Request for analysis of this horoscope. - to Ash

November 16, 2004

Ash,

I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some time

in explaining this to me?

" Mars is 12th from 5th. "

Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect progeny, am

I right?

" it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are less?

" Moon has 18 points for 5th "

Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

>

> Dear Raji,

>

> Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector in

antra

> of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

sector

> but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

>

> Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for 5th

> house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon

> aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for 5th

and

> Sa is LoD for 5th.

>

> Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period.

>

> I wish the native well.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " raji1153 "

> <raji1153> wrote:

> >

> > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like to

say

> a

> > couple of things about this native.

> >

> > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long

> struggle.

> > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She led a

life

> > of protected childhood all through her teens and college life.

> > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been her

> > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second job

took

> > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and home

and

> is

> > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go to

> > hometown.

> >

> > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour, and

hence

> > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also feel

> that

> > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> >

> > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

colleague.

> > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however are

not

> > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There is

> > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But will

> they

> > wait is yet to be seen.

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raji,

> > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as

some

> > write

> > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > >

> > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go

> verbatim

> > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can say

> > > psychological factors.

> > >

> > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic kind.

Even

> > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm this.

If

> > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what she

is

> > > thinking she might not like that ...

> >

> > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that

should

> > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact prefers

guys

> > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose her

> > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> >

> > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in

proper

> > > place or might not be very particular about how she dresses up

> > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know her.

Keeps

> > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up

quarrel

> > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the cupboard.

> Yes,

> > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > fashionable.

> >

> > >

> > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might think

that

> > she

> > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone compromise.

> >

> > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > >

> > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time) will

> rise

> > to

> > > prominent position of authority or will do her own business.

She

> > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses oppose

her

> > she

> > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> >

> > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better quality

of

> > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.

> >

> > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

obsessive

> > about

> > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she finishes

> the

> > > tasks she takes up.

> >

> > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a

> > perfectionist.

> >

> > >

> > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be very

> > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take care

> she

> > > will walk off....

> >

> > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen her

> > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her present

date

> > share a very special relationship I guess. However the details

are

> > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> >

> > >

> > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> >

> > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to her

and

> > well placed and very good at his job.

> > >

> > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets. Now

also

> > most

> > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person

itself

> > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in

> > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > accepting/beleive them.

> >

> > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits temples.not

> > superstitious though.

> > >

> > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any

chart.

> > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> >

> > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > >

> > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK for

> > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and being

> > aspected

> > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > >

> > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might be

so

> > busy

> > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have time

for

> > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might not

> last

> > > long ...

> > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> >

> > >

> > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some more

> > > clarity...

> > >

> > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " raji1153 "

> > > <raji1153> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points satisfying,

right?

> > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > >

> > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > marriage

> > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between

Lagna

> > lord

> > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and Sun

> Sign

> > > and

> > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to come to

a

> > > > conclusion at all.

> > > >

> > > > , Ash

> > > <ashsam73>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > Pi

> > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1 Pi

> > 42Purva

> > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi 49RevatiMeCpSa13 Vi

> > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > >

> > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > >

> > > > > My analysis is

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in d3, d9

and

> > > > trishansha.

> > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and is

> > aspected

> > > by

> > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status and

point

> 7

> > > and

> > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in any 1

> house

> > > and

> > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives no

> > > marriage "

> > > > >

> > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and its

> > aspected

> > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination. So u

get

> > Ve,

> > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same or

> does

> > > the

> > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1 sign

and

> > Sa

> > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > >

> > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order and

all

> > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > independent,

> > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > >

> > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and having a

> lot

> > of

> > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > >

> > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart either ...

> > lagna

> > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with adjusment...

> > > > >

> > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all these

> > factors ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely difficult

> > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th

house.

> > All

> > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope with

> > planets

> > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

somebody

> > be

> > > > kind

> > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > ------------------

> > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > >

> > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics engineering

> > > Graduate.

> > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to a

> > different

> > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > >

> > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please also

> > mention

> > > > if

> > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage. Also,

give

> > the

> > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

specify

> > with

> > > > > date - NA

> > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of birth -

NA

> > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > >

November 17, 2004

Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your question is infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

Here I wrote things in short cut.

I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It would give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and other members if they have time can also guide you.

It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in the discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time I request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the lessons so he/she can follow.

Cheers !!!

Ash

raji1153 <raji1153 wrote:

Ash,I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some time in explaining this to me?"Mars is 12th from 5th."Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage? Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect progeny, am I right?"it(Mars) has less points for 5th "Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are less?"Moon has 18 points for 5th "Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning... , "ashsam73" wrote:> > Dear Raji,> > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector in antra > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

sector > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector. > > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for 5th > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for 5th and > Sa is LoD for 5th.> > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period. > > I wish the native well.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > , "raji1153" > wrote:> > > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like to say > a > > couple of things about this native. > > > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long > struggle. > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She led a life > > of protected childhood all through her

teens and college life. > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been her > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second job took > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and home and > is > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go to > > hometown.> > > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour, and hence > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also feel > that > > their egos are hurt with her statements. > > > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex colleague. > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however are not > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There is > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But will > they > > wait

is yet to be seen.> > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Raji,> > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as some > > write > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.> > > > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go > verbatim > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can say > > > psychological factors.> > > > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic kind. Even > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm this. If > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what she is > > > thinking she might not like that ...> > > >

Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that should > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact prefers guys > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose her > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.> > > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in proper > > > place or might not be very particular about how she dresses up > > > either. Again can you please confirm this... > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know her. Keeps > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up quarrel > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the cupboard. > Yes, > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very > > fashionable. > > > > > > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might

think that > > she > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone compromise. > > > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others. > > > > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time) will > rise > > to > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own business. She > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses oppose her > > she > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs. > > > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better quality of > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.> > > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be obsessive > > about > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she finishes > the > > > tasks she takes up.

> > > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a > > perfectionist.> > > > > > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be very > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take care > she > > > will walk off....> > > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen her > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her present date > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the details are > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.> > > > > > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.> > > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to her and > > well placed and very good at his job.> > > > > > Also 6th lord

is conjoining and aspecting all planets. Now also > > most > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person itself > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before > > > accepting/beleive them.> > > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits temples.not > > superstitious though.> > > > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any chart. > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.> > > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father. > > > > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK for > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and being > > aspected > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars. > > > >

> > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might be so > > busy > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have time for > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might not > last > > > long ...> > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.> > > > > > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some more > > > clarity... > > > > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > , "raji1153" > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points satisfying, right?> > > > I could not find a single point

satisfying. > > > > > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing > > marriage > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between Lagna > > lord > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and Sun > Sign > > > and > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to come to a > > > > conclusion at all. > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,> > > > > > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.> > > > > > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp 31DhanisthaMaViSu22 > > Pi > > > >

27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1 Pi > > 42Purva > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi 49RevatiMeCpSa13 Vi > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?> > > > > > > > > > My analysis is > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46. > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in d3, d9 and > > > > trishansha.> > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and is > > aspected > > > by > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.> > > > > > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status and point > 7 > > > and

> > > > I quote it says "When Venus and Moon are situated in any 1 > house > > > and > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives no > > > marriage" > > > > > > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and its > > aspected > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination. So u get > > Ve, > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same or > does > > > the > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1 sign and > > Sa > > > > and Ma in 7th ?> > > > > > > > > > Can you please clarify ?> > > > > > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order and all > > > > points of 10th and

11th . Good income and authority, > > independent, > > > > head strong / adament.....> > > > > > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and having a > lot > > of > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..> > > > > > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart either ... > > lagna > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with adjusment... > > > > > > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all these > > factors ?> > > > > > > > > > Can you please guide....> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > raji1153 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear learned members,> > > > > > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely difficult > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th house. > > All > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope with > > planets > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will somebody > > be > > > > kind > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...> > > > > > > > > > Birth Details :> > > > > ------------------> > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.> > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM> > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.> >

> > > Gender : Female.> > > > > > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics engineering > > > Graduate.> > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.> > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to a > > different > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.> > > > > > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please also > > mention > > > > if > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage. Also, give > > the > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.> > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please specify > > with > > > > > date - NA> > >

> > - If there are children, then give their dates of birth - NA> > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.> > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 17, 2004

I have read in the lessons that unhappy marriages or relations begin

in the subperiod of planets with lowest points. But I couldn't

really place it in the chart I gave for you to analyse. If not Ash,

I request learned members like Manu and Dadhi to explain this to me

in detail.

, Ash <ashsam73>

wrote:

> Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

>

> I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your question is

infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

>

> Here I wrote things in short cut.

>

> I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It would

give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events

happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and other

members if they have time can also guide you.

>

> It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

>

> I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

>

> I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in the

discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time I

request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

lessons so he/she can follow.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

>

> Ash,

>

> I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some time

> in explaining this to me?

>

> " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect progeny,

am

> I right?

>

> " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are less?

>

> " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

>

> Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raji,

> >

> > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector in

> antra

> > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> sector

> > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> >

> > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for 5th

> > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon

> > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for 5th

> and

> > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> >

> > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period.

> >

> > I wish the native well.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " raji1153 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like to

> say

> > a

> > > couple of things about this native.

> > >

> > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long

> > struggle.

> > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She led a

> life

> > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college life.

> > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been her

> > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second job

> took

> > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and home

> and

> > is

> > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go to

> > > hometown.

> > >

> > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour, and

> hence

> > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also

feel

> > that

> > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > >

> > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> colleague.

> > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however are

> not

> > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There is

> > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But

will

> > they

> > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as

> some

> > > write

> > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go

> > verbatim

> > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can say

> > > > psychological factors.

> > > >

> > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic kind.

> Even

> > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm this.

> If

> > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what

she

> is

> > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > >

> > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that

> should

> > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact prefers

> guys

> > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose her

> > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > >

> > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in

> proper

> > > > place or might not be very particular about how she dresses

up

> > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know her.

> Keeps

> > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up

> quarrel

> > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the

cupboard.

> > Yes,

> > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > fashionable.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might think

> that

> > > she

> > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone

compromise.

> > >

> > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > >

> > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time)

will

> > rise

> > > to

> > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own business.

> She

> > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses oppose

> her

> > > she

> > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > >

> > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better quality

> of

> > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.

> > >

> > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> obsessive

> > > about

> > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

finishes

> > the

> > > > tasks she takes up.

> > >

> > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a

> > > perfectionist.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be

very

> > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take

care

> > she

> > > > will walk off....

> > >

> > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen her

> > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her present

> date

> > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the details

> are

> > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > >

> > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to

her

> and

> > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > >

> > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets. Now

> also

> > > most

> > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person

> itself

> > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in

> > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > >

> > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

temples.not

> > > superstitious though.

> > > >

> > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any

> chart.

> > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > >

> > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > >

> > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK

for

> > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and being

> > > aspected

> > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might be

> so

> > > busy

> > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have time

> for

> > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might not

> > last

> > > > long ...

> > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some

more

> > > > clarity...

> > > >

> > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " raji1153 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points satisfying,

> right?

> > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > >

> > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > marriage

> > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between

> Lagna

> > > lord

> > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and

Sun

> > Sign

> > > > and

> > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to come

to

> a

> > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > Pi

> > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1 Pi

> > > 42Purva

> > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi 49RevatiMeCpSa13

Vi

> > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in d3,

d9

> and

> > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and is

> > > aspected

> > > > by

> > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status and

> point

> > 7

> > > > and

> > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in any 1

> > house

> > > > and

> > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives no

> > > > marriage "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and its

> > > aspected

> > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination. So u

> get

> > > Ve,

> > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same or

> > does

> > > > the

> > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1

sign

> and

> > > Sa

> > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order and

> all

> > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > independent,

> > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and having

a

> > lot

> > > of

> > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart

either ...

> > > lagna

> > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with adjusment...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all these

> > > factors ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

difficult

> > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th

> house.

