results based on date of first trade

[Guest guest]

Data presented for SYMC(symantec).

 

NOTE the huge drop on 12/14/2004 both in price and SV points.

 

There was another huge drop in price on 12/17/2004 when the SV points

for the previous day had dipped below 187 ( the low price for this

day is provided next to the closing price) but the price has

rebounded by the close.

 

--------------------------

DATE Sum of SV points opening price

10/5/2004 185 28.225

10/6/2004 185 28.125

10/7/2004 200 28.57

10/8/2004 200 28.265

10/11/2004 194 27.4

10/12/2004 203 27.28

10/13/2004 203 28

10/14/2004 207 26.825

10/15/2004 207 27.065

10/18/2004 209 26.935

10/19/2004 209 28

10/20/2004 209 27.685

10/21/2004 201 28.4995

10/22/2004 201 29.815

10/25/2004 218 29.275

10/26/2004 218 29.275

10/27/2004 224 29.58

10/28/2004 224 30.125

10/29/2004 224 29.475

11/1/2004 184 28.805

11/2/2004 188 29.455

11/3/2004 188 30.125

11/4/2004 203 29.545

11/5/2004 203 30.275

11/8/2004 202 30.335

11/9/2004 202 30.295

11/10/2004 202 30.0825

11/11/2004 206 30.13

11/12/2004 206 30.75

11/15/2004 204 30.56

11/16/2004 190 30.445

11/17/2004 182 30.4375

11/18/2004 186 30.535

11/19/2004 191 31.05

11/22/2004 198 30.64

11/23/2004 204 30.79

11/24/2004 216 31.435

11/26/2004 204 31.64

11/29/2004 190 32.105

11/30/2004 190 31.83

12/1/2004 205 32.36

12/2/2004 205 32.94

12/3/2004 199 33.6

12/6/2004 192 33.52

12/7/2004 192 34

12/8/2004 196 32.88

12/9/2004 196 32.499

12/10/2004 182 31.56

12/13/2004 194 32.38

12/14/2004 172 29.89

12/15/2004 184 28.2

12/16/2004 189 25.95

12/17/2004 175 25.24

12/20/2004 182 25.46 24.04(intra-day huge drop in price)

12/21/2004 188 24.13

[Guest guest]

Hello Vijay

 

Why did you take the open price rather than the close

price?

 

In the final analysis the performance is considered

with respect to the close price. aint it?

 

regards,

Amitabh.

 

--- childofdevi <childofdevi wrote:

 

>

> Data presented for SYMC(symantec).

>

> NOTE the huge drop on 12/14/2004 both in price and

> SV points.

>

> There was another huge drop in price on 12/17/2004

> when the SV points

> for the previous day had dipped below 187 ( the low

> price for this

> day is provided next to the closing price) but the

> price has

> rebounded by the close.

