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>You are so very right Ash! I am using 360. But I thought Vimshottari >dasha is based on Lunar calendar, hence the 360. Isn't that correct?>Anyways, I will try to use 365.2524 and see.>>Thanks a lot,>Regards,>Manu

Dear Manu, I dare to offer some explanation here regarding Vimshottari dasha. I hope it will be understandable.

 

Actually, the contraversy of 360 vs 365 days per year has come into being because in this day and age those who are studying vedic astrology are doing so without being properly educated in vedic cultural traditions. From the study of Vedas and astronomical texts we find that the Sun is the basis for measuring the time. That the year is based on the seasons which is again based on the movement of the Sun. There are several types od years in vogue in vedic culture. The only reference to a 360 day year was used strictly for sacrificial purpuses, the soma-yajnas, it was not lunar or solar year, nor was it used for civil or astrological purposes.

 

The vedic lunar calendar is actually Solar, because it is tied to the seasons which in turn are the Solar phenomena, thus the Lunar and Solar calendars measure the same lenght of time and do not diverge as a function of time as does 360 d/y in comparison with the 365 d/y.

 

Confusion arose after the British introduced the Gregorian calendar into India, then Lunar tithis became mistakenly equated with Solar days and the Lunar year of 360 tithis became confused with the solar year of 360 days. Inspite of this confusion pre-British classics in Vedic astrology such as Phala Dipika clearly state that the year of Mahadasha calculation is 365 day year. Anyway, this explanation and letter can be quite long, so I'll stop here. Good reference would be "The astrological magazine", January 1974. p.93, by H.R. Shankar, learned scholar regarding this subject matter.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

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Dear Dadhi,

 

Many thanks. It was very informative. I have updated my calculations

and I am getting very close results now.

 

Regards,

Manu

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> >You are so very right Ash! I am using 360. But I thought

Vimshottari

> >dasha is based on Lunar calendar, hence the 360. Isn't that

correct?

> >Anyways, I will try to use 365.2524 and see.

> >

> >Thanks a lot,

> >Regards,

> >Manu

>

> Dear Manu, I dare to offer some explanation here regarding

Vimshottari dasha. I hope it will be understandable.

>

> Actually, the contraversy of 360 vs 365 days per year has come into

being because in this day and age those who are studying vedic

astrology are doing so without being properly educated in vedic

cultural traditions. From the study of Vedas and astronomical texts

we find that the Sun is the basis for measuring the time. That the

year is based on the seasons which is again based on the movement of

the Sun. There are several types od years in vogue in vedic culture.

The only reference to a 360 day year was used strictly for

sacrificial purpuses, the soma-yajnas, it was not lunar or solar

year, nor was it used for civil or astrological purposes.

>

> The vedic lunar calendar is actually Solar, because it is tied to

the seasons which in turn are the Solar phenomena, thus the Lunar and

Solar calendars measure the same lenght of time and do not diverge as

a function of time as does 360 d/y in comparison with the 365 d/y.

>

> Confusion arose after the British introduced the Gregorian calendar

into India, then Lunar tithis became mistakenly equated with Solar

days and the Lunar year of 360 tithis became confused with the solar

year of 360 days. Inspite of this confusion pre-British classics in

Vedic astrology such as Phala Dipika clearly state that the year of

Mahadasha calculation is 365 day year. Anyway, this explanation and

letter can be quite long, so I'll stop here. Good reference would

be " The astrological magazine " , January 1974. p.93, by H.R. Shankar,

learned scholar regarding this subject matter.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

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Dear Dadhi,

 

The whole of your letter except the salutation and signature appears to be taken from someone elses copyrighted work, either that or it is a very remarkable coincidence. What is your explanation? The orginal can be found on the last page of this article. I read through the whole thing last week and recognized the part you copied:

 

http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/Shyama_site/what_is_jyotish/how_long_year/how_long_year_1.htm

 

or

 

http://tinyurl.com/39yg7

 

This doesn't seem correct. Is it right to make someone elses work appear to be your own original thinking? Where I come from it is called plagerism. Scholars of a subject always give their sources not steal them.

 

FM

 

PS that site has some other interesting articles as well.

 

Dadhi [denis]Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: 360 - 365

>You are so very right Ash! I am using 360. But I thought Vimshottari >dasha is based on Lunar calendar, hence the 360. Isn't that correct?>Anyways, I will try to use 365.2524 and see.>>Thanks a lot,>Regards,>Manu

Dear Manu, I dare to offer some explanation here regarding Vimshottari dasha. I hope it will be understandable.

