Another chart-- analysis of marriage

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and all,

 

I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please analyse the

girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and mother

is suffering from cancer.

 

20th april 1981

time : 7:35 AM

place: calcutta

 

Observations and doubts:

 

venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are spoilt

(she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian quality)

 

Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a cause for

delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is lagna

lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in conjunction

should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

 

no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for seventh

house except for sun and venus ( NK).

 

saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

 

In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3 bindus so

good.

 

Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

 

 

Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results for

marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo D plays

important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much delay.

 

--Manoshi

 

-

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

What you have done in your analysis is studying the basic chart and

trying to find if the marriage will be happy or not.

 

Here Venus to Sun distance is more than 3 degrees or precicely

3deg20. If you check the navamsa also Venus and Sun are in different

navamsa. So this Venus is not spoilt.

 

Now 2nd lord is in 11th (i.e. 10th from 2nd so in primary upchaya).

7th lord is in 12th again in upachaya.

8th lord is in 5th house (i.e 10th from 8th house) again powerful and

in upchaya.

 

As per our laws we say that the result of the house owned by the

planets situated in 12th house is enhanced.

 

So here Ma, Ve and Su rule 7th, 12th , 6th and 1st and 4th the

results of which will be enhanced.

 

 

Ok. From here

 

1) Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see the

delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets.

 

2) I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in your

mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not happy

or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons)

 

3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD or LoE

can give marriage.

 

4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its a) 6th

lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

 

5) Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with Ma

and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord. AGain

as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of the

house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

bindus so effective quantum is lesser.

 

Can you take it from here.

 

Find the delay and then come to the proper antra and then narrow the

antra down to proper sector and then using suns transit u can find

the probable dates.

 

Make an attempt and dont worry if its right or wrong.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash and all,

>

> I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please analyse

the

> girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and mother

> is suffering from cancer.

>

> 20th april 1981

> time : 7:35 AM

> place: calcutta

>

> Observations and doubts:

>

> venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are spoilt

> (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian quality)

>

> Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a cause for

> delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is lagna

> lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in conjunction

> should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

>

> no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for seventh

> house except for sun and venus ( NK).

>

> saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

>

> In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3 bindus so

> good.

>

> Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

>

>

> Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results for

> marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo D plays

> important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much delay.

>

> --Manoshi

>

> -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

A Hint. Shani is at 11 deg 58 in 5th house and Guru is with this

Shani and Guru is not in navamsa or nakshtra or sign of shani and its

not in libra in both rasi and navamsa. So this Guru will check the

delay of Sa.

 

Can you take it from here ?

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> What you have done in your analysis is studying the basic chart and

> trying to find if the marriage will be happy or not.

>

> Here Venus to Sun distance is more than 3 degrees or precicely

> 3deg20. If you check the navamsa also Venus and Sun are in

different

> navamsa. So this Venus is not spoilt.

>

> Now 2nd lord is in 11th (i.e. 10th from 2nd so in primary upchaya).

> 7th lord is in 12th again in upachaya.

> 8th lord is in 5th house (i.e 10th from 8th house) again powerful

and

> in upchaya.

>

> As per our laws we say that the result of the house owned by the

> planets situated in 12th house is enhanced.

>

> So here Ma, Ve and Su rule 7th, 12th , 6th and 1st and 4th the

> results of which will be enhanced.

>

>

> Ok. From here

>

> 1) Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

> causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see the

> delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets.

>

> 2) I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in your

> mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not happy

> or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons)

>

> 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD or

LoE

> can give marriage.

>

> 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its a)

6th

> lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

>

> 5) Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with Ma

> and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

AGain

> as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of

the

> house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

> bindus so effective quantum is lesser.

>

> Can you take it from here.

>

> Find the delay and then come to the proper antra and then narrow

the

> antra down to proper sector and then using suns transit u can find

> the probable dates.

>

> Make an attempt and dont worry if its right or wrong.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

> , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Dear Ash and all,

> >

> > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please analyse

> the

> > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

mother

> > is suffering from cancer.

> >

> > 20th april 1981

> > time : 7:35 AM

> > place: calcutta

> >

> > Observations and doubts:

> >

> > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are spoilt

> > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

quality)

> >

> > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a cause

for

> > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is

lagna

> > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

conjunction

> > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> >

> > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for seventh

> > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> >

> > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> >

> > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3 bindus

so

> > good.

> >

> > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> >

> >

> > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results for

> > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo D

plays

> > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much delay.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > -

[Guest guest]

, " ashsam73 "

 

 

 

Dear Ash,

 

Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

 

>1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see the

delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

 

..... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not aspecting

LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I guess

but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does Jupiter

enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is loC so

saturn will cause delay.

 

 

>2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in

your

mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not happy

or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons) "

 

......you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before going

to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a factor

for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th lord

in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

which us not considered good, so what do we do?

LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

multiple marriage as i can see.

> 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD or

LoE

can give marriage.

 

....I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I am

right or wrong.

 

 

 

 

>

> 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its a)

6th

lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

 

.......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities of

this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as well

with Mars in 12th. what else?

 

 

> 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with

Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

AGain

as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of the

house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

 

.....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

 

 

> Can you take it from here.

 

so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am wrong tell

me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which if

gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the delay, if

I a right or not.

 

--manoshi

 

 

<> >

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and all,

> > >

> > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

analyse

> > the

> > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

> mother

> > > is suffering from cancer.

> > >

> > > 20th april 1981

> > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > place: calcutta

> > >

> > > Observations and doubts:

> > >

> > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are

spoilt

> > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

> quality)

> > >

> > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a

cause

> for

> > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is

> lagna

> > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> conjunction

> > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > >

> > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

seventh

> > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > >

> > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > >

> > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

bindus

> so

> > > good.

