Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dear Ash, Prafulla and List Members, Here is my second attempt... Youngest CA in Dec 1996 (ra/ve in first 1/3 portion): Success and commerce, both, are seen from hs10. It is seen that Ve antra was in effect when Prafulla became a CA. Also the strengths worksheet for hs10 gives 25 points to sa making it the most powerful significator. However, Sa aspects hs10 (B), hs5 (A) and hs2 © and is 6th lord. Ve is a natural samdharmi to Saturn with 14 points and also samdharmi by sign. Ve is also the lord of hs3 (E). Hence, ve gave result. However, I have a doubt, ve also aspects C, hs2. How could it give the result? Well, actually the other planets have strengths below 12, so maybe Dear God did not have any other choice than to nominate ve. There is one more doubt. Sa has aspects on A, B and C. Ju has no aspect. And Prafulla told us about he becoming the youngest CA. Isn't that odd? Sa should have delayed the event! Long Journey to MiddleEast in June 1988 (ra/su in first 1/3 section): Long journey is seen from 5th. And I am surprised again! Su has no strength points (only 10) as compared to me (18) and ve(14). Me is also lord of D and Ve is Lord of E. Why did Sun's antra give the result? Very good money from 1993 to 95 (ju/sa whole antra): Ashtakavarga points of Sa for hs10, hs11 and hs12 are 4, 3, 3. They don't indicate much. Sa was transiting hs7 in this period. Its ashtakavarga for hs7 is 3. That does not help much. Sarva for hs7 is 21. Not much help again. Let us consider strengths for Hs2. The house for wealth. Me is the most powerful significator with 18. It is lord of D and placed in E. It also does not aspect A or B or C. I can't seem to explain why did Sa favour the native. Sa has aspect on B although it is lord of E. Let me not analyse any further. I don't want to feel very pessimistic. Ash, others, kindly help. Thanks & Regards, Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dear Manu, In Lesson it is given that LoD or LoE when they aspect they can still give result. Venus is LoE for 5th so it gave result of degree. There is no confusion here. AV points for Sa is 25, 9 and 11 for 10th, 11th and 12th. So more expenses. More Authority. Lesser money as compared to effort. May have to work very hard in Shani antra. Transits of GURU and SHANI helping ... Shani is SD to Venus LoE for 10th and Mercury LoD for 11th house income. But more expenses. Please add points of Guru and Shani together and they must be more than 8 for transits. I did not undestand how u were using Saturns transit alone ..... How are u checking SARVA for 7th and how are u getting long journey from 5th ? 12th is for long journey. Oct 1991 gave him journey. That is LoE for 12th !!! How did u get sun. Jupiter has 18 points for 12th. So gave travels, Marriage, Pleasures all 12th house things. Please try to read what points are telling you. This will come with more practice. Please check the selection of house properly and your antar dasha selection. Rather than getting pessimistic please spend time understand why the planet is behaving in such a manner. Also read the lessons more closely. Each and every law given has a lot of meaning. Hope that helps. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, Prafulla and List Members, > > Here is my second attempt... > > Youngest CA in Dec 1996 (ra/ve in first 1/3 portion): > > Success and commerce, both, are seen from hs10. It is seen that Ve > antra was in effect > when Prafulla became a CA. Also the strengths worksheet for hs10 > gives 25 points to sa > making it the most powerful significator. However, Sa aspects hs10 > (B), hs5 (A) and hs2 © > and is 6th lord. > Ve is a natural samdharmi to Saturn with 14 points and also samdharmi > by sign. > Ve is also the lord of hs3 (E). > Hence, ve gave result. > However, I have a doubt, ve also aspects C, hs2. How could it give > the result? Well, actually > the other planets have strengths below 12, so maybe Dear God did not > have any other choice than > to nominate ve. > There is one more doubt. Sa has aspects on A, B and C. Ju has no > aspect. And Prafulla told us > about he becoming the youngest CA. Isn't that odd? Sa should have > delayed the event! > > Long Journey to MiddleEast in June 1988 (ra/su in first 1/3 section): > > Long journey is seen from 5th. > And I am surprised again! Su has no strength points (only 10) as > compared to me (18) and ve(14). > Me is also lord of D and Ve is Lord of E. > Why did Sun's antra give the result? > Very good money from 1993 to 95 (ju/sa whole antra): > Ashtakavarga points of Sa for hs10, hs11 and hs12 are 4, 3, 3. They > don't indicate much. > Sa was transiting hs7 in this period. Its ashtakavarga for hs7 is 3. > That does not help much. > Sarva for hs7 is 21. Not much help again. > Let us consider strengths for Hs2. The house for wealth. > Me is the most powerful significator with 18. It is lord of D and > placed in E. It also does not > aspect A or B or C. I can't seem to explain why did Sa favour the > native. Sa has aspect on B although it > is lord of E. > Let me not analyse any further. I don't want to feel very > pessimistic. > > Ash, others, kindly help. > Thanks & Regards, > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dear Ash, Thanks a lot. I checked the rule