Another chart-- analysis of marriage - Appologies and corrected data

July 19, 2005

Dear Krushnaji, Donna, Sandy and Group,

Yes, my god.. !!! I goofed up. Yes In rush I typed the YEAR wrong.

The WS casted is proper.

Sandy and Donna, Merci Merci Becceaup for pointing this out.

Krushnaji, please do not get confused. Please use this data. We

are EAGERLY waiting for your reply.

I will re-type the data properly.

20th April 1981

7:35 AM

Calcutta,

22N32

88E22

Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

Sorry about that,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, Donna Quinn

<DQuinn12@o...> wrote:

> Dear Ash and Group -

>

> There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as reposted by

Ash. Sandy

> caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering why

the data

> didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that the

year was

> posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of you

who are

> also wondering why nothing matches up.

>

> Thanks -

> Donna

>

> -

> " ashsam73 " <ashsam73>

>

> Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:49 AM

> Re: Another chart-- analysis

of marriage

>

> > Dear Krushnaji,

> > Pranam.

> >

> > You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in

> > engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if this

was

> > early.

> >

> > Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered that

you

> > could see this so clearly.

> >

> > Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am sure

other

> > list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

> >

> > I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick

> > reference.

> >

> > 20th April 1980

> > 7:35 AM

> > Calcutta,

> > 22N32

> > 88E22

> >

> > As 16 Ta 15

> > Su 7 Ar 13

> > Mo 15 Li 27

> > Ma 3 Ar 23

> > Me 28 Pi 51

> > JuR 9 Vi 48

> > Ve 10 Ar 30

> > SaR 11 Vi 58

> > Ra 14 Cn 2

> > Ke 14 Cp 2

> >

> > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa> wrote:

> >> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone thought

she

> >> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

> >>

> >> --Manoshi

> >>

> >> , " ashsam73 "

> >> <ashsam73> wrote:

> >> > Dear Manoshi,

> >> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> >> affair ?

> >> > Cheers !!!

> >> > Ash

> >> >

> >> > , " ashsam73 "

> >> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> >> > > Dear Manoshi,

> >> > >

> >> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined power.

> > So

> >> > if

> >> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> >> become

> >> > > strong.

> >> > >

> >> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So they

> > are

> >> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by 10

> >> > bindus.

> >> > >

> >> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK for

> >> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary

upchaya.

> >> > >

> >> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> >> result.

> >> > >

> >> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your

questions

> >> are

> >> > > very interesting.

> >> > >

> >> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a

bit

> >> > zoned

> >> > > out. lol...

> >> > >

> >> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

> > that

> >> > Sa

> >> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I

dont

> >> > have

> >> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house

that

> >> > was

> >> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> >> > >

> >> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> >> > >

> >> > > Cheers !!!

> >> > > Ash

> >> > >

> >> > > , " Manoshi

> >> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> >> > > > Dear Ash,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator?

because

> > it

> >> > has

> >> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry

to

> >> > bother

> >> > > > you.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > --Manoshi

> >> > > >

> >> > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> >> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> >> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> >> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> >> sector.

> >> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> >> > > > > Cheers !!!

> >> > > > > Ash

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> >> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> >> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5

years,

> >> as

> >> > > > there

> >> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give

the

> >> > > results

> >> > > > in

> >> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of

the

> >> > > > jupiter?

> >> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > --Manoshi

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > --- In

> >> , " ashsam73 "

> >> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Please read.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> >> TO

> >> > > SA.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> >> > > > > > > "

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > AS

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

MUCH ?

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE REDUCTION

DUE

> >> TO

> >> > > JU.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> >> > > > > > > "

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > --- In

> >> > , " ashsam73 "

> >> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are u

> >> > > checking

> >> > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

> > over

> >> > > this.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE A,

B,

> > C

> >> > OR

> >> > > > > THEIR

> >> > > > > > > LORDS

> >> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th

house

> >> > > aspects

> >> > > > > 2nd,

> >> > > > > > > 11th

> >> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much

delay.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on that

how

> >> > much

> >> > > > > delay.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see if

> >> that

> >> > > > antra

> >> > > > > > can

> >> > > > > > > > give the result.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> >> MUCH ?

