Another chart-- analysis of marriage--thanx

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Thanx Ash for the wonderful discussion, it was a real learning

experience. still a few questions remained unanswered. why LoD and

LoE did not gove the results? is mars and venus together bad in this

case? and lastly how did you come to know about the broken affair???

amazing!!! I am very much impressed and must congratulate you and

Krushna ji for developing, understanding and teaching ths wonderful

system.

 

regards

Manoshi

 

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought

she

> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

>

> --Manoshi

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> affair ?

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

So

> > if

> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> become

> > > strong.

> > >

> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

are

> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> > bindus.

> > >

> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary

upchaya.

> > >

> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> result.

> > >

> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

> are

> > > very interesting.

> > >

> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> > zoned

> > > out. lol...

> > >

> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

that

> > Sa

> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont

> > have

> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house

that

> > was

> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > >

> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

it

> > has

> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> > bother

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> sector.

> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years,

> as

> > > > there

> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > > results

> > > > in

> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the

> > > > jupiter?

> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> TO

> > > SA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> TO

> > > JU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > > checking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

over

> > > this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A, B,

C

> > OR

> > > > > THEIR

> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > > aspects

> > > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that

how

> > much

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> that

> > > > antra

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > SA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and

also

> > find

> > > > the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> > forget

> > > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

saturn

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> cause

> > > > delay

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house

C.

> > Does

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> saturn.

> > > Guru

> > > > > is

> > > > > > loC

> > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

WS

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be happy

> or

> > > its

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages

(based

> on

> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> happiness

> > > > > before

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together

in

> > 12th

> > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

> lord

> > > and

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> mars

> > > and

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

considered

> > > good.

> > > > No

> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > > significator,

> > > > > > LoD

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

clarify

> > more

> > > > if

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > > marriage

> > > > as

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod

the

> > > > > qualities

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

> the

> > > > karak

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House

E

> > and

> > > > its

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

with

> > 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces

the

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

jupiter...if

> I

> > > am

> > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

is

> > Sun

> > > > > which

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when

high

> > > points

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> explain

> > > the

> > > > > > delay,

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart.

COuld

> > you

> > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

attack

> > > > > recently

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > characteristics

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> singing

> > a

> > > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house (

again

> > not

> > > > > good,

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as

> we

> > > see

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

7th

> > > lord

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in

> > 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

are

> > > high

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > difference

> > > > than

> > > > > 3

> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find

out

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> else

> > to

> > > > > see.

> > > > > > Lo

> > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> cannot

> > > see

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji, Manoshi and List Members,

 

Krushnaji had come online for a few mins to check his email. So I took that opportunity to have a short chat whith him and printed the degree of planets and the WS.

 

I asked him to read my email and he confirmed my analysis. However it was Krushnaji who asked me the question and I said that I did not know the answer and that I would ask on the list.

 

Now it beats the hell out of me how he saw that ?

 

Unfortunately I did not have enough time to chat with him to ask him that as he had to leave for dinner.

 

I cant and dont want to take any credit for anything.

 

I just wish Krushnaji had more time to spend with us on the list. I myself am baffled and this is not the first time.

 

I hope Krushnaji can tell us how he saw that an engagement or an affair was there and how it broke up.

 

Manoshi, its not me who has developed this sytem. Its thanks to Krushnaji who has brought this forward and simplified this and gave us lessons in an organized manner.

 

Even his posts on the list archives are real gems if u really study them closely.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

Thanx Ash for the wonderful discussion, it was a real learning experience. still a few questions remained unanswered. why LoD and LoE did not gove the results? is mars and venus together bad in this case? and lastly how did you come to know about the broken affair??? amazing!!! I am very much impressed and must congratulate you and Krushna ji for developing, understanding and teaching ths wonderful system.regardsManoshi , "Manoshi Chatterjee" wrote:> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought she > would get married to. It was a long term affair.> > --Manoshi> > > , "ashsam73" > wrote:> > Dear Manoshi,> > By any

chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an > affair ?> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power. So > > if > > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has > become > > > strong.> > > > > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they are > > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10 > > bindus.> > > > > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for > > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary upchaya.> > > > > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> result.> > > > > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions > are > > > very interesting. > > > > > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit > > zoned > > > out. lol...> > > > > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see that > > Sa > > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I dont > > have > > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house that > > was > > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.> > > > > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > , "Manoshi > > >

Chatterjee" wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because it > > has > > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to > > bother > > > > you.> > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd > sector.> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > , "Manoshi > >

> > > Chatterjee" wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5 years, > as > > > > there > > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the > > > results > > > > in > > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of the > > > > jupiter? > > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE > TO > > > SA.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > U are on the right track.> > > > > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW MUCH ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION DUE > TO > > > JU.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > U are on the

right track.> > > > > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basics !!!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u > > > checking > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been over > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE

A, B, C > > OR > > > > > THEIR > > > > > > > LORDS > > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house > > > aspects > > > > > 2nd, > > > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > and 7th.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now how much delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that how > > much > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if > that > > > > antra > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > give the result.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to find the "Delay" in terms of YEARS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW > MUCH ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION > DUE > > TO > > > > SA.> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manoshi > > > > > > > Chatterjee" > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here

under your guidance:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1)" Step one is to find delay in marriage and also > > find > > > > the > > > > > > delay> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u > > forget > > > > to > > > > > > see > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and saturn > > is > > > > not > > > > > > > > aspecting> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will > cause > > > > delay > >

