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Dear Group -

 

I have started a new website for Krushna which will contain a multitude of

things. It will be a work in progresss as we go along.

 

At the moment I've updated and revised Krushna's worksheet to incorporate

the Upacahaya Houses. It also has the natal chart and the house placements.

Ideally, one day we will be able to put everything together so that you can

open up a program, put in the birth data and have it automatically calculate

krushna's ayanamsha and give you the points for whatever house you need.

Right now however, we have to take one step at a time. The program is

located in the Worksheet section.

 

I've also added the lessons into the website, plus a Photo Gallery for all

of you who care to have your photos displayed there or updated with new

information and photos. When you click on the photo it will bring up details

about yourself. Some of the photos are now empty as I have no information

other than the snapshot of the person. For those of you who are inclined to

do so, please look at the information, and make note of it, then forward it

to me, so that I can put it into your data.

 

 

The site address is:

 

http://krushna.sageasita.com

 

Enjoy!

 

Donna

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Dear Donna,

 

Very nice !!!

 

Is it possible that you send me in private letter "Krushna's Worksheet -v 5.2" in zip format, because (somehow) I can not download this file from web page ?

 

Thank you.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

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Re: Krushna's New Website!

Dear Group -I have started a new website for Krushna which will contain a multitude ofthings. It will be a work in progresss as we go along.At the moment I've updated and revised Krushna's worksheet to incorporatethe Upacahaya Houses. It also has the natal chart and the house placements.Ideally, one day we will be able to put everything together so that you canopen up a program, put in the birth data and have it automatically calculatekrushna's ayanamsha and give you the points for whatever house you need.Right now however, we have to take one step at a time. The program islocated in the Worksheet section.I've also added the lessons into the website, plus a Photo Gallery for allof you who care to have your photos displayed there or updated with newinformation and photos. When you click on the photo it will bring up detailsabout yourself. Some of the photos are now empty as I have no informationother than the snapshot of the person. For those of you who are inclined todo so, please look at the information, and make note of it, then forward itto me, so that I can put it into your data.The site address is:http://krushna.sageasita.com

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Dear Madam

 

A lovely site. You have made this exercise quite easy. I am following the discussions in astrologyand timingevents group and was trying to figure out from the lessons.

I have deep interest in astrology-particularly in Vedic astrology and other such models.I am doing a sort of research.

 

Having tried an example of a chart, I have now some doubts.

The gentle man is leo ascendant. His date of birth is April 14, 1956.

The natal chart ,from the work sheet , does not show Jupiter and Saturn as retrograde.

Does this model not take Retrograde concepts?

 

Also,Jupiter in 12th for this leo ascendant shows to be yogakarka as it is the lord of B and A.Actually this is is not so in real life as the candidate had woes in Jupiter mahadasa period.This is in Gandastha position(as per Lahiri Ayamasa).

 

 

Various calculations show that Mars has more points as per your charts and this could be the real benefic.

 

 

Also how to calculate Chandra Vimshotri with Krushnaji's Ayamsa?I like to see the variations.

 

Am I confused with the Vedic system and this model or there are different interpretations? Pray tell me.I need to understand this further.I am really trying to appreciate this model after going through your site.

regards

Ananthakrishnan

short name: Ananth

 

 

 

 

 

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DearDadhi -

 

Very nice !!!

 

Thank-you . . .

 

Is it possible that you send me in private letter "Krushna's Worksheet -v 5.2" in zip format, because (somehow) I can not download this file from web page ?

 

I checked the link again in the website and everything seems to be working fine, so it could be just your connection. I'll send you a copy of it in a separate private email.

 

 

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Dear Ananth -

A lovely site. You have made this exercise quite easy.

 

Thank you. . .

 

 

Having tried an example of a chart, I have now some doubts.

The gentle man is leo ascendant. His date of birth is April 14, 1956.

The natal chart ,from the work sheet , does not show Jupiter and Saturn as retrograde.

