Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in different houses and navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize for any ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar procedure could be followed for any ascendant but I could not understand it. What is the procedure? Kindly help. Thanks & Regards, Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Dear Manu, Good question. That lesson is very important. It high lights the theory of upchayas and House ABCDE. It shows you how u go around the chart in your mind looking at a house/planet from all angles i.e. as LoA, LoB, LoC and LoD and LoE. Look at the worksheet. Planets in House D and E with MORE POINTS (5,6,7 or 8 bindus) and LoD and LoE are eager to give results. Take first example. Lagna is Aries. Sun is 5th lord for Aries lagna. So Start with House A. Sun becomes LoA for 10th house. For 5th house as B it is LoB. It is House C for 6th house as B. It is house D for 8th house and House E for 12th house. Now consider placment of Sun. If its in 1st house i.e. in its unccha stan and with More points then it will be eager to give results for 4th and 8th house. Automatically for these houses the points will go up in the worksheet as Sun becomes a planet in House D or E with more points so its points are added. Now if its eager to give results for 4th house so a native may get landed property in Suns antra, 4th house is also for happiness so it will be eager to give that. Now if Mercury is 3rd lord. You also know that Death (natural) happens in 3rd lords Mahadasha or its samdharmi. So here 3rd lord for Aries lagna is Mercury. If this Mercury is situated in 12th house or 1st house with more points then it will go into House D for 3rd and when Mercury is in Lagna it is in House E for 8th so in Mercury Main and Sun antra there may be Danger to life of native. So here you have used the House D and E and planets in them with more points theory. If Mercury goes into 2nd house then there maybe no danger AS FROM 2ND HOUSE MERCURY ASPECTS 8TH HOUSE WHICH IS HOUSE B so in Mercury Mahadasha and Sun antra there may not be any danger. So here you have used the Aspect rule. Now if this Sun is in lagna and in unccha sthan and with more points then Person has less happiness from Maritial life. Why is that u may ask ? Simple, if Sun has more points in lagna and he is not LoD or LoE for 7th so he will give A MALEFIC DRISTI to 7th and take points off 7th thereby reducing Maritial happiness. So here you have used the rule of Benefic/Malefic Dristi and also keenly seen if the planet is not LoD or LoE. Now If the Same sun is with LESS POINTS AND IN LAGNA then PERSON GETS HAPPINESS IN MARITIAL LIFE. Why is that... because when Sun has less points in lagna it will give BENEFIC DRISTI. So again you have used the above concept. All this will also get computed in the Worksheet and if you OBSERVE THE WORKSHEET WHEN U GET SUCH CHARTS THAT THE POINTS IN 7TH WILL REDUCE. Like that you can also see degree wise i.e. Navamsa placments. If Sun is in 0 thru 3deg20 in Aries with more points then that will take Sun into Navamsa of Mars. A firey planet in a fiery navamsa .. this can make a person hot headed. Such a sun will make a person have attractive personality and good in sports. This position of Sun will also take Sun into Drekkhana of Mars. Sun between 3deg20 thru 6deg40 in Aries will take it to Navamsa of Venus. Such person has more sexual attraction, likes to live lavishly .. may have love marriage for aries lagna as 5th is ruled by Sun which rules love and its in navamsa of venus.. the planet of love... With this degrees Sun still will be in drekkhana of Mars so again another influence of Mars.. etc etc.... So if you can really focus well on that chapter u will learn the essence of this system.. and in your mind go around the chart.... from lagna thru 12th house... I hope u understand.. that Lesson is really awesome... Cheers !!! Ash --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, > > Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in > different houses and > navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize > for any > ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar > procedure could be > followed for any ascendant but I could not > understand it. What is the > procedure? > > Kindly help. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Dear Manu - To get a better visual of what Ash is trying to say, go to the FILES section and download the Excel Sheet called Krushna's Upachaya Charts, if you haven't done that already. It has the Upachaya houses for every ascendant in all its possible placements. Donna > Dear Manu, > Good question. > > That lesson is very important. It high lights the > theory of upchayas and House ABCDE. It shows you how > u go around the chart in your mind looking at a > house/planet from all angles i.e. as LoA, LoB, LoC and > LoD and LoE. > > Look at the worksheet. Planets in House D and E with > MORE POINTS (5,6,7 or 8 bindus) and LoD and LoE are > eager to give results. > > Take first example. > > Lagna is Aries. > > > Sun is 5th lord for Aries lagna. > So Start with House A. Sun becomes LoA for 10th > house. For 5th house as B it is LoB. It is House C > for 6th house as B. It is house D for 8th house and > House E for 12th house. > > Now consider placment of Sun. If its in 1st house > i.e. in its unccha stan and with More points then it > will be eager to give results for 4th and 8th house. > Automatically for these houses the points will go up > in the worksheet as Sun becomes a planet in House D or > E with more points so its points are added. > > Now if its eager to give results for 4th house so a > native may get landed property in Suns antra, 4th > house is also for happiness so it will be eager to > give that. > > Now if Mercury is 3rd lord. You also know that Death > (natural) happens in 3rd lords Mahadasha or its > samdharmi. So here 3rd lord for Aries lagna is > Mercury. If this Mercury is situated in 12th house or > 1st house with more points then it will go into House > D for 3rd and when Mercury is in Lagna it is in House > E for 8th so in Mercury Main and Sun antra there may > be Danger to life of native. > So here you have used the House D and E and planets in > them with more points theory. > > If Mercury goes into 2nd house then there maybe no > danger AS FROM 2ND HOUSE MERCURY ASPECTS 8TH HOUSE > WHICH IS HOUSE B so in Mercury Mahadasha and Sun antra > there may not be any danger. So here you have used > the Aspect rule. > > Now if this Sun is in lagna and in unccha sthan and > with more points then Person has less happiness from > Maritial life. Why is that u may ask ? > Simple, if Sun has more points in lagna and he is not > LoD or LoE for 7th so he will give A MALEFIC DRISTI to > 7th and take points off 7th thereby reducing Maritial > happiness. So here you have used the rule of > Benefic/Malefic Dristi and also keenly seen if the > planet is not LoD or LoE. > > Now If the Same sun is with LESS POINTS AND IN LAGNA > then PERSON GETS HAPPINESS IN MARITIAL LIFE. > Why is that... because when Sun has less points in > lagna it will give BENEFIC DRISTI. So again you have > used the above concept. All this will also get > computed in the Worksheet and if you OBSERVE THE > WORKSHEET WHEN U GET SUCH CHARTS THAT THE POINTS IN > 7TH WILL REDUCE. > > Like that you can also see degree wise i.e. Navamsa > placments. > > If Sun is in 0 thru 3deg20 in Aries with more points > then that will take Sun into Navamsa of Mars. A firey > planet in a fiery navamsa .. this can make a person > hot headed. Such a sun will make a person have > attractive personality and good in sports. > > This position of Sun will also take Sun into Drekkhana > of Mars. > > Sun between 3deg20 thru 6deg40 in Aries will take it > to Navamsa of Venus. Such person has more sexual > attraction, likes to live lavishly .. may have love > marriage for aries lagna as 5th is ruled by Sun which > rules love and its in navamsa of venus.. the planet of > love... > > With this degrees Sun still will be in drekkhana of > Mars so again another influence of Mars.. > > etc etc.... > > So if you can really focus well on that chapter u will > learn the essence of this system.. and in your mind go > around the chart.... from lagna thru 12th house... > > I hope u understand.. that Lesson is really awesome... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, > > > > Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in > > different houses and > > navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize > > for any > > ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar > > procedure could be > > followed for any ascendant but I could not > > understand it. What is the > > procedure? > > > > Kindly help. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Sorry Manu. Got the wrong Program. It's the very last one in the FILE section called Upachaya houses.xls Donna > Dear Manu, > Good question. > > That lesson is very important. It high lights the > theory of upchayas and House ABCDE. It shows you how > u go around the chart in your mind looking at a > house/planet from all angles i.e. as LoA, LoB, LoC and > LoD and LoE. > > Look at the worksheet. Planets in House D and E with > MORE POINTS (5,6,7 or 8 bindus) and LoD and LoE are > eager to give results. > > Take first example. > > Lagna is Aries. > > > Sun is 5th lord for Aries lagna. > So Start with House A. Sun becomes LoA for 10th > house. For 5th house as B it is LoB. It is House C > for 6th house as B. It is house D for 8th house and > House E for 12th house. > > Now consider placment of Sun. If its in 1st house > i.e. in its unccha stan and with More points then it > will be eager to give results for 4th and 8th house. > Automatically for these houses the points will go up > in the worksheet as Sun becomes a planet in House D or > E with more points so its points are added. > > Now if its eager to give results for 4th house so a > native may get landed property in Suns antra, 4th > house is also for happiness so it will be eager to > give that. > > Now if Mercury is 3rd lord. You also know that Death > (natural) happens in 3rd lords Mahadasha or its > samdharmi. So here 3rd lord for Aries lagna is > Mercury. If this Mercury is situated in 12th house or > 1st house with more points then it will go into House > D for 3rd and when Mercury is in Lagna it is in House > E for 8th so in Mercury Main and Sun antra there may > be Danger to life of native. > So here you have used the House D and E and planets in > them with more points theory. > > If Mercury goes into 2nd house then there maybe no > danger AS FROM 2ND HOUSE MERCURY ASPECTS 8TH HOUSE > WHICH IS HOUSE B so in Mercury Mahadasha and Sun antra > there may not be any danger. So here you have used > the Aspect rule. > > Now if this Sun is in lagna and in unccha sthan and > with more points then Person has less happiness from > Maritial life. Why is that u may ask ? > Simple, if Sun has more points in lagna and he is not > LoD or LoE for 7th so he will give A MALEFIC DRISTI to > 7th and take points off 7th thereby reducing Maritial > happiness. So here you have used the rule of > Benefic/Malefic Dristi and also keenly seen if the > planet is not LoD or LoE. > > Now If the Same sun is with LESS POINTS AND IN LAGNA > then PERSON GETS HAPPINESS IN MARITIAL LIFE. > Why is that... because when Sun has less points in > lagna it will give BENEFIC DRISTI. So again you have > used the above concept. All this will also get > computed in the Worksheet and if you OBSERVE THE > WORKSHEET WHEN U GET SUCH CHARTS THAT THE POINTS IN > 7TH WILL REDUCE. > > Like that you can also see degree wise i.e. Navamsa > placments. > > If Sun is in 0 thru 3deg20 in Aries with more points > then that will take Sun into Navamsa of Mars. A firey > planet in a fiery navamsa .. this can make a person > hot headed. Such a sun will make a person have > attractive personality and good in sports. > > This position of Sun will also take Sun into Drekkhana > of Mars. > > Sun between 3deg20 thru 6deg40 in Aries will take it > to Navamsa of Venus. Such person has more sexual > attraction, likes to live lavishly .. may have love > marriage for aries lagna as 5th is ruled by Sun which > rules love and its in navamsa of venus.. the planet of > love... > > With this degrees Sun still will be in drekkhana of > Mars so again another influence of Mars.. > > etc etc.... > > So if you can really focus well on that chapter u will > learn the essence of this system.. and in your mind go > around the chart.... from lagna thru 12th house... > > I hope u understand.. that Lesson is really awesome... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, > > > > Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in > > different houses and > > navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize > > for any > > ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar > > procedure could be > > followed for any ascendant but I could not > > understand it. What is the > > procedure? > > > > Kindly help. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Dear Donna, That is really useful. Being able to look at various upachaya houses at the same time! Thanks a lot. Regards, manu , Donna Quinn <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > > Sorry Manu. Got the wrong Program. It's the very last one in the > FILE section called Upachaya houses.xls > > Donna > > > > > Dear Manu, > > Good question. > > > > That lesson is very important. It high lights the > > theory of upchayas and House ABCDE. It shows you how > > u go around the chart in your mind looking at a > > house/planet from all angles i.e. as LoA, LoB, LoC and > > LoD and LoE. > > > > Look at the worksheet. Planets in House D and E with > > MORE POINTS (5,6,7 or 8 bindus) and LoD and LoE are > > eager to give results. > > > > Take first example. > > > > Lagna is Aries. > > > > > > Sun is 5th lord for Aries lagna. > > So Start with House A. Sun becomes LoA for 10th > > house. For 5th house as B it is LoB. It is House C > > for 6th house as B. It is house D for 8th house and > > House E for 12th house. > > > > Now consider placment of Sun. If its in 1st house > > i.e. in its unccha stan and with More points then it > > will be eager to give results for 4th and 8th house. > > Automatically for these houses the points will go up > > in the worksheet as Sun becomes a planet in House D or > > E with more points so its points are added. > > > > Now if its eager to give results for 4th house so a > > native may get landed property in Suns antra, 4th > > house is also for happiness so it will be eager to > > give that. > > > > Now if Mercury is 3rd lord. You also know that Death > > (natural) happens in 3rd lords Mahadasha or its > > samdharmi. So here 3rd lord for Aries lagna is > > Mercury. If this Mercury is situated in 12th house or > > 1st house with more points then it will go into House > > D for 3rd and when Mercury is in Lagna it is in House > > E for 8th so in Mercury Main and Sun antra there may > > be Danger to life of native. > > So here you have used the House D and E and planets in > > them with more points theory. > > > > If Mercury goes into 2nd house then there maybe no > > danger AS FROM 2ND HOUSE MERCURY ASPECTS 8TH HOUSE > > WHICH IS HOUSE B so in Mercury Mahadasha and Sun antra > > there may not be any danger. So here you have used > > the Aspect rule. > > > > Now if this Sun is in lagna and in unccha sthan and > > with more points then Person has less happiness from > > Maritial life. Why is that u may ask ? > > Simple, if Sun has more points in lagna and he is not > > LoD or LoE for 7th so he will give A MALEFIC DRISTI to > > 7th and take points off 7th thereby reducing Maritial > > happiness. So here you have used the rule of > > Benefic/Malefic Dristi and also keenly seen if the > > planet is not LoD or LoE. > > > > Now If the Same sun is with LESS POINTS AND IN LAGNA > > then PERSON GETS HAPPINESS IN MARITIAL LIFE. > > Why is that... because when Sun has less points in > > lagna it will give BENEFIC DRISTI. So again you have > > used the above concept. All this will also get > > computed in the Worksheet and if you OBSERVE THE > > WORKSHEET WHEN U GET SUCH CHARTS THAT THE POINTS IN > > 7TH WILL REDUCE. > > > > Like that you can also see degree wise i.e. Navamsa > > placments. > > > > If Sun is in 0 thru 3deg20 in Aries with more points > > then that will take Sun into Navamsa of Mars. A firey > > planet in a fiery navamsa .. this can make a person > > hot headed. Such a sun will make a person have > > attractive personality and good in sports. > > > > This position of Sun will also take Sun into Drekkhana > > of Mars. > > > > Sun between 3deg20 thru 6deg40 in Aries will take it > > to Navamsa of Venus. Such person has more sexual > > attraction, likes to live lavishly .. may have love > > marriage for aries lagna as 5th is ruled by Sun which > > rules love and its in navamsa of venus.. the planet of > > love... > > > > With this degrees Sun still will be in drekkhana of > > Mars so again another influence of Mars.. > > > > etc etc.... > > > > So if you can really focus well on that chapter u will > > learn the essence of this system.. and in your mind go > > around the chart.... from lagna thru 12th house... > > > > I hope u understand.. that Lesson is really awesome... > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, > > > > > > Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in > > > different houses and > > > navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize > > > for any > > > ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar > > > procedure could be > > > followed for any ascendant but I could not > > > understand it. What is the > > > procedure? > > > > > > Kindly help. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Beautiful. Thanks Ash. Thanks & Regards, manu , Ash Sam <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu, > Good question. > > That lesson is very important. It high lights the > theory of upchayas and House ABCDE. It shows you how > u go around the chart in your mind looking at a > house/planet from all angles i.e. as LoA, LoB, LoC and > LoD and LoE. > > Look at the worksheet. Planets in House D and E with > MORE POINTS (5,6,7 or 8 bindus) and LoD and LoE are > eager to give results. > > Take first example. > > Lagna is Aries. > > > Sun is 5th lord for Aries lagna. > So Start with House A. Sun becomes LoA for 10th > house. For 5th house as B it is LoB. It is House C > for 6th house as B. It is house D for 8th house and > House E for 12th house. > > Now consider placment of Sun. If its in 1st house > i.e. in its unccha stan and with More points then it > will be eager to give results for 4th and 8th house. > Automatically for these houses the points will go up > in the worksheet as Sun becomes a planet in House D or > E with more points so its points are added. > > Now if its eager to give results for 4th house so a > native may get landed property in Suns antra, 4th > house is also for happiness so it will be eager to > give that. > > Now if Mercury is 3rd lord. You also know that Death > (natural) happens in 3rd lords Mahadasha or its > samdharmi. So here 3rd lord for Aries lagna is > Mercury. If this Mercury is situated in 12th house or > 1st house with more points then it will go into House > D for 3rd and when Mercury is in Lagna it is in House > E for 8th so in Mercury Main and Sun antra there may > be Danger to life of native. > So here you have used the House D and E and planets in > them with more points theory. > > If Mercury goes into 2nd house then there maybe no > danger AS FROM 2ND HOUSE MERCURY ASPECTS 8TH HOUSE > WHICH IS HOUSE B so in Mercury Mahadasha and Sun antra > there may not be any danger. So here you have used > the Aspect rule. > > Now if this Sun is in lagna and in unccha sthan and > with more points then Person has less happiness from > Maritial life. Why is that u may ask ? > Simple, if Sun has more points in lagna and he is not > LoD or LoE for 7th so he will give A MALEFIC DRISTI to > 7th and take points off 7th thereby reducing Maritial > happiness. So here you have used the rule of > Benefic/Malefic Dristi and also keenly seen if the > planet is not LoD or LoE. > > Now If the Same sun is with LESS POINTS AND IN LAGNA > then PERSON GETS HAPPINESS IN MARITIAL LIFE. > Why is that... because when Sun has less points in > lagna it will give BENEFIC DRISTI. So again you have > used the above concept. All this will also get > computed in the Worksheet and if you OBSERVE THE > WORKSHEET WHEN U GET SUCH CHARTS THAT THE POINTS IN > 7TH WILL REDUCE. > > Like that you can also see degree wise i.e. Navamsa > placments. > > If Sun is in 0 thru 3deg20 in Aries with more points > then that will take Sun into Navamsa of Mars. A firey > planet in a fiery navamsa .. this can make a person > hot headed. Such a sun will make a person have > attractive personality and good in sports. > > This position of Sun will also take Sun into Drekkhana > of Mars. > > Sun between 3deg20 thru 6deg40 in Aries will take it > to Navamsa of Venus. Such person has more sexual > attraction, likes to live lavishly .. may have love > marriage for aries lagna as 5th is ruled by Sun which > rules love and its in navamsa of venus.. the planet of > love... > > With this degrees Sun still will be in drekkhana of > Mars so again another influence of Mars.. > > etc etc.... > > So if you can really focus well on that chapter u will > learn the essence of this system.. and in your mind go > around the chart.... from lagna thru 12th house... > > I hope u understand.. that Lesson is really awesome... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Ash, Margarita and Group, > > > > Lesson 29 talks about effects of planets in > > different houses and > > navamsas for Aries ascendant. How can we generalize > > for any > > ascendant? Krushnaji indicated that similar > > procedure could be > > followed for any ascendant but I could not > > understand it. What is the > > procedure? > > > > Kindly help. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 > Dear Manu, > That is really useful. Being able to look at various upachaya houses > at the same time!> > Thanks a lot. You're welcome. You'll find it comes in very handy if you print out all the pages and put them into a notebook. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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