 1/3rd sector.

>

> So Venus antra is from 2004/03/18 thru 2007/03/19. So 1 year each

> sector. So I can say that 2005/03 thru 2006/03 you may marry.

>

> After this you can narrow down by using Suns Transit over powerful

> significator for 7th house.

>

> Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 17 18 14 16 19 17 10

>

> Since we have taken Venus we can take next 2 strongest significator

> ie. Guru and Moon. So period of Guru and Moon i.e. when sun will

> transit over Guru and Moon is from July 17th thru July 19th.

> Similary you can find other probable dates i.e. Su, Mo, Me, Ju are

> all strong and Rahu is in House D so we can consider Rahu also and

> Ketu reprsnts Mercury and Guru both are strong.

>

> Ideally we should avoid any contact of planets with 6th lord.

> In this way you can find probable dates for Marriage and then based

> on proper mahurat one can marry.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

, " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > I tried to analyze the chart from Marriage perspective:

> >

> > Here are my findings. Can you please kindly check them for me,

> since

> > I am very new to this type of analysis.

> >

> > The strengths of the planets for marriage are:

> >

> > Su=25, Mo=13, Ma=8, Me=15, Ju=19, Ve=27, Sa=10.

> > Ve, Su and Ju aspect A/B/C, hence they cannot be used. Ke being

> > Samdharmi to Su and Ju, the marriage might take place in

antardasha

> > of Ke.

> >

> > However, the marriage may give less than avg results due to the

> > following reasons:

> >

> > Ve, karaka for marriage is combust.

> > Ma, is lord of 6th house and is in opposition to Ve.

> > Ve does not have benefic sight of Ju.

> > Ashta. of Lagna=26, Ashta. of 7th = 20. Diff > 5.

> > lord of house where Su is make 6:8 yoga.

> >

> > Doubt: What do I do for other two?

> > Lagna lord and 7th lord (Ju:Me) make 7:7 yog.

> > Lord of house where Mo is and lord of 7th house from it (Ve:Ma)

> make

> > 7:7 Yog.

> > Should we give zero points to them?

> >

> > So, if we do give zero points. The total is only 10.

> >

> > Ma has 0 Ashta. points in 4th house.

> >

> >

> > So, doesn't seem like a very healthy relationship.

> >

> > I wanted to know if this analysis technique gives some weight to

> > Yogas like Parivartana Yoga and Vipreet Rajya Yoga.

> > There is Pari. yog between Ju and Me and VRY between Su and Sa.

> >

> > Also, can any remedies be suggested.

> >

> > Thanks a lot.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > Good question. Actually there is a lesson (I do not remember

> which

> > > one of the top of my hat) but there is one which gives how to

> > compute

> > > the worksheet.

> > >

> > > Try to understand what is happening and why we are giving

Basic

> > > Strength to the planet in 10th from it.

> > >

> > > Say this is the situation. You have Shani in 4th house and

Guru

> in

> > > the 7th house. Shani is with 3 bindus and Guru is with say 7

> > bindus.

> > >

> > > Here now when we are studying for Marriage then step 1 is to

> first

> > > find out which are the primary houses for marriage. Those are

> 2,

> > 7

> > > and 11. So we look up the bindus in the SAV chart that you

drew

> > > using Lesson 1. Assume you are computing the strength for

Shani

> > for

> > > 7th house. Now what you have to do first is look up SAV table

> and

> > > see

> > >

> > > 1) How many bindus is shani giving to 2nd, 7th and 11th house.

> Add

> > > those. That becomes the basic strength of Shani for 7th house.

> > >

> > > 2) Then you check if our friend Shani is controlling any

planet.

> > > Here Shani with 3 bindus means that it is malefic so and using

> the

> > > 4:10 thoery it will control the 7th hosue and planets in 7th

> house

> > > with more points. Here Guru is with 7 bindus so its benefic

and

> > > noble. So here Guru will giving its points to Shani i.e. (the

> > > points that Guru has give in SAV to 2nd , 7th and 11th house)

to

> > > Shani and will Make Shani strong.

> > > This Guru will then become Samdharmi to Shani. So say in case

> > where

> > > Shani cannot give results due to its aspect on any house and

> Shani

> > > himself not being LoD or LoE then if Gurus antra is there then

> Guru

> > > will come forward to give results for Shani or it will Work for

> > Shani.

> > >

> > > 3) Then you see if if Shani is LoD or LoE. So if say Lagna

were

> to

> > > be Scorpio then LoD is Shani is LoD. In that case its special

as

> > its

> > > eager to give results so we add 5 bindus extra for 7th house.

> > >

> > > 4) Then we consider any planets in House D or E with more than

4

> > > bindus. i.e. 5,6,7 or 8 bindus. We add their points also as

> > planest

> > > with more bindus in House D or E also become eager to give

> > results.

> > > Think of it as 4th house has been rented to a planet who is

Noble

> > and

> > > a kind man. He will keep the house clean and will act as it it

> > were

> > > him who owned the place. (lol. .the best analogy I could

quicky

> > > think off)

> > >

> > > 5) After that you start to consider aspects. Say if Guru is in

> 7th

> > > house it will aspect 11th house who is House C. If this guru

had

> 7

> > > points then it will take off 7 points provided Guru is not LoD

or

> > LoE.

> > > Similarly you will check for all other planets. If a planet

had

> > low

> > > points say Guru with 3 bindus then it will reduce from one

house

> > (7th

> > > house) but will give those points back to 11th house. I think

> > > someone had asked this question about malefic or benefic dristi.

> > > First we check planets aspecting A,B and C houses.

> > >

> > > This is where it is used.

> > >

> > > 6) Next we check Aspects of Planets on planets. Say if Moon

was

> in

> > > 10th house with 5 bindus and Shani in 4th with 3 bindus here

Moon

> > > would aspect Shani by -5 taking points off Shani making shani

> > weaker.

> > >

> > > 7) Finally you would make adjustment of points got from 12th

lord

> > > from B. Here if you are studying say 5th house, you would

deduct

> > > points gained by the lord of 4th house (12th from B=5).

> > >

> > > 8) Total up all these points. This is the pure strength of a

> > planet

> > > to deliver its result.

> > >

> > > If Total is more than 12 then its got more power to deliver

> better

> > > results.

> > >

> > > Good Question.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I will try and modify the software to also support Krushna's

> > > > Ayanamsa. I wrote the software app to only support Lahiri

> > initially.

> > > >

> > > > I have one more doubt. In one of the lessons, we determine

the

> > > > planetary strength and if there are more than 1 planets in

the

> > same

> > > > house, we determine the most malefic. What is the comparison

> that

> > > > should be used to determine the most malefic. Also, if there

> are

> > > more

> > > > than one planets in the 4th house from House A, then should

we

> > add

> > > > the basic strengths of all these planets to the most malefic

> > planet?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > In the file section there is a worksheet that gives you the

> > value

> > > > of

> > > > > krushnas ayanamsa for the date entered.

> > > > > I do not know which software you use but check for options

to

> > > > change

> > > > > the value of ayanamsa.

> > > > > If you are using JHL lite then you can enter difference

from

> > > lahiri

> > > > > in custom ayanamsa. The worksheet also calculates the

> > difference

> > > > > from lahiri.

> > > > > If you are using any other software then you can post the

> > details

> > > > to

> > > > > the list and maybe some list members using the software you

> use

> > > can

> > > > > direct you.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the same note also make sure you are using Varharamiras

> BAV

> > > > option.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manu

> Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I use a software to calculate the planet positions and

the

> > > > software

> > > > > > uses Lahiri's Ayanamsa. Can I convert the planet

positions

> > > found

> > > > by

> > > > > > the software to Krushna's Ayanamsa?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please go to the file section and download the lessons

> and

> > go

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > them and post your questions to the list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > About Gems, mantras etc those discussions have been

held

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > past

> > > > > > > and are in the archives. You can also go through them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manu

> > > Batura "

> > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am trying to use the new system of analysis.

> Currently

> > I

> > > > use

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > other techniques which don't seem to be as accurate

as

> > this

> > > > > one.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > think gradually I shall be able to know more about

this

> > > > system

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > shall use it to analyze charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please analyse the chart based on the

following

> > > > points:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Higher education (applied in 2001 but did not get

> > > > scholarship).

> > > > > > > > Possible Marriage date and will there be conjugal

> > happiness.

> > > > > > > > Will there be problems related to children since,

Venus

> > is

> > > > > > > afflicted?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The period of 2001-2002 was not good. Had health

> > problems,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > hence,

> > > > > > > > parents were also worried. Had a lot of problems

> related

> > to

> > > > job

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > well. Can these attributes be ascertained by this

> system

> > in

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Does this technique also recommend any gem wearing?

> Which

> > > > gems

> > > > > > > shall

> > > > > > > > be suitable?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji,Margarita, Philippe and Manu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manu, please sign your name just as a matter of

> > coursey.

> > > > > Also

> > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > make an attempt on your chart and worksheet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You also have not specified what event you want

list

> > > > members

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > at.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I found your chart intersting.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since the event given by you were securing job and

> > > > > enginnering

> > > > > > > > > qualification here are my findings.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Your intellegence

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Checking position of lagna, sun and moon in sectors

> of

> > > > shani

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > a) Navamsa lagna is shani sign and Sun is in

navamsa

> > > lagna.

> > > > > > > > > b) Sun is in sign of shani in drekkhana of

capricorn

> so

> > > > > sector

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > c) In trisamsa none are in sector of shani. So you

> > have

> > > > > total

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > 3.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So must be very intelligent with very good grasping

> > power

> > > > and

> > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > good memory.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2) In Navamsa lagna, sun and moon are in sign of

> shani

> > > and

> > > > > mars

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > again showing your trend for choosing career.