> > > All

> > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope with

> > > planets

> > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

> somebody

> > > be

> > > > > kind

> > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics

engineering

> > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to a

> > > different

> > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please also

> > > mention

> > > > > if

> > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage. Also,

> give

> > > the

> > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

> specify

> > > with

> > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of birth -

> NA

> > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

November 17, 2004

Dear Raji,

Ash has given a good suggestion. Please see Kalavathi's chart. You

would understand why marriage happened in that antra.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Ash <ashsam73>

wrote:

> Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

>

> I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your question is

infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

>

> Here I wrote things in short cut.

>

> I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It would

give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events

happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and other

members if they have time can also guide you.

>

> It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

>

> I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

>

> I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in the

discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time I

request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

lessons so he/she can follow.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

>

> Ash,

>

> I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some time

> in explaining this to me?

>

> " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect progeny,

am

> I right?

>

> " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are less?

>

> " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

>

> Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raji,

> >

> > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector in

> antra

> > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> sector

> > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> >

> > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for 5th

> > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon

> > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for 5th

> and

> > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> >

> > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period.

> >

> > I wish the native well.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " raji1153 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like to

> say

> > a

> > > couple of things about this native.

> > >

> > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long

> > struggle.

> > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She led a

> life

> > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college life.

> > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been her

> > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second job

> took

> > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and home

> and

> > is

> > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go to

> > > hometown.

> > >

> > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour, and

> hence

> > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also feel

> > that

> > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > >

> > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> colleague.

> > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however are

> not

> > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There is

> > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But will

> > they

> > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as

> some

> > > write

> > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go

> > verbatim

> > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can say

> > > > psychological factors.

> > > >

> > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic kind.

> Even

> > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm this.

> If

> > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what she

> is

> > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > >

> > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that

> should

> > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact prefers

> guys

> > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose her

> > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > >

> > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in

> proper

> > > > place or might not be very particular about how she dresses

up

> > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know her.

> Keeps

> > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up

> quarrel

> > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the cupboard.

> > Yes,

> > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > fashionable.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might think

> that

> > > she

> > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone compromise.

> > >

> > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > >

> > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time) will

> > rise

> > > to

> > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own business.

> She

> > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses oppose

> her

> > > she

> > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > >

> > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better quality

> of

> > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.

> > >

> > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> obsessive

> > > about

> > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

finishes

> > the

> > > > tasks she takes up.

> > >

> > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a

> > > perfectionist.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be very

> > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take care

> > she

> > > > will walk off....

> > >

> > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen her

> > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her present

> date

> > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the details

> are

> > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > >

> > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to her

> and

> > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > >

> > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets. Now

> also

> > > most

> > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person

> itself

> > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in

> > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > >

> > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

temples.not

> > > superstitious though.

> > > >

> > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any

> chart.

> > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > >

> > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > >

> > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK for

> > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and being

> > > aspected

> > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might be

> so

> > > busy

> > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have time

> for

> > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might not

> > last

> > > > long ...

> > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some

more

> > > > clarity...

> > > >

> > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " raji1153 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points satisfying,

> right?

> > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > >

> > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > marriage

> > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between

> Lagna

> > > lord

> > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and Sun

> > Sign

> > > > and

> > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to come to

> a

> > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > Pi

> > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1 Pi

> > > 42Purva

> > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi 49RevatiMeCpSa13

Vi

> > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in d3, d9

> and

> > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and is

> > > aspected

> > > > by

> > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status and

> point

> > 7

> > > > and

> > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in any 1

> > house

> > > > and

> > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives no

> > > > marriage "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and its

> > > aspected

> > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination. So u

> get

> > > Ve,

> > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same or

> > does

> > > > the

> > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1 sign

> and

> > > Sa

> > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order and

> all

> > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > independent,

> > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and having

a

> > lot

> > > of

> > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart either ...

> > > lagna

> > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with adjusment...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all these

> > > factors ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

difficult

> > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th

> house.

> > > All

> > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope with

> > > planets

> > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

> somebody

> > > be

> > > > > kind

> > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics engineering

> > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to a

> > > different

> > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please also

> > > mention

> > > > > if

> > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage. Also,

> give

> > > the

> > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

> specify

> > > with

> > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of birth -

> NA

> > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

November 17, 2004

Yes, I have gone through kalavati's horoscope and understtod the

reason of the divorce of the first marriage. But, here with the

horoscope I presented, Ash, has been giving his analysis on the

basis of 5th house. That is what I couldn't follow.

Could you please explain that to me.

I would like to present the birth details and the related events

again..

DOB : 5th April, 1981

TOB : 03:30 AM

POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

First job : Oct2002.

In a serious relationship since Feb-Mar 2003.

Terrible opposition from parents.

Currently running the Ve/Ra dasha. Ra is SD to the Moon and Saturn.

So, if marriage happens in the sub-period of Ra, will is sustain?

In the worksheet for the 7th house, the points are as follows :

Ve 28

Me 26

Sa 23

Su 17

Ju 14

Ma 7

Mo 5

Thanks in advance.

Raji.

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

>

> Dear Raji,

>

> Ash has given a good suggestion. Please see Kalavathi's chart. You

> would understand why marriage happened in that antra.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Ash

> wrote:

> > Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

> >

> > I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your question

is

> infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

> >

> > Here I wrote things in short cut.

> >

> > I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It

would

> give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events

> happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and other

> members if they have time can also guide you.

> >

> > It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

> >

> > I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

> question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

> >

> > I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in the

> discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time I

> request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

> lessons so he/she can follow.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

> >

> > Ash,

> >

> > I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some time

> > in explaining this to me?

> >

> > " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> > Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> > Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect

progeny,

> am

> > I right?

> >

> > " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> > Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> > worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are

less?

> >

> > " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> > Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

> >

> > Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raji,

> > >

> > > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector

in

> > antra

> > > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> > sector

> > > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> > >

> > > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for

5th

> > > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon

> > > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for

5th

> > and

> > > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> > >

> > > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period.

> > >

> > > I wish the native well.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " raji1153 "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like

to

> > say

> > > a

> > > > couple of things about this native.

> > > >

> > > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long

> > > struggle.

> > > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She led

a

> > life

> > > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college

life.

> > > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been

her

> > > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second job

> > took

> > > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and

home

> > and

> > > is

> > > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go to

> > > > hometown.

> > > >

> > > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour,

and

> > hence

> > > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also

feel

> > > that

> > > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > > >

> > > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> > colleague.

> > > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however

are

> > not

> > > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There

is

> > > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But

will

> > > they

> > > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as

> > some

> > > > write

> > > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go

> > > verbatim

> > > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can

say

> > > > > psychological factors.

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic kind.

> > Even

> > > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm this.

> > If

> > > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what

she

> > is

> > > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > > >

> > > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that

> > should

> > > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact

prefers

> > guys

> > > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose

her

> > > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > > >

> > > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in

> > proper

> > > > > place or might not be very particular about how she

dresses

> up

> > > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know her.

> > Keeps

> > > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up

> > quarrel

> > > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the

cupboard.

> > > Yes,

> > > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > > fashionable.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might

think

> > that

> > > > she

> > > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone

compromise.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > > >

> > > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time)

will

> > > rise

> > > > to

> > > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own

business.

> > She

> > > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses

oppose

> > her

> > > > she

> > > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better

quality

> > of

> > > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.

> > > >

> > > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> > obsessive

> > > > about

> > > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

> finishes

> > > the

> > > > > tasks she takes up.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a

> > > > perfectionist.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be

very

> > > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take

care

> > > she

> > > > > will walk off....

> > > >

> > > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen

her

> > > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her

present

> > date

> > > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the

details

> > are

> > > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to

her

> > and

> > > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets. Now

> > also

> > > > most

> > > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person

> > itself

> > > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in

> > > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

> temples.not

> > > > superstitious though.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any

> > chart.

> > > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > > >

> > > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK

for

> > > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and

being

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might

be

> > so

> > > > busy

> > > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have

time

> > for

> > > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might

not

> > > last

> > > > > long ...

> > > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some

> more

> > > > > clarity...

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " raji1153 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points satisfying,

> > right?

> > > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between

> > Lagna

> > > > lord

> > > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and

Sun

> > > Sign

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to come

to

> > a

> > > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> > 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > > Pi

> > > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1

Pi

> > > > 42Purva

> > > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi

49RevatiMeCpSa13

> Vi

> > > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in d3,

d9

> > and

> > > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and is

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by

> > > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status and

> > point

> > > 7

> > > > > and

> > > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in any

1

> > > house

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives

no

> > > > > marriage "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and

its

> > > > aspected

> > > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination. So

u

> > get

> > > > Ve,

> > > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same

or

> > > does

> > > > > the

> > > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1

sign

> > and

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order

and

> > all

> > > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > > independent,

> > > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and

having

> a

> > > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart

either ...

> > > > lagna

> > > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with

adjusment...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all

these

> > > > factors ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

> difficult

> > > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th

> > house.

> > > > All

> > > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope

with

> > > > planets

> > > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

> > somebody

> > > > be

> > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics

engineering

> > > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to

a

> > > > different

> > > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please

also

> > > > mention

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage.

Also,

> > give

> > > > the

> > > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

> > specify

> > > > with

> > > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of

birth -

> > NA

> > > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > > >

November 18, 2004

Dear Raji,

The relationships related to love or close friendship of such kind is

seen from the 5th house. If you check the chart, you will see that Ma

and ve are in same sign in rasi and navamsa. So, such relations are

indicated. Hence, Ash has used the 5th house to find the results

related to this relationship.

Regarding your question, let us say that marriage does happen in Ra

antra disregarding the other points, check Ra is more like which

planet, Mo or Sa? You will get the answer.

I hope that clears the confusion.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " raji1153 "

<raji1153> wrote:

>

> Yes, I have gone through kalavati's horoscope and understtod the

> reason of the divorce of the first marriage. But, here with the

> horoscope I presented, Ash, has been giving his analysis on the

> basis of 5th house. That is what I couldn't follow.

>

> Could you please explain that to me.

> I would like to present the birth details and the related events

> again..

>

> DOB : 5th April, 1981

> TOB : 03:30 AM

> POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

>

> First job : Oct2002.

> In a serious relationship since Feb-Mar 2003.

> Terrible opposition from parents.

> Currently running the Ve/Ra dasha. Ra is SD to the Moon and Saturn.

> So, if marriage happens in the sub-period of Ra, will is sustain?

> In the worksheet for the 7th house, the points are as follows :

>

> Ve 28

> Me 26

> Sa 23

> Su 17

> Ju 14

> Ma 7

> Mo 5

>

> Thanks in advance.

> Raji.

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raji,

> >

> > Ash has given a good suggestion. Please see Kalavathi's chart.

You

> > would understand why marriage happened in that antra.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , Ash

> <ashsam73>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

> > >

> > > I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your question

> is

> > infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

> > >

> > > Here I wrote things in short cut.

> > >

> > > I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It

> would

> > give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events

> > happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and other

> > members if they have time can also guide you.

> > >

> > > It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

> > >

> > > I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

> > question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

> > >

> > > I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in the

> > discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time I

> > request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

> > lessons so he/she can follow.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ash,

> > >

> > > I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some

time

> > > in explaining this to me?

> > >

> > > " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> > > Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> > > Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect

> progeny,

> > am

> > > I right?

> > >

> > > " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> > > Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> > > worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are

> less?

> > >

> > > " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> > > Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

> > >

> > > Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raji,

> > > >

> > > > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd sector

> in

> > > antra

> > > > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> > > sector

> > > > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> > > >

> > > > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points for

> 5th

> > > > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon. Moon

> > > > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for

> 5th

> > > and

> > > > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> > > >

> > > > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this period.

> > > >

> > > > I wish the native well.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " raji1153 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would like

> to

> > > say

> > > > a

> > > > > couple of things about this native.

> > > > >

> > > > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a long

> > > > struggle.

> > > > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She

led

> a

> > > life

> > > > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college

> life.

> > > > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been

> her

> > > > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second

job

> > > took

> > > > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and

> home

> > > and

> > > > is

> > > > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go

to

> > > > > hometown.

> > > > >

> > > > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour,

> and

> > > hence

> > > > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys also

> feel

> > > > that

> > > > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > > > >

> > > > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> > > colleague.

> > > > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents however

> are

> > > not

> > > > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent. There

> is

> > > > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose. But

> will

> > > > they

> > > > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7 as

> > > some

> > > > > write

> > > > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we go

> > > > verbatim

> > > > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you can

> say

> > > > > > psychological factors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic

kind.

> > > Even

> > > > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm

this.

> > > If

> > > > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with what

> she

> > > is

> > > > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess that

> > > should

> > > > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact

> prefers

> > > guys

> > > > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to impose

> her

> > > > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > > > >

> > > > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things in

> > > proper

> > > > > > place or might not be very particular about how she

> dresses

> > up

> > > > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know

her.

> > > Keeps

> > > > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks up

> > > quarrel

> > > > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the

> cupboard.

> > > > Yes,

> > > > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > > > fashionable.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might

> think

> > > that

> > > > > she

> > > > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone

> compromise.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in time)

> will

> > > > rise

> > > > > to

> > > > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own

> business.

> > > She

> > > > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses

> oppose

> > > her

> > > > > she

> > > > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better

> quality

> > > of

> > > > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I suppose.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> > > obsessive

> > > > > about

> > > > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

> > finishes

> > > > the

> > > > > > tasks she takes up.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and a

> > > > > perfectionist.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would be

> very

> > > > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not take

> care

> > > > she

> > > > > > will walk off....

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen

> her

> > > > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her

> present

> > > date

> > > > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the

> details

> > > are

> > > > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior to

> her

> > > and

> > > > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets.

Now

> > > also

> > > > > most

> > > > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the person

> > > itself

> > > > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much in

> > > > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

> > temples.not

> > > > > superstitious though.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in any

> > > chart.

> > > > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > > > >

> > > > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is NK

> for

> > > > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and

> being

> > > > > aspected

> > > > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady might

> be

> > > so

> > > > > busy

> > > > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have

> time

> > > for

> > > > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it might

> not

> > > > last

> > > > > > long ...

> > > > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get some

> > more

> > > > > > clarity...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " raji1153 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points

satisfying,

> > > right?

> > > > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship between

> > > Lagna

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign and

> Sun

> > > > Sign

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to

come

> to

> > > a

> > > > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> > > 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > > > Pi

> > > > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi 57RevatiMeCpMe1

> Pi

> > > > > 42Purva

> > > > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi

> 49RevatiMeCpSa13

> > Vi

> > > > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in

d3,

> d9

> > > and

> > > > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and

is

> > > > > aspected

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status

and

> > > point

> > > > 7

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in

any

> 1

> > > > house

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it gives

> no

> > > > > > marriage "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house and

> its

> > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination.

So

> u

> > > get

> > > > > Ve,

> > > > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the same

> or

> > > > does

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in 1

> sign

> > > and

> > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising order

> and

> > > all

> > > > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > > > independent,

> > > > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and

> having

> > a

> > > > lot

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart

> either ...

> > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with

> adjusment...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all

> these

> > > > > factors ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

> > difficult

> > > > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the 9th

> > > house.

> > > > > All

> > > > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope

> with

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

> > > somebody

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics

> engineering

> > > > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched to

> a

> > > > > different

> > > > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please

> also

> > > > > mention

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage.

> Also,

> > > give

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

> > > specify

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of

> birth -

> > > NA

> > > > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > > > >

November 18, 2004

Dear Manu,

Yes, when any event happens in low points firstly for the event to

take place in lowest points there must be some factors in the chart.

So considering those factors first then for timing the result it did

happen in the lowest significator here we can say friendship so 5th

house as u pointed out. Its showing us something.

When such things happen more chances for it to break in strongest

significator or LoD or LoE. Here Sa is LoD for 5th house. Rahu

antra is on.

Samdharmis step in if one the significator is aspecting one of the

primary significator houses. For 5th as B, C = 9th and A = 12th.

Here Rahu is SD to Sa and Moon. Moon is aspecting House C. So SD

can step in. So more chances for Rahu giving the break.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

>

> Dear Raji,

>

> The relationships related to love or close friendship of such kind

is

> seen from the 5th house. If you check the chart, you will see that

Ma

> and ve are in same sign in rasi and navamsa. So, such relations are

> indicated. Hence, Ash has used the 5th house to find the results

> related to this relationship.

>

> Regarding your question, let us say that marriage does happen in Ra

> antra disregarding the other points, check Ra is more like which

> planet, Mo or Sa? You will get the answer.

>

> I hope that clears the confusion.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " raji1153 "

> <raji1153> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, I have gone through kalavati's horoscope and understtod the

> > reason of the divorce of the first marriage. But, here with the

> > horoscope I presented, Ash, has been giving his analysis on the

> > basis of 5th house. That is what I couldn't follow.

> >

> > Could you please explain that to me.

> > I would like to present the birth details and the related events

> > again..

> >

> > DOB : 5th April, 1981

> > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> >

> > First job : Oct2002.

> > In a serious relationship since Feb-Mar 2003.

> > Terrible opposition from parents.

> > Currently running the Ve/Ra dasha. Ra is SD to the Moon and

Saturn.

> > So, if marriage happens in the sub-period of Ra, will is sustain?

> > In the worksheet for the 7th house, the points are as follows :

> >

> > Ve 28

> > Me 26

> > Sa 23

> > Su 17

> > Ju 14

> > Ma 7

> > Mo 5

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Raji.

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raji,

> > >

> > > Ash has given a good suggestion. Please see Kalavathi's chart.

> You

> > > would understand why marriage happened in that antra.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > , Ash

> > <ashsam73>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list members,

> > > >

> > > > I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your

question

> > is

> > > infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

> > > >

> > > > Here I wrote things in short cut.

> > > >

> > > > I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It

> > would

> > > give answer this particular question of yours Raji about events

> > > happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and

other

> > > members if they have time can also guide you.

