Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Dear Ash - Some good points to bring out as I was putting the focus on the wrong house. I'm obviously still rusty at this. . .For example: a) While looking at the father's death, I put the B focus house on the 9th since we were focusing on the father. Then after reading how you analyzed this, I realized that we're supposed to put the focus on the EVENT of the person in question, not the person him/herself. Therefore, since we're talking about the possiblity of the " death " of the father, it would then place the B focus on the 8th house from the 9th which represents the father's death and NOT put the B focus on the 9th itself. b) I also too confused myself once again (it happens often) when thinking of the focus of the grandmother's house placement since I forgot the reasoning behind making the 3rd house as the significator for the mother. I was placing her as the 4th house ( as he also indicates in lesson 4) from the father's 9th and coming up with the wrong house. Could you please refresh my memory on this as I can't find the discussion that we had a while back in regards to the 3rd versus the 4th house for the significator of the mother? c) Another confusion . . . Krushna talks about the 3rd house from any house matter, signifying the end or death of that matter. Ex: The fifth house represents children. Therefore the 3rd from the 5th indicates the death of a child. The 8th house also is a significator for the ending or death of a matter, so do both have significance or does the 8th always have priority? Or does it depend on which house is linked to the main and sub period lords? Sorry for the silly questions, but I'm trying to get back in gear again and some of this stuff is still fuzzy. Thanks and congratulations on the correct answer! ) Donna > Thank you Ash for your impressive performance and the very helpful > explanations. Before the answer came through, I was about to put in > my (wrong) suggestion of uncle's or aunt's death, based on Ju AD > lord triggering 6 (as Ld of 11) (6 being siblings of either parent, > as well as particularly of mother), and the MD Lord Sa being natural > SD to Ve which is in same house as Ju and thus SD to latter which is > Ld of 3rd from 6... but I'll spare you further details, I've still > got a lot of work to do! > What I would like to know is, is there a way to distinguish between > brothers and sisters and therefore also uncles/aunts? I notice that > Ash had thought of the possibility of the death being of the > father's brother or of that brother's wife (7th from brother). But > what if it had been the father's sister? Is there any way to see > this from the houses or otherwise? > Many thanks to Ash, and to Dadhi for providing this useful example. > Graham > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Yes, good observation. If you read Dadhis quesiton hes asked about > > > > 1) Father (4th as B, considering 9th as Father.) > > 2) Grandfather (12th as B, considering 9th for father and 9th from > > there in as father's father so 5th house) > > 3) Grand mother (9th is father, 11th i.e. 3rd from therein is > Fathers > > mother and 8th from there is 6th house which is Karak for death of > > fathers mother). > > 4) Uncle (Fathers brother.. same as point 3) > > 5) Aunt (11th is fathers younger brother, 7th from there is uncles > > wife, and 8th from there in is 12th for death). > > > > So house 3 and 2 though are triggered I did not consider as they > were > > not karaks for the questions asked. > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > One doubt! hs2 and hs3 are also triggered. Why did we filter > those > > > houses? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Dadhi, > > > > I was thinking further on this note. > > > > I checked that 11th house matters were triggering. So it can > > also > > > be > > > > Fathers Younger brother (you just said Uncle which can be > younger > > > > brother too) or Mother. > > > > So in short I wanted to point out that persons representing by > > 11th > > > > house might have expired. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Dadhi, > > > > > I havent worked a lot with the topic of death. For that we > > still > > > > > have to receive a detailed lesson. However I will like to > make > > > an > > > > > attempt. > > > > > > > > > > I casted your chart and I think on Feb 19th 2004 your > > Grandmother > > > > > (fathers mother) might have died. > > > > > > > > > > Father's mother u see from 11th house. (3rd from 9th). 8th > > from > > > > > therein is 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > MD/AD running is Sa/Ju. Natural death happens in MD of 3rd > > lord > > > or > > > > > its SD. Here Venus is 3rd lord from 11th. Sa is SD to > Venus > > so > > > Sa > > > > > can give results for Venus since Venus is aspecting house C > > i.e. > > > > 10th > > > > > house keeping 6th as B. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is strongest significator for 6th house with 21 > > points. > > > > > Jupiter has less points for health i.e. 6th from 11th house > > i.e. > > > > > Fathers, mothers health. Also 3rd points are low i.e. 3rd > from > > > > 11th > > > > > i.e. lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Shani is not causing delay so event should happen in 1st > sector > > > > > itself so Feb 19th 2004 falls in 1st sector. > > > > > > > > > > Suns Transits on 19th feb was on sign / nakshatra of Mars > and > > > > > Saturn. Mars has 19 points and Saturn has 16 for 6th house > so > > it > > > > can > > > > > trigger the event of death. > > > > > > > > > > Will look forward to your answer. > > > > > In any case thanks for the puzzle and please accept my > > > condolonces. > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Dadhi " > > > > <denis@d...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Would anyone try to make excersise using only KAS, and try > to > > > > find > > > > > out from my chart, who died in my family on 19th of > February ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can help you little bit: it is not from mother side of > > > family. > > > > So > > > > > answer is: > > > > > > > > > > > > a. father > > > > > > b. uncle > > > > > > c. aunt > > > > > > d. grandfather > > > > > > e. grandmother > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > > > My data is: 24.October.1967. / 19:03 / 17E00, 43N45 / +1. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Dear Donna, I shall answer your questions in the sequence you asked. 1) You picked up correctly. We are studying Fathers Mother. So step 1 is 9th house. Once we get fathers then consider that as lagna. So 3rd from 9th is mother. Now 11th house consider that as lagna. So then death will be from 6th house as B. The points remain same only thing as you correctly pointed out we go by Event. From the event we pick the house. 2) I had posted the link this afternoon in my previous mail to you and Graham. 3) Lets take example of natural death. So 8th house is B. So now Karak for 8th i.e. death is 3rd house. So Death happens in Mahadasha of 3rd lord. MD shows karaktwa. So that is the reason that for natural death 3rd lord or its SD or planets in 3rd house with more than 4 bindus can natural death happen. This is for MD. For AD its lagna or 5th lord or planets in these house > 4 bindus are more eager to give results. We also go by WS and see planets giving highest points to 8th house. Now if its for children, the 5th is B. So for death its 12th house. Now make 12th house as B as you are studying death of Child. So A = 7th house. So Karak for death is 7th house which is 3rd from 5th. So Krushnaji directly tells, Natural death generally happens in 3rd lords or its SD's Mahadasha. These are not silly questions. Actually your program is very good to think in terms of A,B,C,D and E. You always start with A and then event is B followed by rest. I hope its clear. Cheers !!! Ash , Donna Quinn <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > Dear Ash - > > Some good points to bring out as I was putting the focus on the wrong > house. I'm obviously still rusty at this. . .For example: > > a) While looking at the father's death, I put the B focus house on the 9th > since we were focusing on the father. Then after reading how you analyzed > this, I realized that we're > supposed to put the focus on the EVENT of the person in question, not the > person > him/herself. Therefore, since we're talking about the possiblity of the > " death " of the > father, it would then place the B focus on the 8th house from the 9th which > represents > the father's death and NOT put the B focus on the 9th itself. > > b) I also too confused myself once again (it happens often) when thinking of > the focus > of the grandmother's house placement since I forgot the reasoning behind > making the > 3rd house as the significator for the mother. I was placing her as the 4th > house ( as he also indicates in lesson 4) from the father's 9th and coming > up with the wrong house. Could you please refresh my memory on this as I > can't find the discussion that we had a while back in regards to the 3rd > versus the 4th house for the significator of the mother? > > c) Another confusion . . . Krushna talks about the 3rd house from any house > matter, signifying the end or death of that matter. Ex: The fifth house > represents children. Therefore the 3rd from the 5th indicates the death of a > child. The 8th house also is a significator for > the ending or death of a matter, so do both have significance or does the > 8th always have > priority? Or does it depend on which house is linked to the main and sub > period lords? > > Sorry for the silly questions, but I'm trying to get back in gear again and > some of this stuff is > still fuzzy. > > Thanks and congratulations on the correct answer! ) > > Donna > > > > > > Thank you Ash for your