Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Hello Members, Lesson 11 about transits for analyzing daily events provides a way to know 'how the day will be'. But is there a way to determine 'how a day will be in terms of office work' and for other factors of life. Can't it happen that I had a terrific day at work but a horrible day in terms of health? How can we know such things on a day to day basis? Thanks & Regards, Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Manu, Brilliant question. I also had been thinking on this question. Krushnaji and Margarita, can you please go through this email and point out my (mis)understandings and feel free to point out anything in addition I might have missed or overlooked. I am still in the thought process so I may also need more guidance. I shall share with you what I have thought and understood thus far. It is said that when planets TRANSIT through a house with HIGH SAV it gives good results. This is one place where this is used. So take a chart and see where planets are today and then you see the natal chart and add all the points where planets are Transitting Today. When you do that what have you done ? Indirectly you have considerd so many things. SAV is the strength that each planet and lagna give to each house. Then you check where planets are Transitting today then those BENEFIC bindus (SAV) are picked up where a particular planet is transitting. So that is step 1. So when you add up SAV points (as per lesson) and you get more than 196 points (28 average bindus in a house for 7 planets 28 x 7 = 196) So if daily points are more than 197 then Generally thigns go your way so you will feel happy / elated. Now we add another layer. Say if antra of 2nd lord is running and one is getting - ASSUME 210 points then person will have more " worries " as 2nd lord's antra gives stress. So more points here might show that. Then we can add another layer. We then get into each planet and study them. Say if Shani is transitting a house with 0 points then again more points (SAV Total) for the day may show more stress. If Shani at the same time is transitting a house 12th from itself so based on the chart you can find out what house Shani is FK for and one can make finer deductions that way. If Say lagna is Scorpio and Mars at that time is Transitting 12th house (12th from lagna) and overall points for the day are say 176 then person might feel sick on that day or might have headache or some flavour for ill health. For Sco lagna, Karak for 6th (health) is lagna and Mars is Transitting a house 12th from lagna so it looses status. So in this way each planet w.r.t chart must be checked. For checking Financial Status, Transit of Guru and Shani is very very important. Shani and Guru rules 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th house in Kal purush chart. If a planet is giving good points for 11th house in Worksheet however if Guru + Shani points total is less than 8 then here antra is helping but Transits are not so if a person is doing business his payment might get stuckup or not proper flow of money etc might be faced. Sometimes you notice some persons might loose their jobs however Transit of Guru + Shani points are more than 8 then in such cases he can still get some help from somewhere wherein he might be able to fulfill his daily needs. Where help can come, you can go deeper into the system but we can leave that for now. This is one of the primary reasons when Shani transitts a house with 0 points a person faces financial problems because UNLESS Guru transitts a house where he is giving 8 points only then can total points be 8. Otherwise Transits wont help and person faces financial crunch. So many people ask, when I can repay my debt. Here good antra for income along with good Transits of Guru and Shani are important. If that happens then he gets help from all angles and can repay his / her debt. For people getting into the mood if u know what I mean, here Transit of Venus must be studied closely. If Antra is good, and daily points (SAV total is good) along with Transitting Venus through a house with more than 4 bindus might help. For seeing mood for the day, I think this question you have asked in your mail, you can check Study moon and its status. IF moon is transitting Gemini and at the same time daily points are low then you might not feel pretty good in your mind. Might feel confused or might not be able to think clearly. Once a friend of mine I had told in 3 days he might not feel well. He said that for long time he had not fallen sick or and was in perfect health. 3rd day came along and he got a severe headache and a came down with a flu. Here I had checked the status of Mars along with some other things. Sun is the spirit. Life force. You can check the status of Sun like that. In such a way you can go deeper and deeper using same principles that we have learnt in the lessons. The real power is in SAV. Just the basic on what each house points in SAV shows and how we get each bindu (favourable yog) we do that unknowingly so we cover a vast portion of Vedic Astrology including all the contras. Brilliant question. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Hello Members, > > Lesson 11 about transits for analyzing daily events provides a way to > know 'how the day will be'. But is there a way to determine 'how a > day will be in terms of office work' and for other factors of life. > > Can't it happen that I had a terrific day at work but a horrible day > in terms of health? How can we know such things on a day to day basis? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dear All, I forgot to add one more important point. To add to it all, you can also add MULTIPLICATION FACTOR (lesson 26) to get the quantum of the results. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Manu, > > Brilliant question. I also had been thinking on this question. > > Krushnaji and Margarita, can you please go through this email and > point out my (mis)understandings and feel free to point out anything > in addition I might have missed or overlooked. > > > > I am still in the thought process so I may also need more guidance. > > I shall share with you what I have thought and understood thus far. > > It is said that when planets TRANSIT through a house with HIGH SAV it > gives good results. This is one place where this is used. > > So take a chart and see where planets are today and then you see the > natal chart and add all the points where planets are Transitting > Today. > > When you do that what have you done ? > > Indirectly you have considerd so many things. SAV is the strength > that each planet and lagna give to each house. Then you check where > planets are Transitting today then those BENEFIC bindus (SAV) are > picked up where a particular planet is transitting. > > So that is step 1. > > So when you add up SAV points (as per lesson) and you get more than > 196 points (28 average bindus in a house for 7 planets 28 x 7 = 196) > So if daily points are more than 197 then Generally thigns go your > way so you will feel happy / elated. > > Now we add another layer. Say if antra of 2nd lord is running and > one is getting - ASSUME 210 points then person will have > more " worries " as 2nd lord's antra gives stress. So more points > here might show that. > > Then we can add another layer. > We then get into each planet and study them. Say if Shani is > transitting a house with 0 points then again more points (SAV Total) > for the day may show more stress. If Shani at the same time is > transitting a house 12th from itself so based on the chart you can > find out what house Shani is FK for and one can make finer deductions > that way. > > If Say lagna is Scorpio and Mars at that time is Transitting 12th > house (12th from lagna) and overall points for the day are say 176 > then person might feel sick on that day or might have headache or > some flavour for ill health. For Sco lagna, Karak for 6th (health) > is lagna and Mars is Transitting a house 12th from lagna so it looses > status. So in this way each planet w.r.t chart must be checked. > > For checking Financial Status, Transit of Guru and Shani is very very > important. Shani and Guru rules 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th house in > Kal purush chart. If a planet is giving good points for 11th house > in Worksheet however if Guru + Shani points total is less than 8 then > here antra is helping but Transits are not so if a person is doing > business his payment might get stuckup or not proper flow of money > etc might be faced. > Sometimes you notice some persons might loose their jobs however > Transit of Guru + Shani points are more than 8 then in such cases he > can still get some help from somewhere wherein he might be able to > fulfill his daily needs. Where help can come, you can go deeper into > the system but we can leave that for now. > > This is one of the primary reasons when Shani transitts a house with > 0 points a person faces financial problems because UNLESS Guru > transitts a house where he is giving 8 points only then can total > points be 8. Otherwise Transits wont help and person faces financial > crunch. > > So many people ask, when I can repay my debt. Here good antra for > income along with good Transits of Guru and Shani are important. If > that happens then he gets help from all angles and can repay his / > her debt. > > For people getting into the mood if u know what I mean, here Transit > of Venus must be studied closely. If Antra is good, and daily points > (SAV total is good) along with Transitting Venus through a house with > more than 4 bindus might help. > > For seeing mood for the day, I think this question you have asked in > your mail, you can check Study moon and its status. IF moon is > transitting Gemini and at the same time daily points are low then you > might not feel pretty good in your mind. Might feel confused or > might not be able to think clearly. > > Once a friend of mine I had told in 3 days he might not feel well. > He said that for long time he had not fallen sick or and was in > perfect health. 3rd day came along and he got a severe headache and > a came down with a flu. Here I had checked the status of Mars along > with some other things. > > Sun is the spirit. Life force. You can check the status of Sun like > that. > > In such a way you can go deeper and deeper using same principles that > we have learnt in the lessons. > > The real power is in SAV. Just the basic on what each house points > in SAV shows and how we get each bindu (favourable yog) we do that > unknowingly so we cover a vast portion of Vedic Astrology including > all the contras. > > Brilliant question. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Hello Members, > > > > Lesson 11 about transits for analyzing daily events provides a way > to > > know 'how the day will be'. But is there a way to determine 'how a > > day will be in terms of office work' and for other factors of life. > > > > Can't it happen that I had a terrific day at work but a horrible > day > > in terms of health? How can we know such things on a day to day > basis? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Hello Ash, I didn't quite understand why the lordship of 2nd would make higher points feel like having worries? The more the points, the better it should be, isn't it? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear All, > I forgot to add one more important point. > > To add to it all, you can also add MULTIPLICATION FACTOR (lesson 26) > to get the quantum of the results. