Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, break in relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have come up with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: Navamsa, Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora chart. I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. Thanks Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Dear Ram, I think we do not check the zero points in navamsa and divisionals. Maybe Ash and Krushnaji can clarify. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " rtul2001 " <rtul2001> wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, > > Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, break in > relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have come up > with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: Navamsa, > Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora chart. > > I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. > > Thanks > Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Dear Manu and Ram, No all things are checked. We will wait to undertand the proper use with D charts once Krushnaji gives us a detailed lesson. Till then you are using it actually unknowingly. When you add the A+B+C points to make the WS for D chart what if either House A or B or C has a 0 point ? Similarly in Rashi chart also its considered in the worksheet when you add the basic strength. Say as per the previous chart given by Raji I beleive it had Sa with 0 points in the 7th house. Now 7th house is B for 7th, C for 3rd and A for 12th. So for these houses if you zoom into the Worksheet for these specific houses you will see that total basic strength might be less. Then after that u factor in the aspect etc. Now if Sa has 0 point in the 7th house then for 9th house this SA will aspect house A, B, C so this Sa will itself add 8+8+8 = 24 points to the 9th house. So Sa will become very strong for 9th house. Similary if Sa is in 5th house with say 0 point. [On another note Sa is the only planet that can give 0 point to the place where it is posted in.] So now this Saturn will delay marriage but at the same time this Sa will add 24 points (i.e. +8 aspect on House A, B and C) to the strength. If Sa is LoD or LoE then you will add additional 5 points so here 29 points are added by Sa if it in 5th house with 0 points and also lod or loe. This is only for 7th house. Then again 5th house is C for lagna, B for 5th and A for 10th. So for these house basic strength will reduce as one of these houses will get 0 points. Now in addition transit of malefics i.e. Sa and Ma over a house with 0 points will also cause problems... When say Sa gets 0 point for a house then it means that in SAV of that house i.e. lagna + 7 planets total will also become less as one of the planet has a 0 point. This will reflect on daily points that we use for finding the daily trend. If you check Rajis example the 7th house with Sa contributing 0 points the points are only 23 for 7th house. Now if more planets are there transitting over 7th house then daily points may fall to below 197 and esp if 6th house has high bindus then the points may fall drastically. So again this is use indirectly here. So dont worry, you are using a lot of things unknowingly. About worksheet for D chart we know the procedure to cast it so the 0 point is considered in the worksheet. Further portion on its use in D-Chart .. will wait for a detailed lesson. I hope that clarifies. Cheers !!! Ash ps : for those looking for the data that I have refenced in this mail its b'day - 19/5/1976 time - 0:15:00 zone - 5.5 lat - 8.11 long -77.29 , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Ram, > > I think we do not check the zero points in navamsa and divisionals. > Maybe Ash and Krushnaji can clarify. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , " rtul2001 " > <rtul2001> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, > > > > Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, break > in > > relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have come up > > with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: Navamsa, > > Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora chart. > > > > I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. > > > > Thanks > > Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Thanks Ash. This was very informative. Specially the high strength of 9th house for Raji's chart. I failed to notice that before. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu and Ram, > No all things are checked. We will wait to undertand the proper use > with D charts once Krushnaji gives us a detailed lesson. > > Till then you are using it actually unknowingly. > > When you add the A+B+C points to make the WS for D chart what if > either House A or B or C has a 0 point ? > > Similarly in Rashi chart also its considered in the worksheet when > you add the basic strength. > > Say as per the previous chart given by Raji I beleive it had Sa with > 0 points in the 7th house. Now 7th house is B for 7th, C for 3rd and > A for 12th. So for these houses if you zoom into the Worksheet for > these specific houses you will see that total basic strength might be > less. Then after that u factor in the aspect etc. > > Now if Sa has 0 point in the 7th house then for 9th house this SA > will aspect house A, B, C so this Sa will itself add 8+8+8 = 24 > points to the 9th house. So Sa will become very strong for 9th house. > > Similary if Sa is in 5th house with say 0 point. [On another note Sa > is the only planet that can give 0 point to the place where it is > posted in.] So now this Saturn will