Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st house matters along with 6th house indications. Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with more than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with 11th house indications. I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with more than 4 points. So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which one will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the above rule ? Thanks, Sameer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for 1st and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as a whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros in the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you also need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and afflictions. This shall help you determine the house status. You should also check the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the best answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to determine the effects as a whole. I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to learn how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to Ash to help us in every possible respect. All the best. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st house > matters along with 6th house indications. > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with more > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with 11th > house indications. > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with more > than 4 points. > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which one > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the above > rule ? > > > Thanks, > Sameer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Manu and Sameer, Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer given by you. As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for all 12 houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must undertsand what the points mean. At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. Maybe you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together so you may find it different. All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge how it will act for each house. Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be fulfilled. For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to pass the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD and LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are seeing that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed say in own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in first 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this moon act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. It will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its SD will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon will furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the antra of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the same time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is there then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she may also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. Moon with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just does happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we find the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper sector and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date finder or transit of sun. I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up ansewrthing this question in the past and it must be in the archives. I hope this clarifies. Cheers !!! AshManu Batura <manubatura wrote: Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for 1st and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th.So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as a whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros in the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you also need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and afflictions. This shall help you determine the house status. You should also check the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA.Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the best answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to determine the effects as a whole.I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to learn how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to Ash to help us in every possible respect.All the best.Thanks & Regards,Manu , "sameer_sawhney" wrote:> > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members,> > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st house > matters along with 6th house indications.> > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with more > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with 11th > house indications.> > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with more > than 4 points.> > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which one > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the above > rule ?> > > Thanks,> Sameer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Sameer, Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding 6th lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail closely. And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice and hard work. Cheers !!! Ash , Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer given by you. > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for all 12 houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must undertsand what the points mean. > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. Maybe you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together so you may find it different. > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge how it will act for each house. > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be fulfilled. For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to pass the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD and LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are seeing that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed say in own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in first 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this moon act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. It will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its SD will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon will furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the antra of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the same time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is there then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she may also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. Moon with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just does happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we find the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper sector and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date finder or transit of sun. > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up ansewrthing this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > I hope this clarifies. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for 1st > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as a > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros in > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you also > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and afflictions. > This shall help you determine the house status. You should also check > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the best > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to determine > the effects as a whole. > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to learn > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to Ash > to help us in every possible respect. > > All the best. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st house > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with more > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with 11th > > house indications. > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with more > > than 4 points. > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which one > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the above > > rule ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Sameer > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Ash, Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to read and learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point the nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that time. Thanks, Sameer , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Sameer, > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding 6th > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail closely. > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice and > hard work. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Ash <ashsam73> > wrote: > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer given > by you. > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for all 12 > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. Maybe > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together so > you may find it different. > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge how > it will act for each house. > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be fulfilled. > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to pass > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD and > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are seeing > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed say in > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in first > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this moon > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. It > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its SD > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon will > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the antra > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the same > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is there > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she may > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. Moon > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just does > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we find > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper sector > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date finder > or transit of sun. > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up ansewrthing > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for 1st > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as a > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros in > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you > also > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > afflictions. > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should also > check > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the > best > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > determine > > the effects as a whole. > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to > learn > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to Ash > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > All the best. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st > house > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with > more > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with 11th > > > house indications. > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with > more > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which > one > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the > above > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Sameer, Refer to Lesson 17. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to read and > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point the > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that time. > > > > Thanks, > Sameer > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding 6th > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail closely. > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice and > > hard work. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Ash > <ashsam73> > > wrote: > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer given > > by you. > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for all > 12 > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. > Maybe > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together so > > you may find it different. > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge > how > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > fulfilled. > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to pass > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD > and > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are > seeing > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed say > in > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in > first > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this > moon > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. It > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its SD > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon will > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the antra > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the same > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is there > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she > may > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. > Moon > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just > does > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we > find > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper sector > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date finder > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > ansewrthing > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for > 1st > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as > a > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros > in > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you > > also > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > afflictions. > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should also > > check > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the > > best > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > > determine > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to > > learn > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to > Ash > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st > > house > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with > > more > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with > 11th > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with > > more > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which > > one > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the > > above > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Sameer, I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me ending and that of Ketu starting. Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. This is given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for Exchanges with subject called " Turning Points " . Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD ending and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This period of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me curious. Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will enhance the first house being 12th lord. Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give result for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall in love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu did u face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or should I say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of one karaktwa and start of the other. Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to read and > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point the > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that time. > > > > Thanks, > Sameer > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding 6th > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail closely. > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice and > > hard work. