Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Dadhi, I just checked both charts. I want to confirm their marriage date. Did the couple marry or come close together in Me/Sa antra for the girl i.e 1993/02 thru 1995/10. When I overlap boys chart for him I am getting 1995/10 thru 1996/06 so overlap period of 1995/08 thru 1995/10. Can you please confirm this. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash ps : Was there DST. You have not mentioned any DST. I was getting Cancer lagna for the girl with the data you gave however with Adding DST I got Gemini. Can you please confirm or give us the Place of birth. , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > Dear members, > > I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at all? > > > Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 >Dear Dadhi,>I just checked both charts. I want to confirm their marriage date. >Did the couple marry or come close together in Me/Sa antra for the >girl i.e 1993/02 thru 1995/10.>When I overlap boys chart for him I am getting 1995/10 thru 1996/06 >so overlap period of 1995/08 thru 1995/10. Dear Ash, Thank you for help. Marriage date : 8. October 1994. >ps : Was there DST. You have not mentioned any DST. I was getting >Cancer lagna for the girl with the data you gave however with Adding >DST I got Gemini.>Can you please confirm or give us the Place of birth. Time zone is +1, Zagreb, Croatia, Europe. Gemini is Lagna for the girl. Thank you for help, All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hello Dadhi, I looked at both charts. In my opinion the female chart does not seem to indicate any major problems to have children In the male chart I noticed the following FK Moon is spoiledby the 6th lord in rashi and navamsa 6th lord also aspects house B for the 5th The 12th lord from B also aspects the karak Moon If you look at the planets that could give results when ruling out those who aspect house A,B or C, 12th lord from B, and those with enough points, not so many candidates are left. I suppose Venus, whose antar is running now could give results but she is also running Venus antar and Venus is in the 6th house and Mars is in the 4th place from it. I'm not sure how these two will behave in the matter. Best regards Margarita Dadhi wrote: >Dear members, > >I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at all? > > >Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > >Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > >For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, see below. > >All the best, >Dadhi > >---------- > > >Male: > >Lg, Ju - 1th >Ke - 2nd >Mo - 5th >Ve, Me - 7th >Sa, Su, Ra - 8th >Ma - 9th > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE Points > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > >Female: > >Lg- Gemini >Ke - 3rd >Ju - 5th house >Ve - 6th >Su, Me - 7th >Ma, Ra - 9th >Mo - 10th >Sa - 11th > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE Points > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Dadhi, How confident is the Guy of his birth time. What is the degree of lagna you are getting for the boy. The girls chart seems to be matching. In her chart marriage is as per the system which happened in the lowest significator. Now I had selected Me/Sa antra (lowest for 7th house) for a specific reason. Guru is in libra, Venus in jayeshta. 12th lord from 6th house is in 6th house. NK for childbirth is spoilt. Mars who is 6th lord .. and karak for 11th is afflicted by Rahu. Both are in 9th house. Marriage that happen in the lowest significator have some problems or the other. In this case it could be no or delayed child birth. Now Venus mahadasha has stared in 2002/10. I will leave it here and maybe Krushnaji and Margarita can guide me as to if there will be child birth in this chart. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > > >Dear Dadhi, > >I just checked both charts. I want to confirm their marriage date. > >Did the couple marry or come close together in Me/Sa antra for the > >girl i.e 1993/02 thru 1995/10. > >When I overlap boys chart for him I am getting 1995/10 thru 1996/06 > >so overlap period of 1995/08 thru 1995/10. > > > Dear Ash, > Thank you for help. Marriage date : 8. October 1994. > > > >ps : Was there DST. You have not mentioned any DST. I was getting > >Cancer lagna for the girl with the data you gave however with Adding > >DST I got Gemini. > >Can you please confirm or give us the Place of birth. > > > Time zone is +1, Zagreb, Croatia, Europe. Gemini is Lagna for the girl. > > Thank you for help, > > All the best, > Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Dadhi, What are the time zones? Was DST on? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > Dear members, > > I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at all? > > > Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > > For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, see below. > > All the best, > Dadhi > > ---------- > > > Male: > > Lg, Ju - 1th > Ke - 2nd > Mo - 5th > Ve, Me - 7th > Sa, Su, Ra - 8th > Ma - 9th > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE Points > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > > Female: > > Lg- Gemini > Ke - 3rd > Ju - 5th house > Ve - 6th > Su, Me - 7th > Ma, Ra - 9th > Mo - 10th > Sa - 11th > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE Points > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hello Ash, You rightly pointed out the position of Jupiter in Libra and Venus in Jyeshta. But I saw these positions only affecting her relationship, not the fact of having children. The position of Mars in the 9th house does not indicate being childless per se. Mars is also rather neutral having only 4 bindus. Pesonally, I see the male chart (if his TOB is right) more problematic for having children. For the female 2 charts can work; the 5th and the 11th. and both should indicate lack of children in a severe way. I just wondered about Venus and Mars. Venus is karak for the 5th and Mars karak for the 11th. They have 4:10 relationship both with 4 points; how are they going to act ? Is this relationship significant in the matter discussed ? Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: >Dear Dadhi, >How confident is the Guy of his birth time. What is the degree of >lagna you are getting for the boy. >The girls chart seems to be matching. In her chart marriage is as >per the system which happened in the lowest significator. > >Now I had selected Me/Sa antra (lowest for 7th house) for a specific >reason. Guru is in libra, Venus in jayeshta. 12th lord from 6th >house is in 6th house. NK for childbirth is spoilt. Mars who is 6th >lord .. and karak for 11th is afflicted by Rahu. Both are in 9th >house. > >Marriage that happen in the lowest significator have some problems or >the other. In this case it could be no or delayed child birth. > >Now Venus mahadasha has stared in 2002/10. > >I will leave it here and maybe Krushnaji and Margarita can guide me >as to if there will be child birth in this chart. > >Thanking you, >Cheers !!! >Ash > > , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> >wrote: > > > > >Dear Dadhi, > > >I just checked both charts. I want to confirm their marriage date. > > >Did the couple marry or come close together in Me/Sa antra for the > > >girl i.e 1993/02 thru 1995/10. > > >When I overlap boys chart for him I am getting 1995/10 thru >1996/06 > > >so overlap period of 1995/08 thru 1995/10. > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you for help. Marriage date : 8. October 1994. > > > > > > >ps : Was there DST. You have not mentioned any DST. I was >getting > > >Cancer lagna for the girl with the data you gave however with >Adding > > >DST I got Gemini. > > >Can you please confirm or give us the Place of birth. > > > > > > Time zone is +1, Zagreb, Croatia, Europe. Gemini is Lagna for the >girl. > > > > Thank you for help, > > > > All the best, > > Dadhi > > >-\ - >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Dear Krushnaji,Margarita, Dadhi and list members, It is due to these things that the marriage of the lady happened in the lowest significator. So there will be some problems. How and where those problems will manifest that part needs more clarity. Here atleast we can agree that due to indicators of Guru being in libra and venus in jayeshta and lagna/7th lord in 3:11 so can go either way marriage happened in lowest significator. How Guru is putrakarak for 5th as B and for 11th as B and For 11th as B then Mars is FK. Here Mars is spoilt by Rahu and Guru is spoilt by Gurus placement in Libra. Venus is FK for 5th as B is again spoilt by being in Jayeshta. I do not know for sure if Venus is Jayeshta is spoilt for Child birth or is it just for marriage or just SPOILT PERIOD. Here Venus is in 6th house with 4 bindus. 6th lord is Mars. Venus is in 10th from Mars and Mars is with 4 points so Venus cant get points from MArs however Venus is still boss so some relation between Venus and Mars is there. Venus is also in Trik sthan in Navamsa. Ok.. this Part I am not SURE OF.. BUT CHECK THIS OUT... In Saptamsa check BAV. MARS IS GIVING 2 ZEROES TO 12TH AND 8TH HOUSE AND MOON IS GIVING A ZERO TO 4TH HOUSE. This is for the ladys chart you check A+B+C points for which house 5 or 11 or both in Saptamsa ? But 3 zeroes.. ???? Krushnaji can you give some guidance here .... Is there going to be permenant no child or there will be delayed child birth ????? The 3 houses that get Zero are 4th, 12th and 8th. Margarita, I also see your point.. I shall re check the boys chart and understand your points. Interesting.... Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > You rightly pointed out the position of Jupiter in Libra and Venus in > Jyeshta. But I saw these positions only affecting her relationship, not > the fact of having children. > The position of Mars in the 9th house does not indicate being childless > per se. Mars is also rather neutral having only 4 bindus. > Pesonally, I see the male chart (if his TOB is right) more problematic > for having children. For the female 2 charts can work; the 5th and the > 11th. and both should indicate lack of children in a severe way. > I just wondered about Venus and Mars. Venus is karak for the 5th and > Mars karak for the 11th. They have 4:10 relationship both with 4 points; > how are they going to act ? Is this relationship significant in the > matter discussed ? > Best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > >Dear Dadhi, > >How confident is the Guy of his birth time. What is the degree of > >lagna you are getting for the boy. > >The girls chart seems to be matching. In her chart marriage is as > >per the system which happened in the lowest significator. > > > >Now I had selected Me/Sa antra (lowest for 7th house) for a specific > >reason. Guru is in libra, Venus in jayeshta. 