Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Dear Jay and List members, Please refer to the following post and all exchanges that Late Peter Sutcliffe and Krushnaji had and the heading of the exchange is " Ashatvarg System " The exchange starts from here. /message/428 Cheers !!! Ash , Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote: > Dear Ash and friends, > > Please note various notable things like vargottam mars in debilitation (effects), planetry war(effects), neech bhanga of two planets, budh-aditya yoga, weak moon and effect of all these on native and various departments of life. > I will welcome any query regarding life and events of this person as i know this person for quite some time now. > > Regards > > Jay. > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Jay and List Members, > Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the lessons ? > It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want to > learn KAS. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Jay Nahata > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by natural > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation of the > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > through. > > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi. > > Female. 5'8 " . Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack of > family comforts,etc. > > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?) > > I will put my analysis following yours. > > > > regards > > > > Jay. > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Jay, > > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 charts. No > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that but > was > > unable to confirm the timing. > > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > navamsa > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native might > have > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS. > > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long back > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the first > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have multiple > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of planets > then > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not break > and > > then you can time the " extra maritial " relations. > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say. > > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not find in > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in Krittika, > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Jay Nahata > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply. > > > Next time I will try to read those two lines. > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Jay, > > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group please > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what promise > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is to > see > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. You > can > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc. > > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you can say > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. The > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event you > can > > pin point using KAS. > > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct denial > of > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. Follow > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date. > > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house or > lord > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child etc > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to time > it > > when it will occur u can use KAS. > > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the archives and > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the same > time > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native may > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw about > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the poitns > in > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native can > > overcome them. > > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at the > same > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns are > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are high... > if > > that came to you what would you predict ? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > Hahahahaaaaa... > > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years. > > > I was talking only about KAS. > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology lol... > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > enviable. > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side. > > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > particular > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover we can > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen. > > > > Am I right ? > > > > Waiting for your 'reply'. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Dear Jay and List members, Please refer to This post onwards. The name of the thread is " A complete study of a chart " and its spilt by Krushaji into 3 or 4 other mails as the exercise is very detailed. In any case the message post starts from here. Please go through all the exchanges. /message/519 Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Jay and List members, > > Please refer to the following post and all exchanges that Late Peter > Sutcliffe and Krushnaji had and the heading of the exchange > is " Ashatvarg System " > > The exchange starts from here. > > /message/428 > > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , Jay Nahata > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > Dear Ash and friends, > > > > Please note various notable things like vargottam mars in > debilitation (effects), planetry war(effects), neech bhanga of two > planets, budh-aditya yoga, weak moon and effect of all these on > native and various departments of life. > > I will welcome any query regarding life and events of this person > as i know this person for quite some time now. > > > > Regards > > > > Jay. > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Jay and List Members, > > Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the lessons ? > > It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want to > > learn KAS. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Jay Nahata > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by natural > > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation of > the > > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > > through. > > > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi. > > > Female. 5'8 " . Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack of > > family comforts,etc. > > > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?) > > > I will put my analysis following yours. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 charts. > No > > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that but > > was > > > unable to confirm the timing. > > > > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > > navamsa > > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native might > > have > > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS. > > > > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long back > > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the first > > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have > multiple > > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of planets > > then > > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not break > > and > > > then you can time the " extra maritial " relations. > > > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say. > > > > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not find > in > > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in Krittika, > > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply. > > > > Next time I will try to read those two lines. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group > please > > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what > promise > > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is to > > see > > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. You > > can > > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you can > say > > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. The > > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event you > > can > > > pin point using KAS. > > > > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct > denial > > of > > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. > Follow > > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date. > > > > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house or > > lord > > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child etc > > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to time > > it > > > when it will occur u can use KAS. > > > > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the archives > and > > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the same > > time > > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native may > > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw about > > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the poitns > > in > > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native can > > > overcome them. > > > > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at the > > same > > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns > are > > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are high... > > if > > > that came to you what would you predict ? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Hahahahaaaaa... > > > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years. > > > > I was talking only about KAS. > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology > lol... > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > > enviable. > > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side. > > > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > > particular > > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover we > can > > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen. > > > > > Am I right ? > > > > > Waiting for your 'reply'. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Thanks Ash.ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Jay and List members,Please refer to the following post and all exchanges that Late Peter Sutcliffe and Krushnaji had and the heading of the exchange is "Ashatvarg System"The exchange starts from here./message/428Cheers !!!Ash , Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote:> Dear Ash and friends,> > Please note various notable things like vargottam mars in debilitation (effects), planetry war(effects), neech bhanga of two planets, budh-aditya yoga, weak moon and effect of all these on native and various departments of life.> I will welcome any query regarding life and events of this person as i know this person for quite some time now. > > Regards> > Jay.> > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Jay and List Members,> Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the lessons ?> It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want to > learn KAS.> Cheers !!!> Ash> > , Jay Nahata > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > Dear Ash,> > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by natural > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation of the > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > through.> > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi.> > Female. 5'8". Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack of > family comforts,etc.> > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?)> > I will put my analysis following yours.> > > > regards> > > > Jay.> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > Jay,> > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 charts. No > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that but > was > > unable to confirm the timing.> > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > navamsa > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native might > have > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS.> > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long back > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the first > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have multiple > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of planets > then > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not break > and > > then you can time the "extra maritial" relations. > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say.> > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not find in > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in Krittika, > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > , Jay Nahata > > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply.> > > Next time I will try to read those two lines.> > > Thanks again.> > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > Dear Jay,> > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group please > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what promise > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is to > see > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. You > can > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc.> > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you can say > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. The > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event you > can > > pin point using KAS.> > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct denial > of > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. Follow > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date.> > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house or > lord > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child etc > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to time > it > > when it will occur u can use KAS.> > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the archives and > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the same > time > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native may > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw about > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the poitns > in > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native can > > overcome them.> > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at the > same > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns are > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are high... > if > > that came to you what would you predict ?> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > Hahahahaaaaa...> > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years.> > > I was talking only about KAS.> > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jay,> > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology lol...> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > enviable. > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side.> > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > particular > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover we can > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen.> > > > Am I right ?> > > > Waiting for your 'reply'.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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