Blind Chart Analysis

January 30, 2004

Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for blind chart

analysis:

29-May-1966

7:28pm

78E02, 30N19

Find the following:

1. Date of marriage

2. Number of children along with dates of birth

2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

3. Current job status

Thanks

Shashank

January 30, 2004

More information on the chart:

Native lost job on 21st Nov, 2003, and has been jobless since then.

He has started this job in Dec, 2002 after another period of no job.

Ashsam and I have discussed this chart in private conversations. He

has predicted that the native will get a job in the last 1/3 sector

of Ju/Me dasha (incidentally, the last 1/3 sector started on 27th

January).

Explain the nature of job the native is likely to get along the

finances, level of authority etc.

SG

, " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269> wrote:

> Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for blind chart

> analysis:

>

> 29-May-1966

> 7:28pm

> 78E02, 30N19

>

> Find the following:

>

> 1. Date of marriage

> 2. Number of children along with dates of birth

> 2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

> 3. Current job status

>

> Thanks

> Shashank

January 30, 2004

Dear Shashank and list members,

Thanks for posting your chart. I have a feeling there may be slight

difference in time of birth. But in general ballpark.

Members had requested for more blind chart for practice. I thought

your chart would be good candidate.

So here is the chart.

Please find out

1) Marriage Date

2) Birth of Children (native has 2 children)

3) Find out difficult period - financial and overall

4) Find out when native will get his next job.

Please use Krushnas Ashtakavarga System.

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269> wrote:

> More information on the chart:

>

> Native lost job on 21st Nov, 2003, and has been jobless since then.

> He has started this job in Dec, 2002 after another period of no job.

>

> Ashsam and I have discussed this chart in private conversations.

He

> has predicted that the native will get a job in the last 1/3 sector

> of Ju/Me dasha (incidentally, the last 1/3 sector started on 27th

> January).

>

> Explain the nature of job the native is likely to get along the

> finances, level of authority etc.

>

> SG

>

> , " sgupta2269 "

> <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for blind

chart

> > analysis:

> >

> > 29-May-1966

> > 7:28pm

> > 78E02, 30N19

> >

> > Find the following:

> >

> > 1. Date of marriage

> > 2. Number of children along with dates of birth

> > 2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

> > 3. Current job status

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shashank

January 31, 2004

Dear Shashank,

Here is my attempt...

Marriage

--------

NK and FK for marriage is ve.

Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference between ve and su is 40.2.

Strength sheet for marriage is:

A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

--------------

17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in 2:12 each. Hence,

happiness

from marriage may be below average.

There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects A, B, and C.

However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay is modulated.

ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E. Hence, the marriage might

have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from 6/1991 to 6/1992

when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju aspects house A for

hs7 as well as

hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2. However, no nakshatra and

sign

combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we revert to ve and ju.

We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su transitted visakha in

libra from

11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the likely period of

marriage.

Children

--------

I don't know how to determine the number of children. However, there

seems to

be no delay in birth of children. Conception date might have fallen

in Ju antra

since it has most strength for hs5.

Occupation

----------

The native has average intelligence. And most likely he is in service

due to the

zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income seems to be average but

more than his

expenditure.

SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV for house 5 is 35.

Hence, the native

may keep changing jobs.

On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su was transiting hs2,

lib rules by ve.

I fail to understand why native lost his job. Also, I can't predict

the currect job status.

His occupation seems to be either related to lot of paper work or he

could be a software

professional or he could be related to vehicles in some way.

Financial unstability

---------------------

The period from 9/2004 to 11/2007 might not be very favourable

looking at Ju+Sa transit.

A similar effect might have been felt in 1999 & 2000 and in the

period just after marriage.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Shashank and list members,

>

> Thanks for posting your chart. I have a feeling there may be

slight

> difference in time of birth. But in general ballpark.

>

> Members had requested for more blind chart for practice. I thought

> your chart would be good candidate.

>

> So here is the chart.

>

> Please find out

> 1) Marriage Date

> 2) Birth of Children (native has 2 children)

> 3) Find out difficult period - financial and overall

> 4) Find out when native will get his next job.

>

> Please use Krushnas Ashtakavarga System.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " sgupta2269 "

> <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > More information on the chart:

> >

> > Native lost job on 21st Nov, 2003, and has been jobless since

then.

> > He has started this job in Dec, 2002 after another period of no

job.

> >

> > Ashsam and I have discussed this chart in private conversations.

> He

> > has predicted that the native will get a job in the last 1/3

sector

> > of Ju/Me dasha (incidentally, the last 1/3 sector started on 27th

> > January).

> >

> > Explain the nature of job the native is likely to get along the

> > finances, level of authority etc.

> >

> > SG

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 "

> > <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > > Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for blind

> chart

> > > analysis:

> > >

> > > 29-May-1966

> > > 7:28pm

> > > 78E02, 30N19

> > >

> > > Find the following:

> > >

> > > 1. Date of marriage

> > > 2. Number of children along with dates of birth

> > > 2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

> > > 3. Current job status

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Shashank

January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its aspecting ABC for 7th

so there is full delay and delay causing planet is Shani.

Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

So marriage can happen after Shani transits and reaches 0 degrees

pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here see were guru is

in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even if he aspects shani

cannot check delay of shani.

So this is hint. How think again.

Try again. You are on the right track.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Shashank,

>

> Here is my attempt...

>

> Marriage

> --------

> NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference between ve and su is 40.2.

> Strength sheet for marriage is:

> A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

>

> St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> --------------

> 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

>

> SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in 2:12 each. Hence,

> happiness

> from marriage may be below average.

>

> There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects A, B, and C.

> However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay is modulated.

>

> ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E. Hence, the marriage might

> have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from 6/1991 to 6/1992

> when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

>

> For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju aspects house A for

> hs7 as well as

> hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2. However, no nakshatra and

> sign

> combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we revert to ve and ju.

> We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su transitted visakha in

> libra from

> 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the likely period of

> marriage.

>

> Children

> --------

>

> I don't know how to determine the number of children. However,

there

> seems to

> be no delay in birth of children. Conception date might have fallen

> in Ju antra

> since it has most strength for hs5.

>

> Occupation

> ----------

>

> The native has average intelligence. And most likely he is in

service

> due to the

> zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income seems to be average but

> more than his

> expenditure.

>

> SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV for house 5 is 35.

> Hence, the native

> may keep changing jobs.

>

> On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su was transiting hs2,

> lib rules by ve.

>

> I fail to understand why native lost his job. Also, I can't predict

> the currect job status.

>

> His occupation seems to be either related to lot of paper work or

he

> could be a software

> professional or he could be related to vehicles in some way.

>

> Financial unstability

> ---------------------

>

> The period from 9/2004 to 11/2007 might not be very favourable

> looking at Ju+Sa transit.

> A similar effect might have been felt in 1999 & 2000 and in the

> period just after marriage.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Shashank and list members,

> >

> > Thanks for posting your chart. I have a feeling there may be

> slight

> > difference in time of birth. But in general ballpark.

> >

> > Members had requested for more blind chart for practice. I

thought

> > your chart would be good candidate.

> >

> > So here is the chart.

> >

> > Please find out

> > 1) Marriage Date

> > 2) Birth of Children (native has 2 children)

> > 3) Find out difficult period - financial and overall

> > 4) Find out when native will get his next job.

> >

> > Please use Krushnas Ashtakavarga System.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 "

> > <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > > More information on the chart:

> > >

> > > Native lost job on 21st Nov, 2003, and has been jobless since

> then.

> > > He has started this job in Dec, 2002 after another period of no

> job.

> > >

> > > Ashsam and I have discussed this chart in private

conversations.

> > He

> > > has predicted that the native will get a job in the last 1/3

> sector

> > > of Ju/Me dasha (incidentally, the last 1/3 sector started on

27th

> > > January).

> > >

> > > Explain the nature of job the native is likely to get along the

> > > finances, level of authority etc.

> > >

> > > SG

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

> > > <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > > > Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for blind

> > chart

> > > > analysis:

> > > >

> > > > 29-May-1966

> > > > 7:28pm

> > > > 78E02, 30N19

> > > >

> > > > Find the following:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Date of marriage

> > > > 2. Number of children along with dates of birth

> > > > 2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

> > > > 3. Current job status

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Shashank

January 31, 2004

Dear Ash, Shashank,

Thank you Ash..

Here is my second atempt...

Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per Ash's post).

Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence, marriage will be

after that

due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on that date. It was

ra/mo.

ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

The strength sheet for marriage is:

A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

--------------

17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is in effect

and there is no additional delay, but mo is not having maximum

strength.

So, should we postpone the prediction further to an antra of a planet

with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is LoD but without

strength?

If we do postpone the date further,

we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However, ju aspects A. Then

we have

ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD. The period of

ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first sector of antra since

Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the following narrowed

period of marriage:

11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date of marriage.

However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence, the native may be

unhappy in his marriage.

I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its aspecting ABC for 7th

> so there is full delay and delay causing planet is Shani.

> Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> So marriage can happen after Shani transits and reaches 0 degrees

> pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

>

> Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here see were guru is

> in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even if he aspects

shani

> cannot check delay of shani.

>

> So this is hint. How think again.

>

> Try again. You are on the right track.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Shashank,

> >

> > Here is my attempt...

> >

> > Marriage

> > --------

> > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference between ve and su is

40.2.

> > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> >

> > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > --------------

> > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> >

> > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in 2:12 each.

Hence,

> > happiness

> > from marriage may be below average.

> >

> > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects A, B, and C.

> > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay is modulated.

> >

> > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E. Hence, the marriage

might

> > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> >

> > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju aspects house A

for

> > hs7 as well as

> > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2. However, no nakshatra

and

> > sign

> > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we revert to ve and ju.

> > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su transitted visakha

in

> > libra from

> > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the likely period of

> > marriage.

> >

> > Children

> > --------

> >

> > I don't know how to determine the number of children. However,

> there

> > seems to

> > be no delay in birth of children. Conception date might have

fallen

> > in Ju antra

> > since it has most strength for hs5.

> >

> > Occupation

> > ----------

> >

> > The native has average intelligence. And most likely he is in

> service

> > due to the

> > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income seems to be average

but

> > more than his

> > expenditure.

> >

> > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV for house 5 is 35.

> > Hence, the native

> > may keep changing jobs.

> >

> > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su was transiting

hs2,

> > lib rules by ve.

> >

> > I fail to understand why native lost his job. Also, I can't

predict

> > the currect job status.

> >

> > His occupation seems to be either related to lot of paper work or

> he

> > could be a software

> > professional or he could be related to vehicles in some way.

> >

> > Financial unstability

> > ---------------------

> >

> > The period from 9/2004 to 11/2007 might not be very favourable

> > looking at Ju+Sa transit.

> > A similar effect might have been felt in 1999 & 2000 and in the

> > period just after marriage.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Shashank and list members,

> > >

> > > Thanks for posting your chart. I have a feeling there may be

> > slight

> > > difference in time of birth. But in general ballpark.

> > >

> > > Members had requested for more blind chart for practice. I

> thought

> > > your chart would be good candidate.

> > >

> > > So here is the chart.

> > >

> > > Please find out

> > > 1) Marriage Date

> > > 2) Birth of Children (native has 2 children)

> > > 3) Find out difficult period - financial and overall

> > > 4) Find out when native will get his next job.

> > >

> > > Please use Krushnas Ashtakavarga System.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

> > > <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > > > More information on the chart:

> > > >

> > > > Native lost job on 21st Nov, 2003, and has been jobless since

> > then.

> > > > He has started this job in Dec, 2002 after another period of

no

> > job.

> > > >

> > > > Ashsam and I have discussed this chart in private

> conversations.

> > > He

> > > > has predicted that the native will get a job in the last 1/3

> > sector

> > > > of Ju/Me dasha (incidentally, the last 1/3 sector started on

> 27th

> > > > January).

> > > >

> > > > Explain the nature of job the native is likely to get along

the

> > > > finances, level of authority etc.

> > > >

> > > > SG

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

> > > > <sgupta2269> wrote:

> > > > > Per Ashsam, I am giving the following birth details for

blind

> > > chart

> > > > > analysis:

> > > > >

> > > > > 29-May-1966

> > > > > 7:28pm

> > > > > 78E02, 30N19

> > > > >

> > > > > Find the following:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Date of marriage

> > > > > 2. Number of children along with dates of birth

> > > > > 2. Difficult period(s) - for jobs, income, relationship

> > > > > 3. Current job status

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Shashank

January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

that time was Ra/Moon.

Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

some change in birth time. Marriage should have

occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

from by a glance.

Cheers !!!

Ash

--- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> Dear Ash, Shashank,

>

> Thank you Ash..

> Here is my second atempt...

>

> Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> Ash's post).

>

> Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> marriage will be

> after that

> due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> that date. It was

> ra/mo.

> ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

>

> The strength sheet for marriage is:

>

> A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

>

> St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> --------------

> 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

>

> Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> in effect

> and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> having maximum

> strength.

> So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> antra of a planet

> with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> LoD but without

> strength?

>

> If we do postpone the date further,

> we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> ju aspects A. Then

> we have

> ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> The period of

> ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> sector of antra since

> Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

>

> As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> following narrowed

> period of marriage:

> 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> of marriage.

>

> However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> the native may be

> unhappy in his marriage.

>

> I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> aspecting ABC for 7th

> > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> Shani.

> > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> reaches 0 degrees

> > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> >

> > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> see were guru is

> > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> if he aspects

> shani

> > cannot check delay of shani.

> >

> > So this is hint. How think again.

> >

> > Try again. You are on the right track.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ,

> " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Shashank,

> > >

> > > Here is my attempt...

> > >

> > > Marriage

> > > --------

> > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> between ve and su is

> 40.2.

> > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > >

> > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > --------------

> > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > >

> > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> 2:12 each.

> Hence,

> > > happiness

> > > from marriage may be below average.

> > >

> > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> A, B, and C.

> > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> is modulated.

> > >

> > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> Hence, the marriage

> might

> > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > >

> > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> aspects house A

> for

> > > hs7 as well as

> > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> However, no nakshatra

> and

> > > sign

> > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> revert to ve and ju.

> > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> transitted visakha

> in

> > > libra from

> > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> likely period of

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > Children

> > > --------

> > >

> > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> children. However,

> > there

> > > seems to

> > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> date might have

> fallen

> > > in Ju antra

> > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > >

> > > Occupation

> > > ----------

> > >

> > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> likely he is in

> > service

> > > due to the

> > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> seems to be average

> but

> > > more than his

> > > expenditure.

> > >

> > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> for house 5 is 35.

> > > Hence, the native

> > > may keep changing jobs.

> > >

> > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> was transiting

> hs2,

> > > lib rules by ve.

> > >

> > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> Also, I can't

> predict

>

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January 31, 2004

Dear Ash,

Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo antra?

Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So, shouldn't

it be first sector of mo antra?

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Ash Sam

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

>

> Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> that time was Ra/Moon.

> Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

>

> As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

>

> Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> from by a glance.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> >

> > Thank you Ash..

> > Here is my second atempt...

> >

> > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > Ash's post).

> >

> > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > marriage will be

> > after that

> > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > that date. It was

> > ra/mo.

> > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> >

> > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> >

> > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> >

> > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > --------------

> > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> >

> > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > in effect

> > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > having maximum

> > strength.

> > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > antra of a planet

> > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > LoD but without

> > strength?

> >

> > If we do postpone the date further,

> > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > ju aspects A. Then

> > we have

> > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > The period of

> > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > sector of antra since

> > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> >

> > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > following narrowed

> > period of marriage:

> > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > of marriage.

> >

> > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > the native may be

> > unhappy in his marriage.

> >

> > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > Shani.

> > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > reaches 0 degrees

> > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > >

> > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > see were guru is

> > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > if he aspects

> > shani

> > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > >

> > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > >

> > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > ,

> > " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > >

> > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > >

> > > > Marriage

> > > > --------

> > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > between ve and su is

> > 40.2.

> > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > >

> > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > --------------

> > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > >

> > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > 2:12 each.

> > Hence,

> > > > happiness

> > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > >

> > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > A, B, and C.

> > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > is modulated.

> > > >

> > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > Hence, the marriage

> > might

> > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > >

> > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > aspects house A

> > for

> > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > However, no nakshatra

> > and

> > > > sign

> > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > transitted visakha

> > in

> > > > libra from

> > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > likely period of

> > > > marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Children

> > > > --------

> > > >

> > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > children. However,

> > > there

> > > > seems to

> > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > date might have

> > fallen

> > > > in Ju antra

> > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > >

> > > > Occupation

> > > > ----------

> > > >

> > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > likely he is in

> > > service

> > > > due to the

> > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > seems to be average

> > but

> > > > more than his

> > > > expenditure.

> > > >

> > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > Hence, the native

> > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > >

> > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > was transiting

> > hs2,

> > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > >

> > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > Also, I can't

> > predict

> >

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Already got my answer Ash. Thanks a lot.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

>

> Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo antra?

> Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So,

shouldn't

> it be first sector of mo antra?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash Sam

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> >

> > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> >

> > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > from by a glance.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > >

> > > Thank you Ash..

> > > Here is my second atempt...

> > >

> > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > Ash's post).

> > >

> > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > marriage will be

> > > after that

> > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > that date. It was

> > > ra/mo.

> > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > >

> > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > >

> > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > >

> > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > --------------

> > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > >

> > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > in effect

> > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > having maximum

> > > strength.

> > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > antra of a planet

> > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > LoD but without

> > > strength?

> > >

> > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > we have

> > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > The period of

> > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > sector of antra since

> > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > >

> > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > following narrowed

> > > period of marriage:

> > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > of marriage.

> > >

> > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > the native may be

> > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > >

> > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > Shani.

> > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > >

> > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > see were guru is

> > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > if he aspects

> > > shani

> > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > >

> > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > >

> > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > >

> > > > > Marriage

> > > > > --------

> > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > between ve and su is

> > > 40.2.

> > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > >

> > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > --------------

> > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > 2:12 each.

> > > Hence,

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > is modulated.

> > > > >

> > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > Hence, the marriage

> > > might

> > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > >

> > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > aspects house A

> > > for

> > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > However, no nakshatra

> > > and

> > > > > sign

> > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > transitted visakha

> > > in

> > > > > libra from

> > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > likely period of

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Children

> > > > > --------

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > children. However,

> > > > there

> > > > > seems to

> > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > date might have

> > > fallen

> > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > >

> > > > > Occupation

> > > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > likely he is in

> > > > service

> > > > > due to the

> > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > seems to be average

> > > but

> > > > > more than his

> > > > > expenditure.

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > was transiting

> > > hs2,

> > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > Also, I can't

> > > predict

> > >

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January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay. So marriage after 27.5

years (approx), you have found the proper delay period by finding

when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays marraige. He will also

delay the event in the sector. Hence last 1/3rd sector the event

will take place. This part will come with more practice.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

>

> Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo antra?

> Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So,

shouldn't

> it be first sector of mo antra?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash Sam

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> >

> > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> >

> > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > from by a glance.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > >

> > > Thank you Ash..

> > > Here is my second atempt...

> > >

> > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > Ash's post).

> > >

> > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > marriage will be

> > > after that

> > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > that date. It was

> > > ra/mo.

> > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > >

> > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > >

> > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > >

> > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > --------------

> > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > >

> > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > in effect

> > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > having maximum

> > > strength.

> > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > antra of a planet

> > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > LoD but without

> > > strength?

> > >

> > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > we have

> > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > The period of

> > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > sector of antra since

> > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > >

> > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > following narrowed

> > > period of marriage:

> > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > of marriage.

> > >

> > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > the native may be

> > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > >

> > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > Shani.

> > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > >

> > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > see were guru is

> > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > if he aspects

> > > shani

> > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > >

> > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > >

> > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > >

> > > > > Marriage

> > > > > --------

> > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > between ve and su is

> > > 40.2.

> > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > >

> > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > --------------

> > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > 2:12 each.

> > > Hence,

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > is modulated.

> > > > >

> > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > Hence, the marriage

> > > might

> > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > >

> > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > aspects house A

> > > for

> > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > However, no nakshatra

> > > and

> > > > > sign

> > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > transitted visakha

> > > in

> > > > > libra from

> > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > likely period of

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Children

> > > > > --------

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > children. However,

> > > > there

> > > > > seems to

> > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > date might have

> > > fallen

> > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > >

> > > > > Occupation

> > > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > likely he is in

> > > > service

> > > > > due to the

> > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > seems to be average

> > > but

> > > > > more than his

> > > > > expenditure.

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > was transiting

> > > hs2,

> > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > Also, I can't

> > > predict

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

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January 31, 2004

Dear Ash,

In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

Are the following correct?

1. When Ju aspects Sa.

2. When Ju aspects B.

And the following would not allow Ju to check Sa's delay:

1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

Are the above correct. Are there any other possibilities?

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay. So marriage after

27.5

> years (approx), you have found the proper delay period by finding

> when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays marraige. He will

also

> delay the event in the sector. Hence last 1/3rd sector the event

> will take place. This part will come with more practice.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> >

> > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo antra?

> > Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So,

> shouldn't

> > it be first sector of mo antra?

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , Ash Sam

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > >

> > > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > >

> > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> > >

> > > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > > from by a glance.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > >

> > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > > Ash's post).

> > > >

> > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > marriage will be

> > > > after that

> > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > > that date. It was

> > > > ra/mo.

> > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > >

> > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > >

> > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > >

> > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > --------------

> > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > >

> > > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > > in effect

> > > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > > having maximum

> > > > strength.

> > > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > > antra of a planet

> > > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > > LoD but without

> > > > strength?

> > > >

> > > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > > we have

> > > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > > The period of

> > > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > > sector of antra since

> > > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > > >

> > > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > > following narrowed

> > > > period of marriage:

> > > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > > of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > > the native may be

> > > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > > >

> > > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > > Shani.

> > > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > > see were guru is

> > > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > > if he aspects

> > > > shani

> > > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marriage

> > > > > > --------

> > > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > > between ve and su is

> > > > 40.2.

> > > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > > --------------

> > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > > 2:12 each.

> > > > Hence,

> > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > > is modulated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > > Hence, the marriage

> > > > might

> > > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > > aspects house A

> > > > for

> > > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > > However, no nakshatra

> > > > and

> > > > > > sign

> > > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > > transitted visakha

> > > > in

> > > > > > libra from

> > > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > > likely period of

> > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Children

> > > > > > --------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > > children. However,

> > > > > there

> > > > > > seems to

> > > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > > date might have

> > > > fallen

> > > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Occupation

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > > likely he is in

> > > > > service

> > > > > > due to the

> > > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > > seems to be average

> > > > but

> > > > > > more than his

> > > > > > expenditure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > > was transiting

> > > > hs2,

> > > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > > Also, I can't

> > > > predict

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

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January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant check delay of

Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra it cant check delay

of Shani.

Now please apply yourself and tell me under what circumstances does

Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius and is between 20

degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

>

> Are the following correct?

>

> 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> 2. When Ju aspects B.

>

> And the following would not allow Ju to check Sa's delay:

>

> 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

>

> Are the above correct. Are there any other possibilities?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay. So marriage after

> 27.5

> > years (approx), you have found the proper delay period by finding

> > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays marraige. He will

> also

> > delay the event in the sector. Hence last 1/3rd sector the event

> > will take place. This part will come with more practice.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo

antra?

> > > Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So,

> > shouldn't

> > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > , Ash Sam

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > >

> > > > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > > > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > > > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > > > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > > > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > >

> > > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > > > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > > > from by a glance.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > >

> > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > >

> > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > after that

> > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > >

> > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > >

> > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > >

> > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > --------------

> > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > > > in effect

> > > > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > > > having maximum

> > > > > strength.

> > > > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > > > antra of a planet

> > > > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > > > LoD but without

> > > > > strength?

> > > > >

> > > > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > > > we have

> > > > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > > > The period of

> > > > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > > > sector of antra since

> > > > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > > > following narrowed

> > > > > period of marriage:

> > > > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > > > of marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > > > the native may be

> > > > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > > > Shani.

> > > > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > > > see were guru is

> > > > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > > > if he aspects

> > > > > shani

> > > > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Marriage

> > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > > > between ve and su is

> > > > > 40.2.

> > > > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > > > --------------

> > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > > > 2:12 each.

> > > > > Hence,

> > > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > > > is modulated.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > > > Hence, the marriage

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > > > aspects house A

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > > > However, no nakshatra

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > > > transitted visakha

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > libra from

> > > > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > > > likely period of

> > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Children

> > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > > > children. However,

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > seems to

> > > > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > > > date might have

> > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Occupation

> > > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > > > likely he is in

> > > > > > service

> > > > > > > due to the

> > > > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > > > seems to be average

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > more than his

> > > > > > > expenditure.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > > > was transiting

> > > > > hs2,

> > > > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > > > Also, I can't

> > > > > predict

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January 31, 2004

Dear Ash,

Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10 theory.

4. Sa aspects Ju.

Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but not in Navamsa

of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check Sa's delay.

Am I correct?

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

>

> If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant check delay of

> Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra it cant check

delay

> of Shani.

>

> Now please apply yourself and tell me under what circumstances does

> Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

>

> Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius and is between 20

> degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> >

> > Are the following correct?

> >

> > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> >

> > And the following would not allow Ju to check Sa's delay:

> >

> > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> >

> > Are the above correct. Are there any other possibilities?

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay. So marriage

after

> > 27.5

> > > years (approx), you have found the proper delay period by

finding

> > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays marraige. He

will

> > also

> > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last 1/3rd sector the

event

> > > will take place. This part will come with more practice.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the last sector of mo

> antra?

> > > > Here we have full delay but there are no zeros in SAV. So,

> > > shouldn't

> > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > , Ash Sam

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > > > > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > > > > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > > > > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > after that

> > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > > --------------

> > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > > > > in effect

> > > > > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > > > > having maximum

> > > > > > strength.

> > > > > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > > > > antra of a planet

> > > > > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > > > > LoD but without

> > > > > > strength?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > > > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > > > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > > > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > > > > we have

> > > > > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > > > > The period of

> > > > > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > > > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > > > > sector of antra since

> > > > > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > > > > following narrowed

> > > > > > period of marriage:

> > > > > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > > > > of marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > > > > the native may be

> > > > > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > > > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > > > > Shani.

> > > > > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > > > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > > > > see were guru is

> > > > > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > > > > if he aspects

> > > > > > shani

> > > > > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Marriage

> > > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > > > > between ve and su is

> > > > > > 40.2.

> > > > > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > > > > --------------

> > > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > > > > 2:12 each.

> > > > > > Hence,

> > > > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > > > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > > > > is modulated.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > > > > Hence, the marriage

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > > > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > > > > aspects house A

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > > > > However, no nakshatra

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > > > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > > > > transitted visakha

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > libra from

> > > > > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > > > > likely period of

> > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Children

> > > > > > > > --------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > > > > children. However,

> > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > seems to

> > > > > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > > > > date might have

> > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Occupation

> > > > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > > > > likely he is in

> > > > > > > service

> > > > > > > > due to the

> > > > > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > > > > seems to be average

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > more than his

> > > > > > > > expenditure.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > > > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > > > > was transiting

> > > > > > hs2,

> > > > > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > > > > Also, I can't

> > > > > > predict

> > > > > >

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January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

If Guru is in 20 - 30 deg of Aquarius check what

nakshatra is it falling under and who is the lord ?

In that case what is your opinion ?

Can Guru in Aqu in 20-30 deg check delay of Shani ?

Cheers !!!

Ash

--- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

>

> 1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

> 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> 3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10

> theory.

> 4. Sa aspects Ju.

>

> Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but

> not in Navamsa

> of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check

> Sa's delay.

>

> Am I correct?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant

> check delay of

> > Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra

> it cant check

> delay

> > of Shani.

> >

> > Now please apply yourself and tell me under what

> circumstances does

> > Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

> >

> > Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius

> and is between 20

> > degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ,

> " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> > >

> > > Are the following correct?

> > >

> > > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> > >

> > > And the following would not allow Ju to check

> Sa's delay:

> > >

> > > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > >

> > > Are the above correct. Are there any other

> possibilities?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay.

> So marriage

> after

> > > 27.5

> > > > years (approx), you have found the proper

> delay period by

> finding

> > > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays

> marraige. He

> will

> > > also

> > > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last

> 1/3rd sector the

> event

> > > > will take place. This part will come with more

> practice.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , " Manu

> Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the

> last sector of mo

> > antra?

> > > > > Here we have full delay but there are no

> zeros in SAV. So,

> > > > shouldn't

> > > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , Ash Sam

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status

> of moon.

> > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the

> exact time of

> > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> running at

> > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE.

> Here Moon is

> > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in

> last 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married

> on 28th

> > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in

> the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that

> there may be

> > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage

> should have

> > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon

> antra. Sometimes

> > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> availibilty of

> > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do

> not know what

> > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the

> strongest

> > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> being in

> > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> overall for

> > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You

> can tell that

> > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked

> by ju (as per

> > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on

> 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see

> the dasha on

> > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU

> L12B L6

> > > > > > >

> --------------

> > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. -

> .... - ..

> > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> .... - ..

> > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> .... - ..

>

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January 31, 2004

Dear Manu,

Not when Sa aspects Guru.

Cheers !!!

Ash

--- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

>

> 1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

> 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> 3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10

> theory.

> 4. Sa aspects Ju.

>

> Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but

> not in Navamsa

> of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check

> Sa's delay.

>

> Am I correct?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant

> check delay of

> > Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra

> it cant check

> delay

> > of Shani.

> >

> > Now please apply yourself and tell me under what

> circumstances does

> > Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

> >

> > Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius

> and is between 20

> > degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ,

> " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> > >

> > > Are the following correct?

> > >

> > > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> > >

> > > And the following would not allow Ju to check

> Sa's delay:

> > >

> > > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > >

> > > Are the above correct. Are there any other

> possibilities?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay.

> So marriage

> after

> > > 27.5

> > > > years (approx), you have found the proper

> delay period by

> finding

> > > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays

> marraige. He

> will

> > > also

> > > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last

> 1/3rd sector the

> event

> > > > will take place. This part will come with more

> practice.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> , " Manu

> Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the

> last sector of mo

> > antra?

> > > > > Here we have full delay but there are no

> zeros in SAV. So,

> > > > shouldn't

> > > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , Ash Sam

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status

> of moon.

> > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the

> exact time of

> > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> running at

> > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE.

> Here Moon is

> > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in

> last 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married

> on 28th

> > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in

> the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that

> there may be

> > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage

> should have

> > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon

> antra. Sometimes

> > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> availibilty of

> > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do

> not know what

> > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the

> strongest

> > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> being in

> > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> overall for

> > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You

> can tell that

> > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked

> by ju (as per

> > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on

> 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see

> the dasha on

> > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU

> L12B L6

> > > > > > >

> --------------

> > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. -

> .... - ..

> > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> .... - ..

> > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> .... - ..

>

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January 31, 2004

Dear Ash,

So, in short we can also say that when Ju is SD to Sa, it cannot

check the delay caused by Sa. Great!

Now Ash, in what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

Are the following correct?

1. When Ju aspects Sa and is not SD to Sa.

2. When Ju aspects B and is not SD to Sa.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Ash Sam

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> Not when Sa aspects Guru.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

> >

> > 1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

> > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > 3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10

> > theory.

> > 4. Sa aspects Ju.

> >

> > Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but

> > not in Navamsa

> > of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check

> > Sa's delay.

> >

> > Am I correct?

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > >

> > > If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant

> > check delay of

> > > Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra

> > it cant check

> > delay

> > > of Shani.

> > >

> > > Now please apply yourself and tell me under what

> > circumstances does

> > > Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

> > >

> > > Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius

> > and is between 20

> > > degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > ,

> > " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> > > >

> > > > Are the following correct?

> > > >

> > > > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > > > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> > > >

> > > > And the following would not allow Ju to check

> > Sa's delay:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > > >

> > > > Are the above correct. Are there any other

> > possibilities?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay.

> > So marriage

> > after

> > > > 27.5

> > > > > years (approx), you have found the proper

> > delay period by

> > finding

> > > > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays

> > marraige. He

> > will

> > > > also

> > > > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last

> > 1/3rd sector the

> > event

> > > > > will take place. This part will come with more

> > practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > , " Manu

> > Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the

> > last sector of mo

> > > antra?

> > > > > > Here we have full delay but there are no

> > zeros in SAV. So,

> > > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , Ash Sam

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status

> > of moon.

> > > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the

> > exact time of

> > > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> > running at

> > > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE.

> > Here Moon is

> > > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in

> > last 1/3rd

> > > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married

> > on 28th

> > > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in

> > the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that

> > there may be

> > > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage

> > should have

> > > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon

> > antra. Sometimes

> > > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> > availibilty of

> > > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do

> > not know what

> > > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the

> > strongest

> > > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> > being in

> > > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> > overall for

> > > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You

> > can tell that

> > > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked

> > by ju (as per

> > > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on

> > 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see

> > the dasha on

> > > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU

> > L12B L6

> > > > > > > >

> > --------------

> > > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. -

> > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > .... - ..

> >

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Dear Manu,

Not SD. Guru does not become SD to the nakshtra lord or the sign

lord. If Guru is conjoining Shani in say navamsa of Pisces then Guru

can still check delay of Shani provided other factors are met.

So on the surface it may seem like SD but there are other factors

like nakshatra to consider.

If Guru is not influenced by Shani AND if Guru is conjoining of

Aspecting Shani or if Guru is with < 4 bindus and Shani is in 4th

place from such a guru with more points then Guru will influence

shani and check his delay.

When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in nakhsatra

ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and is is in

own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in pro and 1

in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani.

I had encountered one such chart and Krushnaji had pointed that out

to me. So we need to study status of Guru and Shani from all angles.

I hope its clear now.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> So, in short we can also say that when Ju is SD to Sa, it cannot

> check the delay caused by Sa. Great!

>

> Now Ash, in what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

>

> Are the following correct?

> 1. When Ju aspects Sa and is not SD to Sa.

> 2. When Ju aspects B and is not SD to Sa.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash Sam

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > Not when Sa aspects Guru.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

> > >

> > > 1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

> > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > > 3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10

> > > theory.

> > > 4. Sa aspects Ju.

> > >

> > > Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but

> > > not in Navamsa

> > > of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check

> > > Sa's delay.

> > >

> > > Am I correct?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > >

> > > > If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant

> > > check delay of

> > > > Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra

> > > it cant check

> > > delay

> > > > of Shani.

> > > >

> > > > Now please apply yourself and tell me under what

> > > circumstances does

> > > > Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

> > > >

> > > > Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius

> > > and is between 20

> > > > degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> > > > >

> > > > > Are the following correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > > > > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> > > > >

> > > > > And the following would not allow Ju to check

> > > Sa's delay:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > > > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Are the above correct. Are there any other

> > > possibilities?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay.

> > > So marriage

> > > after

> > > > > 27.5

> > > > > > years (approx), you have found the proper

> > > delay period by

> > > finding

> > > > > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays

> > > marraige. He

> > > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last

> > > 1/3rd sector the

> > > event

> > > > > > will take place. This part will come with more

> > > practice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > , " Manu

> > > Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the

> > > last sector of mo

> > > > antra?