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

REDUCTION

> >> DUE

> >> > TO

> >> > > > SA.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> >> > > > > > > > Ash

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > --- In

> >> > , " Manoshi

> >> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> >> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > --- In

> >> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and

also

> >> > find

> >> > > > the

> >> > > > > > delay

> >> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) but

u

> >> > forget

> >> > > > to

> >> > > > > > see

> >> > > > > > > the

> >> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other

planets. "

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

> > saturn

> >> > is

> >> > > > not

> >> > > > > > > > aspecting

> >> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> >> cause

> >> > > > delay

> >> > > > > I

> >> > > > > > > guess

> >> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting

house C.

> >> > Does

> >> > > > > > Jupiter

> >> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> >> saturn.

> >> > > Guru

> >> > > > > is

> >> > > > > > loC

> >> > > > > > > > so

> >> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch

the

> > WS

> >> > you

> >> > > > > have

> >> > > > > > in

> >> > > > > > > > > your

> >> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be

happy

> >> or

> >> > > its

> >> > > > > not

> >> > > > > > > happy

> >> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages

(based

> >> on

> >> > > > > > lessons) "

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> >> happiness

> >> > > > > before

> >> > > > > > > going

> >> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> >> > considered

> >> > > > as

> >> > > > > a

> >> > > > > > > factor

> >> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus

together in

> >> > 12th

> >> > > > > doesnt

> >> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was

1st

> >> lord

> >> > > and

> >> > > > > 7th

> >> > > > > > > lord

> >> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they are

> >> mars

> >> > > and

> >> > > > > venus

> >> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> >> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> > considered

> >> > > good.

> >> > > > No

> >> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> >> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> >> > > > significator,

> >> > > > > > LoD

> >> > > > > > > or

> >> > > > > > > > > LoE

> >> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

clarify

> >> > more

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > I

> >> > > > > > am

> >> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord for

> >> > > marriage

> >> > > > as

> >> > > > > > its

> >> > > > > > > a)

> >> > > > > > > > > 6th

> >> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its subperiod

the

> >> > > > > qualities

> >> > > > > > of

> >> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th.

its

> >> the

> >> > > > karak

> >> > > > > as

> >> > > > > > > well

> >> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in

House

> > E

> >> > and

> >> > > > its

> >> > > > > > with

> >> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

> > with

> >> > 6th

> >> > > > > lord.

> >> > > > > > > > > AGain

> >> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E reduces

the

> >> > > > > happiness

> >> > > > > > of

> >> > > > > > > the

> >> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points.

Here

> >> > Venus

> >> > > is

> >> > > > > > with 3

> >> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> > jupiter...if

> >> I

> >> > > am

> >> > > > > > wrong

> >> > > > > > > tell

> >> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So

LoD

> > is

> >> > Sun

> >> > > > > which

> >> > > > > > if

> >> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when

high

> >> > > points

> >> > > > > dasa

> >> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> >> explain

> >> > > the

> >> > > > > > delay,

> >> > > > > > > if

> >> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > <> >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> >> > > > > , " Manoshi

> >> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> >> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart.

