Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Dear Dadhi and Members, What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Good one Dadhi.... Thanks for bringing up this post. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > Dear members, > > Most jyotish lists are into current US Elections. It would be good time to use this for KAS excersise. > > I refer here to letter from Krushna, text 3679. > > According to transits, it seems that Bush will win. On 2nd November he'll have 190 points and next day 197. > > Kerry with 193 on day of election and 187 day after, does not look good. > > Any comment ? > > All the best, > Dadhi > > > > 3679 krushanain <krushanain> > > Sun May 12, 2002 0:29pm > > Re: India and mundane astrology > > > > > > Dear Denis, > > When we study a chart of a country, The overall position can > > be find from the transit of the planets. Here we should count the > > total points of the house (sign) in sarvastak. Thus total points from > > the transit of 7 planets the total of the points should not be less > > then 196. 196 points gives average result, More then 196 means better > > period, and less then 196 means some trouble. > > Suppose for the chart of any country in Arises total points are > > say 32, in Taurus say 19, Gemini say 24, Then if any planet is having > > its transit from Arises we should take 32 points, for Taurus 19 > > Gemini 24 and so on. If two planets are in one sign, then for each > > planet we count points. > > The share Market and overall condition of the business depends > > upon the condition and policy matters taken by the govt. These total > > points gives a good idea about the overall condition, So also market > > trend. > > For India if you find the points, Up to 9th of July points are > > satisfacory. after that it reduces and down trend continues upto next > > march. So I can say, after July 9th India will be going through a bad > > period. > > You can check from the charts of the Lionel Jospin and Jacques > > for the day of Election, I am confident, person win must have more > > points then other candidate. > > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Dear Ash, and other respected group members: Take a look at files section, Gore vs. Bush. Worksheet for Bush is there also. Although I can't stand the man, I beleive Bush will win overall. However, once re-elected I do not think he can complete the full term. Check out his worksheet, my understanding says his 5th house will be pivotal to tell the story. Regards, -Puneet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Dadhi and Members, > > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? > > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. > > Good one Dadhi.... Thanks for bringing up this post. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> > wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > Most jyotish lists are into current US Elections. It would be good > time to use this for KAS excersise. > > > > I refer here to letter from Krushna, text 3679. > > > > According to transits, it seems that Bush will win. On 2nd November > he'll have 190 points and next day 197. > > > > Kerry with 193 on day of election and 187 day after, does not look > good. > > > > Any comment ? > > > > All the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > 3679 krushanain <krushanain> > > > Sun May 12, 2002 0:29pm > > > Re: India and mundane astrology > > > > > > > > > Dear Denis, > > > When we study a chart of a country, The overall position can > > > be find from the transit of the planets. Here we should count the > > > total points of the house (sign) in sarvastak. Thus total points > from > > > the transit of 7 planets the total of the points should not be > less > > > then 196. 196 points gives average result, More then 196 means > better > > > period, and less then 196 means some trouble. > > > Suppose for the chart of any country in Arises total points are > > > say 32, in Taurus say 19, Gemini say 24, Then if any planet is > having > > > its transit from Arises we should take 32 points, for Taurus 19 > > > Gemini 24 and so on. If two planets are in one sign, then for each > > > planet we count points. > > > The share Market and overall condition of the business depends > > > upon the condition and policy matters taken by the govt. These > total > > > points gives a good idea about the overall condition, So also > market > > > trend. > > > For India if you find the points, Up to 9th of July points are > > > satisfacory. after that it reduces and down trend continues upto > next > > > march. So I can say, after July 9th India will be going through a > bad > > > period. > > > You can check from the charts of the Lionel Jospin and Jacques > > > for the day of Election, I am confident, person win must have more > > > points then other candidate. > > > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, Much appreciated. One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Thanks for displaying the points and the results are very intersting. Kerry - Good run from 21st Oct thru to 26th as points are on upward trend. Then on 26th the points drop from 202 to 198. At the same time Bush's points have a huge boost and his points on 26th to 27th bump up from 193 to 200. So 26th-27th keep an eye out for some favourable news coming for Bush. Then on 30th to 1st the points drop huge for Bush i.e from 203 to 190 at the same time the points rise for Kerry from 188 to 193. Now Kerry will feel better but both the points 188 and 193 are < 197. So he will feel better on the 1st as compared to 31 but still things may not go totally his way. For Bush the points go from 203 which is above 197 to 190 which is below. So things going smoothly for Bush will hit some problems and he will not feel super or good about it. So 30th-1st keep an eye out for some important news tilting more in favour of Kerry. So then going on to the election day Bush has 190 points and Kerry has 193. On 3rd Bush's points go up and Kerrys' down. Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for either ? Thanks Dadhi, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi vote. - Register online to vote today! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, An interesting picture emerges from the data. 3 Debates are showing in favour of Kerry. But is it going to be enough to change the minds of the voters beyond any doubt ? The news that may come 26th-27th for Bush that may be very significant and in favour of Bush. Cheers !!! Ash Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, Much appreciated. One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Thanks for displaying the points and the results are very intersting. Kerry - Good run from 21st Oct thru to 26th as points are on upward trend. Then on 26th the points drop from 202 to 198. At the same time Bush's points have a huge boost and his points on 26th to 27th bump up from 193 to 200. So 26th-27th keep an eye out for some favourable news coming for Bush. Then on 30th to 1st the points drop huge for Bush i.e from 203 to 190 at the same time the points rise for Kerry from 188 to 193. Now Kerry will feel better but both the points 188 and 193 are < 197. So he will feel better on the 1st as compared to 31 but still things may not go totally his way. For Bush the points go from 203 which is above 197 to 190 which is below. So things going smoothly for Bush will hit some problems and he will not feel super or good about it. So 30th-1st keep an eye out for some important news tilting more in favour of Kerry. So then going on to the election day Bush has 190 points and Kerry has 193. On 3rd Bush's points go up and Kerrys' down. Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for either ? Thanks Dadhi, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi vote. - Register online to vote today! vote. - Register online to vote today! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, I am printing the text from your mail. I gave it some thought. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ For the result of debate these poitns will show how both parties will feel the following day. The results and the feelings may go on for a few days after that where different people comment on who they think did better. So points not just for the next day but for the next few days post seeding the event could be more helpful. So as per the data of first debate the next day Kerry felt better than Bush. As per the 3rd debate I think both candidates have points that are on downward trend. So both might think that they could have done better in replying to their opponent in retrospect. Kerrys points are high i.e. greater than 197 so things will be in his control whereas for Bush it will be less than 197. So Kerry might feel from good to not so good and Bush may feel from bad to worst. In the 2nd debate, again Bush may come out feeling that he could have done better or should have done better and Kerry would feel that he did quite well and will feel better. The next few days after will show how the people feel and how that effects the points for both Bush and Kerry. For an analogy, just after giving a major exam the feeling one gets after giving it that gut feel is what the points may show just after the debate or the next morning after one sleeps over things and how they feel about the whole event the next morning. Here our assumption is that the result will be declared on the next day i.e. 3rd november. Is there a chance like last time where things may get prolonged ? Maybe we should also print points of both Bush and Kerry from say 3rd and for the next few days so get an idea. Some more thoughts. Will try and post if I get any more thought on the subject and if I have access to the net. Cheers !!! Ash Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, An interesting picture emerges from the data. 3 Debates are showing in favour of Kerry. But is it going to be enough to change the minds of the voters beyond any doubt ? The news that may come 26th-27th for Bush that may be very significant and in favour of Bush. Cheers !!! Ash Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, Much appreciated. One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Thanks for displaying the points and the results are very intersting. Kerry - Good run from 21st Oct thru to 26th as points are on upward trend. Then on 26th the points drop from 202 to 198. At the same time Bush's points have a huge boost and his points on 26th to 27th bump up from 193 to 200. So 26th-27th keep an eye out for some favourable news coming for Bush. Then on 30th to 1st the points drop huge for Bush i.e from 203 to 190 at the same time the points rise for Kerry from 188 to 193. Now Kerry will feel better but both the points 188 and 193 are < 197. So he will feel better on the 1st as compared to 31 but still things may not go totally his way. For Bush the points go from 203 which is above 197 to 190 which is below. So things going smoothly for Bush will hit some problems and he will not feel super or good about it. So 30th-1st keep an eye out for some important news tilting more in favour of Kerry. So then going on to the election day Bush has 190 points and Kerry has 193. On 3rd Bush's points go up and Kerrys' down. Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for either ? Thanks Dadhi, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi vote. - Register online to vote today! vote. - Register online to vote today! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Ash, Thank you for aditional, valuable points. > One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE> points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC> points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in> Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Yes, you are right. For Kerry, DBCE points (from 6th as B), are 26,28,34,32. For Bush, DBCE points (from 6th as B), are 29,30,35,38. > > Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents> for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for> either ?