Does this model not take Retrograde concepts?

 

The worksheet will not reflect retrograde positions at this point. The only thing it will do is reflect the postions of the planets as they are listed in their proper houses, so that you can see them more easily in regard to the A, B, C, D and E houses. In order to have listed the planets in the first place you would have had to have a program to calculate the chart to begin with using Krushna's Ayanamsha. This would show any degrees and retrogrades as well as dasas and other information necessary for now.

 

Also,Jupiter in 12th for this leo ascendant shows to be yogakarka as it is the lord of B and A.Actually this is is not so in real life as the candidate had woes in Jupiter mahadasa period.This is in Gandastha position(as per Lahiri Ayamasa).

 

We do not use the Lahiri Ayanamsha here. The very fact that you even say this shows me that you haven't read up on the lessons and are trying to run before you walk.

 

 

Various calculations show that Mars has more points as per your charts and this could be the real benefic.

 

 

Also how to calculate Chandra Vimshotri with Krushnaji's Ayamsa?I like to see the variations.

 

if you go to the Ayanamsha Calculator, it will give you the differences between lahiri and Krushna's ayanamsha.

 

Am I confused with the Vedic system and this model or there are different interpretations? Pray tell me.I need to understand this further.I am really trying to appreciate this model after going through your site.

 

In order to understand this system you must read all the lessons carefully. That would be your first step.

 

 

Donna

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Dear Ananth,

 

Some answers

 

1) This system is not a MODEL but a Detailed Theory. Krushnaji was

offered 2 Phd's for this.

 

2) Its only now that this system is getting popular.

 

3) Retrogate planets enhance results. Venus sometimes if < 3 degrees

from sun but retrogate in motion might still have some power left.

Things like these are considered.

 

4) Refer to lesson on child birth for retrogation and its use for

child birth.

 

5) What is called Yogakarak we use it in Samdharmi concept. Venus

and Shani are NSD (natural samdharmi). Mars and Moon and Mars and

Sun are other NSD's.

 

6) Just Jupiter in 12th for Leo ascendant is not Yogakarak ??? Guru

is in its unccha sthan. This much information is not enough. You

have not given the degree of Guru. We need to study the degree,

nakashatra, d chart position etc etc. Refer to some discussion on

Mahadasha and karaktwa. So in Gurus Mahadasha matters will be linked

to such.

 

7) Timing of Event and Quality of Event are 2 different things. We

should keep them seperate. Sign consideration is for Quantum and

Quality and backing of sign to the planet but Timing is different

thing all together. For quantum refer to Lesson 26 where

Multiplication factors are given. This will show Quantum.

 

8) Finally last suggestion is not to mix systems. This system covers

all aspects and with this system and WS you can find the power of

planet accurately for each and every house and for each and every

planet.

 

9) KAS is not different from Vedic Astrology. One must know basic

Vedic Astrology inorder to learn and understand this system.

 

10) Donna has pointed out for you to download the KAY calculator from

File section. It will show u the deviation from lahiri or the actual

Ayanamsa value. Feed that into your program.

 

11) I do not understand what you mean by Vedic Model ? Parasara and

Varharamira both refer and taught Ashtakavarga. So I do not

understand what you mean by Vedic Model. This system is based on

upchaya houses and it is a COMPLETE system. You do not need to

confuse yourself. In this system BAV, SAV, WS take care of all yogas

and their contras and Samdharmis take into consideratin navamsa

positions, nakshatra etc. So all angles are covered.

 

My suggestion is to slowly go through each lesson one by one and post

your questions. Do not mix systems.

 

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, Ananthakrishnan

Parthasarathy <akrishnan56> wrote:

> Dear Madam

>

> A lovely site. You have made this exercise quite easy. I am

following the discussions in astrologyand timingevents group and was

trying to figure out from the lessons.

> I have deep interest in astrology-particularly in Vedic astrology

and other such models.I am doing a sort of research.