Shani

> > and

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > show engineering.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3) You have 1 zero given by Mars in your 4th

house.

> > Mars

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > bhoomikarak.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) Here is the interesting part. Lagna and 9th

lord

> > are

> > > in

> > > > > 5:9

> > > > > > > yog

> > > > > > > > > in Rasi so you have the blessings of father and

> Guru.

> > He

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > you through.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) Venus is spoilt in your chart. Its within 1

> degree

> > of

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > sun

> > > > > > > > > and in nakshatra of sun. So you will see that in

> most

> > > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > > > charts Venus and Sun are together.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6) You said you secured your job on 16th Aug 1999.

> > That

> > > > was

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > antra of shani. Its got 12 points for 6th house,

low

> > > > points

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > > house and its LoD for 11th. Shani is samdharmi to

> > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > I feel blessings of your father helped here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 7) Next antra is of Mercury after that. Mercury is

> > karak

> > > > for

> > > > > > > job,

> > > > > > > > > its LoE for 11th and for 11th house it has 22

points

> as

> > > > > > compared

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > Shani who had 18 points so its showing an upward

> > trend.

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > only 10 points for 10th house so you might get

> > increment

> > > > but

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > change in authority as compared to shanis antra.

> Both

> > > > Shani

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Merc

> > > > > > > > > have 10 points for 10th house. So authority

remains

> > > > similar

> > > > > > > > however

> > > > > > > > > income has gone up. Points in 6th house are high

in

> > both

> > > > > cases

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > also for 5th house points are high. So I do not

see

> > any

> > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > happening except income which goes up. I think

that

> is

> > > in

> > > > > line

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > what you have said also.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8) Venus is spoilt, Venus not aspected on

conjoining

> > > guru,

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > in karak sthan for marriage, 1 zero in SAV given by

> > Mars

> > > > for

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > house can show break of relationship, lagna/7th,

> > > moon/7th,

> > > > > > > sun/7th

> > > > > > > > > and venus/7th are in 1:7, 1:7, 4:10 and 4:10.

> However

> > > 1:9

> > > > > > lords

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > in 5:9 so again u have blessing of Guru or father.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is the reason I took your chart is to see the

> > effect

> > > > of

> > > > > > 1st

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 9th lords in 5:9.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Krushnaji and Margarita and Philippe can you please

> > tell

> > > me

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > nav pancham yog between lagna and 9th lord can

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) nulify the zero in 4th house

> > > > > > > > > 2) and general blessings manefestation of this yog

> for

> > > > events

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > marriage for the native where karak is spoilt.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> , " Manu

> > > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you please analysis a chart using his birth

> > > > information

> > > > > > > below:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 16:10

> > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, India (28N34, 77E19).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Education Level: Electronics Engg.

> > > > > > > > > > Job: Software professional. Job began on 16 Aug

> 1999.

> > > No

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > jobs, date of pay rise is around every april.

> > > > > > > > > > Unmarried.

> > > > > > > > > > Blessed with the support of parents.

> > > > > > > > > > With God's grace, did not meet any major accident.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.

[Guest guest]

Dear Manu,

 

Strength of planet to give result is found by Worksheet. Worksheet

is derived from SAV and SAV is derived from BAV.

 

Please go through the lesson on Multiplication factor. Timing of

event and the power that planet gets is from Worksheet. Sign

placement is for getting an idea for quantum or the result and has

got nothing to do with timing.

Please seperate the 2 topics.

The question of When so and so will get married is very different

from what will be the quality of married life ?

 

Recently Philippe and Margartia had an interesting discussion on

multiplication factor.

 

In your case Guru is in lagna with 4 bindus and Mercury is in 7th

with 3 bindus. We use these in the worksheet.

 

Now you also know planets in 1:7 are enemies. So if you also notice

in my analysis of your chart you can see why I did not select Ketu to

give results. Ketu is in pisces and in nakshatra of Revathi ruled by

mercury so Ketu becomes samdharmi to Guru and Mercury who are in 1:7.

 

Please also study the lesson on samdharmi and try to understand

Natural Samdharmi. For example Shani and Venus are natural samdharmi

and Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun are again natural samdharmi. If

you observe closeley they are yogakaraks for each others lagna.

 

Now in this system say if Venus is unable to give results and shanis

antra is running then Shani can come forwared to deliver the

results. Similarly for Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun.

 

However also mark this part, that IF Shani and Venus are placed in

1:7 or Mars and Moon or Mars and Sun are placed in 1:7 in RASI or

NAVAMSA then they will NOT act samdharmi.

 

In your chart Guru is in sign of mercury and Mercury is in Sign of

Guru and they are on 1:7. Now please refer to lesson 26 and you will

see the multiplication factor table.

 

Now Guru in sign of Gemini gets a multiplicaton factor of 0.5 and

Mercury in sign of Sagittarius gets a multiplication factor of 1.0.

 

This will show you how results will be felt.

 

Now you have also commented on Vipareet Raj yog. That is possible

when 3rd lord is in 6th or 6th lord is in 8th or 8th lord in 12th.

 

Again 3rd lord we say once we know what lagna is. That is convered

with BAV.

 

With this system we are looking at each planet from 8 different

angles. i.e. From lagna, Sun, Moon, Mars, Merc, Guru, Venus and

Saturn.

 

Also it depends on your question. Your questions focus was on

marriage and timing of Marriage ? That was addressed in my mail.

 

Quality of marriage life or is there going to be divorse etc was not

addressed. That is quality of marritial life.

 

You have then again discussed parivartan between Sun and Shani.

Again they are 1:7 lords.

 

It is said that with parivartan yog one raises to great heights but

at the cost of someone else. That has got nothing to do with timing

of marriage ?

 

For rise in authority the House Focus is 10th house. I have not seen

any system that give you strength of planet i.e. All planets for all

12 house at a glance.

 

In this system actually planets in neecha and with low points give

better results as compared to planets in exaltation with more

points. A chart was discussed in great detail and its there in the

archives.

 

As per this system when a planet is in its unccha rashi then the

multiplication facotor is higher but that part i.e. lesson 26 has got

nothing to do with Timing the results but its got more to do with

Quantum or how easily things will happen.

 

Even jaimini has commented in his classic Upadesa Sutra that Tasmin

unccha neecha va shrimantha. MEaning planets in unccha or neecha.

In this sytem its better to have planets in neecha and with low

points but its better to have planets in their unccha rashi in D-

Charts.

 

So I can say in the end is that for finding the proper Karyesh

relative positioning of planets is used and thats given by Maharishis

Varahamria and Parasara i.e BAV, SAV and then we use those in

Worksheet and the final strenght we get that is used for timing

results.

 

The quality of results is based on sign positioning. For that we use

Multiplication factor. If Guru say was in Cancer with 11 points for

7th house in Worksheet and assume its happy marriage and other

factors are also ok then GURU WILL NOT GIVE MARRIAGE Despite being in

Cancer as in Worksheet it has 11 points.

 

At the same time if Guru were to be in Capricorn and with 20 points

in Worksheet highest for 7th house and if its happy marriage and its

antra comes then Guru will give result.

 

So till here ends the timing of results part. Next u can judge the

quality where u use the multiplication factor of Guru in Capricorn

with 0.5. So the result will " FEEL " as if Guru were with 10 points.

 

Parivartan Yog is also dependent on Lagna. Once you know the lagna

then you know who rules 3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th house.

 

My only confusion in your chart is the selection of the 1/3rd

sector. See you have the blessing of your father that is nav pancham

yog and if that is there then you will marry as per your fathers

wishes or they will help you to find your wife. If that happens then

the marriage can happen in the 1st 1/3rd sector itself of Venus.

 

I hope Krushnaji or Margarita will clarify that.

 

I hope its clear that Parivartan means exachange of signs. sign

placement has got nothing to do with timing as per this system

however its got a lot to do with quality or the feel or easily or

difficulty one will have.

 

We had given an analogy to take an event to reach the station. If

points are good the the person will reach the station. Now if that

person was say Guru in Cancer then as hes coming out of the house the

neighebour might give him a lift but if that person again Guru were

to be in capricorn then when he comes out of his house it will be

raining, he will start the car but car wont start, he will get wet

might have to struggle in bus but FINALLY HE WILL REACH.

 

So reaching the station IN BOTH CASES WILL HAPPEN but the JOURNEY IS

WHAT SIGNPLACEMENT SHOWS.

 

For Vipareet Raj Yog again you are considering relative positioning

of planets from Lagna. For example 3rd lord in 6th. You can only

know 3rd lord once you know what the lagna is and in 6th house means

you get that from distributing the points of the 3rd lord in BAV. So

that is simple explanation.

 

Manu, the final strength is in the worksheet for timing of event. I

suggest you do not mix systems as you will get confused.

 

Even all laws given in the classics can be understood well with the

ABCD and E houses.

 

In the end I want to say that this is a complete system and each and

everything is covered.

 

 

I hope I have answered your question.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thank you so much for analyzing the chart is such detail. It was

very

> informative.

>

> I also appreciate the concrete and unambiguous rules that this

system

> recommends.

>

> However, I would like to also point that some of the astrologers to

> whom I showed this chart came up with a different interpretation.

And

> it was due to the Parivartana Yoga and VRY.

>

> I can understand that this system takes mutual placement into

account

> my means of points. However, I do not think Yogas like Parivartana

> Yoga are being considered.

>

> Let me try and explain:

>

> It is mentioned that opposition of planets creates some kind of

> conflict and that seems appropriate.

>

> However, since in a parivartana, there is a mutual exchange of

> lordship (in the chart, Ju, lord of 7th is in 1st and Me, lord of

1st

> is in 7th), the coupling reinforces the strength of each of the

> planets and the houses. [something like, I will take care of your

> house, you take care of mine!].