COuld

> >> > you

> >> > > > > please

> >> > > > > > > > > analyse

> >> > > > > > > > > > > the

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

> > attack

> >> > > > > recently

> >> > > > > > and

> >> > > > > > > > > > mother

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> >> > > > characteristics

> >> > > > > > are

> >> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> >> singing

> >> > a

> >> > > > > > venusian

> >> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house (

again

> >> > not

> >> > > > > good,

> >> > > > > > a

> >> > > > > > > > > cause

> >> > > > > > > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )but

as

> >> we

> >> > > see

> >> > > > > > venus

> >> > > > > > > is

> >> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord and

> > 7th

> >> > > lord

> >> > > > in

> >> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord) is

in

> >> > 12th.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the points

> > are

> >> > > high

> >> > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > > seventh

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> >> > difference

> >> > > > than

> >> > > > > 3

> >> > > > > > > > > bindus

> >> > > > > > > > > > so

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> >> results.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to find

out

> >> > the

> >> > > > > > results

> >> > > > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me what

> >> else

> >> > to

> >> > > > > see.

> >> > > > > > Lo

> >> > > > > > > D

> >> > > > > > > > > > plays

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> >> cannot

> >> > > see

> >> > > > > much

> >> > > > > > > > delay.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > -

> >

July 21, 2005

Dear Krushnaji, Manoshi, Ben and Group,

I managed to have a chat with Krushnaji and Krushnaji explained to me

the the reason for the break up which I shall try to simplify and

reproduce.

Krushnaji, please review this and if I have not understood anything

clearly please feel free to corret me.

Ok here it goes ...........

Mars and Venus are in 1 sign and Venus is 6th lord.

This ladys affair might have started in Jupiter/Rahu antra. Rahu is

SD to Sa and Mo. Both Moon and Sa are favouring 5th, 7th and 12th

house meaning it has high points in the WS for these house.

Ju Karak for 5th and so Ju MD can give such things.

Now during this period of Ju/Ra this lady was in delay period so

marriage cant take place however friendship is shown.

Now another key point is that Sa and Ma are SD. This shows a

particular nature. Such a person might like to change taste

frequently or also might be egoistic or have an air about her.

So the relationship that started in Ju/Ra would be more emotional

(Moon).

Once Sa/Sa antra started here we need to study a particular

combination. Here please note that Sa and Ju are SD. Such things

are experienced when Sa and Ju become SD.

Sa is a planet of Truth and Guru is the biggest hypocrate. So here

both are becoming Samdharmi and in 5th house.

Now as per our laws the planet give the result of itself and its SD

also during its antra.

Also keenly note that Jupiter also has high points for 5th, 7th and

12th house like Shani.

So when Sa/Sa started the emotional part of the relationship ended

(Moon as Ra is SD Sa and Mo). Then effects of Ju also started to

play a role.

The antra of Sa/Sa started in 2003/june.

Once the Sa/Sa started this ladys nature must have begun to change.

She might have got more independent and gotten more egoistic.

Unfortunately we do not have the chart of this ladys ex, but her ex

might have started to put restrictions on her which would have

resulted in a difference of opinion.

This relationship mostly might have broken in 2nd sector of Sa/Sa

antra.

Manoshi, if you can please give more details and if possible can u

get the chart of this ladys ex and also confirm the timings of start

of relationships and break like dates etc and give facts it will be

super learning.

Manoshi, thank u very much for giving this chart, I surely got to

learn a few things from solving this one and Krushnajis answer.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji, Donna, Sandy and Group,

>

> Yes, my god.. !!! I goofed up. Yes In rush I typed the YEAR

wrong.

>

> The WS casted is proper.

>

> Sandy and Donna, Merci Merci Becceaup for pointing this out.

>

> Krushnaji, please do not get confused. Please use this data. We

> are EAGERLY waiting for your reply.

>

> I will re-type the data properly.

>

> 20th April 1981

> 7:35 AM

> Calcutta,

> 22N32

> 88E22

>

> Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

>

> Sorry about that,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , Donna Quinn

> <DQuinn12@o...> wrote:

> > Dear Ash and Group -

> >

> > There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as reposted by

> Ash. Sandy

> > caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering why

> the data

> > didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that the

> year was

> > posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of you

> who are

> > also wondering why nothing matches up.