> In Kerry's chart, Rahu represents Mo and Me. Mo has 3 bindus in AV, and Me 6 points - Me is stronger and is situated in the 2nd house. In Bush's chart Rahu represents Ve and Ma. Ma is situated in the 2nd house with 3 points, and Ve has 5 bindus. Again, it seems that it is better situation for Bush, but fight with be quite tight. Thank you Ash for this point. All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 12:41 PM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi, Much appreciated. One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Thanks for displaying the points and the results are very intersting. Kerry - Good run from 21st Oct thru to 26th as points are on upward trend. Then on 26th the points drop from 202 to 198. At the same time Bush's points have a huge boost and his points on 26th to 27th bump up from 193 to 200. So 26th-27th keep an eye out for some favourable news coming for Bush. Then on 30th to 1st the points drop huge for Bush i.e from 203 to 190 at the same time the points rise for Kerry from 188 to 193. Now Kerry will feel better but both the points 188 and 193 are < 197. So he will feel better on the 1st as compared to 31 but still things may not go totally his way. For Bush the points go from 203 which is above 197 to 190 which is below. So things going smoothly for Bush will hit some problems and he will not feel super or good about it. So 30th-1st keep an eye out for some important news tilting more in favour of Kerry. So then going on to the election day Bush has 190 points and Kerry has 193. On 3rd Bush's points go up and Kerrys' down. Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for either ? Thanks Dadhi, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Ash, > Here our assumption is that the result will be declared on the next day> i.e. 3rd november. Is there a chance like last time where things may get> prolonged ?> > Maybe we should also print points of both Bush and Kerry from say 3rd and> for the next few days so get an idea.> Ok. Here it is: (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20th of November) Bush - 197,197,197,186,186,194,194,188,188,188-194,194,194,201,201,184,184,191,191 Kerry -187,187,187,197,197,195,195,188,188,188-188,188,188,187,187,182,182,188,188 According to this points, if elections on 2nd are without any trouble, Bush has better chances to win. However, if everything is prolonged - everything is possible. Look for some changes on 6th and 12th - both candidates may win. I would give some advantage to Bush. All he best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, What are the points for Kerry i.e .DBCE points from Moon. They were rising but less than 28 right ? Thanks, Cheers !!! AshDadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for aditional, valuable points. > One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE> points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC> points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in> Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Yes, you are right. For Kerry, DBCE points (from 6th as B), are 26,28,34,32. For Bush, DBCE points (from 6th as B), are 29,30,35,38. > > Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents> for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for> either ?> In Kerry's chart, Rahu represents Mo and Me. Mo has 3 bindus in AV, and Me 6 points - Me is stronger and is situated in the 2nd house. In Bush's chart Rahu represents Ve and Ma. Ma is situated in the 2nd house with 3 points, and Ve has 5 bindus. Again, it seems that it is better situation for Bush, but fight with be quite tight. Thank you Ash for this point. All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 12:41 PM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi, Much appreciated. One more thing that struck me that I also remember seeing that yes DBCE points of Kerry are rising from Moon as you pointed out but I guess DBC points or DB i.e. either 3:6:10 or 3:6 were less than 28 wheareas in Bush's case it all of them were above 28. Thanks for displaying the points and the results are very intersting. Kerry - Good run from 21st Oct thru to 26th as points are on upward trend. Then on 26th the points drop from 202 to 198. At the same time Bush's points have a huge boost and his points on 26th to 27th bump up from 193 to 200. So 26th-27th keep an eye out for some favourable news coming for Bush. Then on 30th to 1st the points drop huge for Bush i.e from 203 to 190 at the same time the points rise for Kerry from 188 to 193. Now Kerry will feel better but both the points 188 and 193 are < 197. So he will feel better on the 1st as compared to 31 but still things may not go totally his way. For Bush the points go from 203 which is above 197 to 190 which is below. So things going smoothly for Bush will hit some problems and he will not feel super or good about it. So 30th-1st keep an eye out for some important news tilting more in favour of Kerry. So then going on to the election day Bush has 190 points and Kerry has 193. On 3rd Bush's points go up and Kerrys' down. Suns is transitting Venus-Rahu. I do not remember what Rahu represents for both and their respective points. Is Rahu representing 2nd lord for either ? Thanks Dadhi, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash, Thank you for comment and some aditional points regarding elecions. > For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his> was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here> with the charts as I am going by my memory. It is from the Moon. > Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say> 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that> the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3> days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this> and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. Here it is - October and November (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,1,2,3) Bush - 177,177,192,192,193,193,200,200,203,203,203,190,190,197 Kerry - 198,198,202,202,202,202,198,198,195,195,188,193,193,187 All the best, Dadhi - Ash Friday, October 08, 2004 9:36 AM Re: Re: Bush and Kerry Dear Dadhi and members, I am sorry off late I do not have a lot of access to the net. I am right now I am in Geneva in Switzerland. I did note down the data last evening thanks to Dadhi and studied the mail and chart at night. I am going by my memory of the charts. I beleive Kerry is running antra of Mercury and his mercury is in 2nd house with more points (in SAV). So it will be a period of worry for him. At the same