 

Actually, the contraversy of 360 vs 365 days per year has come into being because in this day and age those who are studying vedic astrology are doing so without being properly educated in vedic cultural traditions. From the study of Vedas and astronomical texts we find that the Sun is the basis for measuring the time. That the year is based on the seasons which is again based on the movement of the Sun. There are several types od years in vogue in vedic culture. The only reference to a 360 day year was used strictly for sacrificial purpuses, the soma-yajnas, it was not lunar or solar year, nor was it used for civil or astrological purposes.

 

The vedic lunar calendar is actually Solar, because it is tied to the seasons which in turn are the Solar phenomena, thus the Lunar and Solar calendars measure the same lenght of time and do not diverge as a function of time as does 360 d/y in comparison with the 365 d/y.

 

Confusion arose after the British introduced the Gregorian calendar into India, then Lunar tithis became mistakenly equated with Solar days and the Lunar year of 360 tithis became confused with the solar year of 360 days. Inspite of this confusion pre-British classics in Vedic astrology such as Phala Dipika clearly state that the year of Mahadasha calculation is 365 day year. Anyway, this explanation and letter can be quite long, so I'll stop here. Good reference would be "The astrological magazine", January 1974. p.93, by H.R. Shankar, learned scholar regarding this subject matter.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

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Dear Fabius,

Yhis is the first message you ost on this list and it's to accuse

somebody of plagiaris.

As a moderator I wanted to point out the following

Please sent such messages as a personal mail because the topic has

nothing to do with our astrological research

Secondly, i wanted to point out that we all are plagiating because we

all use terxts and knowledge coming from sombody else.

The mail Dadhi has sent to the list on the lenght of vimshotarri dashi

can hardly be qualified as a " stealing " . So please, don't start any

argument here. We all went on well together, so don't make a mess please.

Best regards

Margarita

 

Fabius Maximus wrote:

 

>Dear Dadhi,

>

>The whole of your letter except the salutation and signature appears to be

taken

>from someone elses copyrighted work, either that or it is a very remarkable

>coincidence. What is your explanation? The orginal can be found on the last

page

>of this article. I read through the whole thing last week and recognized the

>part you copied:

>

>http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/Shyama_site/what_is_jyotish/how_long_year/how_\

l

>ong_year_1.htm

>

>or

>

>http://tinyurl.com/39yg7

>

>This doesn't seem correct. Is it right to make someone elses work appear to be

>your own original thinking? Where I come from it is called plagerism. Scholars

>of a subject always give their sources not steal them.

>

>FM

>

>PS that site has some other interesting articles as well.

>

> Dadhi [denis]

> Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:06 PM

>

> 360 - 365

>

>

> >You are so very right Ash! I am using 360. But I thought Vimshottari

> >dasha is based on Lunar calendar, hence the 360. Isn't that correct?

> >Anyways, I will try to use 365.2524 and see.

> >

> >Thanks a lot,

> >Regards,

> >Manu

>

> Dear Manu, I dare to offer some explanation here regarding Vimshottari

dasha.

>I hope it will be understandable.

>

> Actually, the contraversy of 360 vs 365 days per year has come into being

>because in this day and age those who are studying vedic astrology are doing so

>without being properly educated in vedic cultural traditions. From the study of

>Vedas and astronomical texts we find that the Sun is the basis for measuring

the

>time. That the year is based on the seasons which is again based on the

movement

>of the Sun. There are several types od years in vogue in vedic culture. The

only

>reference to a 360 day year was used strictly for sacrificial purpuses, the

>soma-yajnas, it was not lunar or solar year, nor was it used for civil or

>astrological purposes.

>

> The vedic lunar calendar is actually Solar, because it is tied to the seasons

>which in turn are the Solar phenomena, thus the Lunar and Solar calendars

>measure the same lenght of time and do not diverge as a function of time as

does

>360 d/y in comparison with the 365 d/y.

>

> Confusion arose after the British introduced the Gregorian calendar into

>India, then Lunar tithis became mistakenly equated with Solar days and the

Lunar

>year of 360 tithis became confused with the solar year of 360 days. Inspite of

>this confusion pre-British classics in Vedic astrology such as Phala Dipika

>clearly state that the year of Mahadasha calculation is 365 day year. Anyway,

>this explanation and letter can be quite long, so I'll stop here. Good

reference

>would be " The astrological magazine " , January 1974. p.93, by H.R. Shankar,

>learned scholar regarding this subject matter.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

>

>

>

>

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Dear Margarita,

 

>

> margarita lettens [dmlettens]

> Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:05 AM

>

> Re: 360 - 365

>

>

> Dear Fabius,

> Yhis is the first message you ost on this list

 

I have been lurking for some time.