> >

> > Thanks -

> > Donna

> >

> > -

> > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73>

> >

> > Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:49 AM

> > Re: Another chart-- analysis

> of marriage

> >

> > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > Pranam.

> > >

> > > You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in

> > > engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if this

> was

> > > early.

> > >

> > > Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered

that

> you

> > > could see this so clearly.

> > >

> > > Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am sure

> other

> > > list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

> > >

> > > I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick

> > > reference.

> > >

> > > 20th April 1980

> > > 7:35 AM

> > > Calcutta,

> > > 22N32

> > > 88E22

> > >

> > > As 16 Ta 15

> > > Su 7 Ar 13

> > > Mo 15 Li 27

> > > Ma 3 Ar 23

> > > Me 28 Pi 51

> > > JuR 9 Vi 48

> > > Ve 10 Ar 30

> > > SaR 11 Vi 58

> > > Ra 14 Cn 2

> > > Ke 14 Cp 2

> > >

> > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > >> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone

thought

> she

> > >> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

> > >>

> > >> --Manoshi

> > >>

> > >> , " ashsam73 "

> > >> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >> > Dear Manoshi,

> > >> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an

> > >> affair ?

> > >> > Cheers !!!

> > >> > Ash

> > >> >

> > >> > , " ashsam73 "

> > >> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined

power.

> > > So

> > >> > if

> > >> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has

> > >> become

> > >> > > strong.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So

they

> > > are

> > >> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by

10

> > >> > bindus.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK

for

> > >> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary

> upchaya.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give

> > >> result.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your

> questions

> > >> are

> > >> > > very interesting.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a

> bit

> > >> > zoned

> > >> > > out. lol...

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see

> > > that

> > >> > Sa

> > >> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I

> dont

> > >> > have

> > >> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house

> that

> > >> > was

> > >> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Cheers !!!

> > >> > > Ash

> > >> > >

> > >> > > , " Manoshi

> > >> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > >> > > > Dear Ash,

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator?

> because

> > > it

> > >> > has

> > >> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry

> to

> > >> > bother

> > >> > > > you.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > --Manoshi

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > >> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd

> > >> sector.

> > >> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > >> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > >> > > > > Ash

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > --- In

> , " Manoshi

> > >> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5

> years,

> > >> as

> > >> > > > there

> > >> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give

> the

> > >> > > results

> > >> > > > in

> > >> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of

> the

> > >> > > > jupiter?

> > >> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > --- In

> > >> , " ashsam73 "

> > >> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Please read.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

REDUCTION

> DUE

> > >> TO

> > >> > > SA.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > >> > > > > > > "

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > AS

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> MUCH ?

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

REDUCTION

> DUE

> > >> TO

> > >> > > JU.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > >> > > > > > > "

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > --- In

> > >> > , " ashsam73 "

> > >> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are

u

> > >> > > checking

> > >> > > > > for

> > >> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been

> > > over

> > >> > > this.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE

A,

> B,

> > > C

> > >> > OR

> > >> > > > > THEIR

> > >> > > > > > > LORDS

> > >> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th

> house

> > >> > > aspects

> > >> > > > > 2nd,

> > >> > > > > > > 11th

> > >> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How much

> delay.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on

that

> how

> > >> > much

> > >> > > > > delay.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see

if

> > >> that

> > >> > > > antra

> > >> > > > > > can

> > >> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of YEARS.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW

> > >> MUCH ?

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> REDUCTION

> > >> DUE

> > >> > TO

> > >> > > > SA.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > >> > > > > > > > Ash

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > --- In

> > >> > , " Manoshi

> > >> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > >> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > >> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage and

> also

> > >> > find

> > >> > > > the

> > >> > > > > > delay

> > >> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes)

but

> u

> > >> > forget

> > >> > > > to

> > >> > > > > > see

> > >> > > > > > > the

> > >> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other

> planets. "

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and

> > > saturn

> > >> > is

> > >> > > > not

> > >> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > >> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will

> > >> cause

> > >> > > > delay

> > >> > > > > I

> > >> > > > > > > guess

> > >> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting

> house C.

