Guest guest Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Hello friends, I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of the key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of houses 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest businessmen of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points are in random order in this case. I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts in this forum to share their views. Good fortune, Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Hello Amit, Welcome to the group. This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You can go through the following posts from the archives. #735, #785, #885, #901, #901 I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around the times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as you rightly said the brilliance can be see. In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in namvasa of shani. In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd house, 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by 1st house good. First house deals with personality. If you go through the archives there are lots of such intersting exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons and also visit Donnas website @ http://www.krushna.sageasita.com Cheers !!! Ash , " amitavikrama " <amitavikrama> wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of the > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of houses > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest businessmen > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points are > in random order in this case. > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts in this > forum to share their views. > > Good fortune, > > Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Hi Ash, Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those previous discussions on this forum. However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of explanations given actually show that one should have rising DBCE points to be a successful entrepreneur. > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as you > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in namvasa > of shani. > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd house, > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by 1st > house good. First house deals with personality. Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee success in business. I think my mum has a better personality than Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-) > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, you will know that he was never in debt. Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in business? Good fortune, Amit , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Hello Amit, > Welcome to the group. > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You can go > through the following posts from the archives. > > #735, > #785, > #885, > #901, > #901 > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around the > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as you > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in namvasa > of shani. > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd house, > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by 1st > house good. First house deals with personality. > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such intersting > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons and > also visit Donnas website @ > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " amitavikrama " > <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > > Hello friends, > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of the > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of houses > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > businessmen > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points are > > in random order in this case. > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts in > this > > forum to share their views. > > > > Good fortune, > > > > Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Dear Amit, Please refer to what you have said and what Krushnaji has said. Cheers !!! Ash You have said " Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in business? " Please refer to the post that I had referred you to viz-a-viz 901. I shall quote what Krushnaji has said. " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. STATUS OF KARAK PLANET, LORD OF >D AND E , EFFECT OF 12TH LORD FROM 'B', NO ZERO POINTS BY ANY PLANET IN ANY >HOUSE, MAXIMUM PLANETS WITH LESS POINTS, SO BENEFIC SIGHT EFFECT, 4:10 >RELATION SHIP, YOGKARAK (ONE PLANET HAVING LORDSHIP OF 'A' AND 'B') eX MARS >FOR CANCER ETC. THEN THIS ASCENDING ORDER CAN GIVE GOOD RESULT. fROM THE >ABOVE DATUM LEVEL IS FIXED, THEN HOW MUCH ABOVE ONE CAN REACH CAN BE SEEN. >ALL THE PLANETS MUST HAVE MORE THEN 12 POINTS AS A SIGNIFICATOR FOR SUCH >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL GIVE GOOD >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. KRUSHNA " , " amitavikrama " <amitavikrama> wrote: > > Hi Ash, > > Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those previous > discussions on this forum. > > However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of > explanations given actually show that one should have rising DBCE > points to be a successful entrepreneur. > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > you > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > namvasa > > of shani. > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd house, > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > 1st > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee > success in business. I think my mum has a better personality than > Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-) > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, you > will know that he was never in debt. > > Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in a > chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in business? > > > Good fortune, > Amit > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Hello Amit, > > Welcome to the group. > > > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You can > go > > through the following posts from the archives. > > > > #735, > > #785, > > #885, > > #901, > > #901 > > > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around the > > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and > Krushnaji. > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > you > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > namvasa > > of shani. > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd house, > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > 1st > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such intersting > > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons and > > also visit Donnas website @ > > > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " amitavikrama " > > <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > > > > Hello friends, > > > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of > the > > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of > houses > > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > > businessmen > > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points > are > > > in random order in this case. > > > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts in > > this > > > forum to share their views. > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > > > > Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Dear Ash: Well, I was only checking my understanding. As you know, I am not expert; I'm still learning KAS. I did read the posts. > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. Now, the very line is confusing to me. Does it mean rising DBCE points is a requirement always ( ie a must), but there are other factors such as karkatwas and lordships to make a final judgement? Or Does it mean that rising DBCE points is one of the " desired fearures " but the final judgement depends on a host of other factors? > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > GIVE GOOD > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. Further adds to my confusion. Can you please clarify the above again? It is sometimes hard to follow past conversations, especially as a third person. It would be very helpful if you could demonstrate KAS principles in Bill Gates chart, with focus to his career as businessman and his wealth. Many thanks, Amit , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > Please refer to what you have said and what Krushnaji has said. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > You have said > " Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in > a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > business? " > > Please refer to the post that I had referred you to viz-a-viz 901. > I shall quote what Krushnaji has said. > > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. STATUS OF KARAK PLANET, > LORD OF > >D AND E , EFFECT OF 12TH LORD FROM 'B', NO ZERO POINTS BY ANY PLANET > IN ANY > >HOUSE, MAXIMUM PLANETS WITH LESS POINTS, SO BENEFIC SIGHT EFFECT, > 4:10 > >RELATION SHIP, YOGKARAK (ONE PLANET HAVING LORDSHIP OF 'A' AND 'B') > eX MARS > >FOR CANCER ETC. THEN THIS ASCENDING ORDER CAN GIVE GOOD RESULT. fROM > THE > >ABOVE DATUM LEVEL IS FIXED, THEN HOW MUCH ABOVE ONE CAN REACH CAN BE > SEEN. > >ALL THE PLANETS MUST HAVE MORE THEN 12 POINTS AS A SIGNIFICATOR FOR > SUCH > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > GIVE GOOD > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. > KRUSHNA " > > > , " amitavikrama " > <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those previous > > discussions on this forum. > > > > However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of > > explanations given actually show that one should have rising DBCE > > points to be a successful entrepreneur. > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > > you > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > namvasa > > > of shani. > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > house, > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > > 1st > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee > > success in business. I think my mum has a better personality than > > Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-) > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > > > > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, you > > will know that he was never in debt. > > > > Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in > a > > chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > business? > > > > > > Good fortune, > > Amit > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Amit, > > > Welcome to the group. > > > > > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You can > > go > > > through the following posts from the archives. > > > > > > #735, > > > #785, > > > #885, > > > #901, > > > #901 > > > > > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around > the > > > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > > you > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > namvasa > > > of shani. > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > house, > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > > 1st > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such intersting > > > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons and > > > also visit Donnas website @ > > > > > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , " amitavikrama " > > > <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello friends, > > > > > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of > > the > > > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of > > houses > > > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > > > > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > > > businessmen > > > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points > > are > > > > in random order in this case. > > > > > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts > in > > > this > > > > forum to share their views. > > > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > > > > > > Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Dear Amit, If you go to the file section and download the lessons and go step by step I beleive your confusions will get cleared. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ashamitavikrama <amitavikrama wrote: Dear Ash:Well, I was only checking my understanding. As you know, I am not expert; I'm still learning KAS. I did read the posts.