>

> Some books refer to this yoga (if between auspicious houses) as

> Mahabhagya Parivartana Yoga.

>

> Based on this, a Parivartana Yoga between house of native (1st) and

> partner (7th) may be considered good.

>

> If both houses are dustanas, the yoga is called Vipreet Rajya Yoga,

> which is also good. There is Vipreet Raja Yoga between Sa and Su in

> the chart. If the exchange is between auspicious and dustana house,

> it causes hardships in life.

>

> Kindly help in understanding these aspects in greater detail.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

>

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > I am very happy that you attempted your chart. And a very good

> > attempt. It shows that you are following the system.

> >

> > Manu, before going into Worksheet we need to check the status of

> > planets. By status I mean check its degrees (position in D

charts),

> > navamsa, nakshatra it is in, samdharmi to which planets). We

also

> > need to be clear that Timing of event is different from quality

of

> > event.

> >

> > First step would be see basic characteristics of a person. Here

> your

> > lagna has 26 points. So you are not adament or stubborn person.

> > However at the same time may need to be told that u are doing a

> good

> > job.

> >

> > You have high level of intellegence I shall explain that below.

> You

> > may not take things blindly and would be very curious to know

> theory

> > and reasoning behind things.

> >

> > Mars is aspecting your Moon making you a deligent and hard

worker.

> >

> > Mercury and Shani i.e. lords if lagna (self) and Father / Guru

> (9th)

> > house are in nav pancham i.e. 5:9 in Rasi. It means that you

have

> > blessings of a Guru. This is very important. This can show that

> > your father can influence you or you may marry a girl selected by

> > your father. It show that you also have very good relation from

> your

> > father and he will help you.

> >

> > Also check 1st and 3rd lords to see relation with mother. Here

> > Mercury and Sun are in 2:12 in Rasi and 1:7 in navamsa. It means

> > that you might not see eye to eye with your mother and may have

> > difference of opinion with your mother.

> >

> > Then You check for Zeroes in SAV. Here in your chart you have 1

> zero

> > due to Mars in 4th house. This means that you may have more

> problems

> > owning properties as Mars is bhoomikarak or you might be living

> away

> > from father. 4th house is also House D for Marriage so again

> reduces

> > happiness. Zero in any house reduces happiness for that house.

> > (This also automatically gets covered in Worksheet when you add

> A+B+C

> > points for basic strength there 4th house is A for 9th house, B

for

> > 4th house and C for 12th house) so a Zero in 4th house will

reduce

> > power for Mars for 9th, 4th and 12th house). 4th and 12th house

> also

> > are D and E for Marriage so Marriage looses power. I hope you

> > understand what I am saying here.

> >

> > After getting better idea of the person

> > You should start from Karaks. That is why our house from

Marriage

> > start with A i.e 2nd house.

> >

> > So here

> > House A=2nd

> > House B=7th

> > House C=11th

> > House D=4th

> > House E=12th.

> >

> > If you also study keenly you will see that House A lord is also

> > called Functional Karak. And from Natural Kal purush chart

> (nothing

> > but chart starting with Aries) the 2nd Hosue is Taurus and its

lord

> > is Venus hence we can say that FK is Venus.

> >

> > So from your chart which is Gemini lagna at 15Ge53.

> >

> > Now Start with Karak. So FK is Moon (lord of 2nd house or LoA)

and

> > its placed in House E (12th house) with 4 bindus. This moon is

in

> > navamsa of Aries so it becomes samdharmi to Mars who is 6th

lord.

> It

> > is in nakshatra of Rohini ruled by Moon and its aspected by

Mars.

> > Here Moon being aspected by Mars also makes you a hard worker and

> > Sun, Moon and langa are in 3 spots in sign of shani in navamsa,

> > drekkhana and trimsamsa so you are also very intellegent.

> >

> > Venus is Natural Karak for Marriage. Venus to Sun distance is

0.6

> > degees very close and you will notice they are in same navamsa

> also.

> > Venus is in nakshtra of Sun and in navamsa of shani. A venus so

> > close to sun looses its Venusian qualities and being in nakshtra

of

> > Sun does not help either spoiling it further. This venus is not

> > aspected or conjoining Guru. This venus is not aspected by

Shani.

> > However venus is aspected by Mars and Rahu. I just get the

feeling

> > that you may become quite uncomfortable with women around...

> >

> > This venus is aspected by 6th lord Mars. Venus is heavily

> afflicted

> > i.e by being so close to sun and quality of venus is again spoilt

> as

> > its in nakshatra ruled by sun. However at the same time Sun at

> > 6deg28 in capricorn with lagna at 15Ge53 makes navamsa of

Aquarius

> > (saturn sign) as well as takes Sun into Aquarius navamsa and

> > drekkhana of Capricorn. Again making you very intellegent.

> >

> > Next check Karak House i.e. House A. Here you find 6th lord in

in

> > 2nd house. 6th lord is Mars.

> >

> > Both Mars and Rahu are aspecting 8th house too.

> >

> > Now check relation between lagna and 7th lord, Sun and its 7th

> lord,

> > Moon and its 7th lord and Venus and its 7th lord.

> >

> > Here they are in

> >

> > lagna Mercury Jupiter 1:7

> > Sun Saturn Moon 4:10

> > Moon Venus Mars 1:7

> > Venus Saturn Moon 4:10

> >

> > 1:7 means more struggle for control. 4:10 is differerence of

> opinion

> > however with or keeping respect.

> >

> > Also check LoD and LoE and grahas in House D or E with more

> points.

> > These again get considered indirectly in Worksheet. But we are

> > checking their status here.

> >

> > So LoD = Mercury and LoE = Venus. Graha in House D = Rahu and

> Graha

> > in House E is Moon with 4 bindus.

> >

> > Here LoD is in House B. So its eager to give result. This

mercury

> > is not touched by 6th lord and is in navamsa of Leo so Samdharmi

to

> > Sun. LoE is Venus who as we know is spoilt due to distance from

> sun

> > and nakshatra of sun. Its having relation with 6th lord.

> > Here LoA is Moon and is in House E. So karak lord becomes even

> more

> > eager to give results and it is in its unccha sthan however its

in

> > navamsa of 6th lord so thereby becoming samdharmi to 6th lord so

it

> > cannot give pure happiness.

> >

> > With all these things you can see if native can marry. Here I

> feel

> > that both the Karaks Venus and Moon are spoilt. Venus is too

close

> > to sun and in nakshtra of Sun. So either there is delayed

marriage

> > or if marriage is there it can be due to blessing of father.

> >

> > Then if marriage happens then we check delay.

> >

> > Before you can dwelve into worksheet you need to find delay.

> > Delay causing graha is Shani and the planet that that can check

> delay

> > is Guru. Other factors that can delay are zero points in SAV,

6th

> > lord and its relation etc etc (those are given in lesson).

> >

> > Lets check status of Guru. Guru is in Mrug ruled by Mars its not

> in

> > sign of shani in rasi or navamsa nor in nakshatra of shani and

its

> > not in libra so its having capacity to reduce delay of Shani.

> >

> > This delay can be reduced if it conjoins or aspects Shani. In

your

> > chart it is not aspecting nor conjoining Shani so Guru cant

reduce

> if

> > there is any delay in the chart.

> >

> > So lets check delay in your chart. Here if Shani aspects House

A,B

> > and C or their lords then full delay. How much delay ? This is

as

> > per the country you are in or desha, kaal paatra.

> >

> > So in your case there is no delay due to Shani is not having any

> > control or apsect on all 3 primary house for marriage or their

> > lords.

> >

> > Now that is only delay due to Shani. There can be other delays

in

> a

> > chart (you can refer to lessons for delay in marriage). Here

delay

> > in your chart is due to 1 Zero in 4th due to Mars and also can be

> due

> > planets relation to 6th lord. 6th lord in 2nd house reduces

> > happiness from Karak house for marriage. May create problems

with

> > family members. Legal age to marry is 21 + delay due to SAV and

> > other factors which you consider seperately. So by the time

delay

> > got over more than 1/2 of Mercury antra was over. So marriage

will

> > not happen in Mercury antra which started on 2000/08 and lasted

> till

> > 2003/03. So Marriage if it happens it will happen after the

delay.

> >

> > Now we need to find the Karyesh who can give result for marraige.

> > For that we go to worksheet. With the worksheet you can get the

> > power of planet to give result in the antar dasha.

> > So marriage if it happens will happen during the first strong

> > significator after delay.

> >

> > When marriage happens a few houses work together. 7th house

> > obviously, 12th house (bed pleasures), 5th house (especially in

> west)

> > for love/friendship. So you need to study these houses also

> closely

> > when selecting proper karyesh.

> >

> > For example sometimes points of 7th are high but 12th is low so

> > it " may " be possible that person may marry but may not be

together

> > with his/her wife immediately after marraige. Here points tell

you

> > but you have to understand what these points are telling.

> >

> > After considering these things you consider Worksheet and see all

> > house i.e. ABCDE for 7th house as all house work together. You

can

> > also check the Main lord as the Mahadasha lord shows the reason

for

> > marriage and that is it. Its got nothing to do with timing but

can

> > show reason for marraige.