> > >> > Does

> > >> > > > > > Jupiter

> > >> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with

> > >> saturn.

> > >> > > Guru

> > >> > > > > is

> > >> > > > > > loC

> > >> > > > > > > > so

> > >> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even touch

> the

> > > WS

> > >> > you

> > >> > > > > have

> > >> > > > > > in

> > >> > > > > > > > > your

> > >> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to be

> happy

> > >> or

> > >> > > its

> > >> > > > > not

> > >> > > > > > > happy

> > >> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages

> (based

> > >> on

> > >> > > > > > lessons) "

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> > >> happiness

> > >> > > > > before

> > >> > > > > > > going

> > >> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also

> > >> > considered

> > >> > > > as

> > >> > > > > a

> > >> > > > > > > factor

> > >> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus

> together in

> > >> > 12th

> > >> > > > > doesnt

> > >> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was

> 1st

> > >> lord

> > >> > > and

> > >> > > > > 7th

> > >> > > > > > > lord

> > >> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they

are

> > >> mars

> > >> > > and

> > >> > > > > venus

> > >> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we do?

> > >> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> > > considered

> > >> > > good.

> > >> > > > No

> > >> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong

> > >> > > > significator,

> > >> > > > > > LoD

> > >> > > > > > > or

> > >> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > >> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

> clarify

> > >> > more

> > >> > > > if

> > >> > > > > I

> > >> > > > > > am

> > >> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord

for

> > >> > > marriage

> > >> > > > as

> > >> > > > > > its

> > >> > > > > > > a)

> > >> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > >> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its

subperiod

> the

> > >> > > > > qualities

> > >> > > > > > of

> > >> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th.

> its

> > >> the

> > >> > > > karak

> > >> > > > > as

> > >> > > > > > > well

> > >> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in

> House

> > > E

> > >> > and

> > >> > > > its

> > >> > > > > > with

> > >> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are

> > > with

> > >> > 6th

> > >> > > > > lord.

> > >> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > >> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E

reduces

> the

> > >> > > > > happiness

> > >> > > > > > of

> > >> > > > > > > the

> > >> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more points.

> Here

> > >> > Venus

> > >> > > is

> > >> > > > > > with 3

> > >> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> > > jupiter...if

> > >> I

> > >> > > am

> > >> > > > > > wrong

> > >> > > > > > > tell

> > >> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So

> LoD

> > > is

> > >> > Sun

> > >> > > > > which

> > >> > > > > > if

> > >> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when

> high

> > >> > > points

> > >> > > > > dasa

> > >> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please

> > >> explain

> > >> > > the

> > >> > > > > > delay,

> > >> > > > > > > if

> > >> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > >> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > >> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart.

> COuld

> > >> > you

> > >> > > > > please

> > >> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an

> > > attack

> > >> > > > > recently

> > >> > > > > > and

> > >> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > >> > > > characteristics

> > >> > > > > > are

> > >> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer, considering

> > >> singing

> > >> > a

> > >> > > > > > venusian

> > >> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house (

> again

> > >> > not

> > >> > > > > good,

> > >> > > > > > a

> > >> > > > > > > > > cause

> > >> > > > > > > > > > for

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )

but

> as

> > >> we

> > >> > > see

> > >> > > > > > venus

> > >> > > > > > > is

> > >> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st lord

and

> > > 7th

> > >> > > lord

> > >> > > > in

> > >> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th lord)

is

> in

> > >> > 12th.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the

points

> > > are

> > >> > > high

> > >> > > > > for

> > >> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > >> > difference

> > >> > > > than

> > >> > > > > 3

> > >> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > >> > > > > > > > > > so

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> > >> results.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to

find

> out

> > >> > the

> > >> > > > > > results

> > >> > > > > > > for

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me

what

> > >> else

> > >> > to

> > >> > > > > see.