that you had indicated about LoD and LoE giving results even with an aspect and I was making a mistake there. Thanks for correcting me. I used long journey for house 5 since Lesson 4 indicated that. Then I saw house 12 description too in the lesson after reading your mail. And that too indicates long journey! I guess the house 5 description should be corrected in that case. It might have been listed since 5th is 6th (B) from 12th. I checked the strength points for 12th and jupiter does have 18 points and is lord of E. That explains things a lot! Ash, I will try to explain why I used hs7 sarva points. I was analysing the effect of Saturn. Since, I selected Sa as the antra planet, I was studying the effect of transit Sa as well. I found that Sa was transitting hs7 in that period. Now, antra planet shall give good results when it transits a house with more Sarva points. Is that correct? Hence the choice. Thanks a lot for explaining so many things. Hope to do better next time. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu, > In Lesson it is given that LoD or LoE when they aspect they can still > give result. Venus is LoE for 5th so it gave result of degree. > There is no confusion here. > > AV points for Sa is 25, 9 and 11 for 10th, 11th and 12th. > > So more expenses. More Authority. Lesser money as compared to > effort. May have to work very hard in Shani antra. > Transits of GURU and SHANI helping ... > Shani is SD to Venus LoE for 10th and Mercury LoD for 11th house > income. But more expenses. > > Please add points of Guru and Shani together and they must be more > than 8 for transits. I did not undestand how u were using Saturns > transit alone ..... > > How are u checking SARVA for 7th and how are u getting long journey > from 5th ? > 12th is for long journey. > > Oct 1991 gave him journey. That is LoE for 12th !!! How did u get > sun. > > Jupiter has 18 points for 12th. So gave travels, Marriage, Pleasures > all 12th house things. Please try to read what points are telling > you. This will come with more practice. > > > Please check the selection of house properly and your antar dasha > selection. > > Rather than getting pessimistic please spend time understand why the > planet is behaving in such a manner. > > Also read the lessons more closely. Each and every law given has a > lot of meaning. > > Hope that helps. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Ash, Prafulla and List Members, > > > > Here is my second attempt... > > > > Youngest CA in Dec 1996 (ra/ve in first 1/3 portion): > > > > Success and commerce, both, are seen from hs10. It is seen that Ve > > antra was in effect > > when Prafulla became a CA. Also the strengths worksheet for hs10 > > gives 25 points to sa > > making it the most powerful significator. However, Sa aspects hs10 > > (B), hs5 (A) and hs2 © > > and is 6th lord. > > Ve is a natural samdharmi to Saturn with 14 points and also > samdharmi > > by sign. > > Ve is also the lord of hs3 (E). > > Hence, ve gave result. > > However, I have a doubt, ve also aspects C, hs2. How could it give > > the result? Well, actually > > the other planets have strengths below 12, so maybe Dear God did > not > > have any other choice than > > to nominate ve. > > There is one more doubt. Sa has aspects on A, B and C. Ju has no > > aspect. And Prafulla told us > > about he becoming the youngest CA. Isn't that odd? Sa should have > > delayed the event! > > > > Long Journey to MiddleEast in June 1988 (ra/su in first 1/3 > section): > > > > Long journey is seen from 5th. > > And I am surprised again! Su has no strength points (only 10) as > > compared to me (18) and ve(14). > > Me is also lord of D and Ve is Lord of E. > > Why did Sun's antra give the result? > > Very good money from 1993 to 95 (ju/sa whole antra): > > Ashtakavarga points of Sa for hs10, hs11 and hs12 are 4, 3, 3. They > > don't indicate much. > > Sa was transiting hs7 in this period. Its ashtakavarga for hs7 is > 3. > > That does not help much. > > Sarva for hs7 is 21. Not much help again. > > Let us consider strengths for Hs2. The house for wealth. > > Me is the most powerful significator with 18. It is lord of D and > > placed in E. It also does not > > aspect A or B or C. I can't seem to explain why did Sa favour the > > native. Sa has aspect on B although it > > is lord of E. > > Let me not analyse any further. I don't want to feel very > > pessimistic. > > > > Ash, others, kindly help. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Dear Manu, Lessons are ok. 5th house is LoE for 12th, 9th is also LoD for 12th. 12th is LoE for 7th. 12th is LoD for 3rd. 12th house is also House C (next - result, phalit sthan) for 8th house (death) [8th as B]. All these houses are indicated for travel as per Vedic Astrology and texts. Its upto us to understand what it means. There may be some very minor mistakes due to mis print but otherwise all lessons are proper. Let us focus on understanding the lessons. Its encouraging to see you are thinking on proper track. However consider Transits as per lessons for now. There is so much more to transits. So for now just follow Transit of GURU + SHANI TOGETHER and reason for that is Guru and Shani together rules last 4 houses of Kal Purush Chart. 