> >

> > As per your chart here are the points

> >

> > House Signs SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju

Ve

> > Sa

> > 1 Gemini 26 15 16 32 16 26 19

> > 16

> > 2 Cancer 22 27 16 27 13 18 16

> > 15

> > 3 Leo 29 16 19 16 13 18 25

> > 13

> > 4 Virgo 26 18 16 12 20 22 20

> > 14

> > 5 Libra 33 21 21 30 14 18 20

> > 24

> > 6 Scorpio 35 22 21 25 20 18 19

> > 12

> > 7 Sagittarius 20 17 18 14 16 19

> > 17 10

> > 8 Capricorn 21 17 14 22 20 18

> > 25 13

> > 9 Aquarius 25 18 15 24 19 19

> > 18 8

> > 10 Pisces 33 30 16 23 10 26 18

> > 10

> > 11 Aries 37 22 18 20 22 18 21

> > 18

> > 12 Taurus 30 9 17 12 14 18 18

> > 19

> >

> >

> > So currently you are running antra of Ketu. Here Ketu is in sign

> of

> > pisces and nakshatra of Revathi ruled by Mercury. Now Mercury

and

> > Guru are in 1:7 and natural enemies of each other. So it cannot

> give

> > marriage on its own as 7th house lord is guru (guru and merc are

> 1:7

> > in chart lorship and are enemies). So marriage is not naturally

> > possible in Ketu antra.

> >

> > Next antra after ketu is that of Venus. This starts from 2004/03

> > thru 2007/03. Now Venus is LoE so by Virtue of LoE it can give

> > marriage.

> >

> > After that we need to narrow the period down. For that we take

the

> > antra and split it into 3 equal parts.

> >

> > Since Venus is LoE it will want to quicky give results as its

very

> > eager to give, however there is 1 zero in SAV so that may cause

> shift

> > delay from 1st 1/3rd sector to 2nd 1/3rd sector.

> >

> > So Venus antra is from 2004/03/18 thru 2007/03/19. So 1 year

each

> > sector. So I can say that 2005/03 thru 2006/03 you may marry.

> >

> > After this you can narrow down by using Suns Transit over

powerful

> > significator for 7th house.

> >

> > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > 17 18 14 16 19 17 10

> >

> > Since we have taken Venus we can take next 2 strongest

significator

> > ie. Guru and Moon. So period of Guru and Moon i.e. when sun will

> > transit over Guru and Moon is from July 17th thru July 19th.

> > Similary you can find other probable dates i.e. Su, Mo, Me, Ju

are

> > all strong and Rahu is in House D so we can consider Rahu also

and

> > Ketu reprsnts Mercury and Guru both are strong.

> >

> > Ideally we should avoid any contact of planets with 6th lord.

> > In this way you can find probable dates for Marriage and then

based

> > on proper mahurat one can marry.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > I tried to analyze the chart from Marriage perspective:

> > >

> > > Here are my findings. Can you please kindly check them for me,

> > since

> > > I am very new to this type of analysis.

> > >

> > > The strengths of the planets for marriage are:

> > >

> > > Su=25, Mo=13, Ma=8, Me=15, Ju=19, Ve=27, Sa=10.

> > > Ve, Su and Ju aspect A/B/C, hence they cannot be used. Ke being

> > > Samdharmi to Su and Ju, the marriage might take place in

> antardasha

> > > of Ke.

> > >

> > > However, the marriage may give less than avg results due to the

> > > following reasons:

> > >

> > > Ve, karaka for marriage is combust.

> > > Ma, is lord of 6th house and is in opposition to Ve.

> > > Ve does not have benefic sight of Ju.

> > > Ashta. of Lagna=26, Ashta. of 7th = 20. Diff > 5.

> > > lord of house where Su is make 6:8 yoga.

> > >

> > > Doubt: What do I do for other two?

> > > Lagna lord and 7th lord (Ju:Me) make 7:7 yog.

> > > Lord of house where Mo is and lord of 7th house from it (Ve:Ma)

> > make

> > > 7:7 Yog.

> > > Should we give zero points to them?

> > >

> > > So, if we do give zero points. The total is only 10.

> > >

> > > Ma has 0 Ashta. points in 4th house.

> > >

> > >

> > > So, doesn't seem like a very healthy relationship.

> > >

> > > I wanted to know if this analysis technique gives some weight

to

> > > Yogas like Parivartana Yoga and Vipreet Rajya Yoga.

> > > There is Pari. yog between Ju and Me and VRY between Su and Sa.

> > >

> > > Also, can any remedies be suggested.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > Good question. Actually there is a lesson (I do not remember

> > which

> > > > one of the top of my hat) but there is one which gives how to

> > > compute

> > > > the worksheet.

> > > >

> > > > Try to understand what is happening and why we are giving

> Basic

> > > > Strength to the planet in 10th from it.

> > > >

> > > > Say this is the situation. You have Shani in 4th house and

> Guru

> > in

> > > > the 7th house. Shani is with 3 bindus and Guru is with say 7

> > > bindus.

> > > >

> > > > Here now when we are studying for Marriage then step 1 is to

> > first

> > > > find out which are the primary houses for marriage. Those

are

> > 2,

> > > 7

> > > > and 11. So we look up the bindus in the SAV chart that you

> drew

> > > > using Lesson 1. Assume you are computing the strength for

> Shani

> > > for

> > > > 7th house. Now what you have to do first is look up SAV

table

> > and

> > > > see

> > > >

> > > > 1) How many bindus is shani giving to 2nd, 7th and 11th

house.

> > Add

> > > > those. That becomes the basic strength of Shani for 7th

house.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Then you check if our friend Shani is controlling any

> planet.

> > > > Here Shani with 3 bindus means that it is malefic so and

using

> > the

> > > > 4:10 thoery it will control the 7th hosue and planets in 7th

> > house

> > > > with more points. Here Guru is with 7 bindus so its benefic

> and

> > > > noble. So here Guru will giving its points to Shani i.e.

(the

> > > > points that Guru has give in SAV to 2nd , 7th and 11th house)

> to

> > > > Shani and will Make Shani strong.

> > > > This Guru will then become Samdharmi to Shani. So say in

case

> > > where

> > > > Shani cannot give results due to its aspect on any house and

> > Shani

> > > > himself not being LoD or LoE then if Gurus antra is there

then

> > Guru

> > > > will come forward to give results for Shani or it will Work

for

> > > Shani.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Then you see if if Shani is LoD or LoE. So if say Lagna

> were

> > to

> > > > be Scorpio then LoD is Shani is LoD. In that case its

special

> as

> > > its

> > > > eager to give results so we add 5 bindus extra for 7th

house.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Then we consider any planets in House D or E with more

than

> 4

> > > > bindus. i.e. 5,6,7 or 8 bindus. We add their points also as

> > > planest

> > > > with more bindus in House D or E also become eager to give

> > > results.

> > > > Think of it as 4th house has been rented to a planet who is

> Noble

> > > and

> > > > a kind man. He will keep the house clean and will act as it

it

> > > were

> > > > him who owned the place. (lol. .the best analogy I could

> quicky

> > > > think off)

> > > >

> > > > 5) After that you start to consider aspects. Say if Guru is

in

> > 7th

> > > > house it will aspect 11th house who is House C. If this guru

> had

> > 7

> > > > points then it will take off 7 points provided Guru is not

LoD

> or

> > > LoE.

> > > > Similarly you will check for all other planets. If a planet

> had

> > > low

> > > > points say Guru with 3 bindus then it will reduce from one

> house

> > > (7th

> > > > house) but will give those points back to 11th house. I

think

> > > > someone had asked this question about malefic or benefic

dristi.

> > > > First we check planets aspecting A,B and C houses.

> > > >

> > > > This is where it is used.

> > > >

> > > > 6) Next we check Aspects of Planets on planets. Say if Moon

> was

> > in

> > > > 10th house with 5 bindus and Shani in 4th with 3 bindus here

> Moon

> > > > would aspect Shani by -5 taking points off Shani making shani

> > > weaker.

> > > >

> > > > 7) Finally you would make adjustment of points got from 12th

> lord

> > > > from B. Here if you are studying say 5th house, you would

> deduct

> > > > points gained by the lord of 4th house (12th from B=5).

> > > >

> > > > 8) Total up all these points. This is the pure strength of a

> > > planet

> > > > to deliver its result.

> > > >

> > > > If Total is more than 12 then its got more power to deliver

> > better

> > > > results.

> > > >

> > > > Good Question.

> > > >

> > > > Hope that helps,

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I will try and modify the software to also support

Krushna's

> > > > > Ayanamsa. I wrote the software app to only support Lahiri

> > > initially.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have one more doubt. In one of the lessons, we determine

> the

> > > > > planetary strength and if there are more than 1 planets in

> the

> > > same

> > > > > house, we determine the most malefic. What is the

comparison

> > that

> > > > > should be used to determine the most malefic. Also, if

there

> > are

> > > > more

> > > > > than one planets in the 4th house from House A, then should

> we

> > > add

> > > > > the basic strengths of all these planets to the most

malefic

> > > planet?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > In the file section there is a worksheet that gives you

the

> > > value

> > > > > of

> > > > > > krushnas ayanamsa for the date entered.

> > > > > > I do not know which software you use but check for

options

> to

> > > > > change

> > > > > > the value of ayanamsa.

> > > > > > If you are using JHL lite then you can enter difference

> from

> > > > lahiri

> > > > > > in custom ayanamsa. The worksheet also calculates the

> > > difference

> > > > > > from lahiri.

> > > > > > If you are using any other software then you can post the

> > > details

> > > > > to

> > > > > > the list and maybe some list members using the software

you

> > use

> > > > can

> > > > > > direct you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the same note also make sure you are using

Varharamiras

> > BAV

> > > > > option.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

> > Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I use a software to calculate the planet positions and

> the

> > > > > software

> > > > > > > uses Lahiri's Ayanamsa. Can I convert the planet

> positions

> > > > found

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > the software to Krushna's Ayanamsa?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please go to the file section and download the

lessons

> > and

> > > go

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > them and post your questions to the list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > About Gems, mantras etc those discussions have been

> held

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > and are in the archives. You can also go through

them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

, " Manu

> > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am trying to use the new system of analysis.

> > Currently

> > > I

> > > > > use

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > other techniques which don't seem to be as accurate

> as

> > > this

> > > > > > one.