12th lord from 6th > >house is in 6th house. NK for childbirth is spoilt. Mars who is 6th > >lord .. and karak for 11th is afflicted by Rahu. Both are in 9th > >house. > > > >Marriage that happen in the lowest significator have some problems or > >the other. In this case it could be no or delayed child birth. > > > >Now Venus mahadasha has stared in 2002/10. > > > >I will leave it here and maybe Krushnaji and Margarita can guide me > >as to if there will be child birth in this chart. > > > >Thanking you, > >Cheers !!! > >Ash > > > > , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> > >wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Dadhi, > > > >I just checked both charts. I want to confirm their marriage date. > > > >Did the couple marry or come close together in Me/Sa antra for the > > > >girl i.e 1993/02 thru 1995/10. > > > >When I overlap boys chart for him I am getting 1995/10 thru > >1996/06 > > > >so overlap period of 1995/08 thru 1995/10. > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Thank you for help. Marriage date : 8. October 1994. > > > > > > > > > >ps : Was there DST. You have not mentioned any DST. I was > >getting > > > >Cancer lagna for the girl with the data you gave however with > >Adding > > > >DST I got Gemini. > > > >Can you please confirm or give us the Place of birth. > > > > > > > > > Time zone is +1, Zagreb, Croatia, Europe. Gemini is Lagna for the > >girl. > > > > > > Thank you for help, > > > > > > All the best, > > > Dadhi > > > > > >- ------------- > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Dear Margarita, Thank you for this explanation. I just want to add that TOB of boy is correct (according to his sources). Couple have good marriage. All the best, Dadhi > 6208 margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...>> Sun Feb 8, 2004 9:15am> Re: Re: possible to have children ?> > > Hello Ash,> You rightly pointed out the position of Jupiter in Libra and Venus in> Jyeshta. But I saw these positions only affecting her relationship, not> the fact of having children.> The position of Mars in the 9th house does not indicate being childless> per se. Mars is also rather neutral having only 4 bindus.> Pesonally, I see the male chart (if his TOB is right) more problematic> for having children. For the female 2 charts can work; the 5th and the> 11th. and both should indicate lack of children in a severe way.> I just wondered about Venus and Mars. Venus is karak for the 5th and> Mars karak for the 11th. They have 4:10 relationship both with 4 points;> how are they going to act ? Is this relationship significant in the> matter discussed ?> Best regards> Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Dear Margarita, I took a closer look at the chart of the Man. Karak, Moon is in House E. LoB (Guru) is Samdharmi to LoE (Venus). Moon is in Nakshatra of LoD (Mercury) [Actually its Mool = Ketu so Ketu is acting more like Mercury). Moon is in own navamsa. Studying Status of 5th house, Saturn and Sun are opposing 5th house and Karak Moon. 6th lord is aspecting Karak moon in Rasi and Navamsa. Studying Status of LoD and LoE. LoE is Venus and is SD to 6th lord. Situated in Navamsa of Shani. LoD, Mercury is also SD to 6th lord and in Trik sthan in navamsa and situated with Shani. So Karak, LoD and LoE are afflicted by Shani the 6th lord. In Saptamsa, Karak Moon is in Saptamsa of 6th lord. Mercury, LoD is in trik sthan. Basic strength of all planets is less for Saptamsa i.e. < 12 except for Guru 14 and Mercury = 13. Mercury however is in Trik sthan. Currently Moon Mahadasha is running. Moon is Karak for child birth. However afflicted in Rasi, Navamsa and Saptamsa. Interesting.. Mostly all planets are having more points for 5th house except Mars. Jupiter is aspecting House B and C. Saturn is aspecting B. Mars is aspecting House A. Guru is SD to Venus however its with 12 points. Its antra in Moon MD has gone which did not give success in child birth. I feel it might have tried to give more positive results. Jupiter is with Mercury in Saptamsa, its basic points are more than 12. Its SD to LoE. But it did not give ???? Yes its aspecting House B and C but it might try to come forward for Venus ??? In any case I see your point, Margarita, that the Karak is afflicted by 6th lord in Rasi, Navamsa and and also in Saptamsa. What also concerns me is that marriage happened in the lowest significator for the lady. Is this permenant.. or case of delayed child birth....???? Maybe Krushnaji can guide us here and shed some light so that such situations become crystal clear. Thanking you for making me go back and do a more thorough analysis. Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Dadhi, > I looked at both charts. > In my opinion the female chart does not seem to indicate any major > problems to have children > In the male chart I noticed the following > FK Moon is spoiledby the 6th lord in rashi and navamsa > 6th lord also aspects house B for the 5th > The 12th lord from B also aspects the karak Moon > If you look at the planets that could give results when ruling out those > who aspect house A,B or C, 12th lord from B, and those with enough > points, not so many candidates are left. > I suppose Venus, whose antar is running now could give results but she > is also running Venus antar and Venus is in the 6th house and Mars is in > the 4th place from it. I'm not sure how these two will behave in the matter. > Best regards > Margarita > > > Dadhi wrote: > > >Dear members, > > > >I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at all? > > > > > >Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > > >Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > > > > >For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, see below. > > > >All the best, > >Dadhi > > > >---------- > > > > > >Male: > > > >Lg, Ju - 1th > >Ke - 2nd > >Mo - 5th > >Ve, Me - 7th > >Sa, Su, Ra - 8th > >Ma - 9th > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE Points > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > > > > > > >Female: > > > >Lg- Gemini > >Ke - 3rd > >Ju - 5th house > >Ve - 6th > >Su, Me - 7th > >Ma, Ra - 9th > >Mo - 10th > >Sa - 11th > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the summary below > > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE Points > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Yes, Ash, I think we will ask Krushna for more light. I will try to go through both charts again but after a certain time things seem less clear than in the beginning. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: >Dear Margarita, >I took a closer look at the chart of the Man. > >Karak, Moon is in House E. LoB (Guru) is Samdharmi to LoE (Venus). >Moon is in Nakshatra of LoD (Mercury) [Actually its Mool = Ketu so >Ketu is acting more like Mercury). Moon is in own navamsa. > >Studying Status of 5th house, Saturn and Sun are opposing 5th house >and Karak Moon. 6th lord is aspecting Karak moon in Rasi and >Navamsa. > >Studying Status of LoD and LoE. LoE is Venus and is SD to 6th lord. >Situated in Navamsa of Shani. LoD, Mercury is also SD to 6th lord >and in Trik sthan in navamsa and situated with Shani. So Karak, LoD >and LoE are afflicted by Shani the 6th lord. > >In Saptamsa, Karak Moon is in Saptamsa of 6th lord. Mercury, LoD is >in trik sthan. Basic strength of all planets is less for Saptamsa >i.e. < 12 except for Guru 14 and Mercury = 13. Mercury however is in >Trik sthan. > >Currently Moon Mahadasha is running. Moon is Karak for child birth. >However afflicted in Rasi, Navamsa and Saptamsa. > >Interesting.. Mostly all planets are having more points for 5th house >except Mars. Jupiter is aspecting House B and C. Saturn is >aspecting B. Mars is aspecting House A. > >Guru is SD to Venus however its with 12 points. Its antra in Moon MD >has gone which did not give success in child birth. I feel it might >have tried to give more positive results. Jupiter is with Mercury in >Saptamsa, its basic points are more than 12. Its SD to LoE. But it >did not give ???? Yes its aspecting House B and C but it might try >to come forward for Venus ??? > >In any case I see your point, Margarita, that the Karak is afflicted >by 6th lord in Rasi, Navamsa and and also in Saptamsa. > >What also concerns me is that marriage happened in the lowest >significator for the lady. > >Is this permenant.. or case of delayed child birth....???? > >Maybe Krushnaji can guide us here and shed some light so that such >situations become crystal clear. > >Thanking you for making me go back and do a more thorough analysis. > >Cheers !!! >Ash > > > > > , margarita lettens ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Dadhi, > > I looked at both charts. > > In my opinion the female chart does not seem to indicate any major > > problems to have children > > In the male chart I noticed the following > > FK Moon is spoiledby the 6th lord in rashi and navamsa > > 6th lord also aspects house B for the 5th > > The 12th lord from B also aspects the karak Moon > > If you look at the planets that could give results when ruling out >those > > who aspect house A,B or C, 12th lord from B, and those with enough > > points, not so many candidates are left. > > I suppose Venus, whose antar is running now could give results but >she > > is also running Venus antar and Venus is in the 6th house and Mars >is in > > the 4th place from it. I'm not sure how these two will behave in >the matter. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > Dadhi wrote: > > > > >Dear members, > > > > > >I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long >time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at >all? > > > > > > > > >Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > > > > >Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > > > > > > > >For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, >see below. > > > > > >All the best, > > >Dadhi > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > >Male: > > > > > >Lg, Ju - 1th > > >Ke - 2nd > > >Mo - 5th > > >Ve, Me - 7th > > >Sa, Su, Ra - 8th > > >Ma - 9th > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > > > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > > > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > > > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > > > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > > > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > > > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the >summary below > > > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE >Points > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > > > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > > > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > > > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > > > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > > > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > > > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > > > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > > > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > > > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > > > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > > > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Female: > > > > > >Lg- Gemini > > >Ke - 3rd > > >Ju - 5th house > > >Ve - 6th > > >Su, Me - 7th > > >Ma, Ra - 9th > > >Mo - 10th > > >Sa - 11th > > > > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > > > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > > > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > > > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > > > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > > > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > > > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in >the summary below > > > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE >Points > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > > > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > > > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > > > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > > > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > > > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > > > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > > > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > > > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > > > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > > > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > > > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-\ - >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dear Dadhi, Check lagna points in SAV for both charts. Boy has 21 points in lagna and the girl also has less than 28 points. Both seem to have very adjustive nature. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > Dear Margarita, > > Thank you for this explanation. I just want to add that TOB of boy is correct (according to his sources). Couple have good marriage. > > All the best, > Dadhi > > > > 6208 margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> > > Sun Feb 8, 2004 9:15am > > Re: Re: possible to have children ? > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > You rightly pointed out the position of Jupiter in Libra and Venus in > > Jyeshta. But I saw these positions only affecting her relationship, not > > the fact of having children. > > The position of Mars in the 9th house does not indicate being childless > > per se. Mars is also rather neutral having only 4 bindus. > > Pesonally, I see the male chart (if his TOB is right) more problematic > > for having children. For the female 2 charts can work; the 5th and the > > 11th. and both should indicate lack of children in a severe way. > > I just wondered about Venus and Mars. Venus is karak for the 5th and > > Mars karak for the 11th. They have 4:10 relationship both with 4 points; > > how are they going to act ? Is this relationship significant in the > > matter discussed ? > > Best regards > > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hello Ash, Do you remember the chart we did once about a " dumb boy " ? I remeber Krushna saying that if the lords of D and E for a matter also were related to the 6th lord that the native was " devoid " of the results or benefits of that house. Now I just wondered in this case for the childless male if this relationship of LoD and LoE to the 6th lord could also mean being " devoid " of children. Well wait untill the 11th when Krushna comes back, if he find some time to comment on this Best regards Margarita ashsam73 wrote: >Dear Margarita, >I took a closer look at the chart of the Man. > >Karak, Moon is in House E. LoB (Guru) is Samdharmi to LoE (Venus). >Moon is in Nakshatra of LoD (Mercury) [Actually its Mool = Ketu so >Ketu is acting more