> > > I > > > > > > > guess> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house C. > > Does > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with > saturn. > > > Guru > > > > > is > > > > > > loC > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >2)" I am assuming that before you even touch the WS > > you > > > > > have > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be

happy > or > > > its > > > > > not > > > > > > > happy> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages (based > on > > > > > > lessons) "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital > happiness > > > > > before > > > > > > > going> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also > > considered > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > factor> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together in > > 12th > > > > > doesnt> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was

1st > lord > > > and > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are > mars > > > and > > > > > venus> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be considered > > > good. > > > > No> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong > > > > significator, > > > > > > LoD > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > LoE> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please clarify > > more > > > > if > > > > > I > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for > > > marriage > > > > as > > > > > > its > > > > > > > a)> > > > > > > > > 6th> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod the > > > > > qualities > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its > the > > > > karak > > > > > as > > > > > > > well> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)" Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in House E > > and > > > > its > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are with > > 6th > > > > > lord.> > > > > > > > > AGain> > > > > > > > > as per lessons

6th lord in House D or E reduces the > > > > > happiness > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here > > Venus > > > is > > > > > > with 3> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or jupiter...if > I > > > am > > > > > > wrong > > >

> > > > tell> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD is > > Sun > > > > > which > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when high > > > points > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please > explain > > > the > > > > > > delay, > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee" > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. COuld > > you > > > > > please > > > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an attack > > > > > recently > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > mother > > >

> > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus > > > > characteristics > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > spoilt > > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering > singing > > a > > > > >

> venusian > > > > > > > > > > quality)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house ( again > > not > > > > > good, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but as > we > > > see > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and 7th > > > lord > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > conjunction > > > >

> > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is in > > 12th.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points are > > > high > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no > > difference > > > > than > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > bindus > > > > >

> > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find out > > the > > > > > > results > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what > else > > to > > > > > see. > > > > > > Lo > > > > > > > D > > > > > > > > > > plays > > > > > > > > > > >

> important factor, I know , what else? I > cannot > > > see > > > > > much > > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi,

LoD and LoE did not give the results as she was in her delay period.

I keep saying and try to grasp this. If delay period is running and

strong significators antra that comes still marriage will not take

place. It may give an opportunity or even bring strong feelings but

marriage will not take place.

 

Its only after the delay period then when strong antra comes in case

of happy marriage then such antra will furnish the result in the

proper sector and under proper transit of sun.

 

U aint kiddin girl... each time I solve a chart I get impressed

myself all thanks to Krushnaji lol...

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa> wrote:

> Thanx Ash for the wonderful discussion, it was a real learning

> experience. still a few questions remained unanswered. why LoD

and

> LoE did not gove the results? is mars and venus together bad in

this

> case? and lastly how did you come to know about the broken

affair???

> amazing!!! I am very much impressed and must congratulate you and

> Krushna ji for developing, understanding and teaching ths wonderful

> system.

>

> regards

> Manoshi

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought

> she

> > would get married to. It was a long term affair.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> > affair ?

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

> So

> > > if

> > > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> > become

> > > > strong.

> > > >

> > > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

> are

> > > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> > > bindus.

> > > >

> > > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> > > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary

> upchaya.

> > > >

> > > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> > result.

> > > >

> > > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your questions

> > are

> > > > very interesting.

> > > >

> > > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a bit

> > > zoned

> > > > out. lol...

> > > >

> > > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

> that

> > > Sa

> > > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I

dont

> > > have

> > > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house

> that

> > > was

> > > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > > >

> > > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? because

> it

> > > has

> > > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry to

> > > bother

> > > > > you.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> > sector.

> > > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5

years,

> > as

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give the

> > > > results

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of

the

> > > > > jupiter?

> > > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > SA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > > "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > AS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> DUE

> > TO

> > > > JU.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > > "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> > > > checking

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

> over

> > > > this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A,

B,

> C

> > > OR

> > > > > > THEIR

> > > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th house

> > > > aspects

> > > > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much

delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that

> how

> > > much

> > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> > that

> > > > > antra

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> > MUCH ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

> > DUE

> > > TO

> > > > > SA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and

> also

> > > find

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but u

> > > forget

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other planets. "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

> saturn

> > > is

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> > cause

> > > > > delay

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting house

> C.

> > > Does

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> > saturn.

> > > > Guru

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > loC

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch the

> WS

> > > you

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be

happy

> > or

> > > > its

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > happy

> > > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages

> (based

> > on

> > > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> > happiness

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > > considered

> > > > > as

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus together

> in

> > > 12th

> > > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was 1st

> > lord

> > > > and

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> > mars

> > > > and

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> considered

> > > > good.

> > > > > No

> > > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > > > > significator,

> > > > > > > LoD

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

> clarify

> > > more

> > > > > if

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> > > > marriage

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > a)

> > > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod

> the

> > > > > > qualities

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. its

> > the

> > > > > karak

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in

House

> E

> > > and

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

> with

> > > 6th

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces

> the

> > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. Here

> > > Venus

> > > > is

> > > > > > > with 3

> > > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> jupiter...if

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So LoD

> is

> > > Sun

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when

> high

> > > > points

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> > explain

> > > > the

> > > > > > > delay,

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart.

> COuld

> > > you

> > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

> attack

> > > > > > recently

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > > characteristics

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> > singing

> > > a

> > > > > > > venusian

> > > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house (

> again

> > > not

> > > > > > good,

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > cause

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but

as

> > we

> > > > see

> > > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

> 7th

> > > > lord

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is

in

> > > 12th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

> are

> > > > high

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > > difference

> > > > > than

> > > > > > 3

> > > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> > results.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find

> out

> > > the

> > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> > else

> > > to

> > > > > > see.

> > > > > > > Lo

> > > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> > cannot

> > > > see

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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