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > think gradually I shall be able to know more about

> this

> > > > > system

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > shall use it to analyze charts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please analyse the chart based on the

> following

> > > > > points:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Higher education (applied in 2001 but did not get

> > > > > scholarship).

> > > > > > > > > Possible Marriage date and will there be conjugal

> > > happiness.

> > > > > > > > > Will there be problems related to children since,

> Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > > > afflicted?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The period of 2001-2002 was not good. Had health

> > > problems,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > hence,

> > > > > > > > > parents were also worried. Had a lot of problems

> > related

> > > to

> > > > > job

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > well. Can these attributes be ascertained by this

> > system

> > > in

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Does this technique also recommend any gem wearing?

> > Which

> > > > > gems

> > > > > > > > shall

> > > > > > > > > be suitable?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji,Margarita, Philippe and Manu,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Manu, please sign your name just as a matter of

> > > coursey.

> > > > > > Also

> > > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > > make an attempt on your chart and worksheet.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You also have not specified what event you want

> list

> > > > > members

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > at.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I found your chart intersting.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Since the event given by you were securing job

and

> > > > > > enginnering

> > > > > > > > > > qualification here are my findings.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1) Your intellegence

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Checking position of lagna, sun and moon in

sectors

> > of

> > > > > shani

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Navamsa lagna is shani sign and Sun is in

> navamsa

> > > > lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > b) Sun is in sign of shani in drekkhana of

> capricorn

> > so

> > > > > > sector

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > c) In trisamsa none are in sector of shani. So

you

> > > have

> > > > > > total

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 3.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So must be very intelligent with very good

grasping

> > > power

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > good memory.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2) In Navamsa lagna, sun and moon are in sign of

> > shani

> > > > and

> > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > again showing your trend for choosing career.

> Shani

> > > and

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > show engineering.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3) You have 1 zero given by Mars in your 4th

> house.

> > > Mars

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > bhoomikarak.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4) Here is the interesting part. Lagna and 9th

> lord

> > > are

> > > > in

> > > > > > 5:9

> > > > > > > > yog

> > > > > > > > > > in Rasi so you have the blessings of father and

> > Guru.

> > > He

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > > you through.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5) Venus is spoilt in your chart. Its within 1

> > degree

> > > of

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > sun

> > > > > > > > > > and in nakshatra of sun. So you will see that in

> > most

> > > > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > > > > charts Venus and Sun are together.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 6) You said you secured your job on 16th Aug

1999.

> > > That

> > > > > was

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > antra of shani. Its got 12 points for 6th house,

> low

> > > > > points

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > > > house and its LoD for 11th. Shani is samdharmi

to

> > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > I feel blessings of your father helped here.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 7) Next antra is of Mercury after that. Mercury

is

> > > karak

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > job,

> > > > > > > > > > its LoE for 11th and for 11th house it has 22

> points

> > as

> > > > > > > compared

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > Shani who had 18 points so its showing an upward

> > > trend.

> > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > only 10 points for 10th house so you might get

> > > increment

> > > > > but

> > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > change in authority as compared to shanis antra.

> > Both

> > > > > Shani

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Merc

> > > > > > > > > > have 10 points for 10th house. So authority

> remains

> > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > however

> > > > > > > > > > income has gone up. Points in 6th house are high

> in

> > > both

> > > > > > cases

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > also for 5th house points are high. So I do not

> see

> > > any

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > happening except income which goes up. I think

> that

> > is

> > > > in

> > > > > > line

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > what you have said also.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8) Venus is spoilt, Venus not aspected on

> conjoining

> > > > guru,

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > in karak sthan for marriage, 1 zero in SAV given

by

> > > Mars

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > house can show break of relationship, lagna/7th,

> > > > moon/7th,

> > > > > > > > sun/7th

> > > > > > > > > > and venus/7th are in 1:7, 1:7, 4:10 and 4:10.

> > However

> > > > 1:9

> > > > > > > lords

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > in 5:9 so again u have blessing of Guru or

father.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This is the reason I took your chart is to see

the

> > > effect

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > 1st

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 9th lords in 5:9.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji and Margarita and Philippe can you

please

> > > tell

> > > > me

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > nav pancham yog between lagna and 9th lord can

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1) nulify the zero in 4th house

> > > > > > > > > > 2) and general blessings manefestation of this

yog

> > for

> > > > > events

> > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > marriage for the native where karak is spoilt.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manu

> > > > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please analysis a chart using his birth

> > > > > information

> > > > > > > > below:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 16:10

> > > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, India (28N34, 77E19).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Education Level: Electronics Engg.

> > > > > > > > > > > Job: Software professional. Job began on 16 Aug

> > 1999.

> > > > No

> > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > jobs, date of pay rise is around every april.

> > > > > > > > > > > Unmarried.

> > > > > > > > > > > Blessed with the support of parents.

> > > > > > > > > > > With God's grace, did not meet any major

accident.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

I think I require to understand this system properly before judging

and making any comments. Sorry about that.

 

Thanks a lot for describing the analysis in such detail.

 

Hopefully I will not introduce any bugs. I will also try and analyse

the horoscope from educational perspective. I would request you to

kindly check the analysis.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

>

> Strength of planet to give result is found by Worksheet. Worksheet

> is derived from SAV and SAV is derived from BAV.

>

> Please go through the lesson on Multiplication factor. Timing of

> event and the power that planet gets is from Worksheet. Sign

> placement is for getting an idea for quantum or the result and has

> got nothing to do with timing.

> Please seperate the 2 topics.

> The question of When so and so will get married is very different

> from what will be the quality of married life ?

>

> Recently Philippe and Margartia had an interesting discussion on

> multiplication factor.

>

> In your case Guru is in lagna with 4 bindus and Mercury is in 7th

> with 3 bindus. We use these in the worksheet.

>

> Now you also know planets in 1:7 are enemies. So if you also

notice

> in my analysis of your chart you can see why I did not select Ketu

to

> give results. Ketu is in pisces and in nakshatra of Revathi ruled

by

> mercury so Ketu becomes samdharmi to Guru and Mercury who are in

1:7.

>

> Please also study the lesson on samdharmi and try to understand

> Natural Samdharmi. For example Shani and Venus are natural

samdharmi

> and Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun are again natural samdharmi. If

> you observe closeley they are yogakaraks for each others lagna.

>

> Now in this system say if Venus is unable to give results and

shanis

> antra is running then Shani can come forwared to deliver the

> results. Similarly for Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun.

>

> However also mark this part, that IF Shani and Venus are placed in

> 1:7 or Mars and Moon or Mars and Sun are placed in 1:7 in RASI or

> NAVAMSA then they will NOT act samdharmi.

>

> In your chart Guru is in sign of mercury and Mercury is in Sign of

> Guru and they are on 1:7. Now please refer to lesson 26 and you

will

> see the multiplication factor table.

>

> Now Guru in sign of Gemini gets a multiplicaton factor of 0.5 and

> Mercury in sign of Sagittarius gets a multiplication factor of 1.0.

>

> This will show you how results will be felt.

>

> Now you have also commented on Vipareet Raj yog. That is possible

> when 3rd lord is in 6th or 6th lord is in 8th or 8th lord in 12th.

>

> Again 3rd lord we say once we know what lagna is. That is convered

> with BAV.

>

> With this system we are looking at each planet from 8 different

> angles. i.e. From lagna, Sun, Moon, Mars, Merc, Guru, Venus and

> Saturn.

>

> Also it depends on your question. Your questions focus was on

> marriage and timing of Marriage ? That was addressed in my mail.

>

> Quality of marriage life or is there going to be divorse etc was

not

> addressed. That is quality of marritial life.

>

> You have then again discussed parivartan between Sun and Shani.

> Again they are 1:7 lords.

>

> It is said that with parivartan yog one raises to great heights but

> at the cost of someone else. That has got nothing to do with

timing

> of marriage ?

>

> For rise in authority the House Focus is 10th house. I have not

seen

> any system that give you strength of planet i.e. All planets for

all

> 12 house at a glance.

>

> In this system actually planets in neecha and with low points give

> better results as compared to planets in exaltation with more

> points. A chart was discussed in great detail and its there in the

> archives.

>

> As per this system when a planet is in its unccha rashi then the

> multiplication facotor is higher but that part i.e. lesson 26 has

got

> nothing to do with Timing the results but its got more to do with

> Quantum or how easily things will happen.

>

> Even jaimini has commented in his classic Upadesa Sutra that Tasmin

> unccha neecha va shrimantha. MEaning planets in unccha or neecha.

> In this sytem its better to have planets in neecha and with low

> points but its better to have planets in their unccha rashi in D-

> Charts.

>

> So I can say in the end is that for finding the proper Karyesh

> relative positioning of planets is used and thats given by

Maharishis

> Varahamria and Parasara i.e BAV, SAV and then we use those in

> Worksheet and the final strenght we get that is used for timing

> results.

>

> The quality of results is based on sign positioning. For that we

use

> Multiplication factor. If Guru say was in Cancer with 11 points

for

> 7th house in Worksheet and assume its happy marriage and other

> factors are also ok then GURU WILL NOT GIVE MARRIAGE Despite being

in

> Cancer as in Worksheet it has 11 points.

>

> At the same time if Guru were to be in Capricorn and with 20 points

> in Worksheet highest for 7th house and if its happy marriage and

its

> antra comes then Guru will give result.

>

> So till here ends the timing of results part. Next u can judge the

> quality where u use the multiplication factor of Guru in Capricorn

> with 0.5. So the result will " FEEL " as if Guru were with 10 points.

>

> Parivartan Yog is also dependent on Lagna. Once you know the lagna

> then you know who rules 3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th house.

>

> My only confusion in your chart is the selection of the 1/3rd

> sector. See you have the blessing of your father that is nav

pancham

> yog and if that is there then you will marry as per your fathers

> wishes or they will help you to find your wife. If that happens

then

> the marriage can happen in the 1st 1/3rd sector itself of Venus.

