Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu, I can't recall the message # on the thread, but I do have the seven or so mails from Peter, Margarita and Krushna on the subject. I can fwd these to you on/off list - however, if you want to search them in the list archives, simply search for - 020108 I am raised in England as you surmised, and I am not married. Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - "sateeshbatas" <makara <makara Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:51 PM Fwd: Marriage chart 020108 : , "Peter" <petermay@p...> wrote:: Respected Krushna,: Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart : just to: show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not : very: good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably: incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going : wrong.: As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would : first look: at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from : lesson: 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just : enough: to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a : very happy: marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord : are in a: trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is : alsao in a: trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator : Jupiter: is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules : which are: present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love : match): but only just positive.: Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic,: particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa : would: tend to delay the marriage.: Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the : strongest: significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the : 7th: while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of : its: samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client : will: marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. : Venus is: malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be : keen to: act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close : to: Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. : I am not: sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter : iself.: Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of "D" and would : therefore: be keen to signify the timing of the event.: The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at : about age 19: but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to : 2008 and: then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 : years of age: which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006-2008 : period.: To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the : probable: date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 : highest: point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th.: So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - : 13th in: 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007.: One further point is that during the checking of the points in : Lesson 10 I: noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did : not look: at the possibilites of divorce.: : Yours respectfully,: : Peter: --- End forwarded message ---: : : ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Sorry - I meant to say - Peter's first message is below! ======== - Sateesh Batas Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:46 PM Re: Re: Lesson 23: Doubt Dear Manu, I can't recall the message # on the thread, but I do have the seven or so mails from Peter, Margarita and Krushna on the subject. I can fwd these to you on/off list - however, if you want to search them in the list archives, simply search for - 020108 I am raised in England as you surmised, and I am not married. Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - "sateeshbatas" <makara <makara Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:51 PM Fwd: Marriage chart 020108 : , "Peter" <petermay@p...> wrote:: Respected Krushna,: Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart : just to: show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not : very: good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably: incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going : wrong.: As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would : first look: at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from : lesson: 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just : enough: to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a : very happy: marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord : are in a: trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is : alsao in a: trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator : Jupiter: is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules : which are: present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love : match): but only just positive.: Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic,: particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa : would: tend to delay the marriage.: Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the : strongest: significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the : 7th: while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of : its: samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client : will: marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. : Venus is: malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be : keen to: act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close : to: Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. : I am not: sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter : iself.: Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of "D" and would : therefore: be keen to signify the timing of the event.: The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at : about age 19: but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to : 2008 and: then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 : years of age: which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006-2008 : period.: To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the : probable: date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 : highest: point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th.: So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - : 13th in: 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007.: One further point is that during the checking of the points in : Lesson 10 I: noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did : not look: at the possibilites of divorce.: : Yours respectfully,: : Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, In your chart, I could not understand how is Jupiter samdharmi to Saturn as indicated by Peter? Planet A in sign of Planet B (does it make A samdharmi to B?). I thought this applies only to navamsa placements. Also, I am providing the degrees. Can you kindly verify. asc vir 28°55' su(2) ari 03°10' mo(5) vir 12°08' ju(7) cap 16°35' me(3) pis 06°09' ve(3) ari 04°42' ma(4) cap 21°39' sa(3) tau 24°24' ra sag 19°13' ke gem 19°13' Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Sorry - I meant to say - Peter's first message is below! > > ======== > > - > Sateesh Batas > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:46 PM > Re: Re: Lesson 23: Doubt > > > Dear Manu, > > I can't recall the message # on the thread, but I do have the seven or so mails from Peter, Margarita and Krushna on the subject. > > I can fwd these to you on/off list - however, if you want to search them in the list archives, simply search for - > > > 020108 > > > I am raised in England as you surmised, and I am not married. > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > ======== > > - > " sateeshbatas " <makara@n...> > <makara@n...> > Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:51 PM > Fwd: Marriage chart 020108 > > > : , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > : Respected Krushna, > : Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart > : just to > : show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not > : very > : good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably > : incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going > : wrong. > : As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would > : first look > : at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from > : lesson > : 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just > : enough > : to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a > : very happy > : marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord > : are in a > : trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is > : alsao in a > : trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator > : Jupiter > : is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules > : which are > : present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love > : match) > : but only just positive. > : Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic, > : particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa > : would > : tend to delay the marriage. > : Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the > : strongest > : significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the > : 7th > : while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of > : its > : samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client > : will > : marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. > : Venus is > : malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be > : keen to > : act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close > : to > : Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. > : I am not > : sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter > : iself. > : Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of " D " and would > : therefore > : be keen to signify the timing of the event. > : The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at > : about age 19 > : but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to > : 2008 and > : then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 > : years of age > : which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006- 2008 > : period. > : To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the > : probable > : date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 > : highest > : point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th. > : So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - > : 13th in > : 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007. > : One further point is that during the checking of the points in > : Lesson 10 I > : noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did > : not look > : at the possibilites of divorce. > : > : Yours respectfully, > : > : Peter > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, I will be very grateful if you could forward me the mssgs related to your chart. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Manu, > > I can't recall the message # on the thread, but I do have the seven or so mails from Peter, Margarita and Krushna on the subject. > > I can fwd these to you on/off list - however, if you want to search them in the list archives, simply search for - > > > 020108 > > > I am raised in England as you surmised, and I am not married. > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > ======== > > - > " sateeshbatas " <makara@n...> > <makara@n...> > Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:51 PM > Fwd: Marriage chart 020108 > > > : , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > : Respected Krushna, > : Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart > : just to > : show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not > : very > : good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably > : incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going > : wrong. > : As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would > : first look > : at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from > : lesson > : 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just > : enough > : to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a > : very happy > : marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord > : are in a > : trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is > : alsao in a > : trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator > : Jupiter > : is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules > : which are > : present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love > : match) > : but only just positive. > : Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic, > : particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa > : would > : tend to delay the marriage. > : Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the > : strongest > : significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the > : 7th > : while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of > : its > : samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client > : will > : marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. > : Venus is > : malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be > : keen to > : act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close > : to > : Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. > : I am not > : sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter > : iself. > : Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of " D " and would > : therefore > : be keen to signify the timing of the event. > : The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at > : about age 19 > : but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to > : 2008 and > : then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 > : years of age > : which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006- 2008 > : period. > : To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the > : probable > : date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 > : highest > : point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th. > : So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - > : 13th in > : 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007. > : One further point is that during the checking of the points in > : Lesson 10 I > : noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did > : not look > : at the possibilites of divorce. > : > : Yours respectfully, > : > : Peter > : --- End forwarded message --- > : > : > : > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu, Please see CAPS. - "Manu Batura" <manubatura Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:20 PM Re: Lesson 23: Doubt Dear Sateesh,In your chart, I could not understand how is Jupiter samdharmi to Saturn as indicated by Peter? Planet A in sign of Planet B (does it make A samdharmi to B?). I thought this applies only to navamsa placements. I THINK IT ALSO APPLIES TO RASI. Also, I am providing the degrees. Can you kindly verify. THEY ARE ALL CORRECT. Cheers - Sat. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Manu, Sure - I will fwd them off-list to your account. Cheers - Sat. - "Manu Batura" <manubatura Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:23 PM Re: Lesson 23: Doubt : Dear Sateesh,: : I will be very grateful if you could forward me the mssgs related to : your chart. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Dear Sateesh, No that is not correct. Planets do not become Samdharmi to the sign lord that they are placed in Rasi. This is applicable only to Navamsa. In your chart Guru is in sign of Shani in Rasi and in Navamsa it is placed with Venus in sign of Taurus. In Rasi it is conjoined with Mars. Here Guru is Samdhamri to Mars and Venus. Guru and Shani are in 5:9 however they are not in exact trines. So they do not come together in 1 navamsa and hence they do not become Samdharmi. Shani is in Murug nakshatra and Jupiter is in Sharavan ruled by Moon. Had they been in exact trines then they would come together in navamsa and become samdharmi. In any case, Shani is your 6th lord. Cheers !!! Ash , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Manu, > > Please see CAPS. > > > - > " Manu Batura " <manubatura> > > Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:20 PM > Re: Lesson 23: Doubt > > > Dear Sateesh, > > In your chart, I could not understand how is Jupiter samdharmi to Saturn as indicated by Peter? Planet A in sign of Planet B (does it make A samdharmi to B?). I thought this applies only to navamsa placements. > > I THINK IT ALSO APPLIES TO RASI. > > Also, I am providing the degrees. Can you kindly verify. > > THEY ARE ALL CORRECT. > > Cheers - Sat. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release 13/02/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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