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th. For financial matters study Chart, Antra, Samdharmis, Points and Transits all together. Also do not get dissapointed if you cannot see things easily or right away. Everything has a reason for happening. It will help you go in deeper into the system. Think other way, if in a blind analysis you and others could pin point the antras of 4 major events of a life, the other events should also fall in line. If you cannot see things clearly, think more on it. That is the fun or learning. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks a lot. I checked the rule that you had indicated about LoD and > LoE giving results even with an aspect and I was making a mistake > there. Thanks for correcting me. > > I used long journey for house 5 since Lesson 4 indicated that. Then I > saw house 12 description too in the lesson after reading your mail. > And that too indicates long journey! I guess the house 5 description > should be corrected in that case. It might have been listed since 5th > is 6th (B) from 12th. > > I checked the strength points for 12th and jupiter does have 18 > points and is lord of E. That explains things a lot! > > Ash, I will try to explain why I used hs7 sarva points. I was > analysing the effect of Saturn. Since, I selected Sa as the antra > planet, I was studying the effect of transit Sa as well. I found that > Sa was transitting hs7 in that period. Now, antra planet shall give > good results when it transits a house with more Sarva points. Is that > correct? Hence the choice. > > Thanks a lot for explaining so many things. Hope to do better next > time. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > In Lesson it is given that LoD or LoE when they aspect they can > still > > give result. Venus is LoE for 5th so it gave result of degree. > > There is no confusion here. > > > > AV points for Sa is 25, 9 and 11 for 10th, 11th and 12th. > > > > So more expenses. More Authority. Lesser money as compared to > > effort. May have to work very hard in Shani antra. > > Transits of GURU and SHANI helping ... > > Shani is SD to Venus LoE for 10th and Mercury LoD for 11th house > > income. But more expenses. > > > > Please add points of Guru and Shani together and they must be more > > than 8 for transits. I did not undestand how u were using Saturns > > transit alone ..... > > > > How are u checking SARVA for 7th and how are u getting long journey > > from 5th ? > > 12th is for long journey. > > > > Oct 1991 gave him journey. That is LoE for 12th !!! How did u get > > sun. > > > > Jupiter has 18 points for 12th. So gave travels, Marriage, > Pleasures > > all 12th house things. Please try to read what points are telling > > you. This will come with more practice. > > > > > > Please check the selection of house properly and your antar dasha > > selection. > > > > Rather than getting pessimistic please spend time understand why > the > > planet is behaving in such a manner. > > > > Also read the lessons more closely. Each and every law given has a > > lot of meaning. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Prafulla and List Members, > > > > > > Here is my second attempt... > > > > > > Youngest CA in Dec 1996 (ra/ve in first 1/3 portion): > > > > > > Success and commerce, both, are seen from hs10. It is seen that > Ve > > > antra was in effect > > > when Prafulla became a CA. Also the strengths worksheet for hs10 > > > gives 25 points to sa > > > making it the most powerful significator. However, Sa aspects > hs10 > > > (B), hs5 (A) and hs2 © > > > and is 6th lord. > > > Ve is a natural samdharmi to Saturn with 14 points and also > > samdharmi > > > by sign. > > > Ve is also the lord of hs3 (E). > > > Hence, ve gave result. > > > However, I have a doubt, ve also aspects C, hs2. How could it > give > > > the result? Well, actually > > > the other planets have strengths below 12, so maybe Dear God did > > not > > > have any other choice than > > > to nominate ve. > > > There is one more doubt. Sa has aspects on A, B and C. Ju has no > > > aspect. And Prafulla told us > > > about he becoming the youngest CA. Isn't that odd? Sa should have > > > delayed the event! > > > > > > Long Journey to MiddleEast in June 1988 (ra/su in first 1/3 > > section): > > > > > > Long journey is seen from 5th. > > > And I am surprised again! Su has no strength points (only 10) as > > > compared to me (18) and ve(14). > > > Me is also lord of D and Ve is Lord of E. > > > Why did Sun's antra give the result? > > > Very good money from 1993 to 95 (ju/sa whole antra): > > > Ashtakavarga points of Sa for hs10, hs11 and hs12 are 4, 3, 3. > They > > > don't indicate much. > > > Sa was transiting hs7 in this period. Its ashtakavarga for hs7 is > > 3. > > > That does not help much. > > > Sarva for hs7 is 21. Not much help again. > > > Let us consider strengths for Hs2. The house for wealth. > > > Me is the most powerful significator with 18. It is lord of D and > > > placed in E. It also does not > > > aspect A or B or C. I can't seem to explain why did Sa favour the > > > native. Sa has aspect on B although it > > > is lord of E. > > > Let me not analyse any further. I don't want to feel very > > > pessimistic. > > > > > > Ash, others, kindly help. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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