> > >> > > > > > Lo

> > >> > > > > > > D

> > >> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what else? I

> > >> cannot

> > >> > > see

> > >> > > > > much

> > >> > > > > > > > delay.

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -

> > >

July 21, 2005

Dear Ash and all,

I dont know the girl very closely, but yes it's right that she

herself broke up saying the guy has to do more, study further etc

to continue the relationship. The time of break up is right too but

I dont know when did the relationship start. Thanx to Krushna ji

and Ash again.

regards

manoshi

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji, Manoshi, Ben and Group,

>

> I managed to have a chat with Krushnaji and Krushnaji explained to

me

> the the reason for the break up which I shall try to simplify and

> reproduce.

>

> Krushnaji, please review this and if I have not understood

anything

> clearly please feel free to corret me.

>

> Ok here it goes ...........

>

> Mars and Venus are in 1 sign and Venus is 6th lord.

>

> This ladys affair might have started in Jupiter/Rahu antra. Rahu

is

> SD to Sa and Mo. Both Moon and Sa are favouring 5th, 7th and 12th

> house meaning it has high points in the WS for these house.

>

> Ju Karak for 5th and so Ju MD can give such things.

>

> Now during this period of Ju/Ra this lady was in delay period so

> marriage cant take place however friendship is shown.

>

> Now another key point is that Sa and Ma are SD. This shows a

> particular nature. Such a person might like to change taste

> frequently or also might be egoistic or have an air about her.

>

> So the relationship that started in Ju/Ra would be more emotional

> (Moon).

>

> Once Sa/Sa antra started here we need to study a particular

> combination. Here please note that Sa and Ju are SD. Such things

> are experienced when Sa and Ju become SD.

>

> Sa is a planet of Truth and Guru is the biggest hypocrate. So

here

> both are becoming Samdharmi and in 5th house.

>

> Now as per our laws the planet give the result of itself and its

SD

> also during its antra.

>

> Also keenly note that Jupiter also has high points for 5th, 7th

and

> 12th house like Shani.

>

> So when Sa/Sa started the emotional part of the relationship ended

> (Moon as Ra is SD Sa and Mo). Then effects of Ju also started to

> play a role.

>

> The antra of Sa/Sa started in 2003/june.

>

> Once the Sa/Sa started this ladys nature must have begun to

change.

> She might have got more independent and gotten more egoistic.

> Unfortunately we do not have the chart of this ladys ex, but her

ex

> might have started to put restrictions on her which would have

> resulted in a difference of opinion.

>

> This relationship mostly might have broken in 2nd sector of Sa/Sa

> antra.

>

> Manoshi, if you can please give more details and if possible can u

> get the chart of this ladys ex and also confirm the timings of

start

> of relationships and break like dates etc and give facts it will

be

> super learning.

>

> Manoshi, thank u very much for giving this chart, I surely got to

> learn a few things from solving this one and Krushnajis answer.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji, Donna, Sandy and Group,

> >

> > Yes, my god.. !!! I goofed up. Yes In rush I typed the YEAR

> wrong.

> >

> > The WS casted is proper.

> >

> > Sandy and Donna, Merci Merci Becceaup for pointing this out.

> >

> > Krushnaji, please do not get confused. Please use this data.

We

> > are EAGERLY waiting for your reply.

> >

> > I will re-type the data properly.

> >

> > 20th April 1981

> > 7:35 AM

> > Calcutta,

> > 22N32

> > 88E22

> >

> > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> >

> > Sorry about that,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , Donna Quinn

> > <DQuinn12@o...> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and Group -

> > >

> > > There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as reposted

by

> > Ash. Sandy

> > > caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering

why

> > the data

> > > didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that

the

> > year was

> > > posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of

you

> > who are

> > > also wondering why nothing matches up.