>

>

--------------------------

> DATE Sum of SV points opening price

> 10/5/2004 185 28.225

> 10/6/2004 185 28.125

> 10/7/2004 200 28.57

> 10/8/2004 200 28.265

> 10/11/2004 194 27.4

> 10/12/2004 203 27.28

> 10/13/2004 203 28

> 10/14/2004 207 26.825

> 10/15/2004 207 27.065

> 10/18/2004 209 26.935

> 10/19/2004 209 28

> 10/20/2004 209 27.685

> 10/21/2004 201 28.4995

> 10/22/2004 201 29.815

> 10/25/2004 218 29.275

> 10/26/2004 218 29.275

> 10/27/2004 224 29.58

> 10/28/2004 224 30.125

> 10/29/2004 224 29.475

> 11/1/2004 184 28.805

> 11/2/2004 188 29.455

> 11/3/2004 188 30.125

> 11/4/2004 203 29.545

> 11/5/2004 203 30.275

> 11/8/2004 202 30.335

> 11/9/2004 202 30.295

> 11/10/2004 202 30.0825

> 11/11/2004 206 30.13

> 11/12/2004 206 30.75

> 11/15/2004 204 30.56

> 11/16/2004 190 30.445

> 11/17/2004 182 30.4375

> 11/18/2004 186 30.535

> 11/19/2004 191 31.05

> 11/22/2004 198 30.64

> 11/23/2004 204 30.79

> 11/24/2004 216 31.435

> 11/26/2004 204 31.64

> 11/29/2004 190 32.105

> 11/30/2004 190 31.83

> 12/1/2004 205 32.36

> 12/2/2004 205 32.94

> 12/3/2004 199 33.6

> 12/6/2004 192 33.52

> 12/7/2004 192 34

> 12/8/2004 196 32.88

> 12/9/2004 196 32.499

> 12/10/2004 182 31.56

> 12/13/2004 194 32.38

> 12/14/2004 172 29.89

> 12/15/2004 184 28.2

> 12/16/2004 189 25.95

> 12/17/2004 175 25.24

> 12/20/2004 182 25.46 24.04(intra-day huge drop in

> price)

> 12/21/2004 188 24.13

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amitabh,

 

You are right, I should be taking the closing prices since that is

more reflective of the stock value, but over this time period I did

not find much difference between open and close prices; and also

since I was summing up the points at 8am, I thought the open prices

are closer to the price at this time than the close.

 

I only took open prices in both the comparisons.

 

In both cases, I did find it interesting that when the points went

below 170, the price plunged. I am in the process of checking it for

a longer time frame.

 

Regards

-Vijay

 

 

, Amitabh Choudhury

<amitabh_astro> wrote:

> Hello Vijay

>

> Why did you take the open price rather than the close

> price?

>

> In the final analysis the performance is considered

> with respect to the close price. aint it?

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay,

 

Thank you for this research. I took first trading date as chart and went back from December 2003 till December 2004.

 

As you can see, there were few ups and downs in SAV points, but not in prices. It was relatively stable time.... I think that it was due to Sa + Ju in transit (10 points).

 

However, from September Sa+Ju in transit gave only 5 points, and then (protection shield was removed) so when SAV went up, it was fine. But, when SAV went down, it was really bad....

 

However, I am eager to get aditional info from Krushna.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

 

-

childofdevi

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:52 AM

Re: results based on date of first trade

 

In both cases, I did find it interesting that when the points went below 170, the price plunged. I am in the process of checking it for a longer time frame.Regards-Vijay

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay, Ash and Dadhi,

 

Thanks and that was a good one.

 

If one of you can post all the sav points and points for Ju

and Sa for all the houses, I can calculate transit points for

Jan 2005 and post it on the list in few days.

 

Just my 2 cents

Bala

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi:

 

This is interesting info. I just came to the same conclusion about

why it was so sensitive to SAV points from September.

 

I too did the calculation for a whole year (Nov 2003 to Dec 2004) and

generally there is some correlation between SAV points and price with

both first trade date and date of incorporation but it is certainly

not one is to one.

 

The correlation coefficient between SAV points for this period and

closing price is 0.41, meaning that there is most certainly a

correlation.

 

If there is some shielding effect due to Ju+Sa, then should we use

different weighing factors for Ju and Sa instead of 1(meaning instead

of using 1x SAV points for the house, use another weight say 1.5 or 2

for more influential planets and 0.8 or 0.5 for less influential

planets)??

 

 

There could be a number of other reasons- that the date shown is not

correct(though I cross checked with some other sources) or that I

made some calculation errors too.

 

Anyhow I will do the same thing for India(since the date is well

known) and see if there is any correlation between market movement

and SAV of transits.

 

-Vijay

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Thank you for this research. I took first trading date as chart and

went back from December 2003 till December 2004.

>

> As you can see, there were few ups and downs in SAV points, but not

in prices. It was relatively stable time.... I think that it was due

to Sa + Ju in transit (10 points).

>

> However, from September Sa+Ju in transit gave only 5 points, and

then (protection shield was removed) so when SAV went up, it was

fine. But, when SAV went down, it was really bad....

>

> However, I am eager to get aditional info from Krushna.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bala:

 

Here are the SAV points for the houses (from Ar to Pi) based on the

date of incorporation.

 

20(Aries)

27

20

28

30

26

38

24

24

33

35

32

 

Sav points for each house based on the date of first trade:

 

41(aries)

29

15

30

24

29

33

19

31

23

28

35

 

 

Best wishes,

Vijay

 

 

, " bsosale "

<bsosale> wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay, Ash and Dadhi,

>

> Thanks and that was a good one.

>

> If one of you can post all the sav points and points for Ju

> and Sa for all the houses, I can calculate transit points for

> Jan 2005 and post it on the list in few days.

>

> Just my 2 cents

> Bala

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay,

 

Thanks and also post the points for Ju and Sat for the various

houses.

 

Bala.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

 

I too came to the same conclusion after comparing the SAV points

tally with the closing price over one year. There was a 0.41

correlation coefficient between the two (meaning there is some

correlation but not one to one).

 

If there is the shielding effect due to Jupiter and Saturn, then

should we be using differeing weighing factors for each planet ; some

planets may have more influence than others so each planet's

contribution should be weighted with some factor (maybe the

individual shadbala).

 

There may also be a number of reasons for the error - for instance

the date given could be wrong(though I cross checked with some other

sources and found it to be the same).

 

I will do the same calculation for India (since we are very sure sure

of the date of birth) and see if there is any correlation.

 

I too wait for Krushnaji to provide additional information and also

remaining lessons.

 

-Vijay

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Thank you for this research. I took first trading date as chart and

went back from December 2003 till December 2004.

>

> As you can see, there were few ups and downs in SAV points, but not

in prices. It was relatively stable time.... I think that it was due

to Sa + Ju in transit (10 points).

>

> However, from September Sa+Ju in transit gave only 5 points, and

then (protection shield was removed) so when SAV went up, it was

fine. But, when SAV went down, it was really bad....

>

> However, I am eager to get aditional info from Krushna.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi, Vijay, Amitabh and list members,

I did think of a few more things based on what has been taught so

far. I just tried to apply it to a company instead of a person. I

realised that we did not have a list like lesson 4 where what each

house means.

Shani and Guru points I would think is a very important factor for

any financials or when judgeing financial aspect.

 

I was also trying to thinking of all factors that would be involved

that would or could affect a stock rise.

 

Say a company gets or bags a huge order and a press release is sent

then in that case such a news might affect the price rise of the

stock. Here we probably need to see timing of events viz - a - viz

baging an order or wining a huge contract.

 

What about mergers and acquisitions. Recently Peoplesoft was brought

over by Oracle. I do not have data for both the companies. Here the

stocks of both companies rose. Here this was an acquistion.

Similarly what about mergers ...

 

I do think we need a list of what each house means to start when

studying a chart of a company.

 

Now Shani and Guru rule last 4 houses of kal purush chart. So its

quite critical to study that closely that is what I feel. Daily

points I feel should be studied keeping in mind the antra running.

 

Also Desh/kaal/patra principle is important. Christmas time buyers,

401K end time or say RRSP time for Canadians people go out and get

stocks, that may also affect the prices of the stocks. So certains

months should be kept in mind.

 

It would also be a good study if u could study the huge fall or whats

called the Black October crash of October 24th - 29th 1929 and also

black monday crash of 1987 of DOW Jones Again its October 19th. So

why October month ?

 

Also its noted that investors become jittery during the month of

october so I guess we should also keep such things in mind.

 

Cases like Enron could be good study. Effects of legals battle could

also be studied for compaines like Microsoft.

 

But I think the legal battles should be seen in the company chart and

for that we should be able to time such events. The daily points

reflection could be telling us something about that also.

 

Also what happens when Shani or Mars transits a house with 0

points ? Say when you cast the chart of incorporation date and there

are zeroes in the chart i.e in SAV. Then one should be able to read

the daily points changes w.r.t to keeping in mind the Transit of Sa

or Ma over the house with 0 points.

 

These are just some my thoughts in continuation of this intersting

topic.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

, " childofdevi "

<childofdevi> wrote:

>

> Dear Dadhi:

>

> This is interesting info. I just came to the same conclusion about

> why it was so sensitive to SAV points from September.