 

 

> and it's to accuse

> somebody of plagiaris.

 

Sorry if bringing notice of this is a cause of offense. I was just reading

several texts by KN Rao where he especially criticized that modern

astrologers always try to take credit for themselves and seldom credit the

work of others.

 

 

> As a moderator I wanted to point out the following

> Please sent such messages as a personal mail because the topic has

> nothing to do with our astrological research

 

ok

 

> Secondly, i wanted to point out that we all are plagiating because we

> all use terxts and knowledge coming from sombody else.

 

It is only plagerizing if we fail to credit the source, which is a sign of

ingratitude. It is common practice in other disciplines to credit other's

work even when researching.

 

 

> The mail Dadhi has sent to the list on the lenght of vimshotarri dashi

> can hardly be qualified as a " stealing " .

 

That, of course, would be for the author (Shyamasundara Dasa) of the text to

decide. Perhaps you should ask him and let us know what he thinks.

 

> So please, don't start any

> argument here. We all went on well together, so don't make a mess please.

 

I can apreciate that and will follow your guideline to contact the person

directly in the future.

 

FM

 

 

 

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

> Fabius Maximus wrote:

>

> >Dear Dadhi,

> >

> >The whole of your letter except the salutation and signature

> appears to be taken

> >from someone elses copyrighted work, either that or it is a very

> remarkable

> >coincidence. What is your explanation? The orginal can be found

> on the last page

> >of this article. I read through the whole thing last week and

> recognized the

> >part you copied:

> >

> >http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/Shyama_site/what_is_jyotish/how_

> long_year/how_l

> >ong_year_1.htm

> >

> >or

> >

> >http://tinyurl.com/39yg7

> >

> >This doesn't seem correct. Is it right to make someone elses

> work appear to be

> >your own original thinking? Where I come from it is called

> plagerism. Scholars

> >of a subject always give their sources not steal them.

> >

> >FM

> >

> >PS that site has some other interesting articles as well.

> >

> > Dadhi [denis]

> > Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:06 PM

> >

> > 360 - 365

> >

> >

> > >You are so very right Ash! I am using 360. But I thought Vimshottari

> > >dasha is based on Lunar calendar, hence the 360. Isn't that correct?

> > >Anyways, I will try to use 365.2524 and see.

> > >

> > >Thanks a lot,

> > >Regards,

> > >Manu

> >

> > Dear Manu, I dare to offer some explanation here regarding

> Vimshottari dasha.

> >I hope it will be understandable.

> >

> > Actually, the contraversy of 360 vs 365 days per year has come

> into being

> >because in this day and age those who are studying vedic

> astrology are doing so

> >without being properly educated in vedic cultural traditions.

> From the study of

> >Vedas and astronomical texts we find that the Sun is the basis

> for measuring the

> >time. That the year is based on the seasons which is again based

> on the movement

> >of the Sun. There are several types od years in vogue in vedic

> culture. The only

> >reference to a 360 day year was used strictly for sacrificial

> purpuses, the

> >soma-yajnas, it was not lunar or solar year, nor was it used for civil or

> >astrological purposes.

> >

> > The vedic lunar calendar is actually Solar, because it is tied

> to the seasons

> >which in turn are the Solar phenomena, thus the Lunar and Solar calendars

> >measure the same lenght of time and do not diverge as a function

> of time as does

> >360 d/y in comparison with the 365 d/y.

> >

> > Confusion arose after the British introduced the Gregorian

> calendar into

> >India, then Lunar tithis became mistakenly equated with Solar

> days and the Lunar

> >year of 360 tithis became confused with the solar year of 360

> days. Inspite of

> >this confusion pre-British classics in Vedic astrology such as

> Phala Dipika

> >clearly state that the year of Mahadasha calculation is 365 day

> year. Anyway,

> >this explanation and letter can be quite long, so I'll stop

> here. Good reference

> >would be " The astrological magazine " , January 1974. p.93, by

> H.R. Shankar,

> >learned scholar regarding this subject matter.

> >

> > All the best,

> > Dadhi

> >

> >

> >--------------------------------

> -------------

> >

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