Houses representing death + MDs/ADs

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Dear all,

Ash and others have recently reminded us that the MD for natural

death will often be the 3rd lord (8 minus 6) or its SD. Is natural

death from old age or disease? And unnatural death accident or

violent death by another or by self?

Does anyone know what house is associated with unnatural death? The

12th perhaps? So would that make the MD triggering planet thh lord

of 12 minus 6, i.e. 7, or should we rather consider unnatural death

as a negative event, and therefore not triggered by the upachaya

houses, but rather to be found by rules for triggering negative

events (AD of 12th from B, or of planet aspected by Ld of 6, etc)?

Also, are there any rules for determining MD of negative events?

Any ideas would be welcome.

 

Also, I have a friend whose ascendant is right at the end of Gemini,

but could possibly be Cancer. She has just started (6 weeks ago) a

new MD Sa/Sa, and already 4 friends and family have died (both more

or less naturally, but not particularly old people, and in one case

in an accident). Am I correct in thinking that the 8th is the most

likely house to be triggered in a case like this, of a number deaths

of other people affecting the native? This could help to be more

sure about her ascendant.

Many thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

Graham

 

, " Graham Fox "

<fox.graham@w...> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Yes sorry, I've checked those messages, and as you explain in

> message 6272, kakshyas are not part of this system and the problem

> is dealt with in other ways. I agree it's important to keep to the

> KAS on this list. For my question about which house would

represent

> the mother and father as per the MD/AD at deaths of Dadhi's

> grandmothers, I don't feel I have really gone outside the system,

as

> in his message about houses and parents, Krushna does clearly set

> out the 3 possibilities and asks us to experiment. I really would

be

> interested if others have views or experience on this question.

>

> As to pinpointing the deaths to the day, I do have a couple of

other

> ideas, but as don't think these approaches are fully KAS, I won't

> bother the list with them. I would however be interested, just for

> my personal research, if Dadhi would like to tell us when the

first

> death occured. Perhaps he's waiting to see if anyone else is going

> to attempt to pinpoint the day: is that the case?

>

> Thanks

> Graham

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Graham,

> > Kakshya transits is not a part of this system. Please do not

> confuse

> > Kakshya transits with KAS.

> > Thanks,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Graham Fox "

> > <fox.graham@w...> wrote:

> > > I suppose a way to attempt a precise dating like this with the

> KAS

> > > would be through studing kakshas for transits, as per messages

> 6268-

> > > 6275. But that would be beyond me at the moment...

> > > Graham

> > > , " Graham Fox "

> > > <fox.graham@w...> wrote:

> > > > Dadhi -- Quite right, sorry for that blunder, it's using

> circular

> > > > transit charts catches me out, I'm used to my own with Aries

> > > rising.

> > > > Thanks for information -- maybe someone else would like to

> try. I

> > > > really don't know how things should be narrowed down that

> closely

> > > in

> > > > the KAS. Best wishes

> > > > Graham

> > > > , " Dadhi "

> > > > <denis@d...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >Well here goes... I think the death of maternal

grandmother

> > > could

> > > > > >have been either morning of 14th or morning of 18th. I'm

> > trying

> > > > to

> > > > > >Just a try!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Graham,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry for late answer. I was busy....

> > > > >

> > > > > Reg. death, good try, but one thing is important: Su can

not

> be

> > > in

> > > > Aq on 14th or 18th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, neither 14th or 18th is right.

> > > > >

> > > > > All the best,

> > > > > Dadhi