> > >

> > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > >

> > >

> > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results for

> > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo D

> plays

> > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much delay.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

....but in your other message you also said, guru will check sani's

delay. so there is not so much delay.

 

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> , " ashsam73 "

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

>

> >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

> causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see the

> delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

>

> .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

aspecting

> LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I guess

> but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does Jupiter

> enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is loC

so

> saturn will cause delay.

>

>

> >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in

> your

> mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not happy

> or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons) "

>

> .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before going

> to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a

factor

> for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

> promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th lord

> in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

> which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> multiple marriage as i can see.

> > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD or

> LoE

> can give marriage.

>

> ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I am

> right or wrong.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its a)

> 6th

> lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

>

> ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities of

> this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as well

> with Mars in 12th. what else?

>

>

> > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with

> Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

> AGain

> as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of

the

> house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

> bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

>

> ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

>

>

> > Can you take it from here.

>

> so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am wrong

tell

> me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which if

> gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

> comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the delay, if

> I a right or not.

>

> --manoshi

>

>

> <> >

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > >

> > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

> analyse

> > > the

> > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

> > mother

> > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > >

> > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > place: calcutta

> > > >

> > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > >

> > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are

> spoilt

> > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

> > quality)

> > > >

> > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a

> cause

> > for

> > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is

> > lagna

> > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > conjunction

> > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > >

> > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

> seventh

> > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > >

> > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > >

> > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

> bindus

> > so

> > > > good.

> > > >

> > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results

for

> > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo

D

> > plays

> > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much

delay.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

 

Basics !!!!

 

Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u checking for

Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

 

Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over this.

 

For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR THEIR LORDS

BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

 

Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house aspects 2nd, 11th

and 7th.

 

Now how much delay.

 

You are not answering this question. How much delay.

 

In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much delay.

 

After that see how much delay Guru will check.

 

After that check which antra is running and see if that antra can

give the result.

 

You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

 

Ok, now try again.

 

Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

 

Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

 

U are on the right track.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa> wrote:

> , " ashsam73 "

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

>

> >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

> causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see the

> delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

>

> .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

aspecting

> LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I guess

> but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does Jupiter

> enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is loC

so

> saturn will cause delay.

>

>

> >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in

> your

> mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not happy

> or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons) "

>

> .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before going

> to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a factor

> for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

> promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th lord

> in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

> which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> multiple marriage as i can see.

> > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD or

> LoE

> can give marriage.

>

> ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I am

> right or wrong.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its a)

> 6th

> lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

>

> ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities of

> this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as well

> with Mars in 12th. what else?

>

>

> > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with

> Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

> AGain

> as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of the

> house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

> bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

>

> ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

>

>

> > Can you take it from here.

>

> so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am wrong tell

> me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which if

> gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

> comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the delay, if

> I a right or not.

>

> --manoshi

>

>

> <> >

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > >

> > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

> analyse

> > > the

> > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

> > mother

> > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > >

> > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > place: calcutta

> > > >

> > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > >

> > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are

> spoilt

> > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

> > quality)

> > > >

> > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a

> cause

> > for

> > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus is

> > lagna

> > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > conjunction

> > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > >

> > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

> seventh

> > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > >

> > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > >

> > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

> bindus

> > so

> > > > good.

> > > >

> > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results for

> > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo D

> > plays

> > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much

delay.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

Please refer to my earlier mail that I just posted.

 

Not so much is how much ? You need to quantify that. Only then u

can start to find suitable antras.

 

When there is delay period running and if the strongest significators

antra comes then still marriage will not take place.

 

Delay period due to planets and it can be Sa, Ve, Ju, SAV i.e. delay

due to any planets causing 0 etc must be over and then after that the

first strong antra or lod or loe can furnish the result.

 

So this is a very good example.

 

Try again you are very close.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> ...but in your other message you also said, guru will check sani's

> delay. so there is not so much delay.

>

>

> --Manoshi

>

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > , " ashsam73 "

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> >

> > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

> > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see

the

> > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> >

> > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

> aspecting

> > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I

guess

> > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does Jupiter

> > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is loC

> so

> > saturn will cause delay.

> >

> >

> > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in

> > your

> > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not

happy

> > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons) "

> >

> > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before

going

> > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a

> factor

> > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

> > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th

lord

> > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

> > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD

or

> > LoE

> > can give marriage.

> >

> > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I am

> > right or wrong.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its

a)

> > 6th

> > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> >

> > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities of

> > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as

well

> > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> >

> >

> > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with

> > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

> > AGain

> > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of

> the

> > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

> > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> >

> > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> >

> >

> > > Can you take it from here.

> >

> > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am wrong

> tell

> > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which if

> > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

> > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the delay,

if

> > I a right or not.

> >

> > --manoshi

> >

> >

> > <> >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

> > analyse

> > > > the

> > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

> > > mother

> > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > >

> > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > >

> > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > >

> > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are

> > spoilt

> > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

> > > quality)

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a

> > cause

> > > for

> > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus

is

> > > lagna

> > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > > conjunction

> > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

> > seventh

> > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > >

> > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > >

> > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

> > bindus

> > > so

> > > > > good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results

> for

> > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo

> D

> > > plays

> > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much

> delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

 

Please read.

 

" Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

 

Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

 

U are on the right track.

"

 

AS

 

:Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

 

Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO JU.

 

U are on the right track.

"

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

>

> Basics !!!!

>

> Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u checking for

> Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

>

> Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over this.

>

> For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR THEIR

LORDS

> BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

>

> Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house aspects 2nd,

11th

> and 7th.

>

> Now how much delay.

>

> You are not answering this question. How much delay.