>

> I hope Krushnaji or Margarita will clarify that.

>

> I hope its clear that Parivartan means exachange of signs. sign

> placement has got nothing to do with timing as per this system

> however its got a lot to do with quality or the feel or easily or

> difficulty one will have.

>

> We had given an analogy to take an event to reach the station. If

> points are good the the person will reach the station. Now if that

> person was say Guru in Cancer then as hes coming out of the house

the

> neighebour might give him a lift but if that person again Guru were

> to be in capricorn then when he comes out of his house it will be

> raining, he will start the car but car wont start, he will get wet

> might have to struggle in bus but FINALLY HE WILL REACH.

>

> So reaching the station IN BOTH CASES WILL HAPPEN but the JOURNEY

IS

> WHAT SIGNPLACEMENT SHOWS.

>

> For Vipareet Raj Yog again you are considering relative positioning

> of planets from Lagna. For example 3rd lord in 6th. You can only

> know 3rd lord once you know what the lagna is and in 6th house

means

> you get that from distributing the points of the 3rd lord in BAV.

So

> that is simple explanation.

>

> Manu, the final strength is in the worksheet for timing of event.

I

> suggest you do not mix systems as you will get confused.

>

> Even all laws given in the classics can be understood well with the

> ABCD and E houses.

>

> In the end I want to say that this is a complete system and each

and

> everything is covered.

>

>

> I hope I have answered your question.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

, " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Thank you so much for analyzing the chart is such detail. It was

> very

> > informative.

> >

> > I also appreciate the concrete and unambiguous rules that this

> system

> > recommends.

> >

> > However, I would like to also point that some of the astrologers

to

> > whom I showed this chart came up with a different interpretation.

> And

> > it was due to the Parivartana Yoga and VRY.

> >

> > I can understand that this system takes mutual placement into

> account

> > my means of points. However, I do not think Yogas like

Parivartana

> > Yoga are being considered.

> >

> > Let me try and explain:

> >

> > It is mentioned that opposition of planets creates some kind of

> > conflict and that seems appropriate.

> >

> > However, since in a parivartana, there is a mutual exchange of

> > lordship (in the chart, Ju, lord of 7th is in 1st and Me, lord of

> 1st

> > is in 7th), the coupling reinforces the strength of each of the

> > planets and the houses. [something like, I will take care of your

> > house, you take care of mine!].

> >

> > Some books refer to this yoga (if between auspicious houses) as

> > Mahabhagya Parivartana Yoga.

> >

> > Based on this, a Parivartana Yoga between house of native (1st)

and

> > partner (7th) may be considered good.

> >

> > If both houses are dustanas, the yoga is called Vipreet Rajya

Yoga,

> > which is also good. There is Vipreet Raja Yoga between Sa and Su

in

> > the chart. If the exchange is between auspicious and dustana

house,

> > it causes hardships in life.

> >

> > Kindly help in understanding these aspects in greater detail.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > I am very happy that you attempted your chart. And a very good

> > > attempt. It shows that you are following the system.

> > >

> > > Manu, before going into Worksheet we need to check the status

of

> > > planets. By status I mean check its degrees (position in D

> charts),

> > > navamsa, nakshatra it is in, samdharmi to which planets). We

> also

> > > need to be clear that Timing of event is different from quality

> of

> > > event.

> > >

> > > First step would be see basic characteristics of a person.

Here

> > your

> > > lagna has 26 points. So you are not adament or stubborn

person.

> > > However at the same time may need to be told that u are doing a

> > good

> > > job.

> > >

> > > You have high level of intellegence I shall explain that

below.

> > You

> > > may not take things blindly and would be very curious to know

> > theory

> > > and reasoning behind things.

> > >

> > > Mars is aspecting your Moon making you a deligent and hard

> worker.

> > >

> > > Mercury and Shani i.e. lords if lagna (self) and Father / Guru

> > (9th)

> > > house are in nav pancham i.e. 5:9 in Rasi. It means that you

> have

> > > blessings of a Guru. This is very important. This can show

that

> > > your father can influence you or you may marry a girl selected

by

> > > your father. It show that you also have very good relation

from

> > your

> > > father and he will help you.

> > >

> > > Also check 1st and 3rd lords to see relation with mother. Here

> > > Mercury and Sun are in 2:12 in Rasi and 1:7 in navamsa. It

means

> > > that you might not see eye to eye with your mother and may have

> > > difference of opinion with your mother.

> > >

> > > Then You check for Zeroes in SAV. Here in your chart you have

1

> > zero

> > > due to Mars in 4th house. This means that you may have more

> > problems

> > > owning properties as Mars is bhoomikarak or you might be living

> > away

> > > from father. 4th house is also House D for Marriage so again

> > reduces

> > > happiness. Zero in any house reduces happiness for that

house.

> > > (This also automatically gets covered in Worksheet when you add

> > A+B+C

> > > points for basic strength there 4th house is A for 9th house, B

> for

> > > 4th house and C for 12th house) so a Zero in 4th house will

> reduce

> > > power for Mars for 9th, 4th and 12th house). 4th and 12th

house

> > also

> > > are D and E for Marriage so Marriage looses power. I hope you

> > > understand what I am saying here.

> > >

> > > After getting better idea of the person

> > > You should start from Karaks. That is why our house from

> Marriage

> > > start with A i.e 2nd house.

> > >

> > > So here

> > > House A=2nd

> > > House B=7th

> > > House C=11th

> > > House D=4th

> > > House E=12th.

> > >

> > > If you also study keenly you will see that House A lord is also

> > > called Functional Karak. And from Natural Kal purush chart

> > (nothing

> > > but chart starting with Aries) the 2nd Hosue is Taurus and its

> lord

> > > is Venus hence we can say that FK is Venus.

> > >

> > > So from your chart which is Gemini lagna at 15Ge53.

> > >

> > > Now Start with Karak. So FK is Moon (lord of 2nd house or LoA)

> and

> > > its placed in House E (12th house) with 4 bindus. This moon is

> in

> > > navamsa of Aries so it becomes samdharmi to Mars who is 6th

> lord.

> > It

> > > is in nakshatra of Rohini ruled by Moon and its aspected by

> Mars.

> > > Here Moon being aspected by Mars also makes you a hard worker

and

> > > Sun, Moon and langa are in 3 spots in sign of shani in navamsa,

> > > drekkhana and trimsamsa so you are also very intellegent.

> > >

> > > Venus is Natural Karak for Marriage. Venus to Sun distance is

> 0.6

> > > degees very close and you will notice they are in same navamsa

> > also.

> > > Venus is in nakshtra of Sun and in navamsa of shani. A venus

so

> > > close to sun looses its Venusian qualities and being in

nakshtra

> of

> > > Sun does not help either spoiling it further. This venus is

not

> > > aspected or conjoining Guru. This venus is not aspected by

> Shani.

> > > However venus is aspected by Mars and Rahu. I just get the

> feeling

> > > that you may become quite uncomfortable with women around...

> > >

> > > This venus is aspected by 6th lord Mars. Venus is heavily

> > afflicted

> > > i.e by being so close to sun and quality of venus is again

spoilt

> > as

> > > its in nakshatra ruled by sun. However at the same time Sun at

> > > 6deg28 in capricorn with lagna at 15Ge53 makes navamsa of

> Aquarius

> > > (saturn sign) as well as takes Sun into Aquarius navamsa and

> > > drekkhana of Capricorn. Again making you very intellegent.

> > >

> > > Next check Karak House i.e. House A. Here you find 6th lord in

> in

> > > 2nd house. 6th lord is Mars.

> > >

> > > Both Mars and Rahu are aspecting 8th house too.

> > >

> > > Now check relation between lagna and 7th lord, Sun and its 7th

> > lord,

> > > Moon and its 7th lord and Venus and its 7th lord.

> > >

> > > Here they are in

> > >

> > > lagna Mercury Jupiter 1:7

> > > Sun Saturn Moon 4:10

> > > Moon Venus Mars 1:7

> > > Venus Saturn Moon 4:10

> > >

> > > 1:7 means more struggle for control. 4:10 is differerence of

> > opinion

> > > however with or keeping respect.

> > >

> > > Also check LoD and LoE and grahas in House D or E with more

> > points.

> > > These again get considered indirectly in Worksheet. But we are

> > > checking their status here.

> > >

> > > So LoD = Mercury and LoE = Venus. Graha in House D = Rahu and

> > Graha

> > > in House E is Moon with 4 bindus.

> > >

> > > Here LoD is in House B. So its eager to give result. This

> mercury

> > > is not touched by 6th lord and is in navamsa of Leo so

Samdharmi

> to

> > > Sun. LoE is Venus who as we know is spoilt due to distance

from

> > sun

> > > and nakshatra of sun. Its having relation with 6th lord.

> > > Here LoA is Moon and is in House E. So karak lord becomes even

> > more

> > > eager to give results and it is in its unccha sthan however its

> in

> > > navamsa of 6th lord so thereby becoming samdharmi to 6th lord

so

> it

> > > cannot give pure happiness.

> > >

> > > With all these things you can see if native can marry. Here I

> > feel

> > > that both the Karaks Venus and Moon are spoilt. Venus is too

> close

> > > to sun and in nakshtra of Sun. So either there is delayed

> marriage

> > > or if marriage is there it can be due to blessing of father.

> > >

> > > Then if marriage happens then we check delay.

> > >

> > > Before you can dwelve into worksheet you need to find delay.

> > > Delay causing graha is Shani and the planet that that can check

> > delay

> > > is Guru. Other factors that can delay are zero points in SAV,

> 6th

> > > lord and its relation etc etc (those are given in lesson).