> > >

> > > Thanks -

> > > Donna

> > >

> > > -

> > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73>

> > >

> > > Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:49 AM

> > > Re: Another chart--

analysis

> > of marriage

> > >

> > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > > Pranam.

> > > >

> > > > You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in

> > > > engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if

this

> > was

> > > > early.

> > > >

> > > > Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered

> that

> > you

> > > > could see this so clearly.

> > > >

> > > > Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am

sure

> > other

> > > > list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick

> > > > reference.

> > > >

> > > > 20th April 1980

> > > > 7:35 AM

> > > > Calcutta,

> > > > 22N32

> > > > 88E22

> > > >

> > > > As 16 Ta 15

> > > > Su 7 Ar 13

> > > > Mo 15 Li 27

> > > > Ma 3 Ar 23

> > > > Me 28 Pi 51

> > > > JuR 9 Vi 48

> > > > Ve 10 Ar 30

> > > > SaR 11 Vi 58

> > > > Ra 14 Cn 2

> > > > Ke 14 Cp 2

> > > >

> > > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > > > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > > > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > > > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > > > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > > > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > > > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > > > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > > > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > > > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > > > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > > > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > >> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone

> thought

> > she

> > > >> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

> > > >>

> > > >> --Manoshi

> > > >>

> > > >> , " ashsam73 "

> > > >> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > >> > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or

an

> > > >> affair ?

> > > >> > Cheers !!!

> > > >> > Ash

> > > >> >

> > > >> > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > >> > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > >> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined

> power.

> > > > So

> > > >> > if

> > > >> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me

has

> > > >> become

> > > >> > > strong.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So

> they

> > > > are

> > > >> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me

by

> 10

> > > >> > bindus.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is

NK

> for

> > > >> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary

> > upchaya.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can

give

> > > >> result.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your

> > questions

> > > >> are

> > > >> > > very interesting.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel

a

> > bit

> > > >> > zoned

> > > >> > > out. lol...

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will

see

> > > > that

> > > >> > Sa

> > > >> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1.

I

> > dont

> > > >> > have

> > > >> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th

house

> > that

> > > >> > was

> > > >> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Her father should take care during the period of

Mercury.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Cheers !!!

> > > >> > > Ash

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > >> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > >> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator?

> > because

> > > > it

> > > >> > has

> > > >> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain?

Sorry

> > to

> > > >> > bother

> > > >> > > > you.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > >> > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or

3rd

> > > >> sector.

> > > >> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >> > > > > Ash

> > > >> > > > >

> > > >> > > > > --- In

> > , " Manoshi

> > > >> > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >> > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is 27.5

> > years,

> > > >> as

> > > >> > > > there

> > > >> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will

give

> > the

> > > >> > > results

> > > >> > > > in

> > > >> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check

of

> > the

> > > >> > > > jupiter?

> > > >> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?

> > > >> > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > >> > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > --- In

> > > >> , " ashsam73 "

> > > >> > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find

HOW

> > MUCH ?

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> REDUCTION

> > DUE

> > > >> TO

> > > >> > > SA.

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > >> > > > > > > "

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > AS

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find

HOW

> > MUCH ?

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> REDUCTION

> > DUE

> > > >> TO

> > > >> > > JU.

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > >> > > > > > > "

> > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > --- In

> > > >> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > >> > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why

are

> u

> > > >> > > checking

> > > >> > > > > for

> > > >> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have

been

> > > > over

> > > >> > > this.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on

HOUSE

> A,

> > B,

> > > > C

> > > >> > OR

> > > >> > > > > THEIR

> > > >> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > >> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF

SHANI.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th

> > house

> > > >> > > aspects

> > > >> > > > > 2nd,

> > > >> > > > > > > 11th

> > > >> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How

much

> > delay.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on

> that

> > how

> > > >> > much

> > > >> > > > > delay.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and

see

> if

> > > >> that

> > > >> > > > antra

> > > >> > > > > > can

> > > >> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of

YEARS.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find

HOW

> > > >> MUCH ?