>

> In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much delay.

>

> After that see how much delay Guru will check.

>

> After that check which antra is running and see if that antra can

> give the result.

>

> You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

>

> Ok, now try again.

>

> Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

>

> Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

>

> U are on the right track.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

> , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> <khallopapa> wrote:

> > , " ashsam73 "

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> >

> > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the delay

> > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to see

the

> > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> >

> > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

> aspecting

> > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I

guess

> > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does Jupiter

> > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is loC

> so

> > saturn will cause delay.

> >

> >

> > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have in

> > your

> > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not

happy

> > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on lessons) "

> >

> > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before

going

> > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a

factor

> > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

> > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th

lord

> > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

> > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator, LoD

or

> > LoE

> > can give marriage.

> >

> > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I am

> > right or wrong.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as its

a)

> > 6th

> > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> >

> > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities of

> > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as

well

> > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> >

> >

> > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its with

> > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

> > AGain

> > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness of

the

> > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is with 3

> > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> >

> > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> >

> >

> > > Can you take it from here.

> >

> > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am wrong

tell

> > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which if

> > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

> > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the delay,

if

> > I a right or not.

> >

> > --manoshi

> >

> >

> > <> >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

> > analyse

> > > > the

> > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently and

> > > mother

> > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > >

> > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > >

> > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > >

> > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics are

> > spoilt

> > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a venusian

> > > quality)

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good, a

> > cause

> > > for

> > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see venus

is

> > > lagna

> > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > > conjunction

> > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

> > seventh

> > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > >

> > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > >

> > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

> > bindus

> > > so

> > > > > good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the results

for

> > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see. Lo

D

> > > plays

> > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much

> delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, as there

are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the results in

the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the jupiter?

how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

>

> Please read.

>

> " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

>

> Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

>

> U are on the right track.

> "

>

> AS

>

> :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

>

> Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO JU.

>

> U are on the right track.

> "

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > Basics !!!!

> >

> > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u checking for

> > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> >

> > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over this.

> >

> > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR THEIR

> LORDS

> > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> >

> > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house aspects 2nd,

> 11th

> > and 7th.

> >

> > Now how much delay.

> >

> > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> >

> > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much delay.

> >

> > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> >

> > After that check which antra is running and see if that antra

can

> > give the result.

> >

> > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> >

> > Ok, now try again.

> >

> > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> >

> > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

> >

> > U are on the right track.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > >

> > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the

delay

> > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to

see

> the

> > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > >

> > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

> > aspecting

> > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay I

> guess

> > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does

Jupiter

> > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru is

loC

> > so

> > > saturn will cause delay.

> > >

> > >

> > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you have

in

> > > your

> > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its not

> happy

> > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on

lessons) "

> > >

> > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness before

> going

> > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as a

> factor

> > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th doesnt

> > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and 7th

> lord

> > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and venus

> > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator,

LoD

> or

> > > LoE

> > > can give marriage.

> > >

> > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if I

am

> > > right or wrong.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as

its

> a)

> > > 6th

> > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > >

> > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the qualities

of

> > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak as

> well

> > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > >

> > >

> > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its

with

> > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th lord.

> > > AGain

> > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the happiness

of

> the

> > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is

with 3

> > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > >

> > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Can you take it from here.

> > >

> > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am

wrong

> tell

> > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun which

if

> > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points dasa

> > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the

delay,

> if

> > > I a right or not.

> > >

> > > --manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > > <> >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you please

> > > analyse

> > > > > the

> > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack recently

and

> > > > mother

> > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics

are

> > > spoilt

> > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a

venusian

> > > > quality)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not good,

a

> > > cause

> > > > for

> > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see

venus

> is

> > > > lagna

> > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > > > conjunction

> > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high for

> > > seventh

> > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than 3

> > > bindus

> > > > so

> > > > > > good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the

results

> for

> > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to see.

Lo

> D

> > > > plays

> > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see much

> > delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd sector.

Me is the strongest significator.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, as there

> are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the results in

> the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the jupiter?

> how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

>

> --Manoshi

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > Please read.

> >

> > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> >

> > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

> >

> > U are on the right track.

> > "

> >

> > AS

> >

> > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> >

> > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO JU.

> >

> > U are on the right track.

> > "

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Basics !!!!

> > >

> > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u checking

for

> > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > >

> > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over this.

> > >

> > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR

THEIR

> > LORDS

> > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > >

> > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house aspects

2nd,

> > 11th

> > > and 7th.

> > >

> > > Now how much delay.

> > >

> > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > >

> > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much

delay.

> > >

> > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > >

> > > After that check which antra is running and see if that antra

> can

> > > give the result.

> > >

> > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > >

> > > Ok, now try again.

> > >

> > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > >

> > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

> > >

> > > U are on the right track.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > >

> > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find the

> delay

> > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget to

> see

> > the

> > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > >

> > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is not

> > > aspecting

> > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause delay

I

> > guess

> > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does

> Jupiter

> > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru

is

> loC

> > > so

> > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you

have

> in

> > > > your

> > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its

not

> > happy

> > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on

> lessons) "

> > > >

> > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness

before

> > going

> > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered as

a

> > factor

> > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th

doesnt

> > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and

7th

> > lord

> > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and

venus

> > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good. No

> > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong significator,

> LoD

> > or

> > > > LoE

> > > > can give marriage.

> > > >

> > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more if

I

> am

> > > > right or wrong.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage as

> its

> > a)

> > > > 6th

> > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > >

> > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

qualities

> of

> > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the karak

as

> > well

> > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and its

> with

> > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th

lord.

