Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 just to make it clear that I tried on the chart given by Jay. one more thing i noticed is that the lagna has 39 points ans 7th house has 18 points in SAV indicating a self-centered person with a very high ego might try to dominate spouse always, so unhappiness in marriage is also indicated. note that i might be wrong too as I am just a learner. --Manoshi , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > just touching the basics according to KAS, not the timing or > anything, just the basics as I have learnt (still in learning > process). > > venus is with jupiter and saturn, both delay causing planets --- so > delay in marriage, but no zeroes in the charts (a positive feature). > > venus and sun are more than 43 degrees apart indicating a spoilt > venus, in conjunction with saturn making the case worse, but with > jupiter, the native trying to give a good impression always. > multiple relationships are clearly indicated. > > Am I right Ash? if not...correct me. > > --Manoshi > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Jay and List Members, > > Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the lessons ? > > It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want > to > > learn KAS. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Jay Nahata > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by natural > > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation of > the > > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > > through. > > > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi. > > > Female. 5'8 " . Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack > of > > family comforts,etc. > > > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?) > > > I will put my analysis following yours. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 charts. > No > > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that > but > > was > > > unable to confirm the timing. > > > > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > > navamsa > > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native might > > have > > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS. > > > > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long back > > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the first > > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have > multiple > > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of planets > > then > > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not break > > and > > > then you can time the " extra maritial " relations. > > > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say. > > > > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not find > in > > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in > Krittika, > > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply. > > > > Next time I will try to read those two lines. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group > please > > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what > promise > > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is to > > see > > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. > You > > can > > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you can > say > > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. > The > > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event > you > > can > > > pin point using KAS. > > > > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct > denial > > of > > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. > Follow > > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date. > > > > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house or > > lord > > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child etc > > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to > time > > it > > > when it will occur u can use KAS. > > > > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the archives > and > > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the same > > time > > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native > may > > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw about > > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the > poitns > > in > > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native can > > > overcome them. > > > > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at the > > same > > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns > are > > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are > high... > > if > > > that came to you what would you predict ? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Hahahahaaaaa... > > > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years. > > > > I was talking only about KAS. > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology > lol... > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > > enviable. > > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side. > > > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > > particular > > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover we > can > > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen. > > > > > Am I right ? > > > > > Waiting for your 'reply'. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Dear Manoshi, Yes you are on the right track. You have picked up things correctly. I think there maybe small setting issue. You have have the option of Parasara set up. Cast this chart using the KAS WS and it will cast the chart using the parameters we are using i.e with KAY and Varharamihras BAV Scheme. Her Moon and Sun are together (krishna pax moon) and both are aspected by Rahu. She is supposed to be in love from the past 4 years so say after June 2000 i.e. inside Shani antra (Taurus lagna). Shani is LoE for 5th as B. