Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Dear Parafulla, Graham, Ash - Ok, the necessary revisions have been made to the worksheet and it's been reloaded onto the Site once more under v5.5. Prafulla, you won't get anymore zero values on the multiplication factor for the Sun. I hope Ash has answered all your questions suffiiciently as i was having a hard time understanding what you were trying to say, sorry. So I asked him for clarification on this. I'd rather do that then give you a wrong answer. . . Hope this helps! Donna > > No both of you are right. There seems to be some > slight change of EXCEL REFERENCE VALUE. > > I was also going through the worksheet when Prafulla > said about Sun getting 0. Then I saw that part. > > Yes, both of you have a very fine eye and u all are > following the system well. > > > Donna, there is a slight problem in reference value. > It seems like the Multiplication factor's refernces > are starting at the wrong cell value. > > Good one.. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > --- Graham Fox <fox.graham wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > There's something I don't understand about this > > multiplication > > factor question. In Lesson 26, as you say, the > > factor is never 0. > > But in the " Sign values " above the bindus in the > > sarva sheet of WS, > > Donna's Sun's factor is given as 0, although Ch 26 > > gives the factor > > for a Sun in Aquarius as 0.5. Also, her moon in > > Cancer should get a > > factor of 1.2, but in her WS it gets 0.5. Have I > > misunderstood > > something, or am I looking in the wrong place? > > Thanks > > Graham > > , > > " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > The Multiplication Factor is in Lesson 26. No > > where its given or > > for > > > any house its NEVER 0. So your Sun is not Zero. > > That is > > incorrect. > > > > > > These Multiplication factor is derived based on > > lot of things. > > > > > > Again in your text you have confused event from > > quality. You said > > > Sun will weak due to multiplication factor. This > > is precicely I > > say > > > not to confused timing from quality. > > > > > > You said Sun will be weak, .. weak for what ???? > > giving results.. > > or > > > quality... or happiness from event..... > > > > > > Start from Lesson 1 and try to understand the > > essensce. Even > > jaimini > > > said Dara is 4th house.. in our system its LoD. > > Upapada is arudha > > of > > > 12th and 12th is LoE in our system etc etc... > > > > > > Each and everything is considered and we just use > > 1 dasha i.e. > > > Vimshottari dashsa starting from moon. > > > > > > Donna has given the Multiplication factor just > > over the bindus in > > the > > > Sarva sheet. > > > > > > Another thing, start from Lesson 1. Do not > > confuse other system > > or > > > other dashas. Keep that aside. Use that if u are > > more confident > > to > > > verify results. But learn all aspects of this > > system in full > > > starting from Lesson 1. Then the essense of > > system will come out > > and > > > u will begin to see the depth. > > > > > > Here in this system its all based on numbers. > > Numbers are numbers > > > and you do not have to stretch 2 ends to justify > > the event. That > > is > > > the simplicty of this system. > > > > > > Now with worksheet this is made even more easy. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " Prafulla Gang " > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash > > > > > > > > Many thanks for detailed note. Now I understood > > for 12th house > > lord > > > > effects for 7b. > > > > > > > > I am working backwards for events and applying > > KAS. Except for > > > > aspect on own sign, it seems working well. I did > > apply on > > navamsa > > > as > > > > well. and am applying this alongwith few other > > systems to work > > > > around fine tuned approach. Yes, the technique > > will certainly > > work > > > > well in experienced hands. Actually, the probelm > > is my own, > > where I > > > > left astrology for past 5 years and since then i > > am just a > > passive > > > > reader. Yesterday, was the most involved day, > > where on Holiday, > > I > > > > utilized with KAS on atleast 10 charts and tried > > to identify the > > > > results. > > > > > > > > Somehow, while doing astrology 5 years back, I > > used to work on > > SA > > > > along with Jemini. The dasa system was always a > > confusion to me > > for > > > > wanting of ayanamsa correction. In my life > > events, i always > > > followed > > > > in past, the local BrahmPakshi Panchang, which > > gives me > > difference > > > > of dasa by 65 days for now. and I could work > > around more