>

> I too did the calculation for a whole year (Nov 2003 to Dec 2004)

and

> generally there is some correlation between SAV points and price

with

> both first trade date and date of incorporation but it is certainly

> not one is to one.

>

> The correlation coefficient between SAV points for this period and

> closing price is 0.41, meaning that there is most certainly a

> correlation.

>

> If there is some shielding effect due to Ju+Sa, then should we use

> different weighing factors for Ju and Sa instead of 1(meaning

instead

> of using 1x SAV points for the house, use another weight say 1.5 or

2

> for more influential planets and 0.8 or 0.5 for less influential

> planets)??

>

>

> There could be a number of other reasons- that the date shown is

not

> correct(though I cross checked with some other sources) or that I

> made some calculation errors too.

>

> Anyhow I will do the same thing for India(since the date is well

> known) and see if there is any correlation between market movement

> and SAV of transits.

>

> -Vijay

>

>

> , " Dadhi "

<denis@d...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Thank you for this research. I took first trading date as chart

and

> went back from December 2003 till December 2004.

> >

> > As you can see, there were few ups and downs in SAV points, but

not

> in prices. It was relatively stable time.... I think that it was

due

> to Sa + Ju in transit (10 points).

> >

> > However, from September Sa+Ju in transit gave only 5 points, and

> then (protection shield was removed) so when SAV went up, it was

> fine. But, when SAV went down, it was really bad....

> >

> > However, I am eager to get aditional info from Krushna.

> >

> > All the best,

> > Dadhi

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi, Amitabh, Vijay and all,

 

Some more thoughts on Shani and Guru to share / brain storm.

 

Shani and Guru rule last 4 houses of kal purush chart. They are

karaks for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th house. So their transit is very

important. Now what do 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th houses mean for a

company ? 2nd is wealth of company ?, 3rd is it new initiatives, 4th

is it property in the name of company, 5th is it stocks, or say

windfall gains for the company, 9th is it luck of the company, 10th

is it authority of the company, 11th is it income / success of the

company and 12th is it expenses or luxuries. Like we need a list

what these houses mean or signify for a company.

 

Mars and Shanis transit over a house with 0 points is also going to

be of a lot of significance. Mars rules 1st which is karak for 6th,

and 8th i.e. Karak for 1st and Sa rules 10th and 11th so Karak for

3rd and 4th house. These are NK's and we also need to see the

Functional Karaks and that would be based on the chart. The points

in the Worksheet, status of planets etc, suns transit and then

points, I think all factors should be considered in total to

understand what the points could mean. These are my thoughts only.

 

For example say the daily points are low say < 180 and at the same

time in the WS the antra running and that planet has high points for

10th and 3rd house and less for say 12th house. Then it could mean

that the native is very busy and he is overloaded with work. He

might not even have time to eat his meals. Now add to the above

scenario the antra running is say of 2nd lord then there will be

worries.

 

So what does a similar thing mean for a company say the antra running

for the company has high points for 10th house and 3rd house and also

6th house.

 

Now would it mean that the company's 6th house is triggering so does

it mean that the company gets a job or a task to do and at the same

tpoint the 10th house points are high so does it mean that it will

get good authority due to that now if this is big (status) then maybe

a press release by that company could affect the price of the stocks ?

 

Here if say the daily poitns are less points then does it mean means

that the company is under pressure to meet dead lines ?

 

Say if the points of Shani and Guru are < 8 then could it mean that

say employees of the company might say go on strike or say might not

co-operate or as in one post Amitabh said that things may not go

smoothly as per say project plan ?

 

Here is where the knowledge of KAS is important and we need to

understand how to interpret the points and what it means.

 

Just some thoughts that came to mind and I am sharing or can say

thinking out loud ...

 

What are your opinions....

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " childofdevi "

<childofdevi> wrote:

>

> Dear Dadhi,

>

> I too came to the same conclusion after comparing the SAV points

> tally with the closing price over one year. There was a 0.41

> correlation coefficient between the two (meaning there is some

> correlation but not one to one).