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > just to make it clear that I tried on the chart given by Jay. one > more thing i noticed is that the lagna has 39 points ans 7th house > has 18 points in SAV indicating a self-centered person with a very > high ego might try to dominate spouse always, so unhappiness in > marriage is also indicated. > > note that i might be wrong too as I am just a learner. > > --Manoshi > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > just touching the basics according to KAS, not the timing or > > anything, just the basics as I have learnt (still in learning > > process). > > > > venus is with jupiter and saturn, both delay causing planets --- > so > > delay in marriage, but no zeroes in the charts (a positive > feature). > > > > venus and sun are more than 43 degrees apart indicating a spoilt > > venus, in conjunction with saturn making the case worse, but with > > jupiter, the native trying to give a good impression always. > > multiple relationships are clearly indicated. > > > > Am I right Ash? if not...correct me. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jay and List Members, > > > Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the > lessons ? > > > It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want > > to > > > learn KAS. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by > natural > > > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation > of > > the > > > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > > > through. > > > > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi. > > > > Female. 5'8 " . Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack > > of > > > family comforts,etc. > > > > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?) > > > > I will put my analysis following yours. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 > charts. > > No > > > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that > > but > > > was > > > > unable to confirm the timing. > > > > > > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > > > navamsa > > > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native > might > > > have > > > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS. > > > > > > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long > back > > > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the > first > > > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have > > multiple > > > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of > planets > > > then > > > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not > break > > > and > > > > then you can time the " extra maritial " relations. > > > > > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say. > > > > > > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not > find > > in > > > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in > > Krittika, > > > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply. > > > > > Next time I will try to read those two lines. > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group > > please > > > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what > > promise > > > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is > to > > > see > > > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. > > You > > > can > > > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you > can > > say > > > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. > > The > > > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event > > you > > > can > > > > pin point using KAS. > > > > > > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct > > denial > > > of > > > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. > > Follow > > > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date. > > > > > > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house > or > > > lord > > > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child > etc > > > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to > > time > > > it > > > > when it will occur u can use KAS. > > > > > > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the > archives > > and > > > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the > same > > > time > > > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native > > may > > > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw > about > > > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the > > poitns > > > in > > > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native > can > > > > overcome them. > > > > > > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at > the > > > same > > > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns > > are > > > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are > > high... > > > if > > > > that came to you what would you predict ? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > > Hahahahaaaaa... > > > > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years. > > > > > I was talking only about KAS. > > > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology > > lol... > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > > > enviable. > > > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side. > > > > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > > > particular > > > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover > we > > can > > > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen. > > > > > > Am I right ? > > > > > > Waiting for your 'reply'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Great Manoshi ! ! ! I am learning a lot from this discussion. In the next mail I will put my analysis but according to Vedic astrology only as uptill now i have just taken one step. I hope you I will get your support in my analysis. Regards Jayashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manoshi,Yes you are on the right track. You have picked up things correctly. I think there maybe small setting issue. You have have the option of Parasara set up. Cast this chart using the KAS WS and it will cast the chart using the parameters we are using i.e with KAY and Varharamihras BAV Scheme. Her Moon and Sun are together (krishna pax moon) and both are aspected by Rahu. She is supposed to be in love from the past 4 years so say after June 2000 i.e. inside Shani antra (Taurus lagna). Shani is LoE for 5th as B.Cheers !!!Ash , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > just to make it clear that I tried on the chart given by Jay. one > more thing i noticed is that the lagna has 39 points ans 7th house > has 18 points in SAV indicating a self-centered person with a very > high ego might try to dominate spouse always, so unhappiness in > marriage is also indicated. > > note that i might be wrong too as I am just a learner.