impressive performance and the very helpful > > explanations. Before the answer came through, I was about to put in > > my (wrong) suggestion of uncle's or aunt's death, based on Ju AD > > lord triggering 6 (as Ld of 11) (6 being siblings of either parent, > > as well as particularly of mother), and the MD Lord Sa being natural > > SD to Ve which is in same house as Ju and thus SD to latter which is > > Ld of 3rd from 6... but I'll spare you further details, I've still > > got a lot of work to do! > > What I would like to know is, is there a way to distinguish between > > brothers and sisters and therefore also uncles/aunts? I notice that > > Ash had thought of the possibility of the death being of the > > father's brother or of that brother's wife (7th from brother). But > > what if it had been the father's sister? Is there any way to see > > this from the houses or otherwise? > > Many thanks to Ash, and to Dadhi for providing this useful example. > > Graham > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > Yes, good observation. If you read Dadhis quesiton hes asked about > > > > > > 1) Father (4th as B, considering 9th as Father.) > > > 2) Grandfather (12th as B, considering 9th for father and 9th from > > > there in as father's father so 5th house) > > > 3) Grand mother (9th is father, 11th i.e. 3rd from therein is > > Fathers > > > mother and 8th from there is 6th house which is Karak for death of > > > fathers mother). > > > 4) Uncle (Fathers brother.. same as point 3) > > > 5) Aunt (11th is fathers younger brother, 7th from there is uncles > > > wife, and 8th from there in is 12th for death). > > > > > > So house 3 and 2 though are triggered I did not consider as they > > were > > > not karaks for the questions asked. > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > One doubt! hs2 and hs3 are also triggered. Why did we filter > > those > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Dadhi, > > > > > I was thinking further on this note. > > > > > I checked that 11th house matters were triggering. So it can > > > also > > > > be > > > > > Fathers Younger brother (you just said Uncle which can be > > younger > > > > > brother too) or Mother. > > > > > So in short I wanted to point out that persons representing by > > > 11th > > > > > house might have expired. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dadhi, > > > > > > I havent worked a lot with the topic of death. For that we > > > still > > > > > > have to receive a detailed lesson. However I will like to > > make > > > > an > > > > > > attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > > I casted your chart and I think on Feb 19th 2004 your > > > Grandmother > > > > > > (fathers mother) might have died. > > > > > > > > > > > > Father's mother u see from 11th house. (3rd from 9th). 8th > > > from > > > > > > therein is 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > MD/AD running is Sa/Ju. Natural death happens in MD of 3rd > > > lord > > > > or > > > > > > its SD. Here Venus is 3rd lord from 11th. Sa is SD to > > Venus > > > so > > > > Sa > > > > > > can give results for Venus since Venus is aspecting house C > > > i.e. > > > > > 10th > > > > > > house keeping 6th as B. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is strongest significator for 6th house with 21 > > > points. > > > > > > Jupiter has less points for health i.e. 6th from 11th house > > > i.e. > > > > > > Fathers, mothers health. Also 3rd points are low i.e. 3rd > > from > > > > > 11th > > > > > > i.e. lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani is not causing delay so event should happen in 1st > > sector > > > > > > itself so Feb 19th 2004 falls in 1st sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suns Transits on 19th feb was on sign / nakshatra of Mars > > and > > > > > > Saturn. Mars has 19 points and Saturn has 16 for 6th house > > so > > > it > > > > > can > > > > > > trigger the event of death. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will look forward to your answer. > > > > > > In any case thanks for the puzzle and please accept my > > > > condolonces. > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Dadhi " > > > > > <denis@d...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > Would anyone try to make excersise using only KAS, and try > > to > > > > > find > > > > > > out from my chart, who died in my family on 19th of > > February ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can help you little bit: it is not from mother side of > > > > family. > > > > > So > > > > > > answer is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. father > > > > > > > b. uncle > > > > > > > c. aunt > > > > > > > d. grandfather > > > > > > > e. grandmother > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My data is: 24.October.1967. / 19:03 / 17E00, 43N45 / +1. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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