> > > > AGain

> > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

happiness

> of

> > the

> > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is

> with 3

> > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > >

> > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > >

> > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am

> wrong

> > tell

> > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun

which

> if

> > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points

dasa

> > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the

> delay,

> > if

> > > > I a right or not.

> > > >

> > > > --manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you

please

> > > > analyse

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

recently

> and

> > > > > mother

> > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus characteristics

> are

> > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a

> venusian

> > > > > quality)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not

good,

> a

> > > > cause

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see

> venus

> > is

> > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord in

> > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high

for

> > > > seventh

> > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference than

3

> > > > bindus

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the

> results

> > for

> > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to

see.

> Lo

> > D

> > > > > plays

> > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see

much

> > > delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it has

the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to bother

you.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd sector.

> Me is the strongest significator.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, as

there

> > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the results

in

> > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

jupiter?

> > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Please read.

> > >

> > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > >

> > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO SA.

> > >

> > > U are on the right track.

> > > "

> > >

> > > AS

> > >

> > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > >

> > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO JU.

> > >

> > > U are on the right track.

> > > "

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >

> > > > Basics !!!!

> > > >

> > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u checking

> for

> > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > >

> > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over this.

> > > >

> > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR

> THEIR

> > > LORDS

> > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > >

> > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house aspects

> 2nd,

> > > 11th

> > > > and 7th.

> > > >

> > > > Now how much delay.

> > > >

> > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > >

> > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much

> delay.

> > > >

> > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > >

> > > > After that check which antra is running and see if that

antra

> > can

> > > > give the result.

> > > >

> > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > >

> > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > >

> > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > >

> > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

SA.

> > > >

> > > > U are on the right track.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > >

> > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find

the

> > delay

> > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget

to

> > see

> > > the

> > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > >

> > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is

not

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause

delay

> I

> > > guess

> > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does

> > Jupiter

> > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn. Guru

> is

> > loC

> > > > so

> > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you

> have

> > in

> > > > > your

> > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or its

> not

> > > happy

> > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on

> > lessons) "

> > > > >

> > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness

> before

> > > going

> > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered

as

> a

> > > factor

> > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th

> doesnt

> > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord and

> 7th

> > > lord

> > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars and

> venus

> > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered good.

No

> > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

significator,

> > LoD

> > > or

> > > > > LoE

> > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more

if

> I

> > am

> > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for marriage

as

> > its

> > > a)

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > >

> > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> qualities

> > of

> > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the

karak

> as

> > > well

> > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and

its

> > with

> > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th

> lord.

> > > > > AGain

> > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> happiness

> > of

> > > the

> > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus is

> > with 3

> > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > >

> > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > >

> > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I am

> > wrong

> > > tell

> > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun

> which

> > if

> > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high points

> dasa

> > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain the

> > delay,

> > > if

> > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > >

> > > > > --manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you

> please

> > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

> recently

> > and

> > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

characteristics

> > are

> > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a

> > venusian

> > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not

> good,

> > a

> > > > > cause

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we see

> > venus

> > > is

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th lord

in

> > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are high

> for

> > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference

than

> 3

> > > > > bindus

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the

> > results

> > > for

> > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to

> see.

> > Lo

> > > D

> > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot see

> much

> > > > delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

 

Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power. So if

u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has become

strong.

 

Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they are

aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10 bindus.

 

Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

 

Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give result.

 

No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions are

very interesting.

 

Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit zoned

out. lol...

 

Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see that Sa

and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont have

the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that was

weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

 

Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it has

> the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to bother

> you.

>

> --Manoshi

>

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd sector.

> > Me is the strongest significator.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, as

> there

> > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

results

> in

> > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> jupiter?

> > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >

> > > > Please read.

> > > >

> > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > >

> > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

SA.

> > > >

> > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > "

> > > >

> > > > AS

> > > >

> > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > >

> > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

JU.

> > > >

> > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > "

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

checking

> > for

> > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over

this.

> > > > >

> > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C OR

> > THEIR

> > > > LORDS

> > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

aspects

> > 2nd,

> > > > 11th

> > > > > and 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how much

> > delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if that

> antra

> > > can

> > > > > give the result.

> > > > >

> > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

> SA.

> > > > >

> > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also find

> the

> > > delay

> > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u forget

> to

> > > see

> > > > the

> > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn is

> not

> > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause

> delay

> > I

> > > > guess

> > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. Does

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn.

Guru

> > is

> > > loC

> > > > > so

> > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS you

> > have

> > > in

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or

its

> > not

> > > > happy

> > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on

> > > lessons) "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness

> > before

> > > > going

> > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also considered

> as

> > a

> > > > factor

> > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in 12th

> > doesnt

> > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord

and

> > 7th

> > > > lord

> > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars

and

> > venus

> > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered

good.

> No

> > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> significator,

> > > LoD

> > > > or

> > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify more

> if

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

marriage

> as

> > > its

> > > > a)

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > qualities

> > > of

> > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the

> karak

> > as

> > > > well

> > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E and

> its

> > > with

> > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with 6th

> > lord.

> > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > happiness

> > > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here Venus

is

> > > with 3

> > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I

am

> > > wrong

> > > > tell

> > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is Sun

> > which

> > > if

> > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

points

> > dasa

> > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain

the

> > > delay,

> > > > if

> > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld you

> > please

> > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

> > recently

> > > and

> > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> characteristics

> > > are

> > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing a

> > > venusian

> > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again not

> > good,

> > > a

> > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we

see

> > > venus

> > > > is

> > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th

lord

> in

> > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in 12th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are

high

> > for

> > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no difference

> than

> > 3

> > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out the

> > > results

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else to

> > see.

> > > Lo

> > > > D

> > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot

see

> > much

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an affair ?