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Ash > <ashsam73> > > wrote: > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer given > > by you. > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for all > 12 > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. > Maybe > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together so > > you may find it different. > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge > how > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > fulfilled. > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to pass > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD > and > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are > seeing > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed say > in > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in > first > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this > moon > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. It > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its SD > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon will > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the antra > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the same > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is there > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she > may > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. > Moon > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just > does > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we > find > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper sector > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date finder > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > ansewrthing > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for > 1st > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart as > a > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, zeros > in > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you > > also > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > afflictions. > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should also > > check > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide the > > best > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > > determine > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to > > learn > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to > Ash > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st > > house > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th with > > more > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with > 11th > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per Krushna's > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with > > more > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but which > > one > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the > > above > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Ash, On 24th April 2001 I lost my job due to poor economic conditions and it came as a big shock. However I gained a lot financially and that too was an un-expected event. Within one month I had three more offers and I moved to new work place in May'01. As an old student of SATVA I can easily co-relate the transits and operating sub-period with the above results. I am new to KAS and my intentions are not to test its efficacy but to learn more about it. Yes I met someone new during the Ketu/Ketu but it dint last long. Thanks, Sameer , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Sameer, > I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me > ending and that of Ketu starting. > Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. This is > given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for Exchanges with > subject called " Turning Points " . > > Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD ending > and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. > > Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This period > of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me curious. > > Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in > upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will enhance > the first house being 12th lord. > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give result > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. > > In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall in > love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. > > In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu did u > face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or should I > say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. > > I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of one > karaktwa and start of the other. > Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to read > and > > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will > > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point the > > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that time. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding > 6th > > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail closely. > > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice > and > > > hard work. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Ash > > <ashsam73> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer > given > > > by you. > > > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for > all > > 12 > > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must > > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. > > Maybe > > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses together > so > > > you may find it different. > > > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and judge > > how > > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > > fulfilled. > > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to > pass > > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e LoD > > and > > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the chart > > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are > > seeing > > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed > say > > in > > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets take > > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in > > first > > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus and > > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th to > > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this > > moon > > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for 7th. > It > > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its > SD > > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person is > > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon > will > > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the > antra > > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that Moon > > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the > same > > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and just > > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in 11th > > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a house > > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is > there > > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that she > > may > > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for 11th. > > Moon > > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th house. > > > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc just > > does > > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we > > find > > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper > sector > > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date > finder > > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > > ansewrthing > > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE for > > 1st > > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before you > > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart > as > > a > > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, > zeros > > in > > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses you > > > also > > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > > afflictions. > > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should also > > > check > > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide > the > > > best > > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > > > determine > > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need to > > > learn > > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks to > > Ash > > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and 1st > > > house > > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th > with > > > more > > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with > > 11th > > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per > Krushna's > > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house with > > > more > > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but > which > > > one > > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to the > > > above > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Sameer and Group, Thank you for your candid inputs. With this event I will rectify your time by 3 mins. I am casting your chart with birth time of 6:22 AM. Now that Sameer has given the answer I would like to do Post Event analysis and study where I went wrong so that I can learn from this experience Date Given : 21st April 2001. 