>

> Having tried an example of a chart, I have now some doubts.

> The gentle man is leo ascendant. His date of birth is April 14,

1956.

> The natal chart ,from the work sheet , does not show Jupiter and

Saturn as retrograde.

> Does this model not take Retrograde concepts?

>

> Also,Jupiter in 12th for this leo ascendant shows to be yogakarka

as it is the lord of B and A.Actually this is is not so in real life

as the candidate had woes in Jupiter mahadasa period.This is in

Gandastha position(as per Lahiri Ayamasa).

>

>

> Various calculations show that Mars has more points as per your

charts and this could be the real benefic.

>

> Also how to calculate Chandra Vimshotri with Krushnaji's Ayamsa?I

like to see the variations.

>

>

> Am I confused with the Vedic system and this model or there are

different interpretations? Pray tell me.I need to understand this

further.I am really trying to appreciate this model after going

through your site.

> regards

> Ananthakrishnan

> short name: Ananth

>

>

>

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Dear Donna

 

Thanks for your inputs.

 

1. I know about Krushna ayamsa and have calculated and this about 1 degress 44 seconds less than Lahiri's, for the case refered.I just wanted know,if we can work out the chandra Vimshottari dasa or it is available elsewhere as a worksheet.Please read my mail carefully.

 

2. I have read the lessons whatever I could, hosted in the group .I have downloaded all the lessons.I have been following the discussions what Ash was contributing.Since I am studying various models ,hence it is necessary that I should not run but walk. My intent is clear and I hope you understood my intent.I thought you would tell me about the Gandastha positions,if relevant to this model and not otherwise.

 

This is really a good effort to create website on this model. I believe someone also who is studying this model would answer these questions.

 

Thanks

Ananthakrishnan

Short name : AnanthDonna Quinn <DQuinn12 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Ananth -

A lovely site. You have made this exercise quite easy.

 

Thank you. . .

 

 

Having tried an example of a chart, I have now some doubts.

The gentle man is leo ascendant. His date of birth is April 14, 1956.

The natal chart ,from the work sheet , does not show Jupiter and Saturn as retrograde.

Does this model not take Retrograde concepts?

 

The worksheet will not reflect retrograde positions at this point. The only thing it will do is reflect the postions of the planets as they are listed in their proper houses, so that you can see them more easily in regard to the A, B, C, D and E houses. In order to have listed the planets in the first place you would have had to have a program to calculate the chart to begin with using Krushna's Ayanamsha. This would show any degrees and retrogrades as well as dasas and other information necessary for now.

 

Also,Jupiter in 12th for this leo ascendant shows to be yogakarka as it is the lord of B and A.Actually this is is not so in real life as the candidate had woes in Jupiter mahadasa period.This is in Gandastha position(as per Lahiri Ayamasa).

 

We do not use the Lahiri Ayanamsha here. The very fact that you even say this shows me that you haven't read up on the lessons and are trying to run before you walk.

 

 

Various calculations show that Mars has more points as per your charts and this could be the real benefic.

 

 

Also how to calculate Chandra Vimshotri with Krushnaji's Ayamsa?I like to see the variations.

 

if you go to the Ayanamsha Calculator, it will give you the differences between lahiri and Krushna's ayanamsha.

 

Am I confused with the Vedic system and this model or there are different interpretations? Pray tell me.I need to understand this further.I am really trying to appreciate this model after going through your site.

 

In order to understand this system you must read all the lessons carefully. That would be your first step.

 

 

Donna

 

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Dear Anantha,

 

I shall answer your question.

 

1) Your software should compute the Vimshottari dasha once you feed

in the proper Ayanamsa value. I do not know which software you are

using but any vedic astrology software that has a place where you can

enter a custom ayanamsa value should take the new position or degree

of moon and compute the Vimshottari dasha starting from that point.

I think that will be clear.

 

2) Please read the lesson on divorse. Check out the nakshatras

venus is considered spoilt in. I think that should answer your

gandanta position and its use.