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

>

> Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power. So

if

> u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has become

> strong.

>

> Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they are

> aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

bindus.

>

> Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

>

> Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give result.

>

> No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions are

> very interesting.

>

> Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

zoned

> out. lol...

>

> Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see that

Sa

> and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

have

> the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

was

> weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

>

> Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it

has

> > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

bother

> > you.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd sector.

> > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, as

> > there

> > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> results

> > in

> > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > jupiter?

> > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please read.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

> SA.

> > > > >

> > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > "

> > > > >

> > > > > AS

> > > > >

> > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE TO

> JU.

> > > > >

> > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > "

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> checking

> > > for

> > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over

> this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C

OR

> > > THEIR

> > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> aspects

> > > 2nd,

> > > > > 11th

> > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

much

> > > delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if that

> > antra

> > > > can

> > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

TO

> > SA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

find

> > the

> > > > delay

> > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

forget

> > to

> > > > see

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn

is

> > not

> > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will cause

> > delay

> > > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

Does

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with saturn.

> Guru

> > > is

> > > > loC

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS

you

> > > have

> > > > in

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy or

> its

> > > not

> > > > > happy

> > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based on

> > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital happiness

> > > before

> > > > > going

> > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

considered

> > as

> > > a

> > > > > factor

> > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

12th

> > > doesnt

> > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st lord

> and

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are mars

> and

> > > venus

> > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered

> good.

> > No

> > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > significator,

> > > > LoD

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

more

> > if

> > > I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> marriage

> > as

> > > > its

> > > > > a)

> > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > qualities

> > > > of

> > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its the

> > karak

> > > as

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E

and

> > its

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with

6th

> > > lord.

> > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > happiness

> > > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

Venus

> is

> > > > with 3

> > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if I

> am

> > > > wrong

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is

Sun

> > > which

> > > > if

> > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> points

> > > dasa

> > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please explain

> the

> > > > delay,

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

you

> > > please

> > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

> > > recently

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > characteristics

> > > > are

> > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering singing

a

> > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

not

> > > good,

> > > > a

> > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as we

> see

> > > > venus

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th

> lord

> > in

> > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

12th.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are

> high

> > > for

> > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

difference

> > than

> > > 3

> > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give results.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

the

> > > > results

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what else

to

> > > see.

> > > > Lo

> > > > > D

> > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I cannot

> see

> > > much

> > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought she

would get married to. It was a long term affair.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

affair ?

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power. So

> if

> > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

become

> > strong.

> >

> > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they are

> > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> bindus.

> >

> > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

> >

> > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

result.

> >

> > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

are

> > very interesting.

> >

> > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> zoned

> > out. lol...

> >

> > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see that

> Sa

> > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> have

> > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

> was

> > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> >

> > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it

> has

> > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> bother

> > > you.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

sector.

> > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

as

> > > there

> > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > results

> > > in

> > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > jupiter?

> > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

TO

> > SA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

TO

> > JU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > checking

> > > > for

> > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over

> > this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C

> OR

> > > > THEIR

> > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > aspects

> > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

> much

> > > > delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

that

> > > antra

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

> find

> > > the

> > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> forget

> > > to

> > > > > see

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn

> is

> > > not

> > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

cause

> > > delay

> > > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

> Does

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

saturn.

> > Guru

> > > > is

> > > > > loC

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS

> you

> > > > have

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

or

> > its

> > > > not

> > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

on

> > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

happiness

> > > > before

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> considered

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

> 12th

> > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

lord

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

mars

> > and

> > > > venus

> > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered

> > good.

> > > No

> > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > significator,

> > > > > LoD

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

> more

> > > if

> > > > I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > marriage

> > > as

> > > > > its

> > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > > qualities

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

the

> > > karak

> > > > as

> > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E

> and

> > > its

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > > happiness

> > > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> Venus

> > is

> > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if

I

> > am

> > > > > wrong

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is

> Sun

> > > > which

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> > points

> > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

explain

> > the

> > > > > delay,

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

> you

> > > > please

> > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

> > > > recently

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > characteristics

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

singing

> a

> > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

> not

> > > > good,

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

we

> > see

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th

> > lord

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are

> > high

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> difference

> > > than

> > > > 3

> > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

> the

> > > > > results

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

else

> to

> > > > see.

> > > > > Lo

> > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

cannot

> > see

> > > > much

> > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

Thanks for giving such vivid lessons to us on the list.

I also would like to learn how you were able to know of the break in

the affair/engagement.

 

For our learning, what house do we take as B for timing the

engagement? Then maybe 12th from B can cause the break in the

engagement? Please explain.

 

Also what would be the case if saturn was strongest significator for

marriage, and was in the 5th (so aspecting house a,b,c)(I am

thinking he could not give marriage but the samdharmi would act for

him)

 

Then what if the same saturn was also Lord of house E? Then despite

that saturn should cause marriage right??

 

 

Please tell me if I am getting the rules right.

 

Thanks,

Ben

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

affair ?

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power. So

> if

> > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

become

> > strong.

> >

> > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they are

> > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> bindus.

> >

> > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

> >

> > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

result.

> >

> > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

are

> > very interesting.

> >

> > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> zoned

> > out. lol...

> >

> > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see that

> Sa

> > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> have

> > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

> was

> > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> >

> > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it

> has

> > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> bother

> > > you.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

sector.

> > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

as

> > > there

> > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > results

> > > in

> > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > jupiter?

> > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

TO

> > SA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

TO

> > JU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > checking

> > > > for

> > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over

> > this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B, C

> OR

> > > > THEIR

> > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > aspects

> > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

> much

> > > > delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

that

> > > antra

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

> find

> > > the

> > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> forget

> > > to

> > > > > see

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn

> is

> > > not

> > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

cause

> > > delay

> > > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

> Does

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

saturn.