> "> > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD> >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. Now, the very line is confusing to me. Does it mean rising DBCE points is a requirement always ( ie a must), but there are other factors such as karkatwas and lordships to make a final judgement?Or Does it mean that rising DBCE points is one of the "desired fearures" but the final judgement depends on a host of other factors?> >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > GIVE GOOD> >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE.Further adds to my confusion.Can you please clarify the above again? It is sometimes hard to follow past conversations, especially as a third person.It would be very helpful if you could demonstrate KAS principles in Bill Gates chart, with focus to his career as businessman and his wealth.Many thanks,Amit , "ashsam73" wrote:> > Dear Amit,> > Please refer to what you have said and what Krushnaji has said.> Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > You have said> "Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in > a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > business?"> > Please refer to the post that I had referred you to viz-a-viz 901. > I shall quote what Krushnaji has said.> > "> > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD> >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. STATUS OF KARAK PLANET, > LORD OF> >D AND E , EFFECT OF 12TH LORD FROM 'B', NO ZERO POINTS BY ANY PLANET > IN ANY> >HOUSE, MAXIMUM PLANETS WITH LESS POINTS, SO BENEFIC SIGHT EFFECT, > 4:10> >RELATION SHIP, YOGKARAK (ONE PLANET HAVING LORDSHIP OF 'A' AND 'B') > eX MARS> >FOR CANCER ETC. THEN THIS ASCENDING ORDER CAN GIVE GOOD RESULT. fROM > THE> >ABOVE DATUM LEVEL IS FIXED, THEN HOW MUCH ABOVE ONE CAN REACH CAN BE > SEEN.> >ALL THE PLANETS MUST HAVE MORE THEN 12 POINTS AS A SIGNIFICATOR FOR > SUCH> >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > GIVE GOOD> >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE.> KRUSHNA"> > > , "amitavikrama" > wrote:> > > > Hi Ash,> > > > Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those previous > > discussions on this forum.> > > > However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of > > explanations given actually show that one should have rising DBCE > > points to be a successful entrepreneur.> > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > > you > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > namvasa > > > of shani. > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > house, > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > > 1st > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee > > success in business. I think my mum has a better personality than > > Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-)> > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36.> > > > > > > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, you > > will know that he was never in debt.> > > > Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities in > a > > chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > business?> > > > > > Good fortune,> > Amit> > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > > > > Hello Amit,> > > Welcome to the group. > > > > > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You can > > go > > > through the following posts from the archives.> > > > > > #735,> > > #785,> > > #885,> > > #901,> > > #901> > > > > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around > the > > > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and > > Krushnaji.> > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are more > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36.> > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors of > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case as > > you > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > namvasa > > > of shani. > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > house, > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled by > > 1st > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such intersting > > > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons and > > > also visit Donnas website @> > > > > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > , "amitavikrama" > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Hello friends,> > > > > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one of > > the > > > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of > > houses > > > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order.> > > > > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > > > businessmen > > > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The points > > are > > > > in random order in this case. > > > > > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts > in > > > this > > > > forum to share their views.> > > > > > > > Good fortune,> > > > > > > > Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Dear Ash: Why do you assume that I have not read the chapters in your file section? I am new to ashtagavarga as a prediction tool, but not vedic astrology. I have been studying this shastra for years. As you may agree, if reading literature answered all questions, what is the necessity of such a discussion group? With this thought, I will leave it to krushna ji to answer my questions (esp. re: Bill Gates chart) or pursue my study on ashtakavarga from some other source. Many thanks for your time, Amit , Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Amit, > If you go to the file section and download the lessons and go step by step I beleive your confusions will get cleared. > Hope that helps, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > amitavikrama <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > Dear Ash: > > Well, I was only checking my understanding. As you know, I am not > expert; I'm still learning KAS. > > I did read the posts. > > > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD > > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. > > Now, the very line is confusing to me. Does it mean rising DBCE > points is a requirement always ( ie a must), but there are other > factors such as karkatwas and lordships to make a final judgement? > > Or > > Does it mean that rising DBCE points is one of the " desired fearures " > but the final judgement depends on a host of other factors? > > > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > > GIVE GOOD > > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. > > Further adds to my confusion. > > > Can you please clarify the above again? It is sometimes hard to > follow past conversations, especially as a third person. > > It would be very helpful if you could demonstrate KAS principles in > Bill Gates chart, with focus to his career as businessman and his > wealth. > > Many thanks, > > Amit > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > Please refer to what you have said and what Krushnaji has said. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > You have said > > " Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities > in > > a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > > business? " > > > > Please refer to the post that I had referred you to viz-a-viz > 901. > > I shall quote what Krushnaji has said. > > > > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING GOOD > > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. STATUS OF KARAK PLANET, > > LORD OF > > >D AND E , EFFECT OF 12TH LORD FROM 'B', NO ZERO POINTS BY ANY > PLANET > > IN ANY > > >HOUSE, MAXIMUM PLANETS WITH LESS POINTS, SO BENEFIC SIGHT EFFECT, > > 4:10 > > >RELATION SHIP, YOGKARAK (ONE PLANET HAVING LORDSHIP OF 'A' > AND 'B') > > eX MARS > > >FOR CANCER ETC. THEN THIS ASCENDING ORDER CAN GIVE GOOD RESULT. > fROM > > THE > > >ABOVE DATUM LEVEL IS FIXED, THEN HOW MUCH ABOVE ONE CAN REACH CAN > BE > > SEEN. > > >ALL THE PLANETS MUST HAVE MORE THEN 12 POINTS AS A SIGNIFICATOR > FOR > > SUCH > > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 WILL > > GIVE GOOD > > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. > > KRUSHNA " > > > > > > , " amitavikrama " > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those > previous > > > discussions on this forum. > > > > > > However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of > > > explanations given actually show that one should have rising DBCE > > > points to be a successful entrepreneur. > > > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors > of > > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case > as > > > you > > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > > namvasa > > > > of shani. > > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > > house, > > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled > by > > > 1st > > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > > > > Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee > > > success in business. I think my mum has a better personality than > > > Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-) > > > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are > more > > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > > > > > > > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, > you > > > will know that he was never in debt. > > > > > > Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities > in > > a > > > chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > > business? > > > > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Amit, > > > > Welcome to the group. > > > > > > > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You > can > > > go > > > > through the following posts from the archives. > > > > > > > > #735, > > > > #785, > > > > #885, > > > > #901, > > > > #901 > > > > > > > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and around > > the > > > > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and > > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are > more > > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has 36. > > > > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in sectors > of > > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case > as > > > you > > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > > namvasa > > > > of shani. > > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > > house, > > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled > by > > > 1st > > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such > intersting > > > > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons > and > > > > also visit Donnas website @ > > > > > > > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " amitavikrama " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello friends, > > > > > > > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that one > of > > > the > > > > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points of > > > houses > > > > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > > > > businessmen > > > > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The > points > > > are > > > > > in random order in this case. > > > > > > > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to experts > > in > > > > this > > > > > forum to share their views. > > > > > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > > > > > > > > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 The success of Bill Gates can be explained by vipareeta raja yoga (VRY) in his chart. This has been a well known fact amongst astrologers using Parashari methods. I don't think we can explain it based on ashtakavarga alone, unless somebody else on this group has different ideas. Regards Amit , " amitavikrama " <amitavikrama> wrote: > > Dear Ash: > > Why do you assume that I have not read the chapters in your file > section? > > I am new to ashtagavarga as a prediction tool, but not vedic > astrology. I have been studying this shastra for years. > > As you may agree, if reading literature answered all questions, what > is the necessity of such a discussion group? > > With this thought, I will leave it to krushna ji to answer my > questions (esp. re: Bill Gates chart) or pursue my study on > ashtakavarga from some other source. > > Many thanks for your time, > > Amit > > > , Ash <ashsam73> > wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > If you go to the file section and download the lessons and go step > by step I beleive your confusions will get cleared. > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > amitavikrama <amitavikrama> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash: > > > > Well, I was only checking my understanding. As you know, I am not > > expert; I'm still learning KAS. > > > > I did read the posts. > > > > > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING > GOOD > > > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. > > > > Now, the very line is confusing to me. Does it mean rising DBCE > > points is a requirement always ( ie a must), but there are other > > factors such as karkatwas and lordships to make a final judgement? > > > > Or > > > > Does it mean that rising DBCE points is one of the " desired > fearures " > > but the final judgement depends on a host of other factors? > > > > > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 > WILL > > > GIVE GOOD > > > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. > > > > Further adds to my confusion. > > > > > > Can you please clarify the above again? It is sometimes hard to > > follow past conversations, especially as a third person. > > > > It would be very helpful if you could demonstrate KAS principles in > > Bill Gates chart, with focus to his career as businessman and his > > wealth. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > Please refer to what you have said and what Krushnaji has said. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > You have said > > > " Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial qualities > > in > > > a chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > > > business? " > > > > > > Please refer to the post that I had referred you to viz-a-viz > > 901. > > > I shall quote what Krushnaji has said. > > > > > > " > > NOW DEAR SANJAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIRMENT FOR HAVING > GOOD > > > >RESULT, IT ALONE CANNOT CONTROL THE THING. STATUS OF KARAK > PLANET, > > > LORD OF > > > >D AND E , EFFECT OF 12TH LORD FROM 'B', NO ZERO POINTS BY ANY > > PLANET > > > IN ANY > > > >HOUSE, MAXIMUM PLANETS WITH LESS POINTS, SO BENEFIC SIGHT > EFFECT, > > > 4:10 > > > >RELATION SHIP, YOGKARAK (ONE PLANET HAVING LORDSHIP OF 'A' > > AND 'B') > > > eX MARS > > > >FOR CANCER ETC. THEN THIS ASCENDING ORDER CAN GIVE GOOD RESULT. > > fROM > > > THE > > > >ABOVE DATUM LEVEL IS FIXED, THEN HOW MUCH ABOVE ONE CAN REACH > CAN > > BE > > > SEEN. > > > >ALL THE PLANETS MUST HAVE MORE THEN 12 POINTS AS A SIGNIFICATOR > > FOR > > > SUCH > > > >HOUSE. THEN THE INCREASEING ORDER OF THE POINTS IN 3:6:10:11 > WILL > > > GIVE GOOD > > > >RESULT, AND PERSON WILL NOT FACE ANY DIFFICULTY FOR THAT HOUSE. > > > KRUSHNA " > > > > > > > > > , " amitavikrama " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for showering with info & providing all those > > previous > > > > discussions on this forum. > > > > > > > > However, I should say that its still a hazy picture. None of > > > > explanations given actually show that one should have rising > DBCE > > > > points to be a successful entrepreneur. > > > > > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in > sectors > > of > > > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case > > as > > > > you > > > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > > > namvasa > > > > > of shani. > > > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > > > house, > > > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled > > by > > > > 1st > > > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally agree. But a good personality alone does not guarantee > > > > success in business. I think my mum has a better personality > than > > > > Mr.Gates, but she has been a housewife all her life :-) > > > > > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are > > more > > > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has > 36. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you look at Microsoft's financial reports of last 25 years, > > you > > > > will know that he was never in debt. > > > > > > > > Therefore, rising DBCE points may give entrepreneurial > qualities > > in > > > a > > > > chart, but it is not final dictum to decide one's success in > > > business? > > > > > > > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Amit, > > > > > Welcome to the group. > > > > > > > > > > This question has been addressed by Krushnaji at length. You > > can > > > > go > > > > > through the following posts from the archives. > > > > > > > > > > #735, > > > > > #785, > > > > > #885, > > > > > #901, > > > > > #901 > > > > > > > > > > I might have missed a few but go through the list in and > around > > > the > > > > > times those exchanges took place between Sanjay Jaggia and > > > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > Also in this chart see the DBCE points from Sun. They are in > > > > > ascending order. Lagna points are 36. 12th house points are > > more > > > > > than 11th in SAV. 2nd house has 35 points and 3rd house has > 36. > > > > > > > > > > For shrewdness you look at lagna, sun, moon falling in > sectors > > of > > > > > Shani in Navamsa, Drekkhana and Trishansha. Here in this case > > as > > > > you > > > > > rightly said the brilliance can be see. > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa lagna rising is capriron ruled by shani, sun is in > > > > namvasa > > > > > of shani. > > > > > In Drekkhana sun is in aquarius ruled by Shani. So 3 sectors > > > > > > > > > > Lagna, sun, moon are all in sectors of Guru in Trishansha. > > > > > > > > > > When DBCE points are rising for a house and when we take 3rd > > > house, > > > > > 6th house , 10th house and 11th house then the karaktwa ruled > > by > > > > 1st > > > > > house good. First house deals with personality. > > > > > > > > > > If you go through the archives there are lots of such > > intersting > > > > > exchanges. Also in the file section you can download lessons > > and > > > > > also visit Donnas website @ > > > > > > > > > > http://www.krushna.sageasita.com > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " amitavikrama " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to KAS. Krushna ji mentions in many places that > one > > of > > > > the > > > > > > key features for being an entrepreneur is that the points > of > > > > houses > > > > > > 3,6,10,11 should be in increasing order. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at the chart of Mr. Bill Gates, the shrewest > > > > > businessmen > > > > > > of our times [28/10/1955, 21.10, 122W20, 47N36 PST]. The > > points > > > > are > > > > > > in random order in this case. > > > > > > > > > > > > I could be missing something. Hence I look forward to > experts > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > forum to share their views. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good fortune, > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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