on > > > transit, > > > > constellation based systems and fine tuned > > readings on D charts > > > > using Nadi Jyotish theories. Well, In this > > forum, the agenda is > > not > > > > to discuss the contradictions, as many a times > > the > > contradictions > > > > may be there due to my own lack of complete > > understanding of any > > > > specific system . > > > > > > > > Now a interesting issue u have raised is of > > weightage factor. If > > > the > > > > factor is zero like for me for Sun; then does it > > mean that sun > > will > > > > be helpless to perform at all for any house, > > even where it has > > more > > > > than 12 points. If so, then being lagna lord, it > > will weaken the > > > > entire chart (as lagna lord's weakness is the > > pivotal issue for > > any > > > > planet to perform). > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to see KAS in totality, but the > > question of aspect on > > > its > > > > own house will remain a hanging issue, till I > > could analyse more > > > > charts. Other list members, may please share > > their experiences. > > > > > > > > i know, i am asking too much from Donna, but if > > she can expand > > the > > > > spreadsheet from not only from lagna, but also > > from moon sign, > > sun > > > > sign and navamsa chart for the prupose of > > comparative analysis. > > > This > > > > will be a great tool. Also, in this modified > > spreadsheet, what > > will > > > > be weightage factor from each one as well !! and > > then we can > > very > > > > well conclude the samdharmi planets related > > effects/posibility. > > > > > > > > warm regards/Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > Ash Sam > > > > H<ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > Don't worry you are not sounding > > argumantative. You > > > > > are seeking clarifications which is very good. > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Search - Find what you're looking for faster > http://search. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Hi Donna Many thanks for yr quick fix to the sheet. It is not important who answers, but it is important, someone answers. Yes, Ash has been a great help in understanding KAS. It was me, who asked to integrate the KAS from lagna, moon, sun . I still feel that one sheet will be a great help. regards/Prafulla , Donna Quinn <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > > Dear Parafulla, Graham, Ash - > > Ok, the necessary revisions have been made to the worksheet > and it's been reloaded onto the Site once more under v5.5. > Prafulla, you won't get anymore zero values on the multiplication > factor for the Sun. > > I hope Ash has answered all your questions suffiiciently as i was > having a hard time understanding what you were trying to say, > sorry. So I asked him for clarification on this. I'd rather do that then > give you a wrong answer. . . > > Hope this helps! > Donna > > > > > > No both of you are right. There seems to be some > > slight change of EXCEL REFERENCE VALUE. > > > > I was also going through the worksheet when Prafulla > > said about Sun getting 0. Then I saw that part. > > > > Yes, both of you have a very fine eye and u all are > > following the system well. > > > > > > Donna, there is a slight problem in reference value. > > It seems like the Multiplication factor's refernces > > are starting at the wrong cell value. > > > > Good one.. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- Graham Fox <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > There's something I don't understand about this > > > multiplication > > > factor question. In Lesson 26, as you say, the > > > factor is never 0. > > > But in the " Sign values " above the bindus in the > > > sarva sheet of WS, > > > Donna's Sun's factor is given as 0, although Ch 26 > > > gives the factor > > > for a Sun in Aquarius as 0.5. Also, her moon in > > > Cancer should get a > > > factor of 1.2, but in her WS it gets 0.5. Have I > > > misunderstood > > > something, or am I looking in the wrong place? > > > Thanks > > > Graham > > > , > > > " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > The Multiplication Factor is in Lesson 26. No > > > where its given or > > > for > > > > any house its NEVER 0. So your Sun is not Zero. > > > That is > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > These Multiplication factor is derived based on > > > lot of things. > > > > > > > > Again in your text you have confused event from > > > quality. You said > > > > Sun will weak due to multiplication factor. This > > > is precicely I > > > say > > > > not to confused timing from quality. > > > > > > > > You said Sun will be weak, .. weak