 

In any case we do not have to consider such things sperately in this

system. These things might be convered in one way or the other.

That is why its called KAS or Krushnas Ashtakavarga SYSTEM.

 

I hope that answers your questions.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, Ananthakrishnan

Parthasarathy <akrishnan56> wrote:

> Dear Donna

>

> Thanks for your inputs.

>

> 1. I know about Krushna ayamsa and have calculated and this about 1

degress 44 seconds less than Lahiri's, for the case refered.I just

wanted know,if we can work out the chandra Vimshottari dasa or it is

available elsewhere as a worksheet.Please read my mail carefully.

>

> 2. I have read the lessons whatever I could, hosted in the group .I

have downloaded all the lessons.I have been following the

discussions what Ash was contributing.Since I am studying various

models ,hence it is necessary that I should not run but walk. My

intent is clear and I hope you understood my intent.I thought you

would tell me about the Gandastha positions,if relevant to this

model and not otherwise.

>

> This is really a good effort to create website on this model. I

believe someone also who is studying this model would answer these

questions.

>

> Thanks

> Ananthakrishnan

> Short name : Ananth

> Donna Quinn <DQuinn12@o...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Ananth -

>

> A lovely site. You have made this exercise quite easy.

>

> Thank you. . .

>

>

> Having tried an example of a chart, I have now some doubts.

> The gentle man is leo ascendant. His date of birth is April 14,

1956.

> The natal chart ,from the work sheet , does not show Jupiter and

Saturn as retrograde.

> Does this model not take Retrograde concepts?

>

> The worksheet will not reflect retrograde positions at this point.

The only thing it will do is reflect the postions of the planets as

they are listed in their proper houses, so that you can see them more

easily in regard to the A, B, C, D and E houses. In order to have

listed the planets in the first place you would have had to have a

program to calculate the chart to begin with using Krushna's

Ayanamsha. This would show any degrees and retrogrades as well as

dasas and other information necessary for now.

>

> Also,Jupiter in 12th for this leo ascendant shows to be yogakarka

as it is the lord of B and A.Actually this is is not so in real life

as the candidate had woes in Jupiter mahadasa period.This is in

Gandastha position(as per Lahiri Ayamasa).

>

> We do not use the Lahiri Ayanamsha here. The very fact that you

even say this shows me that you haven't read up on the lessons and

are trying to run before you walk.

>

>

> Various calculations show that Mars has more points as per your

charts and this could be the real benefic.

>

> Also how to calculate Chandra Vimshotri with Krushnaji's Ayamsa?I

like to see the variations.

>

> if you go to the Ayanamsha Calculator, it will give you the

differences between lahiri and Krushna's ayanamsha.

>

>

> Am I confused with the Vedic system and this model or there are

different interpretations? Pray tell me.I need to understand this

further.I am really trying to appreciate this model after going

through your site.

>

>

> In order to understand this system you must read all the lessons

carefully. That would be your first step.

>

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ash

 

At the outset, I thank you for your immediate response to my queries. I read both of your mails.

 

I have not questioned KAS. I am also happy that Krushnaji got two Phd’s on this. I am in Vedic principles and consider Vedic Astrology as the eye of Vedas. I am a learner and always am. I am interested to know the various nuances of this predictive system.

 

I found Donna’s site well organized and giving a systematic knowledge of the KAS.

 

You wanted me to tell why I constantly referred the word Model. I think, I should.

 

The word "model" means different things to different people. Hence, I must define what I mean by a model. I define a model as a formal statement of assumptions about how the system functions, conceptualizations about how parts of the system are interconnected, and experimental design. The last statement means that, while I or you may know a great deal about a system under study, experimental design may not permit us to resolve all of the fine detail we know are present, and hence a data-driven model may be an oversimplification of the truth (but useful anyway). The modeling process provides a means by which each of us can categorize what we know about the system in an understandable way. Our models may be different, but we cannot think in detail about a system without having some (qualitative) picture in our mind of how it works.