1) Sameer said - He Job was lost and took it in a bad way. 2) Got 3 job offers within the month 3) Accepted a new job 4) Moved to New York 5) Gained Signficantly due to this job loss. WITH KAS this what I had said and I paste from my previous post. " > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > result > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. " Let us see if this fits into what Sameer has said. MD = Me (3rd and 12th lord) AD = Sa Sector = 3rd Suns Transit = Su/Ke (Ke = Ma). a) Sa antra has less points for 1, 5, 8, 9. b) Eager to give results for 2,3,10 and 11. c) Sa = SD to Venus who is LoE for 6th d) Sa + Ju transit at that point is 14. e) Sa is SD to Sun 2nd lord. f) Transit of sun is over sun (2nd lord) and Mars and for 6th house Su is having 12 points and Ma is having 11 points. The lowest 2 significator. g) Sa is placed in karak sthan for job with 3 bindus. Now ascimilating all the information together. 1) Me is Karak for 8th and 5th house so all antras will be related to the same in some way or the other. 2) Points that are low for 5th and 9th. 5th is karak for 10th and 9th is 12th from 10th. The native lost his job and got 3 offers and took the one and had to move to a new city so here 9th is triggering. 3) The antra lord is linked to 2nd lord. i.e Sa is SD to 2nd lord. So when Sun transits sign of leo or nak of sun then more worries during that time. Here at the time of loss of job the transit of sun was in the 2 lowest signficators for 6th house i.e. Sun and Ketu (mars). So definitly worries related to 6th house. 4) Venus is LoE for 6th house and is SD to Sa. With Sa and Ju poitns = 14 and Ve being LoE for 11th house and in upchaya from 4th house and is also in upchaya from 3rd house and its enhancing the 4th and 11th house. Here Sa is SD to Venus and so can step in for it. So native did not have any problems for getting the job. However with 9th having low points and its 12th from 10th and 5th having low points its Karak sthan for 10th is showing change in job. Here MD is Mercury so again its linked to 5th and 8th so could show suddeness in the events. Just shows I need more and more practice so back to the drawing board. Thanks for confirming the event of you meeting someone in Ketu/Ketu and the reasons why it did not last long is quite straight forward. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > On 24th April 2001 I lost my job due to poor economic conditions and > it came as a big shock. > > However I gained a lot financially and that too was an un-expected > event. > > Within one month I had three more offers and I moved to new work > place in May'01. > > As an old student of SATVA I can easily co-relate the transits and > operating sub-period with the above results. > > I am new to KAS and my intentions are not to test its efficacy but to > learn more about it. > > Yes I met someone new during the Ketu/Ketu but it dint last long. > > > Thanks, > Sameer > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, > > I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me > > ending and that of Ketu starting. > > Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. This > is > > given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for Exchanges > with > > subject called " Turning Points " . > > > > Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD > ending > > and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. > > > > Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This > period > > of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me curious. > > > > Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in > > upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will > enhance > > the first house being 12th lord. > > > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > result > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. > > > > In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall in > > love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. > > > > In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu did u > > face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or should > I > > say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. > > > > I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of one > > karaktwa and start of the other. > > Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to read > > and > > > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > > > > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will > > > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point > the > > > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail regarding > > 6th > > > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail > closely. > > > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for practice > > and > > > > hard work. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > <ashsam73> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer > > given > > > > by you. > > > > > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > > > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act for > > all > > > 12 > > > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you must > > > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are working. > > > Maybe > > > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses > together > > so > > > > you may find it different. > > > > > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and > judge > > > how > > > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > > > fulfilled. > > > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to > > pass > > > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e > LoD > > > and > > > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the > chart > > > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we are > > > seeing > > > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is placed > > say > > > in > > > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets > take > > > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is in > > > first > > > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus > and > > > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from 4th > to > > > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will this > > > moon > > > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for > 7th. > > It > > > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but its > > SD > > > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a person > is > > > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon > > will > > > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the > > antra > > > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that > Moon > > > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the > > same > > > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and > just > > > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in > 11th > > > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a > house > > > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is > > there > > > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that > she > > > may > > > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for > 11th. > > > Moon > > > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th > house. > > > > > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc > just > > > does > > > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once we > > > find > > > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper > > sector > > > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date > > finder > > > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > > > ansewrthing > > > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE > for > > > 1st > > > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before > you > > > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the chart > > as > > > a > > > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, > > zeros > > > in > > > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses > you > > > > also > > > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > > > afflictions. > > > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should > also > > > > check > > > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not provide > > the > > > > best > > > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > > > > determine > > > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still need > to > > > > learn > > > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And thanks > to > > > Ash > > > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and > 1st > > > > house > > > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th > > with > > > > more > > > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along with > > > 11th > > > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per > > Krushna's > > > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house > with > > > > more > > > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but > > which > > > > one > > > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to > the > > > > above > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Ash, The event date was 24th April'01 and I dint move to NY, just new job/work place. Do you still feel 3 min rectification is required ? I will go through your analaysis and come back with doubts later. Thanks, Sameer , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Sameer and Group, > > Thank you for your candid inputs. With this event I will rectify > your time by 3 mins. I am casting your chart with birth time of 6:22 > AM. > > Now that Sameer has given the answer I would like to do Post Event > analysis and study where I went wrong so that I can learn from this > experience > > Date Given : 21st April 2001. > > 1) Sameer said - He Job was lost and took it in a bad way. > 2) Got 3 job offers within the month > 3) Accepted a new job > 4) Moved to New York > 5) Gained Signficantly due to this job loss. > > > WITH KAS this what I had said and I paste from my previous post. > > " > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > result > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. " > > > Let us see if this fits into what Sameer has said. > > MD = Me (3rd and 12th lord) > AD = Sa > Sector = 3rd > Suns Transit = Su/Ke (Ke = Ma). > > a) Sa antra has less points for 1, 5, 8, 9. > b) Eager to give results for 2,3,10 and 11. > c) Sa = SD to Venus who is LoE for 6th > d) Sa + Ju transit at that point is 14. > e) Sa is SD to Sun 2nd lord. > f) Transit of sun is over sun (2nd lord) and Mars and for 6th house > Su is having 12 points and Ma is having 11 points. The lowest 2 > significator. > g) Sa is placed in karak sthan for job with 3 bindus. > > Now ascimilating all the information together. > > 1) Me is Karak for 8th and 5th house so all antras will be related to > the same in some way or the other. > > 2) Points that are low for 5th and 9th. 5th is karak for 10th and > 9th is 12th from 10th. The native lost his job and got 3 offers and > took the one and had to move to a new city so here 9th is triggering. > 3) The antra lord is linked to 2nd lord. i.e Sa is SD to 2nd lord. > So when Sun transits sign of leo or nak of sun then more worries > during that time. Here at the time of loss of job the transit of sun > was in the 2 lowest signficators for 6th house i.e. Sun and Ketu > (mars). So definitly worries related to 6th house. > > 4) Venus is LoE for 6th house and is SD to Sa. With Sa and Ju poitns > = 14 and Ve being LoE for 11th house and in upchaya from 4th house > and is also in upchaya from 3rd house and its enhancing the 4th and > 11th house. Here Sa is SD to Venus and so can step in for it. So > native did not have any problems for getting the job. However with > 9th having low points and its 12th from 10th and 5th having low > points its Karak sthan for 10th is showing change in job. Here MD is > Mercury so again its linked to 5th and 8th so could show suddeness in > the events. > > Just shows I need more and more practice so back to the drawing board. > > Thanks for confirming the event of you meeting someone in Ketu/Ketu > and the reasons why it did not last long is quite straight forward. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > On 24th April 2001 I lost my job due to poor economic conditions > and > > it came as a big shock. > > > > However I gained a lot financially and that too was an un- expected > > event. > > > > Within one month I had three more offers and I moved to new work > > place in May'01. > > > > As an old student of SATVA I can easily co-relate the transits and > > operating sub-period with the above results. > > > > I am new to KAS and my intentions are not to test its efficacy but > to > > learn more about it. > > > > Yes I met someone new during the Ketu/Ketu but it dint last long. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Sameer > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me > > > ending and that of Ketu starting. > > > Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. This > > is > > > given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for Exchanges > > with > > > subject called " Turning Points " . > > > > > > Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD > > ending > > > and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. > > > > > > Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This > > period > > > of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me curious. > > > > > > Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in > > > upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will > > enhance > > > the first house being 12th lord. > > > > > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > result > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. > > > > > > In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall > in > > > love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. > > > > > > In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu did > u > > > face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or > should > > I > > > say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. > > > > > > I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of one > > > karaktwa and start of the other. > > > Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to > read > > > and > > > > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > > > > > > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I will > > > > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin point > > the > > > > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at that > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail > regarding > > > 6th > > > > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail > > closely. > > > > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for > practice > > > and > > > > > hard work. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > <ashsam73> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good answer > > > given > > > > > by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. The > > > > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act > for > > > all > > > > 12 > > > > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you > must > > > > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are > working. > > > > Maybe > > > > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses > > together > > > so > > > > > you may find it different. > > > > > > > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and > > judge > > > > how > > > > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > > > > fulfilled. > > > > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes to > > > pass > > > > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord i.e > > LoD > > > > and > > > > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the > > chart > > > > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we > are > > > > seeing > > > > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is > placed > > > say > > > > in > > > > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. Lets > > take > > > > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon is > in > > > > first > > > > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more bindus > > and > > > > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from > 4th > > to > > > > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will > this > > > > moon > > > > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for > > 7th. > > > It > > > > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but > its > > > SD > > > > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a > person > > is > > > > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then moon > > > will > > > > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in the > > > antra > > > > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming that > > Moon > > > > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at the > > > same > > > > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and > > just > > > > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed in > > 11th > > > > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a > > house > > > > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female is > > > there > > > > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible that > > she > > > > may > > > > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for > > 11th. > > > > Moon > > > > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc > > just > > > > does > > > > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that once > we > > > > find > > > > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper > > > sector > > > > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable date > > > finder > > > > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > > > > ansewrthing > > > > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is LoE > > for > > > > 1st > > > > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, before > > you > > > > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the > chart > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV points, > > > zeros > > > > in > > > > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above houses > > you > > > > > also > > > > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > > > > afflictions. > > > > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You should > > also > > > > > check > > > > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not > provide > > > the > > > > > best > > > > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience to > > > > > determine > > > > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still > need > > to > > > > > learn > > > > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And > thanks > > to > > > > Ash > > > > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house and > > 1st > > > > > house > > > > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in 11th > > > with > > > > > more > > > > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along > with > > > > 11th > > > > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per > > > Krushna's > > > > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th house > > with > > > > > more > > > > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger but > > > which > > > > > one > > > > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements to > > the > > > > > above > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Sameer, Sa goes to 12th in Navamsa. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > The event date was 24th April'01 and I dint move to NY, just new > job/work place. > > Do you still feel 3 min rectification is required ? > > I will go through your analaysis and come back with doubts later. > > > Thanks, > Sameer > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer and Group, > > > > Thank you for your candid inputs. With this event I will rectify > > your time by 3 mins. I am casting your chart with birth time of > 6:22 > > AM. > > > > Now that Sameer has given the answer I would like to do Post Event > > analysis and study where I went wrong so that I can learn from this > > experience > > > > Date Given : 21st April 2001. > > > > 1) Sameer said - He Job was lost and took it in a bad way. > > 2) Got 3 job offers within the month > > 3) Accepted a new job > > 4) Moved to New York > > 5) Gained Signficantly due to this job loss. > > > > > > WITH KAS this what I had said and I paste from my previous post. > > > > " > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > > result > > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. " > > > > > > Let us see if this fits into what Sameer has said. > > > > MD = Me (3rd and 12th lord) > > AD = Sa > > Sector = 3rd > > Suns Transit = Su/Ke (Ke = Ma). > > > > a) Sa antra has less points for 1, 5, 8, 9. > > b) Eager to give results for 2,3,10 and 11. > > c) Sa = SD to Venus who is LoE for 6th > > d) Sa + Ju transit at that point is 14. > > e) Sa is SD to Sun 2nd lord. > > f) Transit of sun is over sun (2nd lord) and Mars and for 6th house > > Su is having 12 points and Ma is having 11 points. The lowest 2 > > significator. > > g) Sa is placed in karak sthan for job with 3 bindus. > > > > Now ascimilating all the information together. > > > > 1) Me is Karak for 8th and 5th house so all antras will be related > to > > the same in some way or the other. > > > > 2) Points that are low for 5th and 9th. 5th is karak for 10th and > > 9th is 12th from 10th. The native lost his job and got 3 offers > and > > took the one and had to move to a new city so here 9th is > triggering. > > 3) The antra lord is linked to 2nd lord. i.e Sa is SD to 2nd lord. > > So when Sun transits sign of leo or nak of sun then more worries > > during that time. Here at the time of loss of job the transit of > sun > > was in the 2 lowest signficators for 6th house i.e. Sun and Ketu > > (mars). So definitly worries related to 6th house. > > > > 4) Venus is LoE for 6th house and is SD to Sa. With Sa and Ju > poitns > > = 14 and Ve being LoE for 11th house and in upchaya from 4th house > > and is also in upchaya from 3rd house and its enhancing the 4th and > > 11th house. Here Sa is SD to Venus and so can step in for it. So > > native did not have any problems for getting the job. However with > > 9th having low points and its 12th from 10th and 5th having low > > points its Karak sthan for 10th is showing change in job. Here MD > is > > Mercury so again its linked to 5th and 8th so could show suddeness > in > > the events. > > > > Just shows I need more and more practice so back to the drawing > board. > > > > Thanks for confirming the event of you meeting someone in Ketu/Ketu > > and the reasons why it did not last long is quite straight forward. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > On 24th April 2001 I lost my job due to poor economic conditions > > and > > > it came as a big shock. > > > > > > However I gained a lot financially and that too was an un- > expected > > > event. > > > > > > Within one month I had three more offers and I moved to new work > > > place in May'01. > > > > > > As an old student of SATVA I can easily co-relate the transits > and > > > operating sub-period with the above results. > > > > > > I am new to KAS and my intentions are not to test its efficacy > but > > to > > > learn more about it. > > > > > > Yes I met someone new during the Ketu/Ketu but it dint last long. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me > > > > ending and that of Ketu starting. > > > > Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. > This > > > is > > > > given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for > Exchanges > > > with > > > > subject called " Turning Points " . > > > > > > > > Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD > > > ending > > > > and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. > > > > > > > > Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This > > > period > > > > of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me > curious. > > > > > > > > Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in > > > > upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will > > > enhance > > > > the first house being 12th lord. > > > > > > > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > > result > > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. > > > > > > > > In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall > > in > > > > love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. > > > > > > > > In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu > did > > u > > > > face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or > > should > > > I > > > > say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. > > > > > > > > I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of > one > > > > karaktwa and start of the other. > > > > Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to > > read > > > > and > > > > > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > > > > > > > > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I > will > > > > > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin > point > > > the > > > > > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at > that > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail > > regarding > > > > 6th > > > > > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail > > > closely. > > > > > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for > > practice > > > > and > > > > > > hard work. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > <ashsam73> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good > answer > > > > given > > > > > > by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. > The > > > > > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act > > for > > > > all > > > > > 12 > > > > > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you > > must > > > > > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are > > working. > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses > > > together > > > > so > > > > > > you may find it different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and > > > judge > > > > > how > > > > > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > > > > > fulfilled. > > > > > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes > to > > > > pass > > > > > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord > i.e > > > LoD > > > > > and > > > > > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > > > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the > > > chart > > > > > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we > > are > > > > > seeing > > > > > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is > > placed > > > > say > > > > > in > > > > > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. > Lets > > > take > > > > > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon > is > > in > > > > > first > > > > > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more > bindus > > > and > > > > > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from > > 4th > > > to > > > > > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will > > this > > > > > moon > > > > > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for > > > 7th. > > > > It > > > > > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but > > its > > > > SD > > > > > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a > > person > > > is > > > > > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then > moon > > > > will > > > > > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in > the > > > > antra > > > > > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming > that > > > Moon > > > > > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at > the > > > > same > > > > > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > > > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and > > > just > > > > > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed > in > > > 11th > > > > > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a > > > house > > > > > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female > is > > > > there > > > > > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible > that > > > she > > > > > may > > > > > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for > > > 11th. > > > > > Moon > > > > > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc > > > just > > > > > does > > > > > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that > once > > we > > > > > find > > > > > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper > > > > sector > > > > > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable > date > > > > finder > > > > > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > > > > > ansewrthing > > > > > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is > LoE > > > for > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, > before > > > you > > > > > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the > > chart > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV > points, > > > > zeros > > > > > in > > > > > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above > houses > > > you > > > > > > also > > > > > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > > > > > afflictions. > > > > > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You > should > > > also > > > > > > check > > > > > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not > > provide > > > > the > > > > > > best > > > > > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience > to > > > > > > determine > > > > > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still > > need > > > to > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And > > thanks > > > to > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house > and > > > 1st > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in > 11th > > > > with > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along > > with > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per > > > > Krushna's > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th > house > > > with > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger > but > > > > which > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements > to > > > the > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Sameer and Group, My appologies. Its been a long day. Yes You said New WORK and I read it as NEW YORK. 9th is 12th from 10th 5th is karak for 10th both are having low points. With time rectification Sa is in 12th in navamsa and in trik sthan. Sa+Ju is powerful for you with 14 poitns in april 2001. Sa is SD to Ve and also 2nd lord. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > The event date was 24th April'01 and I dint move to NY, just new > job/work place. > > Do you still feel 3 min rectification is required ? > > I will go through your analaysis and come back with doubts later. > > > Thanks, > Sameer > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer and Group, > > > > Thank you for your candid inputs. With this event I will rectify > > your time by 3 mins. I am casting your chart with birth time of > 6:22 > > AM. > > > > Now that Sameer has given the answer I would like to do Post Event > > analysis and study where I went wrong so that I can learn from this > > experience > > > > Date Given : 21st April 2001. > > > > 1) Sameer said - He Job was lost and took it in a bad way. > > 2) Got 3 job offers within the month > > 3) Accepted a new job > > 4) Moved to New York > > 5) Gained Signficantly due to this job loss. > > > > > > WITH KAS this what I had said and I paste from my previous post. > > > > " > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > > result > > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. " > > > > > > Let us see if this fits into what Sameer has said. > > > > MD = Me (3rd and 12th lord) > > AD = Sa > > Sector = 3rd > > Suns Transit = Su/Ke (Ke = Ma). > > > > a) Sa antra has less points for 1, 5, 8, 9. > > b) Eager to give results for 2,3,10 and 11. > > c) Sa = SD to Venus who is LoE for 6th > > d) Sa + Ju transit at that point is 14. > > e) Sa is SD to Sun 2nd lord. > > f) Transit of sun is over sun (2nd lord) and Mars and for 6th house > > Su is having 12 points and Ma is having 11 points. The lowest 2 > > significator. > > g) Sa is placed in karak sthan for job with 3 bindus. > > > > Now ascimilating all the information together. > > > > 1) Me is Karak for 8th and 5th house so all antras will be related > to > > the same in some way or the other. > > > > 2) Points that are low for 5th and 9th. 5th is karak for 10th and > > 9th is 12th from 10th. The native lost his job and got 3 offers > and > > took the one and had to move to a new city so here 9th is > triggering. > > 3) The antra lord is linked to 2nd lord. i.e Sa is SD to 2nd lord. > > So when Sun transits sign of leo or nak of sun then more worries > > during that time. Here at the time of loss of job the transit of > sun > > was in the 2 lowest signficators for 6th house i.e. Sun and Ketu > > (mars). So definitly worries related to 6th house. > > > > 4) Venus is LoE for 6th house and is SD to Sa. With Sa and Ju > poitns > > = 14 and Ve being LoE for 11th house and in upchaya from 4th house > > and is also in upchaya from 3rd house and its enhancing the 4th and > > 11th house. Here Sa is SD to Venus and so can step in for it. So > > native did not have any problems for getting the job. However with > > 9th having low points and its 12th from 10th and 5th having low > > points its Karak sthan for 10th is showing change in job. Here MD > is > > Mercury so again its linked to 5th and 8th so could show suddeness > in > > the events. > > > > Just shows I need more and more practice so back to the drawing > board. > > > > Thanks for confirming the event of you meeting someone in Ketu/Ketu > > and the reasons why it did not last long is quite straight forward. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > On 24th April 2001 I lost my job due to poor economic conditions > > and > > > it came as a big shock. > > > > > > However I gained a lot financially and that too was an un- > expected > > > event. > > > > > > Within one month I had three more offers and I moved to new work > > > place in May'01. > > > > > > As an old student of SATVA I can easily co-relate the transits > and > > > operating sub-period with the above results. > > > > > > I am new to KAS and my intentions are not to test its efficacy > but > > to > > > learn more about it. > > > > > > Yes I met someone new during the Ketu/Ketu but it dint last long. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > I noticed something. 24th April 2001 is very close to MD of Me > > > > ending and that of Ketu starting. > > > > Generally when that happens some major life changes happen. > This > > > is > > > > given by Krushnaji and you can search the archives for > Exchanges > > > with > > > > subject called " Turning Points " . > > > > > > > > Mahadasha shows us the karaktwa. 