like Mercury). Moon is in own navamsa. > >Studying Status of 5th house, Saturn and Sun are opposing 5th house >and Karak Moon. 6th lord is aspecting Karak moon in Rasi and >Navamsa. > >Studying Status of LoD and LoE. LoE is Venus and is SD to 6th lord. >Situated in Navamsa of Shani. LoD, Mercury is also SD to 6th lord >and in Trik sthan in navamsa and situated with Shani. So Karak, LoD >and LoE are afflicted by Shani the 6th lord. > >In Saptamsa, Karak Moon is in Saptamsa of 6th lord. Mercury, LoD is >in trik sthan. Basic strength of all planets is less for Saptamsa >i.e. < 12 except for Guru 14 and Mercury = 13. Mercury however is in >Trik sthan. > >Currently Moon Mahadasha is running. Moon is Karak for child birth. >However afflicted in Rasi, Navamsa and Saptamsa. > >Interesting.. Mostly all planets are having more points for 5th house >except Mars. Jupiter is aspecting House B and C. Saturn is >aspecting B. Mars is aspecting House A. > >Guru is SD to Venus however its with 12 points. Its antra in Moon MD >has gone which did not give success in child birth. I feel it might >have tried to give more positive results. Jupiter is with Mercury in >Saptamsa, its basic points are more than 12. Its SD to LoE. But it >did not give ???? Yes its aspecting House B and C but it might try >to come forward for Venus ??? > >In any case I see your point, Margarita, that the Karak is afflicted >by 6th lord in Rasi, Navamsa and and also in Saptamsa. > >What also concerns me is that marriage happened in the lowest >significator for the lady. > >Is this permenant.. or case of delayed child birth....???? > >Maybe Krushnaji can guide us here and shed some light so that such >situations become crystal clear. > >Thanking you for making me go back and do a more thorough analysis. > >Cheers !!! >Ash > > > > > , margarita lettens ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Dadhi, > > I looked at both charts. > > In my opinion the female chart does not seem to indicate any major > > problems to have children > > In the male chart I noticed the following > > FK Moon is spoiledby the 6th lord in rashi and navamsa > > 6th lord also aspects house B for the 5th > > The 12th lord from B also aspects the karak Moon > > If you look at the planets that could give results when ruling out >those > > who aspect house A,B or C, 12th lord from B, and those with enough > > points, not so many candidates are left. > > I suppose Venus, whose antar is running now could give results but >she > > is also running Venus antar and Venus is in the 6th house and Mars >is in > > the 4th place from it. I'm not sure how these two will behave in >the matter. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > Dadhi wrote: > > > > >Dear members, > > > > > >I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long >time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at >all? > > > > > > > > >Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > > > > >Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > > > > > > > >For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, >see below. > > > > > >All the best, > > >Dadhi > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > >Male: > > > > > >Lg, Ju - 1th > > >Ke - 2nd > > >Mo - 5th > > >Ve, Me - 7th > > >Sa, Su, Ra - 8th > > >Ma - 9th > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > > > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > > > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > > > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > > > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > > > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > > > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the >summary below > > > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE >Points > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > > > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > > > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > > > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > > > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > > > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > > > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > > > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > > > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > > > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > > > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > > > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Female: > > > > > >Lg- Gemini > > >Ke - 3rd > > >Ju - 5th house > > >Ve - 6th > > >Su, Me - 7th > > >Ma, Ra - 9th > > >Mo - 10th > > >Sa - 11th > > > > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > > > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > > > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > > > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > > > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > > > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > > > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in >the summary below > > > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE >Points > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > > > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > > > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > > > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > > > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > > > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > > > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > > > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > > > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > > > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > > > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > > > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-\ - >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dear Margarita, Yes, it does strike a bell. If memory serves me correctly, Krushnaji had said that that case was for delayed speaking (I hope we are talking of same mail) as the delay causing planet Shani was LoD or LoE so it was a case of delayed speaking but not permenant. Here to add to what you have said and I thought about it, that you are right, the Karak Moon first and formost even before going to LoD or LoE is afflicted with 4 influences (afflictions) of 6th lord shani. 1st is Shanis aspect in Rasi, 2nd one is Shanis aspect in Navamsa. 3rd influence is that Shani OPPOSES Karak Moon and if need be to go to saptamsa we see that again Moon is influenced by Shani in Saptamsa so that makes it 4th influence of 6th lord. If LoA is afflicted badly then its quantum is pretty much gone so indirectly LoD and LoE also weaken. Yes, It will be good for Krushnaji to comment on this. I also wonder if I was using Saptamsa correctly as per this system. It will be good if Krushnaji finds time to comment on this chart. We all can learn something... Cheers !!! Ash , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello Ash, > Do you remember the chart we did once about a " dumb boy " ? I remeber > Krushna saying that if the lords of D and E for a matter also were > related to the 6th lord that the native was " devoid " of the results or > benefits of that house. > Now I just wondered in this case for the childless male if this > relationship of LoD and LoE to the 6th lord could also mean being > " devoid " of children. > Well wait untill the 11th when Krushna comes back, if he find some time > to comment on this > Best regards > Margarita > > ashsam73 wrote: > > >Dear Margarita, > >I took a closer look at the chart of the Man. > > > >Karak, Moon is in House E. LoB (Guru) is Samdharmi to LoE (Venus). > >Moon is in Nakshatra of LoD (Mercury) [Actually its Mool = Ketu so > >Ketu is acting more like Mercury). Moon is in own navamsa. > > > >Studying Status of 5th house, Saturn and Sun are opposing 5th house > >and Karak Moon. 6th lord is aspecting Karak moon in Rasi and > >Navamsa. > > > >Studying Status of LoD and LoE. LoE is Venus and is SD to 6th lord. > >Situated in Navamsa of Shani. LoD, Mercury is also SD to 6th lord > >and in Trik sthan in navamsa and situated with Shani. So Karak, LoD > >and LoE are afflicted by Shani the 6th lord. > > > >In Saptamsa, Karak Moon is in Saptamsa of 6th lord. Mercury, LoD is > >in trik sthan. Basic strength of all planets is less for Saptamsa > >i.e. < 12 except for Guru 14 and Mercury = 13. Mercury however is in > >Trik sthan. > > > >Currently Moon Mahadasha is running. Moon is Karak for child birth. > >However afflicted in Rasi, Navamsa and Saptamsa. > > > >Interesting.. Mostly all planets are having more points for 5th house > >except Mars. Jupiter is aspecting House B and C. Saturn is > >aspecting B. Mars is aspecting House A. > > > >Guru is SD to Venus however its with 12 points. Its antra in Moon MD > >has gone which did not give success in child birth. I feel it might > >have tried to give more positive results. Jupiter is with Mercury in > >Saptamsa, its basic points are more than 12. Its SD to LoE. But it > >did not give ???? Yes its aspecting House B and C but it might try > >to come forward for Venus ??? > > > >In any case I see your point, Margarita, that the Karak is afflicted > >by 6th lord in Rasi, Navamsa and and also in Saptamsa. > > > >What also concerns me is that marriage happened in the lowest > >significator for the lady. > > > >Is this permenant.. or case of delayed child birth....???? > > > >Maybe Krushnaji can guide us here and shed some light so that such > >situations become crystal clear. > > > >Thanking you for making me go back and do a more thorough analysis. > > > >Cheers !!! > >Ash > > > > > > > > > > , margarita lettens > ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello Dadhi, > > > I looked at both charts. > > > In my opinion the female chart does not seem to indicate any major > > > problems to have children > > > In the male chart I noticed the following > > > FK Moon is spoiledby the 6th lord in rashi and navamsa > > > 6th lord also aspects house B for the 5th > > > The 12th lord from B also aspects the karak Moon > > > If you look at the planets that could give results when ruling out > >those > > > who aspect house A,B or C, 12th lord from B, and those with enough > > > points, not so many candidates are left. > > > I suppose Venus, whose antar is running now could give results but > >she > > > is also running Venus antar and Venus is in the 6th house and Mars > >is in > > > the 4th place from it. I'm not sure how these two will behave in > >the matter. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > Dadhi wrote: > > > > > > >Dear members, > > > > > > > >I have charts of a couple who can not have children for a long > >time ? What do you think, is it possible for them to have children at > >all? > > > > > > > > > > > >Male: 21.March 1968. / 15:44 / 18 E 41 45 N 33 / > > > > > > > >Female: 16 December 1969 / 18:02:50 / 16 E 00 45 N 50 > > > > > > > > > > > >For those who do not have a lot of time to calculate everything, > >see below. > > > > > > > >All the best, > > > >Dadhi > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > > > > >Male: > > > > > > > >Lg, Ju - 1th > > > >Ke - 2nd > > > >Mo - 5th > > > >Ve, Me - 7th > > > >Sa, Su, Ra - 8th > > > >Ma - 9th > > > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > > Sun 8 1 3 6 5 5 7 2 2 5 3 5 4 48 > > > > Moon 5 6 4 4 3 5 4 4 1 2 8 6 2 49 > > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 2 4 6 2 1 2 5 4 5 39 > > > > Mercury 7 2 4 5 5 4 7 4 5 4 4 5 5 54 > > > > Jupiter 1 4 3 6 6 4 4 5 4 4 6 6 4 56 > > > > Venus 7 3 3 6 4 7 3 4 5 5 3 6 3 52 > > > > Saturn 8 3 3 4 2 4 7 2 2 1 3 4 4 39 > > > > Totals 21 22 35 27 33 38 23 20 23 32 36 27 337 > > > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in the > >summary below > > > > Bindus> 2 5 2 4 4 4 2 DBCE > >Points > > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > > 21 8 18 7 11 12 20 20 Mo Ju Ma Ve Sa 32 21 33 38 > > > > 22 15 16 10 20 11 11 22 Su Ma Ju Me Sa 36 22 38 23 > > > > 35 11 27 17 13 22 13 15 Me Ve Sa Mo Ju 27 35 23 20 > > > > 27 17 11 18 15 16 15 8 Ve Me Sa Su Ma 21 27 20 23 > > > > 33 14 15 11 18 12 20 15 Ma Mo Ju Me Ve 22 33 23 32 > > > > 38 11 24 13 18 14 14 19 Ju Su Ma Ve Me 35 38 32 36 > > > > 23 16 19 13 13 14 13 9 Sa Me Ve Ma Mo 27 23 36 27 > > > > 20 17 12 22 15 19 14 10 Sa Ve Me Ju Su 33 20 27 21 > > > > 23 11 17 12 16 14 12 11 Ju Ma Mo Sa Me 38 23 21 22 > > > > 32 17 23 11 12 13 18 33 Ma Ju Su Sa Ve 23 32 22 35 > > > > 36 18 15 25 17 21 15 15 Ve Sa Me Ju Ma 20 36 35 27 > > > > 27 11 20 26 14 20 11 8 Me Sa Ve Ma Ju 23 27 27 33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Female: > > > > > > > >Lg- Gemini > > > >Ke - 3rd > > > >Ju - 5th house > > > >Ve - 6th > > > >Su, Me - 7th > > > >Ma, Ra - 9th > > > >Mo - 10th > > > >Sa - 11th > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvashtakavarga Points > > > > House 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > > > > Sun 7 2 2 6 4 5 4 4 3 4 4 4 6 48 > > > > Moon 10 4 5 5 6 4 2 3 3 4 5 4 4 49 > > > > Mars 9 2 2 4 4 4 3 2 2 4 3 5 4 39 > > > > Mercury 7 3 3 5 5 5 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 54 > > > > Jupiter 5 3 5 6 7 4 4 6 4 3 6 5 3 56 > > > > Venus 6 6 7 5 2 5 4 3 5 6 2 4 3 52 > > > > Saturn 11 4 3 5 6 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2 39 > > > > Totals 24 27 36 34 30 26 25 24 27 27 30 27 337 > > > > > > > > Me <- Enter the subperiod lord here to highlight this in > >the summary below > > > > Bindus> 4 5 4 5 4 4 3 DBCE > >Points > > > > SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa L12 FK NK D E D B C E > > > > 1 24 10 16 13 7 21 16 25 Ve Sa Ma Ju Ma 27 24 30 26 > > > > 2 27 10 11 14 13 22 17 8 Me Sa Ju Ma Ju 30 27 26 25 > > > > 3 36 14 13 9 14 23 15 15 Mo Ju Sa Ve Sa 27 36 25 24 > > > > 4 34 11 8 11 19 21 11 22 Su Ma Sa Me Sa 24 34 24 27 > > > > 5 30 15 22 12 14 20 14 12 Me Ve Ju Mo Ju 27 30 27 27 > > > > 6 26 26 11 13 8 18 12 15 Ve Me Ma Su Ma 36 26 27 30 > > > > 7 25 10 12 9 18 21 19 8 Ma Mo Ve Me Ve 34 25 30 27 > > > > 8 24 15 12 10 19 18 18 15 Ju Su Me Ve Me 30 24 27 24 > > > > 9 27 10 19 15 7 13 14 12 Sa Me Mo Ma Mo 26 27 24 27 > > > > 10 27 30 14 9 17 20 14 9 Sa Ve Su Ju Su 25 27 27 36 > > > > 11 30 14 11 12 21 20 13 16 Ju Ma Me Sa Me 24 30 36 34 > > > > 12 27 14 8 10 15 21 13 15 Ma Ju Ve Sa Ve 27 27 34 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- ------------- > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dear Margarita, Yes I remember clearly. Krushnaji had said, If House A or LoA and LoD and LoE are afflicted then person is devoid of the results indicated by House B. Here House A or LoA was also included. Thanks for highlighting this important point. Cheers !!! Ash > , margarita lettens > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > Do you remember the chart we did once about a " dumb boy " ? I > remeber > > Krushna saying that if the lords of D and E for a matter also were > > related to the 6th lord that the native was " devoid " of the results > or > > benefits of that house. > > Now I just wondered in this case for the childless male if this > > relationship of LoD and LoE to the 6th lord could also mean being > > " devoid " of children. > > Well wait untill the 11th when Krushna comes back, if he find some > time > > to comment on this > > Best regards > > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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