> > Guru

> > > > is

> > > > > loC

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the WS

> you

> > > > have

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

or

> > its

> > > > not

> > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

on

> > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

happiness

> > > > before

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> considered

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

> 12th

> > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

lord

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

mars

> > and

> > > > venus

> > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered

> > good.

> > > No

> > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > significator,

> > > > > LoD

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

> more

> > > if

> > > > I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > marriage

> > > as

> > > > > its

> > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > > qualities

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

the

> > > karak

> > > > as

> > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E

> and

> > > its

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > > happiness

> > > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> Venus

> > is

> > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if

I

> > am

> > > > > wrong

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is

> Sun

> > > > which

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> > points

> > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

explain

> > the

> > > > > delay,

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

> you

> > > > please

> > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack

> > > > recently

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > characteristics

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

singing

> a

> > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

> not

> > > > good,

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

we

> > see

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th

> > lord

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are

> > high

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> difference

> > > than

> > > > 3

> > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

> the

> > > > > results

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

else

> to

> > > > see.

> > > > > Lo

> > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

cannot

> > see

> > > > much

> > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ben,

It was not me but Krushnaji who saw this and asked me the question

for which I did not have the answer as Manoshi had not given any past

events.

In any case, I am not too sure, I do have a theory but would wait

till Krushnaji only tells us how he saw the break.

 

In that way we all can learn.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " b_vellani "

<b_vellani> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thanks for giving such vivid lessons to us on the list.

> I also would like to learn how you were able to know of the break

in

> the affair/engagement.

>

> For our learning, what house do we take as B for timing the

> engagement? Then maybe 12th from B can cause the break in the

> engagement? Please explain.

>

> Also what would be the case if saturn was strongest significator

for

> marriage, and was in the 5th (so aspecting house a,b,c)(I am

> thinking he could not give marriage but the samdharmi would act for

> him)

>

> Then what if the same saturn was also Lord of house E? Then despite

> that saturn should cause marriage right??

>

>

> Please tell me if I am getting the rules right.

>

> Thanks,

> Ben

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> affair ?

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

So

> > if

> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> become

> > > strong.

> > >

> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

are

> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> > bindus.

> > >

> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

> > >

> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> result.

> > >

> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

> are

> > > very interesting.

> > >

> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> > zoned

> > > out. lol...

> > >

> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

that

> > Sa

> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> > have

> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

> > was

> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > >

> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

it

> > has

> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> > bother

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> sector.

> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

> as

> > > > there

> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > > results

> > > > in

> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > > jupiter?

> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > JU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > > checking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

over

> > > this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B,

C

> > OR

> > > > > THEIR

> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > > aspects

> > > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

> > much

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> that

> > > > antra

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > SA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

> > find

> > > > the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> > forget

> > > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

saturn

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> cause

> > > > delay

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

> > Does

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> saturn.

> > > Guru

> > > > > is

> > > > > > loC

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

WS

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

> or

> > > its

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

> on

> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> happiness

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

> > 12th

> > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

> lord

> > > and

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> mars

> > > and

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

considered

> > > good.

> > > > No

> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > > significator,

> > > > > > LoD

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

> > more

> > > > if

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > > marriage

> > > > as

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > > > qualities

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

> the

> > > > karak

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House

E

> > and

> > > > its

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

with

> > 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

jupiter...if

> I

> > > am

> > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

is

> > Sun

> > > > > which

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> > > points

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> explain

> > > the

> > > > > > delay,

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

> > you

> > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

attack

> > > > > recently

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > characteristics

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> singing

> > a

> > > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

> > not

> > > > > good,

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

7th

> > > lord

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> > 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

are

> > > high

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > difference

> > > > than

> > > > > 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> else

> > to

> > > > > see.

> > > > > > Lo

> > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> cannot

> > > see

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

Pranam.

 

You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in

engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if this was

early.

 

Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered that you

could see this so clearly.

 

Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am sure other

list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

 

I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick

reference.

 

20th April 1980

7:35 AM

Calcutta,

22N32

88E22

 

As 16 Ta 15

Su 7 Ar 13

Mo 15 Li 27

Ma 3 Ar 23

Me 28 Pi 51

JuR 9 Vi 48

Ve 10 Ar 30

SaR 11 Vi 58

Ra 14 Cn 2

Ke 14 Cp 2

 

 

Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

 

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa> wrote:

> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought she

> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

>

> --Manoshi

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> affair ?

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

So

> > if

> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> become

> > > strong.

> > >

> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

are

> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> > bindus.

> > >

> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

> > >

> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> result.

> > >

> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

> are

> > > very interesting.

> > >

> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> > zoned

> > > out. lol...

> > >

> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

that

> > Sa

> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> > have

> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

> > was

> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > >

> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

it

> > has

> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> > bother

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> sector.

> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

> as

> > > > there

> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > > results

> > > > in

> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > > jupiter?

> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > JU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > > checking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

over

> > > this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B,

C

> > OR

> > > > > THEIR

> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > > aspects

> > > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

> > much

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> that

> > > > antra

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > SA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

> > find

> > > > the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> > forget

> > > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

saturn

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> cause

> > > > delay

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

> > Does

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> saturn.

> > > Guru

> > > > > is

> > > > > > loC

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

WS

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

> or

> > > its

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

> on

> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> happiness

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

> > 12th

> > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

> lord

> > > and

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> mars

> > > and

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

considered

> > > good.