>

> If there is the shielding effect due to Jupiter and Saturn, then

> should we be using differeing weighing factors for each planet ;

some

> planets may have more influence than others so each planet's

> contribution should be weighted with some factor (maybe the

> individual shadbala).

>

> There may also be a number of reasons for the error - for instance

> the date given could be wrong(though I cross checked with some

other

> sources and found it to be the same).

>

> I will do the same calculation for India (since we are very sure

sure

> of the date of birth) and see if there is any correlation.

>

> I too wait for Krushnaji to provide additional information and also

> remaining lessons.

>

> -Vijay

>

>

> , " Dadhi "

<denis@d...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Thank you for this research. I took first trading date as chart

and

> went back from December 2003 till December 2004.

> >

> > As you can see, there were few ups and downs in SAV points, but

not

> in prices. It was relatively stable time.... I think that it was

due

> to Sa + Ju in transit (10 points).

> >

> > However, from September Sa+Ju in transit gave only 5 points, and

> then (protection shield was removed) so when SAV went up, it was

> fine. But, when SAV went down, it was really bad....

> >

> > However, I am eager to get aditional info from Krushna.

> >

> > All the best,

> > Dadhi

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

I took a look at the chart of NYSE and during its Vimshottari dasha

for the 1987 black Monday stock crash; I could not see anything that

stood out saying that it was a bad time for stocks.

 

I was also reading a book on Vedic astrology by Dr. Charak and as a

beginner this is an outstanding book written meticulously and

thoroughly. Dr. Charak is of the opinion that Astakavarga can only be

applied after look at the natal chart and seeing how the current

dasha is going. In other words Astakavarga cannot stand alone by

itself- what is the opinion of members on this?(other authors do not

seem to imply this)

 

Thanks very much for your detailed thoughts on them; I will study

them carefully and see how i can apply them.

 

With best wishes,

Vijay

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

>

> Dear Dadhi, Vijay, Amitabh and list members,

> I did think of a few more things based on what has been taught so

> far. I just tried to apply it to a company instead of a person. I

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay,

What data are you using for NYSE ?

What ayanamsa are you using ?

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " childofdevi "

<childofdevi> wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> I took a look at the chart of NYSE and during its Vimshottari dasha

> for the 1987 black Monday stock crash; I could not see anything

that

> stood out saying that it was a bad time for stocks.

>

> I was also reading a book on Vedic astrology by Dr. Charak and as a

> beginner this is an outstanding book written meticulously and

> thoroughly. Dr. Charak is of the opinion that Astakavarga can only

be

> applied after look at the natal chart and seeing how the current

> dasha is going. In other words Astakavarga cannot stand alone by

> itself- what is the opinion of members on this?(other authors do

not

> seem to imply this)

>

> Thanks very much for your detailed thoughts on them; I will study

> them carefully and see how i can apply them.

>

> With best wishes,

> Vijay

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dadhi, Vijay, Amitabh and list members,

> > I did think of a few more things based on what has been taught so

> > far. I just tried to apply it to a company instead of a person.

I

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash

 

Birth data for NYSE - 5(month)/17(day)/1792, 8:52 EST NY (this was

obtained from the book Stock Market Analysis by RGKrishnan, who in

turn got it from Financial astrology by David Williams).

 

OK, now that you mentioned ayanamsha, I recall from the lessons that

we are supposed to use Krushna-ayanamsha; I used Lahiri ( I think

this would not make much difference to the Rasi, to the other

Divisional charts, it may impact a great deal).

 

Also I looked at the Gochara effects for SYMC; the day of the big

drop in the week of 12/13/04, sun transits into the 12th house

(relative to natal moon), which is a bad. The same transit happened

on Dec 17th 2003, at which time as well there was a big drop in the

price. Looking at the transit of sun into the 12th in the year of

2002, there was no big drop and this was due to Mercury being in the

12th(good for gains).

 

With best wishes,

Vijay

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay,

> What data are you using for NYSE ?

> What ayanamsa are you using ?

> Thanks,