> > > >

> > > > It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

> > > >

> > > > I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

> > > question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

> > > >

> > > > I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in

the

> > > discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean time

I

> > > request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

> > > lessons so he/she can follow.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some

> time

> > > > in explaining this to me?

> > > >

> > > > " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> > > > Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> > > > Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect

> > progeny,

> > > am

> > > > I right?

> > > >

> > > > " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> > > > Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> > > > worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are

> > less?

> > > >

> > > > " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> > > > Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

> > > >

> > > > Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd

sector

> > in

> > > > antra

> > > > > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> > > > sector

> > > > > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points

for

> > 5th

> > > > > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon.

Moon

> > > > > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points for

> > 5th

> > > > and

> > > > > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this

period.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish the native well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " raji1153 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would

like

> > to

> > > > say

> > > > > a

> > > > > > couple of things about this native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a

long

> > > > > struggle.

> > > > > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She

> led

> > a

> > > > life

> > > > > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college

> > life.

> > > > > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has been

> > her

> > > > > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second

> job

> > > > took

> > > > > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and

> > home

> > > > and

> > > > > is

> > > > > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to go

> to

> > > > > > hometown.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of humour,

> > and

> > > > hence

> > > > > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys

also

> > feel

> > > > > that

> > > > > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> > > > colleague.

> > > > > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents

however

> > are

> > > > not

> > > > > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent.

There

> > is

> > > > > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose.

But

> > will

> > > > > they

> > > > > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7

as

> > > > some

> > > > > > write

> > > > > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we

go

> > > > > verbatim

> > > > > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you

can

> > say

> > > > > > > psychological factors.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic

> kind.

> > > > Even

> > > > > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm

> this.

> > > > If

> > > > > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with

what

> > she

> > > > is

> > > > > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess

that

> > > > should

> > > > > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact

> > prefers

> > > > guys

> > > > > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to

impose

> > her

> > > > > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things

in

> > > > proper

> > > > > > > place or might not be very particular about how she

> > dresses

> > > up

> > > > > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > > > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know

> her.

> > > > Keeps

> > > > > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks

up

> > > > quarrel

> > > > > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the

> > cupboard.

> > > > > Yes,

> > > > > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > > > > fashionable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might

> > think

> > > > that

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone

> > compromise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in

time)

> > will

> > > > > rise

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own

> > business.

> > > > She

> > > > > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses

> > oppose

> > > > her

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better

> > quality

> > > > of

> > > > > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I

suppose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> > > > obsessive

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

> > > finishes

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > tasks she takes up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date and

a

> > > > > > perfectionist.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would

be

> > very

> > > > > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not

take

> > care

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > will walk off....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always seen

> > her

> > > > > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her

> > present

> > > > date

> > > > > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the

> > details

> > > > are

> > > > > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior

to

> > her

> > > > and

> > > > > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets.

> Now

> > > > also

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the

person

> > > > itself

> > > > > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much

in

> > > > > > > superstitions and might want to see things first before

> > > > > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

> > > temples.not

> > > > > > superstitious though.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in

any

> > > > chart.

> > > > > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is

NK

> > for

> > > > > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and

> > being

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady

might

> > be

> > > > so

> > > > > > busy

> > > > > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not have

> > time

> > > > for

> > > > > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it

might

> > not

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > long ...

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get

some

> > > more

> > > > > > > clarity...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " raji1153 "

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points

> satisfying,

> > > > right?

> > > > > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship

between

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign

and

> > Sun

> > > > > Sign

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to

> come

> > to

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> > > > 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > > > > Pi

> > > > > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi

57RevatiMeCpMe1

> > Pi

> > > > > > 42Purva

> > > > > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi

> > 49RevatiMeCpSa13

> > > Vi

> > > > > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in

> d3,

> > d9

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees and

> is

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status

> and

> > > > point

> > > > > 7

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in

> any

> > 1

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it

gives

> > no

> > > > > > > marriage "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house

and

> > its

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this combination.

> So

> > u

> > > > get

> > > > > > Ve,

> > > > > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the

same

> > or

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in

1

> > sign

> > > > and

> > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising

order

> > and

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > > > > independent,

> > > > > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and

> > having

> > > a

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart

> > either ...

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with

> > adjusment...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all

> > these

> > > > > > factors ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

> > > difficult

> > > > > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the

9th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > All

> > > > > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this horoscope

> > with

> > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other. Will

> > > > somebody

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics

> > engineering

> > > > > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software Professional

> > > > > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched

to

> > a

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage. Please

> > also

> > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage.

> > Also,

> > > > give

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life, please

> > > > specify

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of

> > birth -

> > > > NA

> > > > > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > > > > >

November 18, 2004

Dear Manu,

It's clear to me now.Now what if the wedding is performed

during the sub period of Jupiter?

Thanks,

Raji.

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

>

> Dear Raji,

>

> The relationships related to love or close friendship of such kind

is

> seen from the 5th house. If you check the chart, you will see that

Ma

> and ve are in same sign in rasi and navamsa. So, such relations

are

> indicated. Hence, Ash has used the 5th house to find the results

> related to this relationship.

>

> Regarding your question, let us say that marriage does happen in

Ra

> antra disregarding the other points, check Ra is more like which

> planet, Mo or Sa? You will get the answer.

>

> I hope that clears the confusion.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " raji1153 "

> <raji1153> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, I have gone through kalavati's horoscope and understtod the

> > reason of the divorce of the first marriage. But, here with the

> > horoscope I presented, Ash, has been giving his analysis on the

> > basis of 5th house. That is what I couldn't follow.

> >

> > Could you please explain that to me.

> > I would like to present the birth details and the related events

> > again..

> >

> > DOB : 5th April, 1981

> > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> >

> > First job : Oct2002.

> > In a serious relationship since Feb-Mar 2003.

> > Terrible opposition from parents.

> > Currently running the Ve/Ra dasha. Ra is SD to the Moon and

Saturn.

> > So, if marriage happens in the sub-period of Ra, will is

sustain?