> > > > No

> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > > significator,

> > > > > > LoD

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

> > more

> > > > if

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > > marriage

> > > > as

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > > > qualities

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

> the

> > > > karak

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House

E

> > and

> > > > its

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

with

> > 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

jupiter...if

> I

> > > am

> > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

is

> > Sun

> > > > > which

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> > > points

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> explain

> > > the

> > > > > > delay,

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

> > you

> > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

attack

> > > > > recently

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > characteristics

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> singing

> > a

> > > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

> > not

> > > > > good,

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

7th

> > > lord

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> > 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

are

> > > high

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > difference

> > > > than

> > > > > 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> else

> > to

> > > > > see.

> > > > > > Lo

> > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> cannot

> > > see

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ben,

Yes, you are getting the hang of it.

 

Say in this case, Sa is having 20 points in 12th, 13 in 5th and 21 in

7th. So Sa is strong. However its aspecting House A,B and C. Here

Sa himself is giving 15 points to himself as Sa will aspect 7th, 11th

and 2nd with a dristi of +5. This you can check from the WS.

 

So first you compute delay period. Sa in 5th always delays event.

Now if Sa were LoD or LoE and if delay period got over and Sa's antra

started then Sa will give results in 1st sector itself.

 

The law is that if the DELAY CAUSING PLANET IS THE LORD OF HOUSE D OR

E THEN U WILL GET THE RESULT IN 1ST SECTOR ITSELF.

 

So Sa in 5th becomes the delay causing planet.

 

Now say when the delay period got over say at the age or 27 years and

the antra running at that time was say 3rd sector and half of the 3rd

sector was finished. So in that case the remaining part will not

give the result.

 

In such a case you should check the next antra.

 

This will come with practice and solving more and more charts. This

I have also noticed in a many charts that I have solved.

 

I hope this helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " b_vellani "

<b_vellani> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thanks for giving such vivid lessons to us on the list.

> I also would like to learn how you were able to know of the break

in

> the affair/engagement.

>

> For our learning, what house do we take as B for timing the

> engagement? Then maybe 12th from B can cause the break in the

> engagement? Please explain.

>

> Also what would be the case if saturn was strongest significator

for

> marriage, and was in the 5th (so aspecting house a,b,c)(I am

> thinking he could not give marriage but the samdharmi would act for

> him)

>

> Then what if the same saturn was also Lord of house E? Then despite

> that saturn should cause marriage right??

>

>

> Please tell me if I am getting the rules right.

>

> Thanks,

> Ben

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> affair ?

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

So

> > if

> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> become

> > > strong.

> > >

> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

are

> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> > bindus.

> > >

> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

> > >

> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> result.

> > >

> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

> are

> > > very interesting.

> > >

> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> > zoned

> > > out. lol...

> > >

> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

that

> > Sa

> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> > have

> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

> > was

> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > >

> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

it

> > has

> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> > bother

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> sector.

> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

> as

> > > > there

> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > > results

> > > > in

> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > > jupiter?

> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

> TO

> > > JU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > > checking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

over

> > > this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B,

C

> > OR

> > > > > THEIR

> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > > aspects

> > > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

> > much

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> that

> > > > antra

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > SA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

> > find

> > > > the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> > forget

> > > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

saturn

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> cause

> > > > delay

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

> > Does

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> saturn.

> > > Guru

> > > > > is

> > > > > > loC

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

WS

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

> or

> > > its

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

> on

> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> happiness

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

> > 12th

> > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

> lord

> > > and

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> mars

> > > and

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

considered

> > > good.

> > > > No

> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > > significator,

> > > > > > LoD

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

> > more

> > > > if

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > > marriage

> > > > as

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

> > > > > qualities

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

> the

> > > > karak

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House

E

> > and

> > > > its

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

with

> > 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

jupiter...if

> I

> > > am

> > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

is

> > Sun

> > > > > which

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

> > > points

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> explain

> > > the

> > > > > > delay,

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

> > you

> > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

attack

> > > > > recently

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > characteristics

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> singing

> > a

> > > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

> > not

> > > > > good,

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

7th

> > > lord

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> > 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

are

> > > high

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > difference

> > > > than

> > > > > 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> else

> > to

> > > > > see.

> > > > > > Lo

> > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> cannot

> > > see

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Group -

 

There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as reposted by Ash. Sandy

caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering why the data

didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that the year was

posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of you who are

also wondering why nothing matches up.

 

Thanks -

Donna

 

 

 

 

-

" ashsam73 " <ashsam73

 

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:49 AM

Re: Another chart-- analysis of marriage

 

 

> Dear Krushnaji,

> Pranam.

>

> You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in

> engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if this was

> early.

>

> Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered that you

> could see this so clearly.

>

> Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am sure other

> list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

>

> I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick

> reference.

>

> 20th April 1980

> 7:35 AM

> Calcutta,

> 22N32

> 88E22

>

> As 16 Ta 15

> Su 7 Ar 13

> Mo 15 Li 27

> Ma 3 Ar 23

> Me 28 Pi 51

> JuR 9 Vi 48

> Ve 10 Ar 30

> SaR 11 Vi 58

> Ra 14 Cn 2

> Ke 14 Cp 2

>

>

> Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

>

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

> , " Manoshi Chatterjee "

> <khallopapa> wrote:

>> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought she

>> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

>>

>> --Manoshi

>>

>>

>> , " ashsam73 "

>> <ashsam73> wrote:

>> > Dear Manoshi,

>> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

>> affair ?

>> > Cheers !!!

>> > Ash

>> >

>> > , " ashsam73 "

>> > <ashsam73> wrote:

>> > > Dear Manoshi,

>> > >

>> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

> So

>> > if

>> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

>> become

>> > > strong.

>> > >

>> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

> are

>> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

>> > bindus.