 

I appreciate that KAS is a system based on Ashtavaraga, which Vedic astrology also uses, I tried to apply the principles involved in an example. I was trying to model to check with certain realities. Vedic astrology talks about Parashara hora shastras, Jaimini Siddhantas, Narayana Shastras etc. and these are guiding principles in the predictive science. We model using these principles and see how near is to the reality.

 

That is why I have used the word “Model”. I have used KAS as model because it is based on Ashtavarga principles (adding some more) in this predictive science, which may tend towards realistic conclusions.

 

 

I shall go through the lessons again on the points indicated by you. If I have query, I shall get back to you.

Regards

Ananthakrishnan

Short name: Ananth

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ananth,Some answers1) This system is not a MODEL but a Detailed Theory. Krushnaji was offered 2 Phd's for this.2) Its only now that this system is getting popular. 3) Retrogate planets enhance results. Venus sometimes if < 3 degrees from sun but retrogate in motion might still have some power left. Things like these are considered.4) Refer to lesson on child birth for retrogation and its use for child birth. 5) What is called Yogakarak we use it in Samdharmi concept. Venus and Shani are NSD (natural samdharmi). Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun are other NSD's. 6) Just Jupiter in 12th for Leo ascendant is not Yogakarak ??? Guru is in its unccha sthan. This much information is not enough. You have not given the degree of

Guru. We need to study the degree, nakashatra, d chart position etc etc. Refer to some discussion on Mahadasha and karaktwa. So in Gurus Mahadasha matters will be linked to such.7) Timing of Event and Quality of Event are 2 different things. We should keep them seperate. Sign consideration is for Quantum and Quality and backing of sign to the planet but Timing is different thing all together. For quantum refer to Lesson 26 where Multiplication factors are given. This will show Quantum.8) Finally last suggestion is not to mix systems. This system covers all aspects and with this system and WS you can find the power of planet accurately for each and every house and for each and every planet. 9) KAS is not different from Vedic Astrology. One must know basic Vedic Astrology inorder to learn and understand this system.10) Donna has pointed out for you to

download the KAY calculator from File section. It will show u the deviation from lahiri or the actual Ayanamsa value. Feed that into your program. 11) I do not understand what you mean by Vedic Model ? Parasara and Varharamira both refer and taught Ashtakavarga. So I do not understand what you mean by Vedic Model. This system is based on upchaya houses and it is a COMPLETE system. You do not need to confuse yourself. In this system BAV, SAV, WS take care of all yogas and their contras and Samdharmis take into consideratin navamsa positions, nakshatra etc. So all angles are covered.My suggestion is to slowly go through each lesson one by one and post your questions. Do not mix systems.Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ash

 

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Thanks Donna,

I have in fact just found it on Ash's last lettr where he reproduced your letter.

I have also had a quick glance at the updated worksheet and it looks wonderful. I should have to spend a lot more time with it to see just how wonderful it is.

 

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Dear Anantha,

Thanks for your explanation of the term Model. You are right it

might mean differnet things to different people and after reading

your definition, I agree with you.

 

Please feel free to share your experiences to the group and your

inputs will be out here on the list and may some day help new members

to the list or members going through the archives.

 

Out of curiosity, how many places in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trimsamsa

is lagna/sun/moon in sector of Shani ?

 

My hunch it will be more than 2.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

, Ananthakrishnan

Parthasarathy <akrishnan56> wrote:

>

> Dear Ash

>

>

>

> At the outset, I thank you for your immediate response to my

queries. I read both of your mails.

>

>

>

> I have not questioned KAS. I am also happy that Krushnaji got two

Phd's on this. I am in Vedic principles and consider Vedic Astrology

as the eye of Vedas. I am a learner and always am. I am interested to

know the various nuances of this predictive system.

>

>

>

> I found Donna's site well organized and giving a systematic

knowledge of the KAS.