3rd lords and 12th lords MD > > > ending > > > > and that of Ketu who is SD to Ma and Ve is starting. > > > > > > > > Just before the MD starts the effects start to be felt. This > > > period > > > > of 21st April 2001 falls in that period. This got me > curious. > > > > > > > > Now Me is in 11th from 3rd so its status is enhanced being in > > > > upchaya. For 12th house its in its dhan sthan. Here it will > > > enhance > > > > the first house being 12th lord. > > > > > > > > Sa has less poitns for 1, 5, 8, 9th house. Its eager to give > > > result > > > > for 2, 3, 10 and 11. Sa can act for Venus. > > > > > > > > In Ketu/Ketu antra you might have met someone and probably fall > > in > > > > love i.e from june/2001 thru nov/2001. > > > > > > > > In Me/Sa and on 24th april 2001 when sun transitted sun/ketu > did > > u > > > > face any accident in which you probably did not get hurt or > > should > > > I > > > > say u came close to death but miraculously escaped. > > > > > > > > I am curious as this this date is very close to the ending of > one > > > > karaktwa and start of the other. > > > > Also can u comment on my observation of ketu/ketu antra. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > <icecoolsam@v...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed example and I guess I still need to > > read > > > > and > > > > > learn more before I can grasp all of the concepts practically. > > > > > > > > > > Something very significant to me on 24th April,2001 and I > will > > > > > appreciate if you can guide me on how to go ahead and pin > point > > > the > > > > > nature of exact event from the running dasa and antara at > that > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > > Additional things have been given by Manu in his mail > > regarding > > > > 6th > > > > > > lord, zeroes in SAV, transits etc. Please study his mail > > > closely. > > > > > > And finally I have to say. There is no substitute for > > practice > > > > and > > > > > > hard work. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > <ashsam73> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu and Sameer, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is a good question asked by Sameer and a good > answer > > > > given > > > > > > by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Manu said we need to see the chart from all angles. > The > > > > > > worksheet will give you at a glace how the planet will act > > for > > > > all > > > > > 12 > > > > > > houses but in the same breath I have to also say that you > > must > > > > > > undertsand what the points mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At any given time or an any antra all 12 houses are > > working. > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > you have not experienced the way to study all 12 houses > > > together > > > > so > > > > > > you may find it different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All 12 houses act and from the worksheet you can see and > > > judge > > > > > how > > > > > > it will act for each house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for any event to happen certain criteria should be > > > > > fulfilled. > > > > > > For example everytime the antra of lagna or 5th lord comes > to > > > > pass > > > > > > the person does not die. Everytime 12th lord or 4th lord > i.e > > > LoD > > > > > and > > > > > > LoE for 7th house comes the person does not get married. > > > > > > > Here criteria is that delay period should be over and the > > > chart > > > > > > should show a marriage or fulfill certain conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say LoD's antra is running and from the worksheet we > > are > > > > > seeing > > > > > > that it has more than 12 points for all 12 houses it is > > placed > > > > say > > > > > in > > > > > > own house with say more points here I mean > 4 bindus. > Lets > > > take > > > > > > Aries lagna, Moon in 4th house with say 5 bindus and moon > is > > in > > > > > first > > > > > > 3deg20 in cancer. Here Moon is in own house with more > bindus > > > and > > > > > > also in navamsa of cancer (I am assuming that moon is from > > 4th > > > to > > > > > > 10th house from sun and not afflicted by Rahu) so how will > > this > > > > > moon > > > > > > act ? Here this Moon is in Hosue E from 11th, House D for > > > 7th. > > > > It > > > > > > will not give result for 10th due to its aspect on 10th but > > its > > > > SD > > > > > > will give. So here find out the SD to Moon. Now say a > > person > > > is > > > > > > looking to get married and the delay period is over then > moon > > > > will > > > > > > furnish the timing of 7th hosue. Now at the same time in > the > > > > antra > > > > > > of Moon person will also make good income I am assuming > that > > > Moon > > > > > > also has good points in Worksheet for 11th house. Now at > the > > > > same > > > > > > time if if 12th house potnis in worksheet are also > > > > > > > high and say 4th house poitns are also high for moon and > > > just > > > > > > assume that Mahadasha of Shani or 11th or a planet placed > in > > > 11th > > > > > > house with more bindus is running then a person might buy a > > > house > > > > > > also in that antra and make it a home. If chart of female > is > > > > there > > > > > > then if she marries in antra of moon then quite possible > that > > > she > > > > > may > > > > > > also conceive in the same antra as LoD for 7th is LoE for > > > 11th. > > > > > Moon > > > > > > with high bindus in 4th house also holds karaktwa for 9th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now say an major event like marriage or buying a home etc > > > just > > > > > does > > > > > > happens then it just does not happen anytime. For that > once > > we > > > > > find > > > > > > the proper antra then we narrow it down using in the proper > > > > sector > > > > > > and further narrow it down i that sector using probable > date > > > > finder > > > > > > or transit of sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also beleive Krushnaji has given a detailed write up > > > > > ansewrthing > > > > > > this question in the past and it must be in the archives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this clarifies. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question Sameer. Ju is LoD for 9th and 12th. It is > LoE > > > for > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > and 4th. It is PiD for 2nd and PiE for 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So there are many houses that can trigger. However, > before > > > you > > > > > > > determine the events that can occur you need to see the > > chart > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > whole. What is the intelligence of the person, SAV > points, > > > > zeros > > > > > in > > > > > > > the chart, transit over zeros. For each of the above > houses > > > you > > > > > > also > > > > > > > need to check the FK and NK and check there strength and > > > > > > afflictions. > > > > > > > This shall help you determine the house status. You > should > > > also > > > > > > check > > > > > > > the Mahadasha lord. It is normally LoA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verbatim application of the individual rules may not > > provide > > > > the > > > > > > best > > > > > > > answers. We need to use our intelligence and experience > to > > > > > > determine > > > > > > > the effects as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep making mistakes with almost every chart. I still > > need > > > to > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > how to analyse the chart as a whole. I am trying. And > > thanks > > > to > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > to help us in every possible respect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Manu and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS,sub-period of 6th lord triggers 9th house > and > > > 1st > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > matters along with 6th house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further sub-period of 11th lord or planets placed in > 11th > > > > with > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than 4 points triggers 2nd and 6th house matters along > > with > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > house indications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be under Ju sub-period starting May-05 as per > > > > Krushna's > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa and Ju is 6th and 9th lord placed in 11th > house > > > with > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than 4 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So as per system, result of lot of houses can trigger > but > > > > which > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > will be most prominent. Are there further refinements > to > > > the > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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