time I noticed also that in bushes chart his antra lord is Guru and he is in navamsa of Leo so SD to 2nd lord. Again showing that there will be worries in this antra for him. Another thing I noticed and found interesting in Bushes chart that from lagna his DBCE or 3:6:10:11 points are rising and all over 28 and also 10th points are high in SAV. I also beleive he has raj yogs. For Kerry his DBCE points are not rising from lagna but I do remember his was rising from either Sun or Moon. Maybe someone can help me out here with the charts as I am going by my memory. As per the points and as per Krushnajis mail it will be good to see how things unfold as per what Dadhi has written. Dadhi, I agree with your analysis. You have done a thorough analysis of points. I just wanted to mention something. Yes as per Bush's chart the points on 2nd and 3rd november are on a rising trend. So it seems that Bush will be in better mood the day after the elections as compared to Kerry whos points are on downward trend. Now if you just go back and study the points of Bush and Kerry from say 21st October to 3rd November it will show that (am going by memory) that the points for Bush shoot up and are on upward trend from 200 points for 3 days and then to 203 points for 2 days.) [Can someone please confirm this and note the points for both Bush and Kerry]. So it seems that there will be some sudden turn of events that may help Bush on 2nd November. So watch out for some sudden news that may tilt things in favour of Bush. If someone can do a transit point report for both we can see it at a glance and note down the exact dates when the points start to rise for bush. If memory serves me right also for kerry the points rise for a few days just after Oct 21st. Again if someone will confirm this it will be great. Dadhi has done a thorough analysis. Its clear and concice. I am glad that the first result of debate between Bush and Kerry is so clear using the points though we have done this after the event but atleast we can confirm the same and it matches well. I also beleive that people will be going to the polls soon in Australia. If someone knows the data of the candidates in Australia we can do a similar analysis and note it down here in the list. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi <denis wrote: Dear Ash and members, Here is data from other list. > What is the data of Kerry and Bush ? Bush, George W. Jr July 6, 1946 Time: 7:26:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" Kerry, John December 11, 1943 Time: 8:03:00 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21" > What is the data of Cheney and Edwards ? John Edwards (natal) June 10, 1953Time: 7:02:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 82 W 57' 12", 34 N 41' 08" Seneca, South Carolina, USA Dick Cheney (natal) - UNRECTIFIED January 30, 1941Time: 21:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 96 W 40' 00", 40 N 48' 00" Lincoln, Nebraska, USA > It would also be interesting to see the points after the debates. Regarding Bush and Kerry (and acording to the above TOB), first debate was on 30th of Semptember. Bush - 204 Kerry - 214 Kerry obviously had some advantage. ------------------- Second debate should be on 8th this month. Bush - 201 ( 9th October - 192) Kerry - 210 (9th October - 220) Here, Kerry should have some advantage. ------------------ Third debate should be on 13th this month. Bush - 192 (14th October - 186) Kerry - 211 (14th October - 204) After this debate, Kerry seems to be winner. ------------------ But, let's see .....Final test are votes on 2nd of November. Bush comes with 190 points into election day and next day has 197. Kerry with 193 on day of election is better, but 187 day after is not so good. If we look at Mahadasha/Antardasha of Bush and Kerry, we can see that Bush is in Saturn-Jupiter period. Jupiter is LoD and E, for 1,4,9,12 houses. For 10th as B, Sa and Me are LoD and LoE. Moon is in house E with high points (+ Ju). Kerry is in Mercury/Mercury period and Mercury is LoD and LoE for 2,3,6 and 11 houses. For 10th (Leo) as B, all three (A,B and C) are under influence of Saturn. Both antardasas in WS are strong for 10th (position, fame, success), but there is difference for the 1st house, (which is also conected with succes and failures) and here Bush is stronger (and btw, Ju is LoE for the 1st house). It seems that Bush is in better position. Maybe there are some other rules. Please comment if you have time... All the best, Dadhi vote. - Register online to vote today! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 > Dear Dadhi,> What are the points for Kerry i.e .DBCE points from Moon. They were> rising but less than 28 right ?> Thanks,> Cheers !!!> Ash> Right. They are 24,25,32,32. All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, Now we can wait and watch how things unfold. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > > > Dear Dadhi, > > What are the points for Kerry i.e .DBCE points from Moon. They were > > rising but less than 28 right ? > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Right. They are 24,25,32,32. > > All the best, > Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear Dadhi, Thanks. Now we can wait and watch how thigns unfold. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > > > Dear Dadhi, > > What are the points for Kerry i.e .DBCE points from Moon. They were > > rising but less than 28 right ? > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Right. They are 24,25,32,32. > > All the best, > Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Dear Dadhi and Members, When is the result of the elections going to be announced. Is it going to be on 2nd itself or 3rd Nov ? This could be very important. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash Dadhi, if you closely see the points for the 2nd it shows another , " Dadhi " <denis@d...> wrote: > > > Dear Dadhi, > > What are the points for Kerry i.e .DBCE points from Moon. They were > > rising but less than 28 right ? > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Right. They are 24,25,32,32. > > All the best, > Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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