delay marriage but at the same > time this Sa will add 24 points (i.e. +8 aspect on House A, B and C) > to the strength. If Sa is LoD or LoE then you will add additional 5 > points so here 29 points are added by Sa if it in 5th house with 0 > points and also lod or loe. This is only for 7th house. Then again > 5th house is C for lagna, B for 5th and A for 10th. So for these > house basic strength will reduce as one of these houses will get 0 > points. > > Now in addition transit of malefics i.e. Sa and Ma over a house with > 0 points will also cause problems... > > When say Sa gets 0 point for a house then it means that in SAV of > that house i.e. lagna + 7 planets total will also become less as one > of the planet has a 0 point. > > This will reflect on daily points that we use for finding the daily > trend. > > If you check Rajis example the 7th house with Sa contributing 0 > points the points are only 23 for 7th house. Now if more planets are > there transitting over 7th house then daily points may fall to below > 197 and esp if 6th house has high bindus then the points may fall > drastically. So again this is use indirectly here. > > So dont worry, you are using a lot of things unknowingly. > > About worksheet for D chart we know the procedure to cast it so the 0 > point is considered in the worksheet. > > Further portion on its use in D-Chart .. will wait for a detailed > lesson. > > I hope that clarifies. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ps : for those looking for the data that I have refenced in this mail > its > b'day - 19/5/1976 > time - 0:15:00 > zone - 5.5 > lat - 8.11 > long -77.29 > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > I think we do not check the zero points in navamsa and divisionals. > > Maybe Ash and Krushnaji can clarify. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , " rtul2001 " > > <rtul2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, > > > > > > Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, > break > > in > > > relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have come > up > > > with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: Navamsa, > > > Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora chart. > > > > > > I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Dear Manu, This is always. Sa aspects house A,B,C for the 3rd house from where its placed. So Sa in 5th will delay 7th house matters and why ? Its because it aspects house A,B,C for the 3rd house its placed in. If Sa is with say 3 points then it will also aspect House A,B,C with 15 points. Now if Sa is with say 5 bindus then it will yank off -15 points from A,B,C. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > > Thanks Ash. This was very informative. Specially the high strength of > 9th house for Raji's chart. I failed to notice that before. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu and Ram, > > No all things are checked. We will wait to undertand the proper > use > > with D charts once Krushnaji gives us a detailed lesson. > > > > Till then you are using it actually unknowingly. > > > > When you add the A+B+C points to make the WS for D chart what if > > either House A or B or C has a 0 point ? > > > > Similarly in Rashi chart also its considered in the worksheet when > > you add the basic strength. > > > > Say as per the previous chart given by Raji I beleive it had Sa > with > > 0 points in the 7th house. Now 7th house is B for 7th, C for 3rd > and > > A for 12th. So for these houses if you zoom into the Worksheet for > > these specific houses you will see that total basic strength might > be > > less. Then after that u factor in the aspect etc. > > > > Now if Sa has 0 point in the 7th house then for 9th house this SA > > will aspect house A, B, C so this Sa will itself add 8+8+8 = 24 > > points to the 9th house. So Sa will become very strong for 9th > house. > > > > Similary if Sa is in 5th house with say 0 point. [On another note > Sa > > is the only planet that can give 0 point to the place where it is > > posted in.] So now this Saturn will delay marriage but at the same > > time this Sa will add 24 points (i.e. +8 aspect on House A, B and > C) > > to the strength. If Sa is LoD or LoE then you will add additional 5 > > points so here 29 points are added by Sa if it in 5th house with 0 > > points and also lod or loe. This is only for 7th house. Then > again > > 5th house is C for lagna, B for 5th and A for 10th. So for these > > house basic strength will reduce as one of these houses will get 0 > > points. > > > > Now in addition transit of malefics i.e. Sa and Ma over a house > with > > 0 points will also cause problems... > > > > When say Sa gets 0 point for a house then it means that in SAV of > > that house i.e. lagna + 7 planets total will also become less as > one > > of the planet has a 0 point. > > > > This will reflect on daily points that we use for finding the daily > > trend. > > > > If you check Rajis example the 7th house with Sa contributing 0 > > points the points are only 23 for 7th house. Now if more planets > are > > there transitting over 7th house then daily points may fall to > below > > 197 and esp if 6th house has high bindus then the points may fall > > drastically. So again this is use indirectly here. > > > > So dont worry, you are using a lot of things unknowingly. > > > > About worksheet for D chart we know the procedure to cast it so the > 0 > > point is considered in the worksheet. > > > > Further portion on its use in D-Chart .. will wait for a detailed > > lesson. > > > > I hope that clarifies. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ps : for those looking for the data that I have refenced in this > mail > > its > > b'day - 19/5/1976 > > time - 0:15:00 > > zone - 5.5 > > lat - 8.11 > > long -77.29 > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > I think we do not check the zero points in navamsa and > divisionals. > > > Maybe Ash and Krushnaji can clarify. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > , " rtul2001 " > > > <rtul2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, > > > > > > > > Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, > > break > > > in > > > > relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have come > > up > > > > with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: > Navamsa, > > > > Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora chart. > > > > > > > > I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Dear Manu, I said it will yank off -15 points from A,B,C .. its a mistake.. i meant that it will yank off -15 poitns for the 3rd house from where its placed. But I think u understood that. Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > This is always. Sa aspects house A,B,C for the 3rd house from where > its placed. > So Sa in 5th will delay 7th house matters and why ? Its because it > aspects house A,B,C for the 3rd house its placed in. > If Sa is with say 3 points then it will also aspect House A,B,C with > 15 points. Now if Sa is with say 5 bindus then it will yank off - 15 > points from A,B,C. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash. This was very informative. Specially the high strength > of > > 9th house for Raji's chart. I failed to notice that before. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu and Ram, > > > No all things are checked. We will wait to undertand the proper > > use > > > with D charts once Krushnaji gives us a detailed lesson. > > > > > > Till then you are using it actually unknowingly. > > > > > > When you add the A+B+C points to make the WS for D chart what if > > > either House A or B or C has a 0 point ? > > > > > > Similarly in Rashi chart also its considered in the worksheet > when > > > you add the basic strength. > > > > > > Say as per the previous chart given by Raji I beleive it had Sa > > with > > > 0 points in the 7th house. Now 7th house is B for 7th, C for 3rd > > and > > > A for 12th. So for these houses if you zoom into the Worksheet > for > > > these specific houses you will see that total basic strength > might > > be > > > less. Then after that u factor in the aspect etc. > > > > > > Now if Sa has 0 point in the 7th house then for 9th house this SA > > > will aspect house A, B, C so this Sa will itself add 8+8+8 = 24 > > > points to the 9th house. So Sa will become very strong for 9th > > house. > > > > > > Similary if Sa is in 5th house with say 0 point. [On another > note > > Sa > > > is the only planet that can give 0 point to the place where it is > > > posted in.] So now this Saturn will delay marriage but at the > same > > > time this Sa will add 24 points (i.e. +8 aspect on House A, B and > > C) > > > to the strength. If Sa is LoD or LoE then you will add additional > 5 > > > points so here 29 points are added by Sa if it in 5th house with > 0 > > > points and also lod or loe. This is only for 7th house. Then > > again > > > 5th house is C for lagna, B for 5th and A for 10th. So for these > > > house basic strength will reduce as one of these houses will get > 0 > > > points. > > > > > > Now in addition transit of malefics i.e. Sa and Ma over a house > > with > > > 0 points will also cause problems... > > > > > > When say Sa gets 0 point for a house then it means that in SAV of > > > that house i.e. lagna + 7 planets total will also become less as > > one > > > of the planet has a 0 point. > > > > > > This will reflect on daily points that we use for finding the > daily > > > trend. > > > > > > If you check Rajis example the 7th house with Sa contributing 0 > > > points the points are only 23 for 7th house. Now if more planets > > are > > > there transitting over 7th house then daily points may fall to > > below > > > 197 and esp if 6th house has high bindus then the points may fall > > > drastically. So again this is use indirectly here. > > > > > > So dont worry, you are using a lot of things unknowingly. > > > > > > About worksheet for D chart we know the procedure to cast it so > the > > 0 > > > point is considered in the worksheet. > > > > > > Further portion on its use in D-Chart .. will wait for a detailed > > > lesson. > > > > > > I hope that clarifies. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > ps : for those looking for the data that I have refenced in this > > mail > > > its > > > b'day - 19/5/1976 > > > time - 0:15:00 > > > zone - 5.5 > > > lat - 8.11 > > > long -77.29 > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ram, > > > > > > > > I think we do not check the zero points in navamsa and > > divisionals. > > > > Maybe Ash and Krushnaji can clarify. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " rtul2001 " > > > > <rtul2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash and learned members, > > > > > > > > > > Zero points in BAV for rasi can give some clues for mariage, > > > break > > > > in > > > > > relationship etc.. I was wondering if learned members have > come > > > up > > > > > with observations on the BAV points in diffent D charts: > > Navamsa, > > > > > Dasamsha etc for example Sa gives zero pt in 8th in Hora > chart. > > > > > > > > > > I'll be glad to learn more on BAV and SAV for D charts. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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