> > In the worksheet for the 7th house, the points are as follows :

> >

> > Ve 28

> > Me 26

> > Sa 23

> > Su 17

> > Ju 14

> > Ma 7

> > Mo 5

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Raji.

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raji,

> > >

> > > Ash has given a good suggestion. Please see Kalavathi's chart.

> You

> > > would understand why marriage happened in that antra.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > , Ash

> > <ashsam73>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Radhika, Manu, Puneet, Dadhi, skalavati and list

members,

> > > >

> > > > I am glad that you are making a sincere effort. Your

question

> > is

> > > infact very good and I am glad that you picked it up.

> > > >

> > > > Here I wrote things in short cut.

> > > >

> > > > I hope you all can take up the chart of skalavati and it It

> > would

> > > give answer this particular question of yours Raji about

events

> > > happening in lowest points. If Manu, Puneet and Dadhi and

other

> > > members if they have time can also guide you.

> > > >

> > > > It will also help skalavati. (I dont know the name... )

> > > >

> > > > I casted the chart and looked at skalavaits chart. I have a

> > > question to skalavati, is this the chart or Male of Female ?

> > > >

> > > > I am currently very busy with work so I will try to join in

the

> > > discussions as and when I get some free time. In the mean

time I

> > > request skalavati to cast his/her worksheet and go through the

> > > lessons so he/she can follow.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > raji1153 <raji1153> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I haven't followed this mail of yours. Could you spare some

> time

> > > > in explaining this to me?

> > > >

> > > > " Mars is 12th from 5th. "

> > > > Why is the fifth house being considered for marriage?

> > > > Mars is the twelth lord from the 5th, so it could affect

> > progeny,

> > > am

> > > > I right?

> > > >

> > > > " it(Mars) has less points for 5th "

> > > > Mars has 4 points in SAV for the fifth and 19 points in the

> > > > worksheet for the 5th house. So what points do you think are

> > less?

> > > >

> > > > " Moon has 18 points for 5th "

> > > > Moon has only 11 points for the 5th I guess.

> > > >

> > > > Please correct me with patience. I'm still learning...

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Is this a co-incidence that her affairs starts in 2nd

sector

> > in

> > > > antra

> > > > > of Mars. Mars is 12th from 5th. There is full delay so 3rd

> > > > sector

> > > > > but its moderated by Ju so 2nd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars is the lord of 12th from 5th and it has less points

for

> > 5th

> > > > > house. Rahu antra is running who is SD to LoD and Moon.

Moon

> > > > > aspects 9th house so SD can step in. Moon has 18 points

for

> > 5th

> > > > and

> > > > > Sa is LoD for 5th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again Rahu is SD to 2nd lord. So more worries in this

period.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish the native well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " raji1153 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me mark my answers below. But before that, I would

like

> > to

> > > > say

> > > > > a

> > > > > > couple of things about this native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is the only daughter to her parents, born after a

long

> > > > > struggle.

> > > > > > Her mother had 2-3 miscarriages before she was born. She

> led

> > a

> > > > life

> > > > > > of protected childhood all through her teens and college

> > life.

> > > > > > Excelled in academics and dance and music. Dance has

been

> > her

> > > > > > passion. She had to leave home for her first job. Second

> job

> > > > took

> > > > > > her further away from home. Very attached to parents and

> > home

> > > > and

> > > > > is

> > > > > > now desparately trying for a transfer/change of job to

go

> to

> > > > > > hometown.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is quite goodlooking and has a great sense of

humour,

> > and

> > > > hence

> > > > > > is very popular among the opposite sex. But yes, guys

also

> > feel

> > > > > that

> > > > > > their egos are hurt with her statements.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She is currently involved in a relationship with her ex

> > > > colleague.

> > > > > > This has been going on since Feb 2003. Her parents

however

> > are

> > > > not

> > > > > > favoring this. Guess she's waiting for their consent.

There

> > is

> > > > > > absolutely no problems from the guy's side, I suppose.

But

> > will

> > > > > they

> > > > > > wait is yet to be seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Raji,

> > > > > > > 1:7 means the lords are in sign of enemies. 1:7 or 7:7

as

> > > > some

> > > > > > write

> > > > > > > it means there is a struggle for domination.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, Raji, I agree atleast 2-3 points much match if we

go

> > > > > verbatim

> > > > > > > however in this chart there are other factors or you

can

> > say

> > > > > > > psychological factors.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) Venus is too close to sun. She is not the romatic

> kind.

> > > > Even

> > > > > > > might not be comfortable around guys. Please confirm

> this.

> > > > If

> > > > > > > anyone opposes or has any difference of opinion with

what

> > she

> > > > is

> > > > > > > thinking she might not like that ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : She enjoys romatic songs and movies. SO I guess

that

> > > > should

> > > > > > make her romantic. Very comfortable with guys. Infact

> > prefers

> > > > guys

> > > > > > to girls for debates/discussions. Yes, she tries to

impose

> > her

> > > > > > thoughts to otehrs. Quite bossy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) She might not even bother too much with keep things

in

> > > > proper

> > > > > > > place or might not be very particular about how she

> > dresses

> > > up

> > > > > > > either. Again can you please confirm this...

> > > > > > Raji : Is very disciplined and orderly as far as I know

> her.

> > > > Keeps

> > > > > > her things very well and makes others do the same. Picks

up

> > > > quarrel

> > > > > > with ppl over trivial matters like cleanliness of the

> > cupboard.

> > > > > Yes,

> > > > > > does not bother about her clothes or anything. Not very

> > > > > > fashionable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now she is very intellegent and she knows it and might

> > think

> > > > that

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > is always right. Will not easily accept let alone

> > compromise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, imposes her ways on others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She is very independent and either might be (or in

time)

> > will

> > > > > rise

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > prominent position of authority or will do her own

> > business.