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and Manu, > > > > Brilliant question. I also had been thinking on this question. > > > > Krushnaji and Margarita, can you please go through this email and > > point out my (mis)understandings and feel free to point out > anything > > in addition I might have missed or overlooked. > > > > > > > > I am still in the thought process so I may also need more guidance. > > > > I shall share with you what I have thought and understood thus far. > > > > It is said that when planets TRANSIT through a house with HIGH SAV > it > > gives good results. This is one place where this is used. > > > > So take a chart and see where planets are today and then you see > the > > natal chart and add all the points where planets are Transitting > > Today. > > > > When you do that what have you done ? > > > > Indirectly you have considerd so many things. SAV is the strength > > that each planet and lagna give to each house. Then you check > where > > planets are Transitting today then those BENEFIC bindus (SAV) are > > picked up where a particular planet is transitting. > > > > So that is step 1. > > > > So when you add up SAV points (as per lesson) and you get more than > > 196 points (28 average bindus in a house for 7 planets 28 x 7 = 196) > > So if daily points are more than 197 then Generally thigns go your > > way so you will feel happy / elated. > > > > Now we add another layer. Say if antra of 2nd lord is running and > > one is getting - ASSUME 210 points then person will have > > more " worries " as 2nd lord's antra gives stress. So more points > > here might show that. > > > > Then we can add another layer. > > We then get into each planet and study them. Say if Shani is > > transitting a house with 0 points then again more points (SAV > Total) > > for the day may show more stress. If Shani at the same time is > > transitting a house 12th from itself so based on the chart you can > > find out what house Shani is FK for and one can make finer > deductions > > that way. > > > > If Say lagna is Scorpio and Mars at that time is Transitting 12th > > house (12th from lagna) and overall points for the day are say 176 > > then person might feel sick on that day or might have headache or > > some flavour for ill health. For Sco lagna, Karak for 6th (health) > > is lagna and Mars is Transitting a house 12th from lagna so it > looses > > status. So in this way each planet w.r.t chart must be checked. > > > > For checking Financial Status, Transit of Guru and Shani is very > very > > important. Shani and Guru rules 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th house in > > Kal purush chart. If a planet is giving good points for 11th house > > in Worksheet however if Guru + Shani points total is less than 8 > then > > here antra is helping but Transits are not so if a person is doing > > business his payment might get stuckup or not proper flow of money > > etc might be faced. > > Sometimes you notice some persons might loose their jobs however > > Transit of Guru + Shani points are more than 8 then in such cases > he > > can still get some help from somewhere wherein he might be able to > > fulfill his daily needs. Where help can come, you can go deeper > into > > the system but we can leave that for now. > > > > This is one of the primary reasons when Shani transitts a house > with > > 0 points a person faces financial problems because UNLESS Guru > > transitts a house where he is giving 8 points only then can total > > points be 8. Otherwise Transits wont help and person faces > financial > > crunch. > > > > So many people ask, when I can repay my debt. Here good antra for > > income along with good Transits of Guru and Shani are important. > If > > that happens then he gets help from all angles and can repay his / > > her debt. > > > > For people getting into the mood if u know what I mean, here > Transit > > of Venus must be studied closely. If Antra is good, and daily > points > > (SAV total is good) along with Transitting Venus through a house > with > > more than 4 bindus might help. > > > > For seeing mood for the day, I think this question you have asked > in > > your mail, you can check Study moon and its status. IF moon is > > transitting Gemini and at the same time daily points are low then > you > > might not feel pretty good in your mind. Might feel confused or > > might not be able to think clearly. > > > > Once a friend of mine I had told in 3 days he might not feel well. > > He said that for long time he had not fallen sick or and was in > > perfect health. 3rd day came along and he got a severe headache > and > > a came down with a flu. Here I had checked the status of Mars > along > > with some other things. > > > > Sun is the spirit. Life force. You can check the status of Sun > like > > that. > > > > In such a way you can go deeper and deeper using same principles > that > > we have learnt in the lessons. > > > > The real power is in SAV. Just the basic on what each house points > > in SAV shows and how we get each bindu (favourable yog) we do that > > unknowingly so we cover a vast portion of Vedic Astrology including > > all the contras. > > > > Brilliant question. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Hello Members, > > > > > > Lesson 11 about transits for analyzing daily events provides a > way > > to > > > know 'how the day will be'. But is there a way to determine 'how > a > > > day will be in terms of office work' and for other factors of > life. > > > > > > Can't it happen that I had a terrific day at work but a horrible > > day > > > in terms of health? How can we know such things on a day to day > > basis? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dear Manu, More points means more power. So 2nd lord or its samdharmi their antras have touch of worry and stress so more points means more power to 2nd lord and that increases worry. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Hello Ash, > > I didn't quite understand why the lordship of 2nd would make higher > points feel like having worries? The more the points, the better it > should be, isn't it? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Oh, that is useful information Ash. I always thought that points denote beneficience rather than strength. Thank you. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu, > More points means more power. So 2nd lord or its samdharmi their > antras have touch of worry and stress so more points means more > power to 2nd lord and that increases worry. > Hope that helps, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Hello Ash, > > > > I didn't quite understand why the lordship of 2nd would make higher > > points feel like having worries? The more the points, the better it > > should be, isn't it? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Dear Ash & List Members, I guess I am still a bit confused about the difference between the probability of an event taking place and quality of the event. The lessons seem to indicate that the more the points, the better it is for quality. But at the same time they also use these same points to determine strength using aspects and all that. But, I guess for daily events, we should be more interested in the quality of the day rather than an event, right? I don't care if I got promoted or demoted at work on a day (ofcourse I care about it, but not in the current context). What I care about is whether I was satisfied with work on a particular day, or whether there were hurdles and tensions at work. Kindly clarify. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Oh, that is useful information Ash. I always thought that points > denote beneficience rather than strength. Thank you. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > More points means more power. So 2nd lord or its samdharmi their > > antras have touch of worry and stress so more points means more > > power to 2nd lord and that increases worry. > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > I didn't quite understand why the lordship of 2nd would make > higher > > > points feel like having worries? The more the points, the better > it > > > should be, isn't it? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Dear Manu, Worksheet is what you use in the end to select the right significator that can furnish the event. After you select the proper planet then you can narrow it down further using the proper 1/3rd sector and Suns transit. This all is given in lesson. But before you reach this step you have to study the chart first and judge the status of each planet. When I say status, I mean in detail on the bindus it gets, sign placment, navamsa placment, in the house of friend/enemy, its samdharmis, its div chart status, 4:10, influence of 6th lord, influence of 12th from B (house under focus), planets in 12th from own house, planet placment in a house (say if LoB is placed in 2nd house from B, so it goes to dhan sthan so status is enhanced so such way if planet goes to 10th house so in upchaya so better etc etc). Even before you reach that you also need to study the nature of the person, his intellegence, how a person will react to an event for example if a person has say more than 35 points in lagna in SAV then person might be very adament and ego centric. He might be having the attitude of " my way or the high way " attitude and might not be adjustive person. The psychology of such a person might be very different as compared to a person with say 26 bindus in lagna. Again their intellegence factors is very important. Also we need to study say other factors like blessings of a guru/father, of mother, nav pancham yogs etc to see things. With all that you get an idea of the person first. So now lets assemble these things and start with the last thing that I wrote above first. 1) So study the chart - get an idea of the person in short psychology 2) Study the status of each and every planet from all angles. 3) Study how the event will be happy / unhappy. 4) Then use worksheet to pin point the event. So say if u are studying marriage, then for example if lagna/7th lords are in 6:8, points for 5th (assume male chart) are low in WS, Venus is in krittika and its distance to sun is > 43 deg and its asp by Shani and shani asp a luminiary at the same time say if guru is in 0-3deg20 in Libra rasi and say lagna SAV is 37 and intellegence is moderate. And to add to all that say if Venus and Mars are together and its aspected by Guru. So if u see such thigns (based on the lessons) you can get inclination that this chart is not of happy marriage and if there is it might be multiple or not long lasting or only limiting to pleasures. So then if the question asked is " When will I get married ? " Here study first if marriage is possible (lesson on denial of marriage). If indications are there and MARRIAGE IS UNHAPPY then what ANTRA will you select from worksheet ? Here we go by logic that IF IT WERE AN HAPPY EVENT IT WOULD TAKE PLACE IN HIGHEST SIGNIFICATOR. UNHAPPY EVENTS HAPPEN IN LOWEST SIGNIFICATOR. So here what will you pick ? Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash & List Members, > > I guess I am still a bit confused about the difference between the > probability of an event taking place and quality of the event. The > lessons seem to indicate that the more the points, the better it is > for quality. But at the same time they also use these same points to > determine strength using aspects and all that. > > But, I guess for daily events, we should be more interested in the > quality of the day rather than an event, right? I don't care if I got > promoted or demoted at work on a day (ofcourse I care about it, but > not in the current context). What I care about is whether I was > satisfied with work on a particular day, or whether there were > hurdles and tensions at work. > > Kindly clarify. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Oh, that is useful information Ash. I always thought that points > > denote beneficience rather than strength. Thank you. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > More points means more power. So 2nd lord or its samdharmi their > > > antras have touch of worry and stress so more points means more > > > power to 2nd lord and that increases worry. > > > Hope that helps, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > I didn't quite understand why the lordship of 2nd would make > > higher > > > > points feel like having worries? The more the points, the > better > > it > > > > should be, isn't it? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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