> > > > > > > Here we have full delay but there are no

> > > zeros in SAV. So,

> > > > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , Ash Sam

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status

> > > of moon.

> > > > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the

> > > exact time of

> > > > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> > > running at

> > > > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE.

> > > Here Moon is

> > > > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in

> > > last 1/3rd

> > > > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married

> > > on 28th

> > > > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in

> > > the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that

> > > there may be

> > > > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage

> > > should have

> > > > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon

> > > antra. Sometimes

> > > > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> > > availibilty of

> > > > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do

> > > not know what

> > > > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the

> > > strongest

> > > > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> > > being in

> > > > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> > > overall for

> > > > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You

> > > can tell that

> > > > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked

> > > by ju (as per

> > > > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on

> > > 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see

> > > the dasha on

> > > > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU

> > > L12B L6

> > > > > > > > >

> > > --------------

> > > > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. -

> > > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > > .... - ..

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Dear Ash,

Can I try to summarise again:

Saturn influences Ju in the following cases:

1. Ju is in sign ruled by sa.

2. Ju is in nakshatra ruled by sa.

3. Ju is in navamsa ruled by sa.

4. by 4:10 theory

Jupiter checks delay if it is not under influence of Sa and if one of

the following is true:

1. Ju conjoins sa in rasi chart.

2. Ju aspects sa in rasi chart.

3. by 4:10 theory.

However, sometimes when some factors are pro and some con, we have to

balance them and find the result as you mentioned.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> Not SD. Guru does not become SD to the nakshtra lord or the sign

> lord. If Guru is conjoining Shani in say navamsa of Pisces then

Guru

> can still check delay of Shani provided other factors are met.

> So on the surface it may seem like SD but there are other factors

> like nakshatra to consider.

>

> If Guru is not influenced by Shani AND if Guru is conjoining of

> Aspecting Shani or if Guru is with < 4 bindus and Shani is in 4th

> place from such a guru with more points then Guru will influence

> shani and check his delay.

>

> When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in nakhsatra

> ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and is is in

> own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in pro and

1

> in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani.

> I had encountered one such chart and Krushnaji had pointed that out

> to me. So we need to study status of Guru and Shani from all

angles.

>

> I hope its clear now.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > So, in short we can also say that when Ju is SD to Sa, it cannot

> > check the delay caused by Sa. Great!

> >

> > Now Ash, in what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> >

> > Are the following correct?

> > 1. When Ju aspects Sa and is not SD to Sa.

> > 2. When Ju aspects B and is not SD to Sa.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , Ash Sam

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > Not when Sa aspects Guru.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > Sa can influence Guru in the following cases:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Ju is in sign or constellation of Sa.

> > > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > > > 3. Sa's AV<4 and Ju is in 4th from Sa as per 4:10

> > > > theory.

> > > > 4. Sa aspects Ju.

> > > >

> > > > Ju in Aqu from 20 to 30 degrees is in sign of Sa but

> > > > not in Navamsa

> > > > of Sa. Still due to former case, it cannot check

> > > > Sa's delay.

> > > >

> > > > Am I correct?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > >

> > > > > If Shani influences Guru in any way then Guru cant

> > > > check delay of

> > > > > Shani. If Jupiter is spoilt like if its in Libra

> > > > it cant check

> > > > delay

> > > > > of Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now please apply yourself and tell me under what

> > > > circumstances does

> > > > > Shani INFLUENCE Guru ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also tell me how will Guru if it is in Aquarius

> > > > and is between 20

> > > > > degrees to 30 degrees in Aquarius ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In what cases can Ju check Sa's delay:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are the following correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. When Ju aspects Sa.

> > > > > > 2. When Ju aspects B.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And the following would not allow Ju to check

> > > > Sa's delay:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Ju is aspected by Sa.

> > > > > > 2. Ju is in Navamsa of Sa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are the above correct. Are there any other

> > > > possibilities?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > Shani is aspecting ABC house. So full delay.

> > > > So marriage

> > > > after

> > > > > > 27.5

> > > > > > > years (approx), you have found the proper

> > > > delay period by

> > > > finding

> > > > > > > when shani hit 0 deg pisces. So Shani delays

> > > > marraige. He

> > > > will

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > delay the event in the sector. Hence last

> > > > 1/3rd sector the

> > > > event

> > > > > > > will take place. This part will come with more

> > > > practice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " Manu

> > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Oops! I missed the Samdharmi part.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your post Ash. But why the

> > > > last sector of mo

> > > > > antra?

> > > > > > > > Here we have full delay but there are no

> > > > zeros in SAV. So,

> > > > > > > shouldn't

> > > > > > > > it be first sector of mo antra?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , Ash Sam

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status

> > > > of moon.

> > > > > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the

> > > > exact time of

> > > > > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> > > > running at

> > > > > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE.

> > > > Here Moon is

> > > > > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in

> > > > last 1/3rd

> > > > > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married

> > > > on 28th

> > > > > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in

> > > > the 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that

> > > > there may be

> > > > > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage

> > > > should have

> > > > > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon

> > > > antra. Sometimes

> > > > > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> > > > availibilty of

> > > > > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do

> > > > not know what

> > > > > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the

> > > > strongest

> > > > > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> > > > overall for

> > > > > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You

> > > > can tell that

> > > > > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked

> > > > by ju (as per

> > > > > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on

> > > > 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see

> > > > the dasha on

> > > > > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU

> > > > L12B L6

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > --------------

> > > > > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. -

> > > > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > > > .... - ..

> > > > > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. -

> > > > .... - ..

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Dear Ash,

The following is the strength summary sheet.

Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

2 5 2 4 4 5 4

hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 - L6A

hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 - L6A

hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 - ...

hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 - ...

hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 - ...

hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 - ...

hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 - ...

hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 - ...

hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 - ...

hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 - L6A

hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 - ...

hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 - ...

It seems that Sa antra might not be very favourable since it has low

points in 8 houses.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Ash Sam

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

>

> Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> that time was Ra/Moon.

> Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

>

> As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

>

> Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> from by a glance.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> >

> > Thank you Ash..

> > Here is my second atempt...

> >

> > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > Ash's post).

> >

> > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > marriage will be

> > after that

> > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > that date. It was

> > ra/mo.

> > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> >

> > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> >

> > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> >

> > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > --------------

> > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> >

> > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > in effect

> > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > having maximum

> > strength.

> > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > antra of a planet

> > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > LoD but without

> > strength?

> >

> > If we do postpone the date further,

> > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > ju aspects A. Then

> > we have

> > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > The period of

> > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > sector of antra since

> > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> >

> > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > following narrowed

> > period of marriage:

> > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > of marriage.

> >

> > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > the native may be

> > unhappy in his marriage.

> >

> > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > Shani.

> > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > reaches 0 degrees

> > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > >

> > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > see were guru is

> > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > if he aspects

> > shani

> > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > >

> > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > >

> > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > ,

> > " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > >

> > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > >

> > > > Marriage

> > > > --------

> > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > between ve and su is

> > 40.2.

> > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > >

> > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > --------------

> > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > >

> > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > 2:12 each.

> > Hence,

> > > > happiness

> > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > >

> > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > A, B, and C.

> > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > is modulated.

> > > >

> > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > Hence, the marriage

> > might

> > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > >

> > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > aspects house A

> > for

> > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > However, no nakshatra

> > and

> > > > sign

> > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > transitted visakha

> > in

> > > > libra from

> > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > likely period of

> > > > marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Children

> > > > --------

> > > >

> > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > children. However,

> > > there

> > > > seems to

> > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > date might have

> > fallen

> > > > in Ju antra

> > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > >

> > > > Occupation

> > > > ----------

> > > >

> > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > likely he is in

> > > service

> > > > due to the

> > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > seems to be average

> > but

> > > > more than his

> > > > expenditure.

> > > >

> > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > Hence, the native

> > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > >

> > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > was transiting

> > hs2,

> > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > >

> > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > Also, I can't

> > predict

> >

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February 1, 2004

Dear Manu and list members,

Yes you are right. But what is it showing you. Check the status of

Shani from all angles and then the points. Here check for which house

Shani is LoD or LoE ?

Focus on area of job and authority and income and expenses ?

What would be your deduction ?

There is an important point I want you to observe....

Think on it.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> The following is the strength summary sheet.

>

> Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 2 5 2 4 4 5 4

> hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 - L6A

> hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 - L6A

> hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 - ...

> hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 - ...

> hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 - ...

> hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 - ...

> hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 - ...

> hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 - ...

> hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 - ...

> hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 - L6A

> hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 - ...

> hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 - ...

>

> It seems that Sa antra might not be very favourable since it has

low

> points in 8 houses.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash Sam

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> >

> > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> >

> > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > from by a glance.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > >

> > > Thank you Ash..

> > > Here is my second atempt...

> > >

> > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > Ash's post).

