Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Dear Members,Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb.Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb.Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon antra starts according to those programs?Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may throw off the "true" start date, due to rounding off).Thanks - Sateesh.Apr 15,1973Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1Hounslow, EnglandLongitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa too ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Dear Sateesh, Using Parashara Lights 4.03, Rahu-Moon starts on 20th of February (also Rahu-Mo-Mo etc.) All the best, Dadhi - Sateesh Batas Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:29 AM Request - software for Moon antra Dear Members,Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb.Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb.Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon antra starts according to those programs?Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may throw off the "true" start date, due to rounding off).Thanks - Sateesh.Apr 15,1973Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1Hounslow, EnglandLongitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa too ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Hello Sateesh and Dadhi, I'd already noticed with a demo version of GJ that the moon was slightly out compared to other programs. I get 17/2 for Sateesh's Ra- Mo with PL6, using Lahiri + 1°01. If you use the Krushna ayanamsha table calculator, with shifting rate of precession, 20/2 is doubtless right. There seems to be so much doubt about precise rate of precession, even among astronomers, and since our programs are all calculated in tropical and converted back, I don't think pinpointing dasha starts to the very day is very reliable -- best to allow a margin of a few days, no? Best wishes Graham , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > Dear Sateesh, > > Using Parashara Lights 4.03, Rahu-Moon starts on 20th of February (also Rahu-Mo-Mo etc.) > > All the best, > Dadhi > > > - > Sateesh Batas > > Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:29 AM > Request - software for Moon antra > > > Dear Members, > > Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb. > > Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb. > > Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon antra starts according to those programs? > > Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at > Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may throw off the " true " start date, due to rounding off). > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > Apr 15,1973 > Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1 > Hounslow, England > Longitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 > > Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa too > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 > > > - ----------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I got 2/18. That is very true Graham, precesion rate calculations are so very different. But I see no reason why that should be the case. I can understand that there might be difference of opinion on starting dates but why should there be any for rate of precision? This is confusing to me. Regards, Manu , " Graham Fox " <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > Hello Sateesh and Dadhi, > I'd already noticed with a demo version of GJ that the moon was > slightly out compared to other programs. I get 17/2 for Sateesh's Ra- > Mo with PL6, using Lahiri + 1°01. If you use the Krushna ayanamsha > table calculator, with shifting rate of precession, 20/2 is > doubtless right. There seems to be so much doubt about precise rate > of precession, even among astronomers, and since our programs are > all calculated in tropical and converted back, I don't think > pinpointing dasha starts to the very day is very reliable -- best to > allow a margin of a few days, no? > Best wishes > Graham > , " Dadhi " > <denis@d...> wrote: > > Dear Sateesh, > > > > Using Parashara Lights 4.03, Rahu-Moon starts on 20th of February > (also Rahu-Mo-Mo etc.) > > > > All the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > - > > Sateesh Batas > > > > Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:29 AM > > Request - software for Moon > antra > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb. > > > > Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb. > > > > Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when > the Moon antra starts according to those programs? > > > > Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your > software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at > > Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this > view may throw off the " true " start date, due to rounding off). > > > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > > > Apr 15,1973 > > Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1 > > Hounslow, England > > Longitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 > > > > Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises > in Navamsa too > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 31/01/2004 > > > > > > - > ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I don't know, but it seems to be the case. Perhaps the person who developed the Krushna ayanamsha calculator (perhaps it was Mr Krushna himself?) could explain how they arrived at the changing rates of precession, which in fact make it impossible (and no doubt rightly so) to enter a " Krushna ayanamsha " once and for all in a program and let it do the calculations. I get the impression that the astronomers can say where the vernal point is in a given year, but over time (even a few decades), the change of rate becomes a little uncertain. There are probably sound astronomical reasons for all this. Graham , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > I got 2/18. That is very true Graham, precesion rate calculations are > so very different. But I see no reason why that should be the case. I > can understand that there might be difference of opinion on starting > dates but why should there be any for rate of precision? This is > confusing to me. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " Graham Fox " > <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > > Hello Sateesh and Dadhi, > > I'd already noticed with a demo version of GJ that the moon was > > slightly out compared to other programs. I get 17/2 for Sateesh's > Ra- > > Mo with PL6, using Lahiri + 1°01. If you use the Krushna ayanamsha > > table calculator, with shifting rate of precession, 20/2 is > > doubtless right. There seems to be so much doubt about precise rate > > of precession, even among astronomers, and since our programs are > > all calculated in tropical and converted back, I don't think > > pinpointing dasha starts to the very day is very reliable -- best > to > > allow a margin of a few days, no? > > Best wishes > > Graham > > , " Dadhi " > > <denis@d...> wrote: > > > Dear Sateesh, > > > > > > Using Parashara Lights 4.03, Rahu-Moon starts on 20th of February > > (also Rahu-Mo-Mo etc.) > > > > > > All the best, > > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sateesh Batas > > > > > > Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:29 AM > > > Request - software for Moon > > antra > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb. > > > > > > Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb. > > > > > > Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when > > the Moon antra starts according to those programs? > > > > > > Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your > > software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at > > > Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this > > view may throw off the " true " start date, due to rounding off). > > > > > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > > > > > Apr 15,1973 > > > Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1 > > > Hounslow, England > > > Longitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 > > > > > > Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises > > in Navamsa too > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: > 31/01/2004 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ --- > - > > ----------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Dear Graham,Many thanks - and good points.Just one remark - I think Ash advises me (in JHL) to use 1*00*55, as opposed to 1*01*00 - could that be where the difference lies between 17th and 20th??Cheers - Sat.========- "Graham Fox" <fox.grahamSunday, February 01, 2004 7:46 AM Re: Request - software for Moon antraHello Sateesh and Dadhi, I'd already noticed with a demo version of GJ that the moon was slightly out compared to other programs. I get 17/2 for Sateesh's Ra-Mo with PL6, using Lahiri + 1°01. If you use the Krushna ayanamsha table calculator, with shifting rate of precession, 20/2 is doubtless right. There seems to be so much doubt about precise rate of precession, even among astronomers, and since our programs are all calculated in tropical and converted back, I don't think pinpointing dasha starts to the very day is very reliable -- best to allow a margin of a few days, no? ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 That's nice to know, because that's what I'd been using, as I find it comes closer to the Excel sheet (at least for my birth year) than 1°01, but I changed back to 1°01 to calculate your chart just to be " kosher " and follow the instructions in the lessons! Graham , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Graham, > > Many thanks - and good points. > > Just one remark - I think Ash advises me (in JHL) to use 1*00*55, as opposed to 1*01*00 - could that be where the difference lies between 17th and 20th?? > > Cheers - Sat. > > ======== > > - > " Graham Fox " <fox.graham@w...> > > Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:46 AM > Re: Request - software for Moon antra > > > Hello Sateesh and Dadhi, > > I'd already noticed with a demo version of GJ that the moon was slightly out compared to other programs. I get 17/2 for Sateesh's Ra- Mo with PL6, using Lahiri + 1°01. If you use the Krushna ayanamsha table calculator, with shifting rate of precession, 20/2 is > doubtless right. There seems to be so much doubt about precise rate of precession, even among astronomers, and since our programs are all calculated in tropical and converted back, I don't think pinpointing dasha starts to the very day is very reliable -- best to allow a margin of a few days, no? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 :-) Incidentally does my moon change then with 1*00*55, if you can have a look? Thanks - Sat. - " Graham Fox " <fox.graham Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:38 PM Re: Request - software for Moon antra That's nice to know, because that's what I'd been using, as I find it comes closer to the Excel sheet (at least for my birth year) than 1°01, but I changed back to 1°01 to calculate your chart just to be " kosher " and follow the instructions in the lessons! Graham , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Graham, > > Many thanks - and good points. > > Just one remark - I think Ash advises me (in JHL) to use 1*00*55, as opposed to 1*01*00 - could that be where the difference lies between 17th and 20th?? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Sateesh -- Yes, all is well: with -1°00'55 " , Rahu-Moon starts on 18th Feb with PL6. Graham , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > :-) > > Incidentally does my moon change then with 1*00*55, if you can have a look? > > Thanks - Sat. > > > - > " Graham Fox " <fox.graham@w...> > > Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:38 PM > Re: Request - software for Moon antra > > > That's nice to know, because that's what I'd been using, as I find > it comes closer to the Excel sheet (at least for my birth year) than > 1°01, but I changed back to 1°01 to calculate your chart just to > be " kosher " and follow the instructions in the lessons! > Graham > , " Sateesh Batas " > <makara@n...> wrote: > > Dear Graham, > > > > Many thanks - and good points. > > > > Just one remark - I think Ash advises me (in JHL) to use 1*00*55, > as opposed to 1*01*00 - could that be where the difference lies > between 17th and 20th?? > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Dear Graham (no relation to James/Edward Fox, I take it :-) ), Thanks a ton - much appreciated. The 18th seems the more frequent date coming up across the softwares - thanks for the heads-up on the GJ demo Moon positions, btw. Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - "Graham Fox" <fox.graham Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:29 PM Re: Request - software for Moon antra Sateesh -- Yes, all is well: with -1°00'55", Rahu-Moon starts on 18th Feb with PL6.Graham ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 What is GJ? Sateesh Batas [makara]Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:59 PM Subject: Request - software for Moon antra Dear Members,Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb.Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb.Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon antra starts according to those programs?Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 levels of dasa, please look at Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may throw off the "true" start date, due to rounding off).Thanks - Sateesh.Apr 15,1973Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1Hounslow, EnglandLongitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa too ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Gauravani Jyotish I suppose. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Pankaj Sharma " <ssa@n...> wrote: > What is GJ? > > Sateesh Batas [makara@n...] > Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:59 PM > > Request - software for Moon antra > > > Dear Members, > > Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb. > > Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb. > > Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon > antra starts according to those programs? > > Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 > levels of dasa, please look at > Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may > throw off the " true " start date, due to rounding off). > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > Apr 15,1973 > Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1 > Hounslow, England > Longitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 > > Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa > too > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 > > > -- -------- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hi Everyone, Checking in to say “Hi” after a long period of quiet…J…then back to work and lurk mode… For Sateesh…Using Krushna’s Ayanamsa, here are the results of a few other software programs: Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using SJS – Shri Jyoti Star 5) on February 21, 2004 at 3:00 AM Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using JH5 – Jagannatha Hora Professional) on February 19, 2004 at 1:21:18 AM Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using PL6 – Parashara Light 6) on February 18, 2004 at 00:47 AM All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com Manu Batura [manubatura] Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Request - software for Moon antra Gauravani Jyotish I suppose. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Pankaj Sharma " <ssa@n...> wrote: > What is GJ? > > Sateesh Batas [makara@n...] > Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:59 PM > To: > Subject: Request - software for Moon antra > > > Dear Members, > > Using GJ 2.26, I have my Rahu-Moon antra starting on 13th Feb. > > Using JHL, it starts on 18th Feb. > > Could anyone with different softwares to these let me know when the Moon > antra starts according to those programs? > > Please drill down to the lowest level you can, e.g. if your software has 5 > levels of dasa, please look at > Rahu-Moon-Moon-Moon-Moon, rather than just Rahu-Moon (as this view may > throw off the " true " start date, due to rounding off). > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > Apr 15,1973 > Time: 7:28PM Zone: 0:00 DST: 1 > Hounslow, England > Longitude: 0W22 Latitude: 51N29 > > Lagna using Krushna's ayanamsa - 28:56 Virgo - and Virgo rises in Navamsa > too > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 31/01/2004 > > > -- -------- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Dear Sandy, Great to see you back - and many thanks for the below threesome. I think I will take the mean average of all of these (and then check that day's TRs of course ;-) ) . Cheers - Sat. ======== - Sandy Crowther Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:27 PM RE: Re: Request - software for Moon antra Hi Everyone, Checking in to say “Hi” after a long period of quiet…J…then back to work and lurk mode… For Sateesh…Using Krushna’s Ayanamsa, here are the results of a few other software programs: Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using SJS – Shri Jyoti Star 5) on February 21, 2004 at 3:00 AM Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using JH5 – Jagannatha Hora Professional) on February 19, 2004 at 1:21:18 AM Ra-Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo: begins (using PL6 – Parashara Light 6) on February 18, 2004 at 00:47 AM ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release 30/01/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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