for what ???? > > > giving results.. > > > or > > > > quality... or happiness from event..... > > > > > > > > Start from Lesson 1 and try to understand the > > > essensce. Even > > > jaimini > > > > said Dara is 4th house.. in our system its LoD. > > > Upapada is arudha > > > of > > > > 12th and 12th is LoE in our system etc etc... > > > > > > > > Each and everything is considered and we just use > > > 1 dasha i.e. > > > > Vimshottari dashsa starting from moon. > > > > > > > > Donna has given the Multiplication factor just > > > over the bindus in > > > the > > > > Sarva sheet. > > > > > > > > Another thing, start from Lesson 1. Do not > > > confuse other system > > > or > > > > other dashas. Keep that aside. Use that if u are > > > more confident > > > to > > > > verify results. But learn all aspects of this > > > system in full > > > > starting from Lesson 1. Then the essense of > > > system will come out > > > and > > > > u will begin to see the depth. > > > > > > > > Here in this system its all based on numbers. > > > Numbers are numbers > > > > and you do not have to stretch 2 ends to justify > > > the event. That > > > is > > > > the simplicty of this system. > > > > > > > > Now with worksheet this is made even more easy. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " Prafulla Gang " > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Ash > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for detailed note. Now I understood > > > for 12th house > > > lord > > > > > effects for 7b. > > > > > > > > > > I am working backwards for events and applying > > > KAS. Except for > > > > > aspect on own sign, it seems working well. I did > > > apply on > > > navamsa > > > > as > > > > > well. and am applying this alongwith few other > > > systems to work > > > > > around fine tuned approach. Yes, the technique > > > will certainly > > > work > > > > > well in experienced hands. Actually, the probelm > > > is my own, > > > where I > > > > > left astrology for past 5 years and since then i > > > am just a > > > passive > > > > > reader. Yesterday, was the most involved day, > > > where on Holiday, > > > I > > > > > utilized with KAS on atleast 10 charts and tried > > > to identify the > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > Somehow, while doing astrology 5 years back, I > > > used to work on > > > SA > > > > > along with Jemini. The dasa system was always a > > > confusion to me > > > for > > > > > wanting of ayanamsa correction. In my life > > > events, i always > > > > followed > > > > > in past, the local BrahmPakshi Panchang, which > > > gives me > > > difference > > > > > of dasa by 65 days for now. and I could work > > > around more on > > > > transit, > > > > > constellation based systems and fine tuned > > > readings on D charts > > > > > using Nadi Jyotish theories. Well, In this > > > forum, the agenda is > > > not > > > > > to discuss the contradictions, as many a times > > > the > > > contradictions > > > > > may be there due to my own lack of complete > > > understanding of any > > > > > specific system . > > > > > > > > > > Now a interesting issue u have raised is of > > > weightage factor. If > > > > the > > > > > factor is zero like for me for Sun; then does it > > > mean that sun > > > will > > > > > be helpless to perform at all for any house, > > > even where it has > > > more > > > > > than 12 points. If so, then being lagna lord, it > > > will weaken the > > > > > entire chart (as lagna lord's weakness is the > > > pivotal issue for > > > any > > > > > planet to perform). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to see KAS in totality, but the > > > question of aspect on > > > > its > > > > > own house will remain a hanging issue, till I > > > could analyse more > > > > > charts. Other list members, may please share > > > their experiences. > > > > > > > > > > i know, i am asking too much from Donna, but if > > > she can expand > > > the > > > > > spreadsheet from not only from lagna, but also > > > from moon sign, > > > sun > > > > > sign and navamsa chart for the prupose of > > > comparative analysis. > > > > This > > > > > will be a great tool. Also, in this modified > > > spreadsheet, what > > > will > > > > > be weightage factor from each one as well !! and > > > then we can > > > very > > > > > well conclude the samdharmi planets related > > > effects/posibility. > > > > > > > > > > warm regards/Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > Ash Sam > > > > > H<ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > Don't worry you are not sounding > > > argumantative. You > > > > > > are seeking clarifications which is very good. > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Search - Find what you're looking for faster > > http://search. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Dear Prafulla, I think I was wrong to say that that you'd simply have to enter the sun or moon sign in the lagna box, as that would throw the calculations for AV points from lagna out, and change the points of all the planets. But it's quite simple: you just make a note separately of the new house equivalences in 3 columns, from lagna, from sun and from moon, and see which house you have to check in WS (based on lagna column) for e.g. 10th from Moon. But frankly, I think we've got enough on our plates with houses from lagna, and we'd end up with six houses being D and E from any one house. Too much for me at the moment! Best wishes Graham , " Prafulla Gang " <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > Hi Donna > > Many thanks for yr quick fix to the sheet. > > It is not important who answers, but it is important, someone > answers. Yes, Ash has been a great help in understanding KAS. > > It was me, who asked to integrate the KAS from lagna, moon, sun . I > still feel that one sheet will be a great help. > > regards/Prafulla > , Donna Quinn > <DQuinn12@o...> wrote: > > > > Dear Parafulla, Graham, Ash - > > > > Ok, the necessary revisions have been made to the worksheet > > and it's been reloaded onto the Site once more under v5.5. > > Prafulla, you won't get anymore zero values on the multiplication > > factor for the Sun. > > > > I hope Ash has answered all your questions suffiiciently as i was > > having a hard time understanding what you were trying to say, > > sorry. So I asked him for clarification on this. I'd rather do > that then > > give you a wrong answer. . . > > > > Hope this helps! > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > No both of you are right. There seems to be some > > > slight change of EXCEL REFERENCE VALUE. > > > > > > I was also going through the worksheet when Prafulla > > > said about Sun getting 0. Then I saw that part. > > > > > > Yes, both of you have a very fine eye and u all are > > > following the system well. > > > > > > > > > Donna, there is a slight problem in reference value. > > > It seems like the Multiplication factor's refernces > > > are starting at the wrong cell value. > > > > > > Good one.. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Graham Fox <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > There's something I don't understand about this > > > > multiplication > > > > factor question. In Lesson 26, as you say, the > > > > factor is never 0. > > > > But in the " Sign values " above the bindus in the > > > > sarva sheet of WS, > > > > Donna's Sun's factor is given as 0, although Ch 26 > > > > gives the factor > > > > for a Sun in Aquarius as 0.5. Also, her moon in > > > > Cancer should get a > > > > factor of 1.2, but in her WS it gets 0.5. Have I > > > > misunderstood > > > > something, or am I looking in the wrong place? > > > > Thanks > > > > Graham > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > The Multiplication Factor is in Lesson 26. No > > > > where its given or > > > > for > > > > > any house its NEVER 0. So your Sun is not Zero. > > > > That is > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > These Multiplication factor is derived based on > > > > lot of things. > > > > > > > > > > Again in your text you have confused event from > > > > quality. You said > > > > > Sun will weak due to multiplication factor. This > > > > is precicely I > > > > say > > > > > not to confused timing from quality. > > > > > > > > > > You said Sun will be weak, .. weak for what ???? > > > > giving results.. > > > > or > > > > > quality... or happiness from event..... > > > > > > > > > > Start from Lesson 1 and try to understand the > > > > essensce. Even > > > > jaimini > > > > > said Dara is 4th house.. in our system its LoD. > > > > Upapada is arudha > > > > of > > > > > 12th and 12th is LoE in our system etc etc... > > > > > > > > > > Each and everything is considered and we just use > > > > 1 dasha i.e. > > > > > Vimshottari dashsa starting from moon. > > > > > > > > > > Donna has given the Multiplication factor just > > > > over the bindus in > > > > the > > > > > Sarva sheet. > > > > > > > > > > Another thing, start from Lesson 1. Do not > > > > confuse other system > > > > or > > > > > other dashas. Keep that aside. Use that if u are > > > > more confident > > > > to > > > > > verify results. But learn all aspects of this > > > > system in full > > > > > starting from Lesson 1. Then the essense of > > > > system will come out > > > > and > > > > > u will begin to see the depth. > > > > > > > > > > Here in this system its all based on numbers. > > > > Numbers are numbers > > > > > and you do not have to stretch 2 ends to justify > > > > the event. That > > > > is > > > > > the simplicty of this system. > > > > > > > > > > Now with worksheet this is made even more easy. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " Prafulla Gang " > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for detailed note. Now I understood > > > > for 12th house > > > > lord > > > > > > effects for 7b. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working backwards for events and applying > > > > KAS. Except for > > > > > > aspect on own sign, it seems working well. I did > > > > apply on > > > > navamsa > > > > > as > > > > > > well. and am applying this alongwith few other > > > > systems to work > > > > > > around fine tuned approach. Yes, the technique > > > > will certainly > > > > work > > > > > > well in experienced hands. Actually, the probelm > > > > is my own, > > > > where I > > > > > > left astrology for past 5 years and since then i > > > > am just a > > > > passive > > > > > > reader. Yesterday, was the most involved day, > > > > where on Holiday, > > > > I > > > > > > utilized with KAS on atleast 10 charts and tried > > > > to identify the > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > Somehow, while doing astrology 5 years back, I > > > > used to work on > > > > SA > > > > > > along with Jemini. The dasa system was always a > > > > confusion to me > > > > for > > > > > > wanting of ayanamsa correction. In my life > > > > events, i always > > > > > followed > > > > > > in past, the local BrahmPakshi Panchang, which > > > > gives me > > > > difference > > > > > > of dasa by 65 days for now. and I could work > > > > around more on > > > > > transit, > > > > > > constellation based systems and fine tuned > > > > readings on D charts > > > > > > using Nadi Jyotish theories. Well, In this > > > > forum, the agenda is > > > > not > > > > > > to discuss the contradictions, as many a times > > > > the > > > > contradictions > > > > > > may be there due to my own lack of complete > > > > understanding of any > > > > > > specific system . > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a interesting issue u have raised is of > > > > weightage factor. If > > > > > the > > > > > > factor is zero like for me for Sun; then does it > > > > mean that sun > > > > will > > > > > > be helpless to perform at all for any house, > > > > even where it has > > > > more > > > > > > than 12 points. If so, then being lagna lord, it > > > > will weaken the > > > > > > entire chart (as lagna lord's weakness is the > > > > pivotal issue for > > > > any > > > > > > planet to perform). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to see KAS in totality, but the > > > > question of aspect on > > > > > its > > > > > > own house will remain a hanging issue, till I > > > > could analyse more > > > > > > charts. Other list members, may please share > > > > their experiences. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know, i am asking too much from Donna, but if > > > > she can expand > > > > the > > > > > > spreadsheet from not only from lagna, but also > > > > from moon sign, > > > > sun > > > > > > sign and navamsa chart for the prupose of > > > > comparative analysis. > > > > > This > > > > > > will be a great tool. Also, in this modified > > > > spreadsheet, what > > > > will > > > > > > be weightage factor from each one as well !! and > > > > then we can > > > > very > > > > > > well conclude the samdharmi planets related > > > > effects/posibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards/Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > Ash Sam > > > > > > H<ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > > Don't worry you are not sounding > > > > argumantative. You > > > > > > > are seeking clarifications which is very good. > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search - Find what you're looking for faster > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 > Hi Prafulla -> > Many thanks for yr quick fix to the sheet. You're welcome. . .> > It is not important who answers, but it is important, someone > answers. Yes, Ash has been a great help in understanding KAS. Yes, his knowledge and understanding of this system has been invaluable on this list. > > It was me, who asked to integrate the KAS from lagna, moon, sun . I > still feel that one sheet will be a great help. I will put it on my list of things to do for future updates. . .) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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