> > >

> > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > marriage will be

> > > after that

> > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > that date. It was

> > > ra/mo.

> > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > >

> > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > >

> > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > >

> > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > --------------

> > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > >

> > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > in effect

> > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > having maximum

> > > strength.

> > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > antra of a planet

> > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > LoD but without

> > > strength?

> > >

> > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > we have

> > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > The period of

> > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > sector of antra since

> > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > >

> > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > following narrowed

> > > period of marriage:

> > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > of marriage.

> > >

> > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > the native may be

> > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > >

> > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > Shani.

> > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > >

> > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > see were guru is

> > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > if he aspects

> > > shani

> > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > >

> > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > >

> > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > >

> > > > > Marriage

> > > > > --------

> > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > between ve and su is

> > > 40.2.

> > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > >

> > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > --------------

> > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > 2:12 each.

> > > Hence,

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > is modulated.

> > > > >

> > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > Hence, the marriage

> > > might

> > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > >

> > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > aspects house A

> > > for

> > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > However, no nakshatra

> > > and

> > > > > sign

> > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > transitted visakha

> > > in

> > > > > libra from

> > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > likely period of

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Children

> > > > > --------

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > children. However,

> > > > there

> > > > > seems to

> > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > date might have

> > > fallen

> > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > >

> > > > > Occupation

> > > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > likely he is in

> > > > service

> > > > > due to the

> > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > seems to be average

> > > but

> > > > > more than his

> > > > > expenditure.

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > was transiting

> > > hs2,

> > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > Also, I can't

> > > predict

> > >

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February 1, 2004

Dear Ash and List Members,

I will try again.

Sa has 4 points and is placed in hs5.

sa is LoD and LoE when we focus house B on 6th, 7th, 10th or 11th

which are houses for job, marriage, authority or responsibility and

income

respectively.

To determine the effects in Sa antra, let us see the ashtakavarga for

Sa.

hs1=4, hs2=2, hs3=3, hs4=6, hs5=4, hs6=4, hs7=3, hs8=1, hs9=3,

hs10=3, hs11=3, hs12=3.

hs2, hs7, hs9, hs10, hs11, and hs12 have lower points and hs8 has

least.

Hence, Sa's antra may give misery (hs8) due to less savings,

difficulties in marriage,

authority, income and more expenses.

For hs11 (income), Sa is in navamsa of Su, the 12th lord from B.

For hs6 (job), Sa has low points (11) and is lord of D.

For hs10 (authority), Sa has 27 points and is lord of E.

For hs12 (expenses), Sa has 12 points.

Ash, I think I still fail to see the point. It is not very evident to

me. Kindly help.

Thanks & Regards,

manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu and list members,

> Yes you are right. But what is it showing you. Check the status

of

> Shani from all angles and then the points. Here check for which

house

> Shani is LoD or LoE ?

>

> Focus on area of job and authority and income and expenses ?

> What would be your deduction ?

>

> There is an important point I want you to observe....

>

> Think on it.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > The following is the strength summary sheet.

> >

> > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > 2 5 2 4 4 5 4

> > hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 - L6A

> > hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 - L6A

> > hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 - ...

> > hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 - ...

> > hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 - ...

> > hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 - ...

> > hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 - ...

> > hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 - ...

> > hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 - ...

> > hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 - L6A

> > hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 - ...

> > hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 - ...

> >

> > It seems that Sa antra might not be very favourable since it has

> low

> > points in 8 houses.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , Ash Sam

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu,

> > >

> > > Very good points. Here check the status of moon.

> > > You are very right in pointing out the exact time of

> > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra running at

> > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here Moon is

> > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last 1/3rd

> > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on 28th

> > > december 1998. This date is falling in the 1st 1/3rd

> > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there may be

> > > some change in birth time. Marriage should have

> > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra. Sometimes

> > > there are man made delays due to non availibilty of

> > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not know what

> > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > >

> > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > significator however it is SD to Venus by being in

> > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in navamsa.

> > >

> > > Manu, now find the more difficult period overall for

> > > the native. Study overall points. You can tell that

> > > from by a glance.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > >

> > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju (as per

> > > > Ash's post).

> > > >

> > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995. Hence,

> > > > marriage will be

> > > > after that

> > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the dasha on

> > > > that date. It was

> > > > ra/mo.

> > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > >

> > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > >

> > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > >

> > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > --------------

> > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > >

> > > > Now here I have a doubt again Ash. Although ra/mo is

> > > > in effect

> > > > and there is no additional delay, but mo is not

> > > > having maximum

> > > > strength.

> > > > So, should we postpone the prediction further to an

> > > > antra of a planet

> > > > with more strength like ve that is LoE or Sa that is

> > > > LoD but without

> > > > strength?

> > > >

> > > > If we do postpone the date further,

> > > > we find that after ra/mo, we have ra/ma.

> > > > However, ma aspects A. Then we get ju/ju. However,

> > > > ju aspects A. Then

> > > > we have

> > > > ju/sa and this will give marriage since sa is LoD.

> > > > The period of

> > > > ju/sa is from 1/9/2000 to

> > > > 7/22/2002. The marriage will happen in the first

> > > > sector of antra since

> > > > Sa is LoE without any 0 points in SAV.

> > > >

> > > > As per sun's transit of visakha libra, we get the

> > > > following narrowed

> > > > period of marriage:

> > > > 11/5/2002 to 11/14/2002. This may be a likely date

> > > > of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > However, sa has low points for hs7 viz. 8. Hence,

> > > > the native may be

> > > > unhappy in his marriage.

> > > >

> > > > I am still not very sure Ash. Can you kindly review.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > For marriage Here Shani is in 5th house. Its

> > > > aspecting ABC for 7th

> > > > > so there is full delay and delay causing planet is

> > > > Shani.

> > > > > Since there are no zeroes so no additional delay.

> > > > > So marriage can happen after Shani transits and

> > > > reaches 0 degrees

> > > > > pisces so we say approx 27.5 deg.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now who can check delay of Shani. Its guru. Here

> > > > see were guru is

> > > > > in navamsa. Its in house of shani. So guru even

> > > > if he aspects

> > > > shani

> > > > > cannot check delay of shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > So this is hint. How think again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try again. You are on the right track.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Shashank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is my attempt...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marriage

> > > > > > --------

> > > > > > NK and FK for marriage is ve.

> > > > > > Ve is in nakshatra of ashwini. Difference

> > > > between ve and su is

> > > > 40.2.

> > > > > > Strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B L6

> > > > > > --------------

> > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - L6

> > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > > 8-sa - AA - AB - AC - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SAV for hs1 is 30 and hs7 is 24.

> > > > > > Also, Lords of asc, mo, su and their 7ths are in

> > > > 2:12 each.

> > > > Hence,

> > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > from marriage may be below average.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are no zeros in SAV table and Sa aspects

> > > > A, B, and C.

> > > > > > However, it is lord of D. Hence, the full delay

> > > > is modulated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ve has maximum strength, and is lord of E.

> > > > Hence, the marriage

> > > > might

> > > > > > have taken place in first sector of ra/ve from

> > > > 6/1991 to 6/1992

> > > > > > when the native was 25/26 yrs of age.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For su's transit, we select ve and me since ju

> > > > aspects house A

> > > > for

> > > > > > hs7 as well as

> > > > > > hs2 and me has higher points too for hs2.

> > > > However, no nakshatra

> > > > and

> > > > > > sign

> > > > > > combination exists for me and ve. Hence, we

> > > > revert to ve and ju.

> > > > > > We get Visakha in Libra for sun's transit. Su

> > > > transitted visakha

> > > > in

> > > > > > libra from

> > > > > > 11/6/1991 to 11/15/1991. Hence, this may be the

> > > > likely period of

> > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Children

> > > > > > --------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know how to determine the number of

> > > > children. However,

> > > > > there

> > > > > > seems to

> > > > > > be no delay in birth of children. Conception

> > > > date might have

> > > > fallen

> > > > > > in Ju antra

> > > > > > since it has most strength for hs5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Occupation

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native has average intelligence. And most

> > > > likely he is in

> > > > > service

> > > > > > due to the

> > > > > > zigzag pattern for 3, 6, 10, 11. His income

> > > > seems to be average

> > > > but

> > > > > > more than his

> > > > > > expenditure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SAV for house 6 is 26. Below average. And SAV

> > > > for house 5 is 35.

> > > > > > Hence, the native

> > > > > > may keep changing jobs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 21st november 2003, ju/me was in effect. Su

> > > > was transiting

> > > > hs2,

> > > > > > lib rules by ve.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I fail to understand why native lost his job.

> > > > Also, I can't

> > > > predict

> > > >

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February 1, 2004

Dear Manu,

Check again the points you are getting in the WS for

Shani for 10th house. Its 10 points.

Here Shani is LoD and LoE for 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th.

Shani has < 12 points in WS for each and every house.

I think you have some computation error in the WS.