> > >

> > > Lets check status of Guru. Guru is in Mrug ruled by Mars its

not

> > in

> > > sign of shani in rasi or navamsa nor in nakshatra of shani and

> its

> > > not in libra so its having capacity to reduce delay of Shani.

> > >

> > > This delay can be reduced if it conjoins or aspects Shani. In

> your

> > > chart it is not aspecting nor conjoining Shani so Guru cant

> reduce

> > if

> > > there is any delay in the chart.

> > >

> > > So lets check delay in your chart. Here if Shani aspects House

> A,B

> > > and C or their lords then full delay. How much delay ? This is

> as

> > > per the country you are in or desha, kaal paatra.

> > >

> > > So in your case there is no delay due to Shani is not having

any

> > > control or apsect on all 3 primary house for marriage or their

> > > lords.

> > >

> > > Now that is only delay due to Shani. There can be other delays

> in

> > a

> > > chart (you can refer to lessons for delay in marriage). Here

> delay

> > > in your chart is due to 1 Zero in 4th due to Mars and also can

be

> > due

> > > planets relation to 6th lord. 6th lord in 2nd house reduces

> > > happiness from Karak house for marriage. May create problems

> with

> > > family members. Legal age to marry is 21 + delay due to SAV

and

> > > other factors which you consider seperately. So by the time

> delay

> > > got over more than 1/2 of Mercury antra was over. So marriage

> will

> > > not happen in Mercury antra which started on 2000/08 and lasted

> > till

> > > 2003/03. So Marriage if it happens it will happen after the

> delay.

> > >

> > > Now we need to find the Karyesh who can give result for

marraige.

> > > For that we go to worksheet. With the worksheet you can get

the

> > > power of planet to give result in the antar dasha.

> > > So marriage if it happens will happen during the first strong

> > > significator after delay.

> > >

> > > When marriage happens a few houses work together. 7th house

> > > obviously, 12th house (bed pleasures), 5th house (especially in

> > west)

> > > for love/friendship. So you need to study these houses also

> > closely

> > > when selecting proper karyesh.

> > >

> > > For example sometimes points of 7th are high but 12th is low so

> > > it " may " be possible that person may marry but may not be

> together

> > > with his/her wife immediately after marraige. Here points tell

> you

> > > but you have to understand what these points are telling.

> > >

> > > After considering these things you consider Worksheet and see

all

> > > house i.e. ABCDE for 7th house as all house work together. You

> can

> > > also check the Main lord as the Mahadasha lord shows the reason

> for

> > > marriage and that is it. Its got nothing to do with timing but

> can

> > > show reason for marraige.

> > >

> > > As per your chart here are the points

> > >

> > > House Signs SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju

> Ve

> > > Sa

> > > 1 Gemini 26 15 16 32 16 26 19

> > > 16

> > > 2 Cancer 22 27 16 27 13 18 16

> > > 15

> > > 3 Leo 29 16 19 16 13 18 25

> > > 13

> > > 4 Virgo 26 18 16 12 20 22 20

> > > 14

> > > 5 Libra 33 21 21 30 14 18 20

> > > 24

> > > 6 Scorpio 35 22 21 25 20 18 19

> > > 12

> > > 7 Sagittarius 20 17 18 14 16 19

> > > 17 10

> > > 8 Capricorn 21 17 14 22 20 18

> > > 25 13

> > > 9 Aquarius 25 18 15 24 19 19

> > > 18 8

> > > 10 Pisces 33 30 16 23 10 26

18

> > > 10

> > > 11 Aries 37 22 18 20 22 18

21

> > > 18

> > > 12 Taurus 30 9 17 12 14 18

18

> > > 19

> > >

> > >

> > > So currently you are running antra of Ketu. Here Ketu is in

sign

> > of

> > > pisces and nakshatra of Revathi ruled by Mercury. Now Mercury

> and

> > > Guru are in 1:7 and natural enemies of each other. So it

cannot

> > give

> > > marriage on its own as 7th house lord is guru (guru and merc

are

> > 1:7

> > > in chart lorship and are enemies). So marriage is not

naturally

> > > possible in Ketu antra.

> > >

> > > Next antra after ketu is that of Venus. This starts from

2004/03

> > > thru 2007/03. Now Venus is LoE so by Virtue of LoE it can give

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > After that we need to narrow the period down. For that we take

> the

> > > antra and split it into 3 equal parts.

> > >

> > > Since Venus is LoE it will want to quicky give results as its

> very

> > > eager to give, however there is 1 zero in SAV so that may cause

> > shift

> > > delay from 1st 1/3rd sector to 2nd 1/3rd sector.

> > >

> > > So Venus antra is from 2004/03/18 thru 2007/03/19. So 1 year

> each

> > > sector. So I can say that 2005/03 thru 2006/03 you may marry.

> > >

> > > After this you can narrow down by using Suns Transit over

> powerful

> > > significator for 7th house.

> > >

> > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > 17 18 14 16 19 17 10

> > >

> > > Since we have taken Venus we can take next 2 strongest

> significator

> > > ie. Guru and Moon. So period of Guru and Moon i.e. when sun

will

> > > transit over Guru and Moon is from July 17th thru July 19th.

> > > Similary you can find other probable dates i.e. Su, Mo, Me, Ju

> are

> > > all strong and Rahu is in House D so we can consider Rahu also

> and

> > > Ketu reprsnts Mercury and Guru both are strong.

> > >

> > > Ideally we should avoid any contact of planets with 6th lord.

> > > In this way you can find probable dates for Marriage and then

> based

> > > on proper mahurat one can marry.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I tried to analyze the chart from Marriage perspective:

> > > >

> > > > Here are my findings. Can you please kindly check them for

me,

> > > since

> > > > I am very new to this type of analysis.

> > > >

> > > > The strengths of the planets for marriage are:

> > > >

> > > > Su=25, Mo=13, Ma=8, Me=15, Ju=19, Ve=27, Sa=10.

> > > > Ve, Su and Ju aspect A/B/C, hence they cannot be used. Ke

being

> > > > Samdharmi to Su and Ju, the marriage might take place in

> > antardasha

> > > > of Ke.

> > > >

> > > > However, the marriage may give less than avg results due to

the

> > > > following reasons:

> > > >

> > > > Ve, karaka for marriage is combust.

> > > > Ma, is lord of 6th house and is in opposition to Ve.

> > > > Ve does not have benefic sight of Ju.

> > > > Ashta. of Lagna=26, Ashta. of 7th = 20. Diff > 5.

> > > > lord of house where Su is make 6:8 yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Doubt: What do I do for other two?

> > > > Lagna lord and 7th lord (Ju:Me) make 7:7 yog.

> > > > Lord of house where Mo is and lord of 7th house from it

(Ve:Ma)

> > > make

> > > > 7:7 Yog.

> > > > Should we give zero points to them?

> > > >

> > > > So, if we do give zero points. The total is only 10.

> > > >

> > > > Ma has 0 Ashta. points in 4th house.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, doesn't seem like a very healthy relationship.

> > > >

> > > > I wanted to know if this analysis technique gives some weight

> to

> > > > Yogas like Parivartana Yoga and Vipreet Rajya Yoga.

> > > > There is Pari. yog between Ju and Me and VRY between Su and

Sa.

> > > >

> > > > Also, can any remedies be suggested.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > Good question. Actually there is a lesson (I do not

remember

> > > which

> > > > > one of the top of my hat) but there is one which gives how

to

> > > > compute

> > > > > the worksheet.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to understand what is happening and why we are giving

> > Basic

> > > > > Strength to the planet in 10th from it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Say this is the situation. You have Shani in 4th house and

> > Guru

> > > in

> > > > > the 7th house. Shani is with 3 bindus and Guru is with say

7

> > > > bindus.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here now when we are studying for Marriage then step 1 is

to

> > > first

> > > > > find out which are the primary houses for marriage. Those

> are

> > > 2,

> > > > 7

> > > > > and 11. So we look up the bindus in the SAV chart that you

> > drew

> > > > > using Lesson 1. Assume you are computing the strength for

> > Shani

> > > > for

> > > > > 7th house. Now what you have to do first is look up SAV

> table

> > > and

> > > > > see

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) How many bindus is shani giving to 2nd, 7th and 11th

> house.

> > > Add

> > > > > those. That becomes the basic strength of Shani for 7th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Then you check if our friend Shani is controlling any

> > planet.

> > > > > Here Shani with 3 bindus means that it is malefic so and

> using

> > > the

> > > > > 4:10 thoery it will control the 7th hosue and planets in

7th

> > > house

> > > > > with more points. Here Guru is with 7 bindus so its

benefic

> > and

> > > > > noble. So here Guru will giving its points to Shani i.e.

> (the

> > > > > points that Guru has give in SAV to 2nd , 7th and 11th

house)

> > to

> > > > > Shani and will Make Shani strong.

> > > > > This Guru will then become Samdharmi to Shani. So say in

> case

> > > > where

> > > > > Shani cannot give results due to its aspect on any house

and

> > > Shani

> > > > > himself not being LoD or LoE then if Gurus antra is there

> then

> > > Guru

> > > > > will come forward to give results for Shani or it will Work

> for

> > > > Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) Then you see if if Shani is LoD or LoE. So if say Lagna

> > were

> > > to

> > > > > be Scorpio then LoD is Shani is LoD. In that case its

> special

> > as

> > > > its

> > > > > eager to give results so we add 5 bindus extra for 7th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) Then we consider any planets in House D or E with more

> than

> > 4

> > > > > bindus. i.e. 5,6,7 or 8 bindus. We add their points also

as

> > > > planest

> > > > > with more bindus in House D or E also become eager to give

> > > > results.

> > > > > Think of it as 4th house has been rented to a planet who is

> > Noble

> > > > and

> > > > > a kind man. He will keep the house clean and will act as

it

> it

> > > > were

> > > > > him who owned the place. (lol. .the best analogy I could

> > quicky

> > > > > think off)

> > > > >

> > > > > 5) After that you start to consider aspects. Say if Guru

is

> in

> > > 7th

> > > > > house it will aspect 11th house who is House C. If this

guru

> > had

> > > 7

> > > > > points then it will take off 7 points provided Guru is not

> LoD

> > or

> > > > LoE.

> > > > > Similarly you will check for all other planets. If a

planet

> > had

> > > > low

> > > > > points say Guru with 3 bindus then it will reduce from one

> > house

> > > > (7th

> > > > > house) but will give those points back to 11th house. I

> think

> > > > > someone had asked this question about malefic or benefic

> dristi.

> > > > > First we check planets aspecting A,B and C houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is where it is used.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6) Next we check Aspects of Planets on planets. Say if

Moon

> > was

> > > in

> > > > > 10th house with 5 bindus and Shani in 4th with 3 bindus

here

> > Moon

> > > > > would aspect Shani by -5 taking points off Shani making

shani

> > > > weaker.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7) Finally you would make adjustment of points got from

12th

> > lord

> > > > > from B. Here if you are studying say 5th house, you would

> > deduct

> > > > > points gained by the lord of 4th house (12th from B=5).

> > > > >

> > > > > 8) Total up all these points. This is the pure strength of

a

> > > > planet

> > > > > to deliver its result.

> > > > >

> > > > > If Total is more than 12 then its got more power to deliver

> > > better

> > > > > results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope that helps,

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manu

> Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will try and modify the software to also support

> Krushna's

> > > > > > Ayanamsa. I wrote the software app to only support Lahiri

> > > > initially.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have one more doubt. In one of the lessons, we

determine

> > the

> > > > > > planetary strength and if there are more than 1 planets

in

> > the

> > > > same

> > > > > > house, we determine the most malefic. What is the

> comparison

> > > that

> > > > > > should be used to determine the most malefic. Also, if

> there

> > > are

> > > > > more

> > > > > > than one planets in the 4th house from House A, then

should

> > we

> > > > add

> > > > > > the basic strengths of all these planets to the most

> malefic

> > > > planet?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > In the file section there is a worksheet that gives you

> the

> > > > value

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > krushnas ayanamsa for the date entered.

> > > > > > > I do not know which software you use but check for

> options

> > to

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > the value of ayanamsa.

> > > > > > > If you are using JHL lite then you can enter difference

> > from

> > > > > lahiri

> > > > > > > in custom ayanamsa. The worksheet also calculates the

> > > > difference

> > > > > > > from lahiri.

> > > > > > > If you are using any other software then you can post

the

> > > > details

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > the list and maybe some list members using the software

> you

> > > use

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > direct you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the same note also make sure you are using

> Varharamiras

> > > BAV

> > > > > > option.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manu

> > > Batura "

> > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I use a software to calculate the planet positions

and

> > the

> > > > > > software

> > > > > > > > uses Lahiri's Ayanamsa. Can I convert the planet

> > positions

> > > > > found

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > the software to Krushna's Ayanamsa?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please go to the file section and download the

> lessons

> > > and

> > > > go

> > > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > them and post your questions to the list.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > About Gems, mantras etc those discussions have been

> > held

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > > and are in the archives. You can also go through

> them.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> , " Manu

> > > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am trying to use the new system of analysis.

> > > Currently

> > > > I

> > > > > > use

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > other techniques which don't seem to be as

accurate

> > as

> > > > this

> > > > > > > one.

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > think gradually I shall be able to know more

about

> > this

> > > > > > system

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shall use it to analyze charts.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you please analyse the chart based on the

> > following

> > > > > > points:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Higher education (applied in 2001 but did not get

> > > > > > scholarship).

> > > > > > > > > > Possible Marriage date and will there be conjugal

> > > > happiness.

> > > > > > > > > > Will there be problems related to children since,

> > Venus

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > afflicted?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The period of 2001-2002 was not good. Had health

> > > > problems,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > hence,

> > > > > > > > > > parents were also worried. Had a lot of problems

> > > related

> > > > to

> > > > > > job

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > well. Can these attributes be ascertained by this

> > > system

> > > > in

> > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Does this technique also recommend any gem

wearing?

> > > Which

> > > > > > gems

> > > > > > > > > shall

> > > > > > > > > > be suitable?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji,Margarita, Philippe and Manu,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Manu, please sign your name just as a matter of

> > > > coursey.

> > > > > > > Also

> > > > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > > > make an attempt on your chart and worksheet.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You also have not specified what event you want

> > list

> > > > > > members

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > at.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I found your chart intersting.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Since the event given by you were securing job

> and

> > > > > > > enginnering

> > > > > > > > > > > qualification here are my findings.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Your intellegence

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Checking position of lagna, sun and moon in

> sectors

> > > of

> > > > > > shani

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > navamsa, drekkhana and trimsamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > a) Navamsa lagna is shani sign and Sun is in

> > navamsa

> > > > > lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > b) Sun is in sign of shani in drekkhana of

> > capricorn

> > > so

> > > > > > > sector

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > > c) In trisamsa none are in sector of shani. So

> you

> > > > have

> > > > > > > total

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > 3.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So must be very intelligent with very good

> grasping

> > > > power

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > > good memory.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2) In Navamsa lagna, sun and moon are in sign

of

> > > shani

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > again showing your trend for choosing career.

> > Shani

> > > > and

> > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > show engineering.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 3) You have 1 zero given by Mars in your 4th

> > house.

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > bhoomikarak.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 4) Here is the interesting part. Lagna and 9th

> > lord

> > > > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 5:9

> > > > > > > > > yog

> > > > > > > > > > > in Rasi so you have the blessings of father and

> > > Guru.

> > > > He

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > > > you through.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 5) Venus is spoilt in your chart. Its within 1

> > > degree

> > > > of

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > sun

> > > > > > > > > > > and in nakshatra of sun. So you will see that

in

> > > most

> > > > > > > > divisional

> > > > > > > > > > > charts Venus and Sun are together.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 6) You said you secured your job on 16th Aug

> 1999.

> > > > That

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > antra of shani. Its got 12 points for 6th

house,

> > low

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > > > > house and its LoD for 11th. Shani is samdharmi

> to

> > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > > > > > I feel blessings of your father helped here.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 7) Next antra is of Mercury after that.

Mercury

> is

> > > > karak

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > job,

> > > > > > > > > > > its LoE for 11th and for 11th house it has 22

> > points

> > > as

> > > > > > > > compared

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > Shani who had 18 points so its showing an

upward

> > > > trend.

> > > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > only 10 points for 10th house so you might get

> > > > increment

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > change in authority as compared to shanis

antra.

> > > Both

> > > > > > Shani

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Merc

> > > > > > > > > > > have 10 points for 10th house. So authority

> > remains

> > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > however

> > > > > > > > > > > income has gone up. Points in 6th house are

high

> > in

> > > > both

> > > > > > > cases

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > also for 5th house points are high. So I do

not

> > see

> > > > any

> > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > > happening except income which goes up. I think

> > that

> > > is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > line

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > what you have said also.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 8) Venus is spoilt, Venus not aspected on

> > conjoining

> > > > > guru,

> > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > in karak sthan for marriage, 1 zero in SAV

given

> by

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > > house can show break of relationship,

lagna/7th,

> > > > > moon/7th,

> > > > > > > > > sun/7th

> > > > > > > > > > > and venus/7th are in 1:7, 1:7, 4:10 and 4:10.

> > > However

> > > > > 1:9

> > > > > > > > lords

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > in 5:9 so again u have blessing of Guru or

> father.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This is the reason I took your chart is to see

> the

> > > > effect

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 1st

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > 9th lords in 5:9.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji and Margarita and Philippe can you

> please

> > > > tell

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > nav pancham yog between lagna and 9th lord can

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1) nulify the zero in 4th house

> > > > > > > > > > > 2) and general blessings manefestation of this

> yog

> > > for

> > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > marriage for the native where karak is spoilt.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " Manu

> > > > > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please analysis a chart using his

birth

> > > > > > information

> > > > > > > > > below:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > > > > > > > > > Time of Birth: 16:10

> > > > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, India (28N34,

77E19).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Education Level: Electronics Engg.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Job: Software professional. Job began on 16

Aug

> > > 1999.

> > > > > No

> > > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > jobs, date of pay rise is around every april.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Unmarried.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed with the support of parents.

> > > > > > > > > > > > With God's grace, did not meet any major

> accident.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.

[Guest guest]

Dear Manu,

 

Its good to have questions and good to see that you are going deeper

into the system.

 

I suggest you do not take your own chart to learn upon. Otherwise

its human nature to inherently try to see good things and if you do

not see then you somehow try to find something that gives one hope.

Same thing goes about charts of people that are close to you.

So try to take charts of people who are not close for the purpose of

learning cause that will make you unbiased. Take a few events and

apply the principles and do them blindly and then verify the

results. Lots of charts have been worked on in the archives with

proper explanations given. You can take those charts too. That will

make u confident.

 

Also before you even go into any charts read the lessons and try to

understand them. Donna has worked very hard done a wonderful job of

organizing these lesson in a very systematic manner and Sanjay Jaggia

and Denis Labourne / Philippe Bonin have worked very hard in creating

Worksheets for the group.

 

Please feel free to post your querries and myself of other members

will try to reply. Just to save time please use Krushnas Ayanamsa so

that the antras will match and so will degree of planets.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> I think I require to understand this system properly before judging

> and making any comments. Sorry about that.

>

> Thanks a lot for describing the analysis in such detail.

>

> Hopefully I will not introduce any bugs. I will also try and

analyse

> the horoscope from educational perspective. I would request you to

> kindly check the analysis.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>