>> > >

>> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

>> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.

>> > >

>> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

>> result.

>> > >

>> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

>> are

>> > > very interesting.

>> > >

>> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

>> > zoned

>> > > out. lol...

>> > >

>> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

> that

>> > Sa

>> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

>> > have

>> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that

>> > was

>> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

>> > >

>> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

>> > >

>> > > Cheers !!!

>> > > Ash

>> > >

>> > > , " Manoshi

>> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

>> > > > Dear Ash,

>> > > >

>> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

> it

>> > has

>> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

>> > bother

>> > > > you.

>> > > >

>> > > > --Manoshi

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > , " ashsam73 "

>> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

>> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

>> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

>> sector.

>> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

>> > > > > Cheers !!!

>> > > > > Ash

>> > > > >

>> > > > > , " Manoshi

>> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

>> > > > > > Dear Ash,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

>> as

>> > > > there

>> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

>> > > results

>> > > > in

>> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

>> > > > jupiter?

>> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > --Manoshi

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > --- In

>> , " ashsam73 "

>> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

>> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Please read.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

>> TO

>> > > SA.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

>> > > > > > > "

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > AS

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE

>> TO

>> > > JU.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

>> > > > > > > "

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > --- In

>> > , " ashsam73 "

>> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

>> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

>> > > checking

>> > > > > for

>> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

> over

>> > > this.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B,

> C

>> > OR

>> > > > > THEIR

>> > > > > > > LORDS

>> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

>> > > aspects

>> > > > > 2nd,

>> > > > > > > 11th

>> > > > > > > > and 7th.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how

>> > much

>> > > > > delay.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

>> that

>> > > > antra

>> > > > > > can

>> > > > > > > > give the result.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

>> MUCH ?

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

>> DUE

>> > TO

>> > > > SA.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

>> > > > > > > > Ash

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > --- In

>> > , " Manoshi

>> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

>> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

>> > > > > > > > > --- In

>> > > > , " ashsam73 "

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and also

>> > find

>> > > > the

>> > > > > > delay

>> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

>> > forget

>> > > > to

>> > > > > > see

>> > > > > > > the

>> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

> saturn

>> > is

>> > > > not

>> > > > > > > > aspecting

>> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

>> cause

>> > > > delay

>> > > > > I

>> > > > > > > guess

>> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C.

>> > Does

>> > > > > > Jupiter

>> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

>> saturn.

>> > > Guru

>> > > > > is

>> > > > > > loC

>> > > > > > > > so

>> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

> WS

>> > you

>> > > > > have

>> > > > > > in

>> > > > > > > > > your

>> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

>> or

>> > > its

>> > > > > not

>> > > > > > > happy

>> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based

>> on

>> > > > > > lessons) "

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

>> happiness

>> > > > > before

>> > > > > > > going

>> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

>> > considered

>> > > > as

>> > > > > a

>> > > > > > > factor

>> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in

>> > 12th

>> > > > > doesnt

>> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

>> lord

>> > > and

>> > > > > 7th

>> > > > > > > lord

>> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

>> mars

>> > > and

>> > > > > venus

>> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

>> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> considered

>> > > good.

>> > > > No

>> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

>> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

>> > > > significator,

>> > > > > > LoD

>> > > > > > > or

>> > > > > > > > > LoE

>> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify

>> > more

>> > > > if

>> > > > > I

>> > > > > > am

>> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

>> > > marriage

>> > > > as

>> > > > > > its

>> > > > > > > a)

>> > > > > > > > > 6th

>> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the

>> > > > > qualities

>> > > > > > of

>> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

>> the

>> > > > karak

>> > > > > as

>> > > > > > > well

>> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House

> E

>> > and

>> > > > its

>> > > > > > with

>> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

> with

>> > 6th

>> > > > > lord.

>> > > > > > > > > AGain

>> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces the

>> > > > > happiness

>> > > > > > of

>> > > > > > > the

>> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

>> > Venus

>> > > is

>> > > > > > with 3

>> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> jupiter...if

>> I

>> > > am

>> > > > > > wrong

>> > > > > > > tell

>> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

> is

>> > Sun

>> > > > > which

>> > > > > > if

>> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high

>> > > points

>> > > > > dasa

>> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

>> explain

>> > > the

>> > > > > > delay,

>> > > > > > > if

>> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > <> >

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

>> > > > > , " Manoshi

>> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

>> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld

>> > you

>> > > > > please

>> > > > > > > > > analyse

>> > > > > > > > > > > the

>> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

> attack

>> > > > > recently

>> > > > > > and

>> > > > > > > > > > mother

>> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

>> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

>> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

>> > > > characteristics

>> > > > > > are

>> > > > > > > > > spoilt

>> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

>> singing

>> > a

>> > > > > > venusian

>> > > > > > > > > > quality)

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again

>> > not

>> > > > > good,

>> > > > > > a

>> > > > > > > > > cause

>> > > > > > > > > > for

>> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

>> we

>> > > see

>> > > > > > venus

>> > > > > > > is

>> > > > > > > > > > lagna

>> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

> 7th

>> > > lord

>> > > > in

>> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

>> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

>> > 12th.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

> are

>> > > high

>> > > > > for

>> > > > > > > > > seventh

>> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

>> > difference

>> > > > than

>> > > > > 3

>> > > > > > > > > bindus

>> > > > > > > > > > so

>> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

>> results.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out

>> > the

>> > > > > > results

>> > > > > > > for

>> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

>> else

>> > to

>> > > > > see.

>> > > > > > Lo

>> > > > > > > D

>> > > > > > > > > > plays

>> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

>> cannot

>> > > see

>> > > > > much

>> > > > > > > > delay.

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

>> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > -