Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Ash, Margarita, In lesson 23, a statement says that Jupiter and 7th lord if in trine with more points is unfavourable. Does it mean trine with respect to each other or with respect to lagna? Thanks & Regards, Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu, Its given in Lesson 23 that more chances of love marriages if Guru and 7th lords are in trines with more points. I could not find in the statement that it was unfavourable. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita, > > In lesson 23, a statement says that Jupiter and 7th lord if in trine > with more points is unfavourable. > > Does it mean trine with respect to each other or with respect to > lagna? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Ash, About the Jupiter in trine - applies to Rasi only - or also to Navamsa? By more points, you mean more Bindus? Thanks - Sat. ======== - "ashsam73" <ashsam73 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:15 PM Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. : Dear Manu, : Its given in Lesson 23 that more chances of love marriages if Guru and 7th lords are in trines with more points. I could not find in the statement that it was unfavourable. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Oops, sorry Ash. Disregard the unfavourable part. I just want to know if the relation should be with respect to each other or with respect to lagna. Thanks & Regards, manu , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > About the Jupiter in trine - applies to Rasi only - or also to Navamsa? > > By more points, you mean more Bindus? > > Thanks - Sat. > > ======== > > - > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:15 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > : Dear Manu, > > : Its given in Lesson 23 that more chances of love marriages if Guru and 7th lords are in trines with more points. I could not find in the statement that it was unfavourable. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, I so I would assume that this comination is to be seen in Rasi as we are seeing their bindus. However I am not sure. As per the basics Rasi and navamsa have equal status. Here since we are seeing binuds I would stick to Rashi. Yes you are right more points means more bindus i.e. < 4 bindus. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > About the Jupiter in trine - applies to Rasi only - or also to Navamsa? > > By more points, you mean more Bindus? > > Thanks - Sat. > > ======== > > - > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:15 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > : Dear Manu, > > : Its given in Lesson 23 that more chances of love marriages if Guru and 7th lords are in trines with more points. I could not find in the statement that it was unfavourable. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh and Manu, In trines to each other meaning they are in 5:9 i.e. Jupiter and 7th lord. It need not be with respect to lagna. It means that its making nav pancham yog. Cheers !!! Ash , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Manu, > > Ash can confirm, but I believe it is with respect to Lagna. > > Sateesh. > > ======== > > - > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:41 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > : Oops, sorry Ash. > : > : Disregard the unfavourable part. I just want to know if the relation > : should be with respect to each other or with respect to lagna. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Ash, Thanks :-) For Virgo and Gemini natives, therefore only one of the below can be applied (trine from Lagna), since Jupiter IS the 7th Lord,I guess :-) . Cheers - Sat. ======== - "ashsam73" <ashsam73 Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:56 PM Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. : Dear Sateesh and Manu, : In trines to each other meaning they are in 5:9 i.e. Jupiter and 7th lord. It need not be with respect to lagna. It means that its making nav pancham yog. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is the 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is mutual placement that should be 5:9. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks :-) > > For Virgo and Gemini natives, therefore only one of the below can be applied (trine from Lagna), since Jupiter IS the 7th Lord,I guess :-) . > > Cheers - Sat. > > ======== > > - > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:56 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > : Dear Sateesh and Manu, > > : In trines to each other meaning they are in 5:9 i.e. Jupiter and 7th lord. It need not be with respect to lagna. It means that its making nav pancham yog. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu, I have 7th Lord Jupiter in a trine (5th house) for Virgo lagna. According to Peter Sutcliffe's analysis of my chart a while back, this combination can give Love marriage, as my Jupiter has 7 bindus. (My navamsa also has Virgo rising, and Jupiter in a trine (9th)! I think Ash was saying it is not confined JUST to trines from Lagna, but between Jupiter and 7th Lord also. So it can be from Lagna too. Sateesh. ======== - "Manu Batura" <manubatura Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:05 PM Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. : Dear Sateesh,: : For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is the 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is : mutual placement that should be 5:9. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, Ash, I think we need Ash to comment on this. I guess I am still a little confused. Also Sateesh, can you please let me know the msg number related to the analysis made by Peter. I could not see any other indications of love marriage in your chart (as per lesson 23) besides Ju in 5th as you have indicated. Are you married? Was it a love marriage? Regards, Manu , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Manu, > > I have 7th Lord Jupiter in a trine (5th house) for Virgo lagna. > > According to Peter Sutcliffe's analysis of my chart a while back, this combination can give Love marriage, as my Jupiter has 7 bindus. > > (My navamsa also has Virgo rising, and Jupiter in a trine (9th)! > > I think Ash was saying it is not confined JUST to trines from Lagna, but between Jupiter and 7th Lord also. So it can be from Lagna too. > > Sateesh. > > ======== > > - > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:05 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > : Dear Sateesh, > : > : For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is the 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is > : mutual placement that should be 5:9. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Satish, Ash, There is another bottleneck. You have been brought up in England I presume and lesson 23 is related to Indian cultural background. Regards, Manu , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Sateesh, Ash, > > I think we need Ash to comment on this. I guess I am still a little > confused. > > Also Sateesh, can you please let me know the msg number related to > the analysis made by Peter. I could not see any other indications of > love marriage in your chart (as per lesson 23) besides Ju in 5th as > you have indicated. > > Are you married? Was it a love marriage? > > Regards, > Manu > > > , " Sateesh Batas " > <makara@n...> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > > > I have 7th Lord Jupiter in a trine (5th house) for Virgo lagna. > > > > According to Peter Sutcliffe's analysis of my chart a while back, > this combination can give Love marriage, as my Jupiter has 7 bindus. > > > > (My navamsa also has Virgo rising, and Jupiter in a trine (9th)! > > > > I think Ash was saying it is not confined JUST to trines from > Lagna, but between Jupiter and 7th Lord also. So it can be from > Lagna too. > > > > Sateesh. > > > > ======== > > > > - > > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:05 PM > > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > > > > : Dear Sateesh, > > : > > : For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is the > 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is > > : mutual placement that should be 5:9. > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu and Sateesh, The law is to check GURU WITH 7TH LORD and to see if they make a 5:9 relation i.e. in short trines. The relation is between Guru and 7th lord ONLY and not lagna. For Gemini and Virgo, Guru is 7th lord as Manu has keenly observed. Here you check relation between Jupiter and Venus and Jupiter and Saturn respectively. Here think on it and u will get the answer. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Sateesh, Ash, > > I think we need Ash to comment on this. I guess I am still a little > confused. > > Also Sateesh, can you please let me know the msg number related to > the analysis made by Peter. I could not see any other indications of > love marriage in your chart (as per lesson 23) besides Ju in 5th as > you have indicated. > > Are you married? Was it a love marriage? > > Regards, > Manu > > > , " Sateesh Batas " > <makara@n...> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > > > I have 7th Lord Jupiter in a trine (5th house) for Virgo lagna. > > > > According to Peter Sutcliffe's analysis of my chart a while back, > this combination can give Love marriage, as my Jupiter has 7 bindus. > > > > (My navamsa also has Virgo rising, and Jupiter in a trine (9th)! > > > > I think Ash was saying it is not confined JUST to trines from > Lagna, but between Jupiter and 7th Lord also. So it can be from > Lagna too. > > > > Sateesh. > > > > ======== > > > > - > > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:05 PM > > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > > > > : Dear Sateesh, > > : > > : For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is the > 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is > > : mutual placement that should be 5:9. > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Ash, So that means that when Ju is lord of 7th, we take Ju and lord of 5th from lagna relationship. Lord of 5th might represent friend. So, we consider the relationship between friend and self. Is that correct Ash? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu and Sateesh, > The law is to check GURU WITH 7TH LORD and to see if they make a 5:9 > relation i.e. in short trines. The relation is between Guru and 7th > lord ONLY and not lagna. > For Gemini and Virgo, Guru is 7th lord as Manu has keenly observed. > Here you check relation between Jupiter and Venus and Jupiter and > Saturn respectively. Here think on it and u will get the answer. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Sateesh, Ash, > > > > I think we need Ash to comment on this. I guess I am still a little > > confused. > > > > Also Sateesh, can you please let me know the msg number related to > > the analysis made by Peter. I could not see any other indications > of > > love marriage in your chart (as per lesson 23) besides Ju in 5th as > > you have indicated. > > > > Are you married? Was it a love marriage? > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > , " Sateesh Batas " > > <makara@n...> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > I have 7th Lord Jupiter in a trine (5th house) for Virgo lagna. > > > > > > According to Peter Sutcliffe's analysis of my chart a while back, > > this combination can give Love marriage, as my Jupiter has 7 bindus. > > > > > > (My navamsa also has Virgo rising, and Jupiter in a trine (9th)! > > > > > > I think Ash was saying it is not confined JUST to trines from > > Lagna, but between Jupiter and 7th Lord also. So it can be from > > Lagna too. > > > > > > Sateesh. > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > - > > > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > > > > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:05 PM > > > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > > > > > > > : Dear Sateesh, > > > : > > > : For Virgo and Gemini, I think neither can apply, since Ju is > the > > 7th lord. Ash indicated that it is not with respect to lagna. It is > > > : mutual placement that should be 5:9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release Date: 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Kaimal, Yes. Very good. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > Is it because Venus and Saturn are the 5th Lords for Gemini and Virgo respectively? > Regards > Kaimal > - > ashsam73 > > Monday, February 16, 2004 2:10 AM > *SPAM ALERT* Re: Lesson 23: Doubt. > > > Dear Manu and Sateesh, > The law is to check GURU WITH 7TH LORD and to see if they make a 5:9 > relation i.e. in short trines. The relation is between Guru and 7th > lord ONLY and not lagna. > For Gemini and Virgo, Guru is 7th lord as Manu has keenly observed. > Here you check relation between Jupiter and Venus and Jupiter and > Saturn respectively. Here think on it and u will get the answer. > Cheers !!! > Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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