> > --Manoshi> > , "Manoshi > Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > > > just touching the basics according to KAS, not the timing or > > anything, just the basics as I have learnt (still in learning > > process). > > > > venus is with jupiter and saturn, both delay causing planets --- > so > > delay in marriage, but no zeroes in the charts (a positive > feature).> > > > venus and sun are more than 43 degrees apart indicating a spoilt > > venus, in conjunction with saturn making the case worse, but with > > jupiter, the native trying to give a good impression always. > > multiple relationships are clearly indicated.> > > > Am I right Ash? if not...correct me.> > > > --Manoshi> > > > , "ashsam73" > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jay and List Members,> > > Care to time this and solve this chart using KAS and the > lessons ?> > > It can be a good exercise in learning KAS for all those who want > > to > > > learn KAS.> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,> > > > One of the probable reasons for Ju. in libra is that by > natural > > > zodiac it is in the 7th house and vargottam means confirmation > of > > the > > > event or quality. I am giving below a peculiar chart. Kindly go > > > through.> > > > 27.08.81/ 23:30 / delhi.> > > > Female. 5'8". Fair. plump.two affairs but no physicality. lack > > of > > > family comforts,etc.> > > > Parents are concerned that she might have love-marriage.(?)> > > > I will put my analysis following yours.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > Jay,> > > > > > > > Just some time back I responded to Sailesh. He gave 2 > charts. > > No > > > > timing was given but I did cast the chart and go through that > > but > > > was > > > > unable to confirm the timing.> > > > > > > > The male chart has Ju in libra and in the first 3deg20 (Same > > > navamsa > > > > i.e. libra navamsa - Vargottam). 3 marriages. > > > > > > > > This part I would say is VA but timing of when the native > might > > > have > > > > married, divorsed/seperated/widowed u can time using KAS.> > > > > > > > There was another chart I remember solving on the list long > back > > > > where again similar thing was there Ju in libra and in the > first > > > > 3deg20 but marriage did not break but the native did have > > multiple > > > > affairs.. again if u cast that WS and see the degree of > planets > > > then > > > > it becomes clear ie.. the reason why the marriage will not > break > > > and > > > > then you can time the "extra maritial" relations. > > > > > > > > I hope you are getting the gist of what I am trying to say.> > > > > > > > Krushnaji has also given us laws in lessons that u may not > find > > in > > > > any book avaible in market today. For example Venus in > > Krittika, > > > > Guru in libra, Venus to sun distance etc etc.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > > > Thanks a lot ash. I am grateful for such a detailed reply.> > > > > Next time I will try to read those two lines.> > > > > Thanks again.> > > > > > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > Dear Jay,> > > > > There seems to be a disconnect. When u log onto the group > > please > > > > read the first 2 lines in the Description of the Group. > > > > > > > > > > Good, so then you should know by studying the chart what > > promise > > > > the chart holds. Now say for example marriage, first step is > to > > > see > > > > if the native will marry or not. For that we have a lesson. > > You > > > can > > > > look for certain thigns like 3 zeroes in SAV etc etc etc.> > > > > > > > > > Say in a chart Ju is being aspected by Ma and Sa then you > can > > say > > > > that such a native can be prone to cancer. This part is VA. > > The > > > > question is when it will manifest and the timing of the event > > you > > > can > > > > pin point using KAS.> > > > > > > > > > Say you study the chart and infer that there is no direct > > denial > > > of > > > > marriage then you can go for timing of marriage using KAS. > > Follow > > > > the laws given in the lessons and pin point the date.> > > > > > > > > > Another example, say Rahu and Mars are aspecting 11th house > or > > > lord > > > > then this can cause problems in child birth or to male child > etc > > > > etc. This portion you can see when studying a chart, now to > > time > > > it > > > > when it will occur u can use KAS.> > > > > > > > > > hmm.. another one.. and all this is discussed in the > archives > > and > > > > lessons ... for example 6th lord is in 1st house and at the > same > > > time > > > > it has good points for 1st house in Worksheet then the native > > may > > > > face enimity but he will over come them. So here you saw > about > > > > enimity but at the same time using the WS you saw that the > > poitns > > > in > > > > the 1st house in the Worksheet is more than 12 so the native > can > > > > overcome them.> > > > > > > > > > Say someone has less poitns in 6th house and 10th house at > the > > > same > > > > time Sa is transiting a house with 0 points, Shani+Guru poitns > > are > > > > less than 8, 2nd lords antra is running, daily points are > > high... > > > if > > > > that came to you what would you predict ?> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > > > Hahahahaaaaa...> > > > > No no. I myself into this(vedic astro) for last 7 years.> > > > > I was talking only about KAS.> > > > > > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Jay,> > > > > In short u have asked me to explain entire Vedic Astrology > > lol...> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > , Jay Nahata > > > > > <nahata_jay> wrote:> > > > > > Thanks for reply. I must confess your speed of replies is > > > > enviable. > > > > > Please accept whole-hearted compliment from my side.> > > > > > More than timing I am interested in knowing whether some > > > > particular > > > > > thing will happen or not.That is to say quality . Moreover > we > > can > > > > > time only that thing which is destined to happen.> > > > > > Am I right ?> > > > > > Waiting for your 'reply'.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Jay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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