Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Ash, Where did you get this law from? Could you please explain more on this? I know many people with sun in seventh... actually whoever born in the evening hours has a possibility of having Sun in 7th so does the law apply to everyone of them? Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but know some astrology so would love to know more about these LAWS. --Manoshi , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > However, can you please let me know what are the other conditions > that should be checked for this matter? > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a law which says that > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the wife has a > paramour > > subject to other conditions. These laws were written as per the > life > > style in old times. > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in female charts with > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could mean that their is > > more possibility of their husbands having a paramour. > > > > During old times only male members worked and wifes generally > stayed > > home so such combinations or laws were given for male charts. > Today > > things are different so I would like to test this. > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in my research it > would > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manoshi, This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times such things were seen from Male chart as women were home makers and " generally " not in workforce and holding positions of authority. Now a days things are different. Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that spouse could have a paramour. The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to sun distance etc. So if you have such charts and know such data with confidence we could discuss such things. Cheers !!! Ash --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > explain more on > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > actually whoever > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > having Sun in 7th so > does the law apply to everyone of them? > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > know some > astrology so would love to know more about these > LAWS. > > --Manoshi > , > " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > However, can you please let me know what are the > other conditions > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > , > " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > law which says > that > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > wife has a > > paramour > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > written as per the > > life > > > style in old times. > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > female charts with > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > mean that their > is > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > paramour. > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > wifes generally > > stayed > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > male charts. > > Today > > > things are different so I would like to test > this. > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > my research it > > would > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Sure Ash. 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. Husband never had any fancy woman in his life. I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give the details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a sun in the seventh. Thanx Manoshi , Ash Sam <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > different. > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > spouse could have a paramour. > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > sun distance etc. > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > confidence we could discuss such things. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > explain more on > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > actually whoever > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > having Sun in 7th so > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > know some > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > LAWS. > > > > --Manoshi > > , > > " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > other conditions > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , > > " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > law which says > > that > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > wife has a > > > paramour > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > written as per the > > > life > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > female charts with > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > mean that their > > is > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > paramour. > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > wifes generally > > > stayed > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > male charts. > > > Today > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > this. > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > my research it > > > would > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manoshi, I know with evenings births Sun will be in 7th. Is this chart of male or female ? Cheers !!! Ash , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > Sure Ash. > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. Husband > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give the > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a sun > in the seventh. > > Thanx > Manoshi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 A female. My previous message mentioned that the husband did not have any other relations. Thats what you meant or I got it wrong? --Manoshi , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > I know with evenings births Sun will be in 7th. > Is this chart of male or female ? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa> wrote: > > Sure Ash. > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > Husband > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give the > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a sun > > in the seventh. > > > > Thanx > > Manoshi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manoshi, I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not getting Sun in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 binuds. The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and then I get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years which means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius lagna. So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make things a bit easier on me. :=) Cheers !!! Ash , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > Sure Ash. > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. Husband > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give the > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a sun > in the seventh. > > Thanx > Manoshi > > , Ash Sam > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > different. > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > sun distance etc. > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > explain more on > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > actually whoever > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > know some > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > LAWS. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > , > > > " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > other conditions > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > law which says > > > that > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > wife has a > > > > paramour > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > written as per the > > > > life > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > female charts with > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > mean that their > > > is > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > wifes generally > > > > stayed > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > male charts. > > > > Today > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > my research it > > > > would > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. Sorry about that. :-P ok here is another chart..with lahiri. 25th april, 1972 calcutta 6:30 p.m. The married life is good till now...newly married though so cannot say about future. ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the age of 20 and the birth data is right. Again sorry about the error. --Manoshi , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not getting Sun > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 binuds. > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and then I > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years which > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius lagna. > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make things a > bit easier on me. :=) > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa> wrote: > > Sure Ash. > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > Husband > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give the > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a sun > > in the seventh. > > > > Thanx > > Manoshi > > > > , Ash Sam > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > different. > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > explain more on > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > actually whoever > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > know some > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > , > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > other conditions > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > law which says > > > > that > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > wife has a > > > > > paramour > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > written as per the > > > > > life > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > female charts with > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > mean that their > > > > is > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > wifes generally > > > > > stayed > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > male charts. > > > > > Today > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > my research it > > > > > would > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 The chart is of a male now. and I think we have dicussed before a chart with Sun in 7th. I dont see any such tendencies in the husband of the native in the other chart as well. Please dont get me wrong , the word SUBJECT to conditions really is very important. Just having sun in seventh or Jupiter in Libra, can not make a law...can it? :-) thanx Manoshi , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. Sorry > about that. :-P > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > 25th april, 1972 > calcutta > 6:30 p.m. > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so cannot > say about future. > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the age of > 20 and the birth data is right. > > Again sorry about the error. > > --Manoshi > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not getting > Sun > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 > binuds. > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and then I > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years which > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius lagna. > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make things > a > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > > Husband > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give > the > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a > sun > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > Thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > different. > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > explain more on > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > know some > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > , > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > law which says > > > > > that > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > life > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > mean that their > > > > > is > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > my research it > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manoshi, Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is 44.39 deg and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary in navamsa. Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna v/s 7th is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. She has 2 zeores in SAV. So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is newly married so its in line. It might have happend in last sector. So marriage might have happened in last sector so after March/2004. Can u confirm the marriage date ? Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. Sorry > about that. :-P > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > 25th april, 1972 > calcutta > 6:30 p.m. > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so cannot > say about future. > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the age of > 20 and the birth data is right. > > Again sorry about the error. > > --Manoshi > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not getting > Sun > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 > binuds. > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and then I > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years which > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius lagna. > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make things > a > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > > Husband > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give > the > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a > sun > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > Thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > different. > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > explain more on > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > know some > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > , > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > law which says > > > > > that > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > life > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > mean that their > > > > > is > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > my research it > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Well, the chart is of a male. He got married in 2003 december. By profession he is a lawyer and got a job after struggle at the age of 29. Is that enough information? But the marriage seems happy till now. Manoshi , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is 44.39 deg > and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary in > navamsa. > Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna v/s 7th > is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. > She has 2 zeores in SAV. > So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is newly > married so its in line. It might have happend in last sector. So > marriage might have happened in last sector so after March/2004. > Can u confirm the marriage date ? > Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa> wrote: > > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. Sorry > > about that. :-P > > > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > > > 25th april, 1972 > > calcutta > > 6:30 p.m. > > > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so cannot > > say about future. > > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the age of > > 20 and the birth data is right. > > > > Again sorry about the error. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not getting > > Sun > > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 > > binuds. > > > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and then > I > > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years which > > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius lagna. > > > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make things > > a > > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > > > Husband > > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure give > > the > > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take any > > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will have a > > sun > > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > > different. > > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > > explain more on > > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > > know some > > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > > law which says > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > > mean that their > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > > my research it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 again a mistake..day for errorts today he got married in 2002 december. Manoshi , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > Well, the chart is of a male. He got married in 2003 december. > By profession he is a lawyer and got a job after struggle at the age > of 29. Is that enough information? But the marriage seems happy till > now. > Manoshi > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is 44.39 > deg > > and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary in > > navamsa. > > Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna v/s > 7th > > is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. > > She has 2 zeores in SAV. > > So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is > newly > > married so its in line. It might have happend in last sector. So > > marriage might have happened in last sector so after March/2004. > > Can u confirm the marriage date ? > > Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. > Sorry > > > about that. :-P > > > > > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > > > > > 25th april, 1972 > > > calcutta > > > 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so > cannot > > > say about future. > > > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the age > of > > > 20 and the birth data is right. > > > > > > Again sorry about the error. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not > getting > > > Sun > > > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 > > > binuds. > > > > > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and > then > > I > > > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years > which > > > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius > lagna. > > > > > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make > things > > > a > > > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married life. > > > > Husband > > > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure > give > > > the > > > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take > any > > > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will > have a > > > sun > > > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > > > different. > > > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > > > explain more on > > > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > > > know some > > > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > > > law which says > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > > > mean that their > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > > > my research it > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manoshi, Ok so first of all this is a male chart and second of all marriage is now in last sector of Venus. Let me ask this how sure are u of this birth time ? Cheers !!! Ash , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > again a mistake..day for errorts today > > he got married in 2002 december. > > Manoshi > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > Well, the chart is of a male. He got married in 2003 december. > > By profession he is a lawyer and got a job after struggle at the > age > > of 29. Is that enough information? But the marriage seems happy > till > > now. > > Manoshi > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is 44.39 > > deg > > > and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary in > > > navamsa. > > > Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna > v/s > > 7th > > > is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. > > > She has 2 zeores in SAV. > > > So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is > > newly > > > married so its in line. It might have happend in last sector. > So > > > marriage might have happened in last sector so after March/2004. > > > Can u confirm the marriage date ? > > > Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. > > Sorry > > > > about that. :-P > > > > > > > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > > > > > > > 25th april, 1972 > > > > calcutta > > > > 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so > > cannot > > > > say about future. > > > > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the > age > > of > > > > 20 and the birth data is right. > > > > > > > > Again sorry about the error. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not > > getting > > > > Sun > > > > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL 8 > > > > binuds. > > > > > > > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > > > > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and > > then > > > I > > > > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > > > > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years > > which > > > > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > > > > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > > > > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make > > things > > > > a > > > > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married > life. > > > > > Husband > > > > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure > > give > > > > the > > > > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take > > any > > > > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will > > have a > > > > sun > > > > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > > > > different. > > > > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > > > > explain more on > > > > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > > > > know some > > > > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > > > > law which says > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > > > > mean that their > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > > > > my research it > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Ash, Regarding the other conditions for having a paramour, Ve and Su difference greater than 43 seems like a valid reason. And if Sa aspects ve then the reason may be very strong. Apart from this are there any other reasons? Reasons mentioned in the lessons for divorce/separation cannot be applied, can they? A person may have a paramour without knowledge of the partner and married life may seem normal on the surface. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > > Ok so first of all this is a male chart and second of all marriage is > now in last sector of Venus. > Let me ask this how sure are u of this birth time ? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa> wrote: > > again a mistake..day for errorts today > > > > he got married in 2002 december. > > > > Manoshi > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > > Well, the chart is of a male. He got married in 2003 december. > > > By profession he is a lawyer and got a job after struggle at the > > age > > > of 29. Is that enough information? But the marriage seems happy > > till > > > now. > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is > 44.39 > > > deg > > > > and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary in > > > > navamsa. > > > > Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna > > v/s > > > 7th > > > > is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. > > > > She has 2 zeores in SAV. > > > > So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is > > > newly > > > > married so its in line. It might have happend in last sector. > > So > > > > marriage might have happened in last sector so after March/2004. > > > > Can u confirm the marriage date ? > > > > Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with lahiri. > > > Sorry > > > > > about that. :-P > > > > > > > > > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > > > > > > > > > 25th april, 1972 > > > > > calcutta > > > > > 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > > > > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so > > > cannot > > > > > say about future. > > > > > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the > > age > > > of > > > > > 20 and the birth data is right. > > > > > > > > > > Again sorry about the error. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not > > > getting > > > > > Sun > > > > > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with FULL > 8 > > > > > binuds. > > > > > > > > > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna and > > > then > > > > I > > > > > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > > > > > > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 years > > > which > > > > > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > > > > > > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with Sagittarius > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will make > > > things > > > > > a > > > > > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married > > life. > > > > > > Husband > > > > > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will sure > > > give > > > > > the > > > > > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just take > > > any > > > > > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You will > > > have a > > > > > sun > > > > > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > > > > > different. > > > > > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > > > > > explain more on > > > > > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > > > > > know some > > > > > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > > > > > law which says > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > > > > > mean that their > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > > > > > my research it > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Manu, Yes you are absolutely right, this is a very delicate topic and one has to use a lot of discretion. First thing, some problems must be there in a chart. For that we must analyse the chart. Say for example Venus and Mars are in one sign, Venus to sun is > 43 maybe and Sa aspects Venus and luminiary. At the same time points of 7th house are all hight and so for 12th house. Assume Venus is aspected by Guru then there are indications of multiple marriages or affairs. Here no points are low for 7th so there might not any seperation but maybe there might be affairs and it might be kept outside the marraige or sometimes even with concent of the partners. But such things are delicate. So Sun in 7th in male chart COULD show that wife might have a paramour. This law is not specifically given for FEMALE. Now a days things are different as it was back maybe when these laws were written. So I am trying to study such cases. But for that one HAS to study full chart make up. So I had asked if such things were known then I would like to study the same but with this law just as we studied other laws of Guru in libra, Venus in krittka, aadra, moola and nakshatras of sun, venus to sun distance >3deg or < 43 degress etc, 6th lord in 7th, Guru in lagna etc all laws given in lessons. In most cases we found it matchings across various countries. So these laws are global and can be applied to all charts. Guru is in libra for 1 year and maybe a few months in the fist 3deg20 then how come people with Guru in libra have some problems or other ? After doing quite a detailed study by Sandy, Kaimal, Donna, Margarita and others invariably it was found that in quite a lot of cases the laws held true. So now its nice if we can get into this delicate topic of Sun in 7th along with other factors. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Regarding the other conditions for having a paramour, Ve and Su > difference greater than 43 seems like a valid reason. > And if Sa aspects ve then the reason may be very strong. > > Apart from this are there any other reasons? > > Reasons mentioned in the lessons for divorce/separation cannot be > applied, can they? A person may have a paramour without knowledge of > the partner and married life may seem normal on the surface. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > Ok so first of all this is a male chart and second of all marriage > is > > now in last sector of Venus. > > Let me ask this how sure are u of this birth time ? > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > again a mistake..day for errorts today > > > > > > he got married in 2002 december. > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > Well, the chart is of a male. He got married in 2003 december. > > > > By profession he is a lawyer and got a job after struggle at > the > > > age > > > > of 29. Is that enough information? But the marriage seems happy > > > till > > > > now. > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > Ok, this is an intersting chart. Venus to sun distance is > > 44.39 > > > > deg > > > > > and Sa is conjoining Venus and Sa conjoins Moon a luminiary > in > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > Here Guru is 6th lord and its aspecting House B and C. Lagna > > > v/s > > > > 7th > > > > > is 31/16 points. So she is dominating. > > > > > She has 2 zeores in SAV. > > > > > So she may have married in Sun antra and you have said she is > > > > newly > > > > > married so its in line. It might have happend in last > sector. > > > So > > > > > marriage might have happened in last sector so after > March/2004. > > > > > Can u confirm the marriage date ? > > > > > Yes this is one chart u can observe for future. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > You are right. I am sorry the sun is in 6th even with > lahiri. > > > > Sorry > > > > > > about that. :-P > > > > > > > > > > > > ok here is another chart..with lahiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > 25th april, 1972 > > > > > > calcutta > > > > > > 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > > > > > > > The married life is good till now...newly married though so > > > > cannot > > > > > > say about future. > > > > > > ya the previous chart of the female ,she got married at the > > > age > > > > of > > > > > > 20 and the birth data is right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again sorry about the error. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > I casted the chart using Krushnas Ayanamsa and I am not > > > > getting > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > in 7th. In fact this peson has Sun in 6th house with > FULL > > 8 > > > > > > binuds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The points for 7th for Sagittarius lagna is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > > > 11 14 16 15 19 13 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I change the lagna by 10 minutes the I get sco lagna > and > > > > then > > > > > I > > > > > > > get zero in 2nd house and points for 7th house as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa > > > > > > > 11 10 3 1 9 10 23 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have said that the couple is married for past 35 > years > > > > which > > > > > > > means that the lady is marred at the age of 21. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With sco lagna I am getting delay and not with > Sagittarius > > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So here Sun is in 6th and not 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please cast the chart using Krushnas ayanamsa it will > make > > > > things > > > > > > a > > > > > > > bit easier on me. :=) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sure Ash. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 June 1948, Calcutta, 6:30 p.m. > > > > > > > > I know the couple very well. 35 years of happy married > > > life. > > > > > > > Husband > > > > > > > > never had any fancy woman in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know a few more but dont remember the dates. Will > sure > > > > give > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > details after I verify the birth data. Actually just > take > > > > any > > > > > > > > birthdata with time around 6:00 in the evening. You > will > > > > have a > > > > > > sun > > > > > > > > in the seventh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This law was mentioned by Krushnaji. In old times > > > > > > > > > such things were seen from Male chart as women were > > > > > > > > > home makers and " generally " not in workforce and > > > > > > > > > holding positions of authority. Now a days things are > > > > > > > > > different. > > > > > > > > > Please read my mail carefully. I have mentioned Sun > > > > > > > > > in 7th SUBJECT to other conditions could mean that > > > > > > > > > spouse could have a paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other laws you can refer to lesson on multiple > > > > > > > > > marraige, divorse charts, other special laws like > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra, venus in certain nakshatra, venus to > > > > > > > > > sun distance etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if you have such charts and know such data with > > > > > > > > > confidence we could discuss such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you get this law from? Could you please > > > > > > > > > > explain more on > > > > > > > > > > this? I know many people with sun in seventh... > > > > > > > > > > actually whoever > > > > > > > > > > born in the evening hours has a possibility of > > > > > > > > > > having Sun in 7th so > > > > > > > > > > does the law apply to everyone of them? > > > > > > > > > > Well I havent much knowledge about this paddhati but > > > > > > > > > > know some > > > > > > > > > > astrology so would love to know more about these > > > > > > > > > > LAWS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will keep a check for this pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > However, can you please let me know what are the > > > > > > > > > > other conditions > > > > > > > > > > > that should be checked for this matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing some research on a law. There is a > > > > > > > > > > law which says > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun in 7th for a male chart could imply that the > > > > > > > > > > wife has a > > > > > > > > > > > paramour > > > > > > > > > > > > subject to other conditions. These laws were > > > > > > > > > > written as per the > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > style in old times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to see the same combinations in > > > > > > > > > > female charts with > > > > > > > > > > > > respect to current times having Sun in 7th could > > > > > > > > > > mean that their > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > more possibility of their husbands having a > > > > > > > > > > paramour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During old times only male members worked and > > > > > > > > > > wifes generally > > > > > > > > > > > stayed > > > > > > > > > > > > home so such combinations or laws were given for > > > > > > > > > > male charts. > > > > > > > > > > > Today > > > > > > > > > > > > things are different so I would like to test > > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you all have any charts that could help me in > > > > > > > > > > my research it > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > be much appreciated and can be discussed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Ash and List, Just a very Gentle note - it should be read - venus to sun distance < 3 deg or > 43 degress rather than >3deg or < 43 Cheers!!!!! Sateesh. ======== - " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 Monday, August 02, 2004 3:02 AM Re: Sun in 7th---Ash : Dear Manu, : Yes you are absolutely right, this is a very delicate topic and one : has to use a lot of discretion. : So I had asked if such things were known then I would like to study : the same but with this law just as we studied other laws of Guru in : libra, Venus in krittka, aadra, moola and nakshatras of sun, venus to : sun distance >3deg or < 43 degress etc, 6th lord in 7th, Guru in : lagna etc all laws given in lessons. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release 30/07/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Dear Sateesh and list members, Yes u are right. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers !!! Ash , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Ash and List, > > Just a very Gentle note - it should be read - > > venus to sun distance < 3 deg or > 43 degress > > rather than > > >3deg or < 43 > > Cheers!!!!! > > Sateesh. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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