> > > > She

> > > > > > > needs that space to do things her way. If her bosses

> > oppose

> > > > her

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > will not like it or may leave job / jobs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Left her first job for better salary and better

> > quality

> > > > of

> > > > > > work. Relations with boss have been good so far, I

suppose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now again Rahu is aspecting moon so again she will be

> > > > obsessive

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > things she does or she will not like to rest till she

> > > finishes

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > tasks she takes up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, on the work front, she's always upto date

and a

> > > > > > perfectionist.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She is not the emotional kind of person but she would

be

> > very

> > > > > > > sensitive. If the person she dates/marries does not

take

> > care

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > will walk off....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : very emotional and sensitive... I have always

seen

> > her

> > > > > > either laughing hard or weeping silently.. She and her

> > present

> > > > date

> > > > > > share a very special relationship I guess. However the

> > details

> > > > are

> > > > > > still a secret and hasn't been revealed to anybody.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She may look for someone having higher status than her.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : This guy is not of a higher status, but is senior

to

> > her

> > > > and

> > > > > > well placed and very good at his job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also 6th lord is conjoining and aspecting all planets.

> Now

> > > > also

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > planets are aspecting 9th house in such cases the

person

> > > > itself

> > > > > > > becomes very hard work. She also will not beleive much

in

> > > > > > > superstitions and might want to see things first

before

> > > > > > > accepting/beleive them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : She seems god fearing, regularly prays/visits

> > > temples.not

> > > > > > superstitious though.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now blessing of father/guru is also very important in

any

> > > > chart.

> > > > > > > Here Lagna/9th lords are in 1:7.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raji : So far, has been very close to father.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now venus also has less points for 2nd house. Venus is

NK

> > for

> > > > > > > marriage and its spoilt by being very close to Sun and

> > being

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > by Sa and also conjoins Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here considering all factors I think that this lady

might

> > be

> > > > so

> > > > > > busy

> > > > > > > with her job/autority and working that she may not

have

> > time

> > > > for

> > > > > > > anything else. If she might be in relationships it

might

> > not

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > long ...

> > > > > > Raji : Yes, she is a kind of workholic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope others join in this disucssion so that we get

some

> > > more

> > > > > > > clarity...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is an interesting chart... thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " raji1153 "

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As per lesson 24, there should be 2-3 points

> satisfying,

> > > > right?

> > > > > > > > I could not find a single point satisfying.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Considering other lessons like rules for analysing

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > etc, nothing is metioned about 7:7 relationship

between

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > and seventh lord and for the Lords of the Moon Sign

and

> > Sun

> > > > > Sign

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > the seventh lords from these. Hence I'm not able to

> come

> > to

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > conclusion at all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Manu, Dadhi and list members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am pasting the degree of planets.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Planet/DegreeNakshatraLordNavamsaAs28 Cp

> > > > 31DhanisthaMaViSu22

> > > > > > Pi

> > > > > > > > 27RevatiMeCpMo23 Pi 27RevatiMeAqMa21 Pi

57RevatiMeCpMe1

> > Pi

> > > > > > 42Purva

> > > > > > > > BhadrapadaJuCnJu11 Vi 40HastaMoArVe21 Pi

> > 49RevatiMeCpSa13

> > > Vi

> > > > > > > > 10HastaMoArRa14 Cn 57PushyaSaScKe14 Cp 57SravanaMoTa

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart is there marriage ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My analysis is

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Lagna points are very high of 46.

> > > > > > > > > 2) lagna/sun/moon is falling in 4 sectors of Sa in

> d3,

> > d9

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > trishansha.

> > > > > > > > > 3) Venus to Sun distance is Less than 1 degrees

and

> is

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > Sa and it conjoins mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) As per Lesson 24 (Rules for non maritial status

> and

> > > > point

> > > > > 7

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > I quote it says " When Venus and Moon are situated in

> any

> > 1

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Sa and Ma are situated in 7th house from them it

gives

> > no

> > > > > > > marriage "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart Ve (spoilt) and Mo is in 3rd house

and

> > its

> > > > > > aspected

> > > > > > > > by Sa from 9t however Mars conjoins this

combination.

> So

> > u

> > > > get

> > > > > > Ve,

> > > > > > > > Mo, Ma and aspected by Sa. Can this be treated the

same

> > or

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > combination HAS to be as its given i.e. Ve and Mo in

1

> > sign

> > > > and

> > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > > and Ma in 7th ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please clarify ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) DBCE poitns from Sun and Moon are in rising

order

> > and

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > points of 10th and 11th . Good income and authority,

> > > > > > independent,

> > > > > > > > head strong / adament.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native seems to be very adament, egoistic and

> > having

> > > a

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > pride, but practical in approach.. and hard working..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > No blessing of father or guru is in this chart

> > either ...

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > and 7th lords are in 1:7 again problems with

> > adjusment...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is there a marriage in this chart considering all

> > these

> > > > > > factors ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please guide....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > raji1153 wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear learned members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm finding the analysis of this chart extremely

> > > difficult

> > > > > > > > > with every planet occupying either the 3rd or the

9th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > All

> > > > > > > > > rules laid out seem to hold true for this

horoscope

> > with

> > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > > either in association or aspecting each other.

Will

> > > > somebody

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > kind

> > > > > > > > > enough to analyse this horoscope...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth Details :

> > > > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > > > DOB : 5th April, 1981.

> > > > > > > > > TOB : 03:30 AM

> > > > > > > > > POB : Belgaum, Karnataka.

> > > > > > > > > Gender : Female.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - Education level of the native - Electronics

> > engineering

> > > > > > > Graduate.

> > > > > > > > > - Means of earning a living - Software

Professional

> > > > > > > > > - when the job began - 7th Oct 2002.

> > > > > > > > > - Any change in jobs, date of pay raise - Switched

to

> > a

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > company On 23 Dec, 2003.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - If married then give the date of marriage.

Please

> > also

> > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > it is a pre-arranged marriage or a love marriage.

> > Also,

> > > > give

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > chart of the life partner - Not Married.

> > > > > > > > > - If there are problems in the marital life,

please

> > > > specify

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > date - NA

> > > > > > > > > - If there are children, then give their dates of

> > birth -

> > > > NA

> > > > > > > > > - Specify whether parents are still living - Yes.

> > > > > > > > > - Any accident, or similar event with date - None.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > > > > >

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