Here at a glance you can see that Shani antra will be

difficult. However the important point is that for

the house its LoD or LoE it might give the result

however IT WILL NOT GIVE HAPPINESS.

So here the native might get a job and authority but

no happiness from it.

He may get a title but no responsibility. He may get

income but at same time might have to spend it or

after some trouble or being held up.

Re check your points in the WS and be very careful

when casting the WS. IF WS is wrong everything will

go wrong.

Cheers !!!

Ash

--- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> Dear Ash and List Members,

>

> I will try again.

>

> Sa has 4 points and is placed in hs5.

> sa is LoD and LoE when we focus house B on 6th, 7th,

> 10th or 11th

> which are houses for job, marriage, authority or

> responsibility and

> income

> respectively.

>

> To determine the effects in Sa antra, let us see the

> ashtakavarga for

> Sa.

> hs1=4, hs2=2, hs3=3, hs4=6, hs5=4, hs6=4, hs7=3,

> hs8=1, hs9=3,

> hs10=3, hs11=3, hs12=3.

>

> hs2, hs7, hs9, hs10, hs11, and hs12 have lower

> points and hs8 has

> least.

> Hence, Sa's antra may give misery (hs8) due to less

> savings,

> difficulties in marriage,

> authority, income and more expenses.

>

> For hs11 (income), Sa is in navamsa of Su, the 12th

> lord from B.

> For hs6 (job), Sa has low points (11) and is lord of

> D.

> For hs10 (authority), Sa has 27 points and is lord

> of E.

> For hs12 (expenses), Sa has 12 points.

>

> Ash, I think I still fail to see the point. It is

> not very evident to

> me. Kindly help.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> manu

>

> ,

> " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu and list members,

> > Yes you are right. But what is it showing you.

> Check the status

> of

> > Shani from all angles and then the points. Here

> check for which

> house

> > Shani is LoD or LoE ?

> >

> > Focus on area of job and authority and income and

> expenses ?

> > What would be your deduction ?

> >

> > There is an important point I want you to

> observe....

> >

> > Think on it.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ,

> " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > The following is the strength summary sheet.

> > >

> > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > 2 5 2 4 4 5 4

> > > hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 -

> L6A

> > > hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 -

> L6A

> > > hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 -

> ...

> > > hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 -

> ...

> > > hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 -

> ...

> > > hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 -

> ...

> > > hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 -

> ...

> > > hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 -

> ...

> > > hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 -

> ...

> > > hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 -

> L6A

> > > hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 -

> ...

> > > hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 -

> ...

> > >

> > > It seems that Sa antra might not be very

> favourable since it has

> > low

> > > points in 8 houses.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> Ash Sam

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > >

> > > > Very good points. Here check the status of

> moon.

> > > > You are very right in pointing out the exact

> time of

> > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> running at

> > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here

> Moon is

> > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last

> 1/3rd

> > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on

> 28th

> > > > december 1998. This date is falling in the

> 1st 1/3rd

> > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there

> may be

> > > > some change in birth time. Marriage should

> have

> > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra.

> Sometimes

> > > > there are man made delays due to non

> availibilty of

> > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not

> know what

> > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > >

> > > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> being in

> > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> overall for

> > > > the native. Study overall points. You can

> tell that

> > > > from by a glance.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > >

> > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju

> (as per

> > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > >

> > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995.

> Hence,

> > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > after that

> > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the

> dasha on

> > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > >

> > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > >

> > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > >

> > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B

> L6

> > > > >

> --------------

> > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... -

> ..

> > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> ..

> > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> ..

> > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> ..

> > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B -

> L6

> > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> ..

>

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Dear Ash,

When a planet is having 4 points in Ashtakavarga and it is Lord of D

or E, should the points of planets in 4th from it be added in WS?

Sanjay's worksheet adds the points while the other worksheet does not.

If I do not add the points, I get the following for B=hs10.

A=hs5, B=hs10, C=hs2, D=hs7, E=hs3.

St Pl -----Samdharmi------ - AA - AB - AC - LD - LE - PU - L12B - L6

---

22-ma .. xx xx xx xx xx xx - .. - AB - AC - .. - .. - PD - .... - L6

18-ju .. .. xx xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

17-ve .. .. .. xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

12-me .. .. .. .. xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

11-su ma .. ve .. .. xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

09-sa .. .. ve .. su .. xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

08-mo ma ju ve .. su .. .. - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - ..

xx-ra .. .. ve .. su .. ..

xx-ke ma ju .. .. .. .. ..

If I do add the points, I get the following for B=hs10.

A=hs5, B=hs10, C=hs2, D=hs7, E=hs3.

St Pl -----Samdharmi------ - AA - AB - AC - LD - LE - PU - L12B - L6

---

27-sa .. xx xx xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

22-ma .. .. xx xx xx xx xx - .. - AB - AC - .. - .. - PD - .... - L6

18-ju sa .. .. xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

17-ve sa .. .. .. xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

12-me .. .. .. .. .. xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

11-su .. ma .. ve .. .. xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

08-mo .. ma ju ve .. su .. - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - ..

xx-ra .. .. .. ve .. su ..

xx-ke .. ma ju .. .. .. ..

I think if we remember that LD and LE can give result even with low

points (unfavourable as you indicated), then it should be fine to not

add the points.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Ash Sam

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> Check again the points you are getting in the WS for

> Shani for 10th house. Its 10 points.

> Here Shani is LoD and LoE for 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th.

> Shani has < 12 points in WS for each and every house.

> I think you have some computation error in the WS.

>

> Here at a glance you can see that Shani antra will be

> difficult. However the important point is that for

> the house its LoD or LoE it might give the result

> however IT WILL NOT GIVE HAPPINESS.

> So here the native might get a job and authority but

> no happiness from it.

> He may get a title but no responsibility. He may get

> income but at same time might have to spend it or

> after some trouble or being held up.

>

> Re check your points in the WS and be very careful

> when casting the WS. IF WS is wrong everything will

> go wrong.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Ash and List Members,

> >

> > I will try again.

> >

> > Sa has 4 points and is placed in hs5.

> > sa is LoD and LoE when we focus house B on 6th, 7th,

> > 10th or 11th

> > which are houses for job, marriage, authority or

> > responsibility and

> > income

> > respectively.

> >

> > To determine the effects in Sa antra, let us see the

> > ashtakavarga for

> > Sa.

> > hs1=4, hs2=2, hs3=3, hs4=6, hs5=4, hs6=4, hs7=3,

> > hs8=1, hs9=3,

> > hs10=3, hs11=3, hs12=3.

> >

> > hs2, hs7, hs9, hs10, hs11, and hs12 have lower

> > points and hs8 has

> > least.

> > Hence, Sa's antra may give misery (hs8) due to less

> > savings,

> > difficulties in marriage,

> > authority, income and more expenses.

> >

> > For hs11 (income), Sa is in navamsa of Su, the 12th

> > lord from B.

> > For hs6 (job), Sa has low points (11) and is lord of

> > D.

> > For hs10 (authority), Sa has 27 points and is lord

> > of E.

> > For hs12 (expenses), Sa has 12 points.

> >

> > Ash, I think I still fail to see the point. It is

> > not very evident to

> > me. Kindly help.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > manu

> >

> > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu and list members,

> > > Yes you are right. But what is it showing you.

> > Check the status

> > of

> > > Shani from all angles and then the points. Here

> > check for which

> > house

> > > Shani is LoD or LoE ?

> > >

> > > Focus on area of job and authority and income and

> > expenses ?

> > > What would be your deduction ?

> > >

> > > There is an important point I want you to

> > observe....

> > >

> > > Think on it.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > ,

> > " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > The following is the strength summary sheet.

> > > >

> > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > > 2 5 2 4 4 5 4

> > > > hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 -

> > L6A

> > > > hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 -

> > L6A

> > > > hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 -

> > ...

> > > > hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 -

> > ...

> > > > hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 -

> > ...

> > > > hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 -

> > ...

> > > > hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 -

> > ...

> > > > hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 -

> > ...

> > > > hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 -

> > ...

> > > > hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 -

> > L6A

> > > > hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 -

> > ...

> > > > hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 -

> > ...

> > > >

> > > > It seems that Sa antra might not be very

> > favourable since it has

> > > low

> > > > points in 8 houses.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > Ash Sam

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Very good points. Here check the status of

> > moon.

> > > > > You are very right in pointing out the exact

> > time of

> > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> > running at

> > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here

> > Moon is

> > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last

> > 1/3rd

> > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on

> > 28th

> > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in the

> > 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there

> > may be

> > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage should

> > have

> > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra.

> > Sometimes

> > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> > availibilty of

> > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not

> > know what

> > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> > being in

> > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> > overall for

> > > > > the native. Study overall points. You can

> > tell that

> > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju

> > (as per

> > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995.

> > Hence,

> > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > after that

> > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the

> > dasha on

> > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B

> > L6

> > > > > >

> > --------------

> > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... -

> > ..

> > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > ..

> > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > ..

> > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > ..

> > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B -

> > L6

> > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > ..

> >

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February 1, 2004

Dear Manu,

House D and E are special. They are always eager to give results.

Even if they have low points in the WS it does not matter. It will

still try to give results. However Happiness from the result is a

different thing altogether.

Say a planet is with low points for 4th house and antra of 9th lord

or 1st lord is running (LoD or LoE). Say this planet is having less

points in the worksheet for 4th house. Here the person might be able

to acquire a car but that car might frequently break down or might

have some problem or the other.

This is just as an analogy to distinguish between timing and

happiness from the event.

LoD or LoE with 4 points and if there is a planet in 4th from it with

more points then it can take its points.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> When a planet is having 4 points in Ashtakavarga and it is Lord of

D

> or E, should the points of planets in 4th from it be added in WS?

> Sanjay's worksheet adds the points while the other worksheet does

not.

>

> If I do not add the points, I get the following for B=hs10.

>

> A=hs5, B=hs10, C=hs2, D=hs7, E=hs3.

>

> St Pl -----Samdharmi------ - AA - AB - AC - LD - LE - PU - L12B - L6

> --

-

> 22-ma .. xx xx xx xx xx xx - .. - AB - AC - .. - .. - PD - .... - L6

> 18-ju .. .. xx xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 17-ve .. .. .. xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 12-me .. .. .. .. xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

> 11-su ma .. ve .. .. xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

> 09-sa .. .. ve .. su .. xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> 08-mo ma ju ve .. su .. .. - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - ..

> xx-ra .. .. ve .. su .. ..

> xx-ke ma ju .. .. .. .. ..

>

> If I do add the points, I get the following for B=hs10.

>

> A=hs5, B=hs10, C=hs2, D=hs7, E=hs3.

>

> St Pl -----Samdharmi------ - AA - AB - AC - LD - LE - PU - L12B - L6

> --

-

> 27-sa .. xx xx xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - LE - .. - .... - ..

> 22-ma .. .. xx xx xx xx xx - .. - AB - AC - .. - .. - PD - .... - L6

> 18-ju sa .. .. xx xx xx xx - .. - .. - AC - .. - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 17-ve sa .. .. .. xx xx xx - .. - .. - .. - LD - .. - .. - .... - ..

> 12-me .. .. .. .. .. xx xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

> 11-su .. ma .. ve .. .. xx - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - PD - .... - ..

> 08-mo .. ma ju ve .. su .. - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B - ..

> xx-ra .. .. .. ve .. su ..

> xx-ke .. ma ju .. .. .. ..

>

> I think if we remember that LD and LE can give result even with low

> points (unfavourable as you indicated), then it should be fine to

not

> add the points.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash Sam

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > Check again the points you are getting in the WS for

> > Shani for 10th house. Its 10 points.

> > Here Shani is LoD and LoE for 6th, 7th, 10th and 11th.

> > Shani has < 12 points in WS for each and every house.

> > I think you have some computation error in the WS.

> >

> > Here at a glance you can see that Shani antra will be

> > difficult. However the important point is that for

> > the house its LoD or LoE it might give the result

> > however IT WILL NOT GIVE HAPPINESS.

> > So here the native might get a job and authority but

> > no happiness from it.

> > He may get a title but no responsibility. He may get

> > income but at same time might have to spend it or

> > after some trouble or being held up.

> >

> > Re check your points in the WS and be very careful

> > when casting the WS. IF WS is wrong everything will

> > go wrong.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and List Members,

> > >

> > > I will try again.

> > >

> > > Sa has 4 points and is placed in hs5.

> > > sa is LoD and LoE when we focus house B on 6th, 7th,

> > > 10th or 11th

> > > which are houses for job, marriage, authority or

> > > responsibility and

> > > income

> > > respectively.

> > >

> > > To determine the effects in Sa antra, let us see the

> > > ashtakavarga for

> > > Sa.

> > > hs1=4, hs2=2, hs3=3, hs4=6, hs5=4, hs6=4, hs7=3,

> > > hs8=1, hs9=3,

> > > hs10=3, hs11=3, hs12=3.

> > >

> > > hs2, hs7, hs9, hs10, hs11, and hs12 have lower

> > > points and hs8 has

> > > least.

> > > Hence, Sa's antra may give misery (hs8) due to less

> > > savings,

> > > difficulties in marriage,

> > > authority, income and more expenses.

> > >

> > > For hs11 (income), Sa is in navamsa of Su, the 12th

> > > lord from B.

> > > For hs6 (job), Sa has low points (11) and is lord of

> > > D.

> > > For hs10 (authority), Sa has 27 points and is lord

> > > of E.

> > > For hs12 (expenses), Sa has 12 points.

> > >

> > > Ash, I think I still fail to see the point. It is

> > > not very evident to

> > > me. Kindly help.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu and list members,

> > > > Yes you are right. But what is it showing you.

> > > Check the status

> > > of

> > > > Shani from all angles and then the points. Here

> > > check for which

> > > house

> > > > Shani is LoD or LoE ?

> > > >

> > > > Focus on area of job and authority and income and

> > > expenses ?

> > > > What would be your deduction ?

> > > >

> > > > There is an important point I want you to

> > > observe....

> > > >

> > > > Think on it.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > The following is the strength summary sheet.

> > > > >

> > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > > > 2 5 2 4 4 5 4

> > > > > hs1 - 30 - 25 - 7 - 25 - 14 - 13 - 17 - 4 -

> > > L6A

> > > > > hs2 - 26 - 9 - 17 - 7 - 20 - 12 - 21 - 4 -

> > > L6A

> > > > > hs3 - 32 - 10 - 12 - 12 - 17 - 19 - 17 - 4 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs4 - 35 - 14 - 19 - 16 - 14 - 14 - 10 - 10 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs5 - 35 - 17 - 9 - 12 - 11 - 32 - 11 - 5 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs6 - 26 - 18 - 14 - 22 - 20 - 12 - 11 - 11 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs7 - 24 - 9 - 12 - 9 - 13 - 16 - 17 - 24 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs8 - 23 - 14 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 28 - 10 - 2 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs9 - 28 - 19 - 14 - 24 - 13 - 33 - 18 - 8 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs10 - 24 - 11 - 8 - 22 - 12 - 18 - 17 - 27 -

> > > L6A

> > > > > hs11 - 29 - 13 - 12 - 9 - 21 - 11 - 16 - 21 -

> > > ...

> > > > > hs12 - 25 - 13 - 16 - 9 - 13 - 31 - 6 - 12 -

> > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems that Sa antra might not be very

> > > favourable since it has

> > > > low

> > > > > points in 8 houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > Ash Sam

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Very good points. Here check the status of

> > > moon.

> > > > > > You are very right in pointing out the exact

> > > time of

> > > > > > saturns transit to 0 deg pisces. So antra

> > > running at

> > > > > > that time was Ra/Moon.

> > > > > > Here Moon is SD to Venus. Venus is LoE. Here

> > > Moon is

> > > > > > having 12 points. So native can marry in last

> > > 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Moon antra. The native married on

> > > 28th

> > > > > > december 1998. This date is falling in the

> > > 1st 1/3rd

> > > > > > sector of Mars antra. So I feel that there

> > > may be

> > > > > > some change in birth time. Marriage should

> > > have

> > > > > > occured in last 1/3rd sector of Moon antra.

> > > Sometimes

> > > > > > there are man made delays due to non

> > > availibilty of

> > > > > > mahurat etc. Those are man made. I do not

> > > know what

> > > > > > facts are maybe Shashank can clarify here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per your findings Moon is not the strongest

> > > > > > significator however it is SD to Venus by

> > > being in

> > > > > > navamsa of venus and conjoining venus in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manu, now find the more difficult period

> > > overall for

> > > > > > the native. Study overall points. You can

> > > tell that

> > > > > > from by a glance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Shashank,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you Ash..

> > > > > > > Here is my second atempt...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa causes full delay that is unchecked by ju

> > > (as per

> > > > > > > Ash's post).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa crosses 0 degrees of Pis on 5/18/1995.

> > > Hence,

> > > > > > > marriage will be

> > > > > > > after that

> > > > > > > due to full delay of Sani. Let us see the

> > > dasha on

> > > > > > > that date. It was

> > > > > > > ra/mo.

> > > > > > > ra/mo was from 5/5/1995 to 11/3/1996.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The strength sheet for marriage is:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A=hs2, B=hs7, C=hs11, D=hs4, E=hs12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > St Pl AA AB AC LD LE PU L12B

> > > L6

> > > > > > >

> > > --------------

> > > > > > > 17-ve - .. - .. - .. - .. - LE - .. - .... -

> > > ..

> > > > > > > 16-ju - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > > ..

> > > > > > > 13-me - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > > ..

> > > > > > > 12-mo - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > > ..

> > > > > > > 9-ma - AA - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - L12B -

> > > L6

> > > > > > > 9-su - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .. - .... -

> > > ..

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