>

>

>

> You wanted me to tell why I constantly referred the word Model. I

think, I should.

>

>

>

> The word " model " means different things to different people. Hence,

I must define what I mean by a model. I define a model as a formal

statement of assumptions about how the system functions,

conceptualizations about how parts of the system are interconnected,

and experimental design. The last statement means that, while I or

you may know a great deal about a system under study, experimental

design may not permit us to resolve all of the fine detail we know

are present, and hence a data-driven model may be an

oversimplification of the truth (but useful anyway). The modeling

process provides a means by which each of us can categorize what we

know about the system in an understandable way. Our models may be

different, but we cannot think in detail about a system without

having some (qualitative) picture in our mind of how it works.

>

>

>

> I appreciate that KAS is a system based on Ashtavaraga, which Vedic

astrology also uses, I tried to apply the principles involved in an

example. I was trying to model to check with certain realities. Vedic

astrology talks about Parashara hora shastras, Jaimini Siddhantas,

Narayana Shastras etc. and these are guiding principles in the

predictive science. We model using these principles and see how near

is to the reality.

>

>

>

> That is why I have used the word " Model " . I have used KAS as model

because it is based on Ashtavarga principles (adding some more) in

this predictive science, which may tend towards realistic conclusions.

>

>

>

>

>

> I shall go through the lessons again on the points indicated by

you. If I have query, I shall get back to you.

>

> Regards

>

> Ananthakrishnan

>

> Short name: Ananth

>

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Dear Peter -

 

I have in fact just found it on Ash's last lettr where he reproduced your letter.

I have also had a quick glance at the updated worksheet and it looks wonderful. I should have to spend a lot more time with it to see just how wonderful it is.

 

 

Glad you finally found it. have fun!

 

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Dear Donna,

 

Brilliant!! I will have to invest in Excel at some stage now ;-) .

 

Thanks for putting this together for us.

 

Cheers - Sateesh.

 

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Dear Sateesh -

 

You don't have EXCEL??? You HAVE to get it, especially if you want to learn

this system. It wil be invaluable to you in the long run, believe me. . .

 

Donna

 

 

 

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Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:24 PM

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Dear Donna,

 

Brilliant!! I will have to invest in Excel at some stage now ;-) .

 

Thanks for putting this together for us.

 

Cheers - Sateesh.

 

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Dear Donna,

 

I have Excel-reader so can view my tables Ash did for me :-) . So am half-way there.

 

Sat.

 

 

- Donna Quinn

Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:09 PM

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Dear Sateesh -

 

You don't have EXCEL??? You HAVE to get it, especially if you want to learn

this system. It wil be invaluable to you in the long run, believe me. . .

 

 

 

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Dear Sateesh -

 

Yeah, that's the only downside to Excel. The program spreadsheet is expensive and sort of deters people from purchasing it, but since the price of the KAS program is free, it's about the best we can do for now.

 

Donna

 

 

 

-

Sateesh Batas

Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:46 PM

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Dear Donna,

 

I have Excel-reader so can view my tables Ash did for me :-) . So am half-way there.

 

Sat.

 

 

- Donna Quinn

Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:09 PM

Re: Re: Krushna's New Website!

 

Dear Sateesh -

 

You don't have EXCEL??? You HAVE to get it, especially if you want to learn

this system. It wil be invaluable to you in the long run, believe me. . .

 

 

 

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Hi Donna,

From what I saw of it there is only about one addition which would improve it now. That is if the dasa could be added. Don't worry I'm not trying to suggest that they could be added I think it would probably be too difficult.

 

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Dear Peter -

From what I saw of it there is only about one addition which would improve it now. That is if the dasa could be added. Don't worry I'm not trying to suggest that they could be added I think it would probably be too difficult.

 

We're always working on improving the worksheet, to try and consolidate all the tools necessary to make it as easy as possible to interpret the chart. So, some day. . .

 

Donna

 

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