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> > REDUCTION

> > > >> DUE

> > > >> > TO

> > > >> > > > SA.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > >> > , " Manoshi

> > > >> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > >> > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > >> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in marriage

and

> > also

> > > >> > find

> > > >> > > > the

> > > >> > > > > > delay

> > > >> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes)

> but

> > u

> > > >> > forget

> > > >> > > > to

> > > >> > > > > > see

> > > >> > > > > > > the

> > > >> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other

> > planets. "

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house

and

> > > > saturn

> > > >> > is

> > > >> > > > not

> > > >> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > >> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn

will

> > > >> cause

> > > >> > > > delay

> > > >> > > > > I

> > > >> > > > > > > guess

> > > >> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting

> > house C.

> > > >> > Does

> > > >> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > >> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is

with

> > > >> saturn.

> > > >> > > Guru

> > > >> > > > > is

> > > >> > > > > > loC

> > > >> > > > > > > > so

> > > >> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even

touch

> > the

> > > > WS

> > > >> > you

> > > >> > > > > have

> > > >> > > > > > in

> > > >> > > > > > > > > your

> > > >> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to

be

> > happy

> > > >> or

> > > >> > > its

> > > >> > > > > not

> > > >> > > > > > > happy

> > > >> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple

marriages

> > (based

> > > >> on

> > > >> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital

> > > >> happiness

> > > >> > > > > before

> > > >> > > > > > > going

> > > >> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is

also

> > > >> > considered

> > > >> > > > as

> > > >> > > > > a

> > > >> > > > > > > factor

> > > >> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus

> > together in

> > > >> > 12th

> > > >> > > > > doesnt

> > > >> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt

was

> > 1st

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > > and

> > > >> > > > > 7th

> > > >> > > > > > > lord

> > > >> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case

they

> are

> > > >> mars

> > > >> > > and

> > > >> > > > > venus

> > > >> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do we

do?

> > > >> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> > > > considered

> > > >> > > good.

> > > >> > > > No

> > > >> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first

strong

> > > >> > > > significator,

> > > >> > > > > > LoD

> > > >> > > > > > > or

> > > >> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > >> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

> > clarify

> > > >> > more

> > > >> > > > if

> > > >> > > > > I

> > > >> > > > > > am

> > > >> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th

lord

> for

> > > >> > > marriage

> > > >> > > > as

> > > >> > > > > > its

> > > >> > > > > > > a)

> > > >> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > >> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its

> subperiod

> > the

> > > >> > > > > qualities

> > > >> > > > > > of

> > > >> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in

12th.

> > its

> > > >> the

> > > >> > > > karak

> > > >> > > > > as

> > > >> > > > > > > well

> > > >> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its

in

> > House

> > > > E

> > > >> > and

> > > >> > > > its

> > > >> > > > > > with

> > > >> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE

are

> > > > with

> > > >> > 6th

> > > >> > > > > lord.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > >> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E

> reduces

> > the

> > > >> > > > > happiness

> > > >> > > > > > of

> > > >> > > > > > > the

> > > >> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more

points.

> > Here

> > > >> > Venus

> > > >> > > is

> > > >> > > > > > with 3

> > > >> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this

step.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> > > > jupiter...if

> > > >> I

> > > >> > > am

> > > >> > > > > > wrong

> > > >> > > > > > > tell

> > > >> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life.

So

> > LoD

> > > > is

> > > >> > Sun

> > > >> > > > > which

> > > >> > > > > > if

> > > >> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so

when

> > high

> > > >> > > points

> > > >> > > > > dasa

> > > >> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first

please

> > > >> explain

> > > >> > > the

> > > >> > > > > > delay,

> > > >> > > > > > > if

> > > >> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > >> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this

chart.

> > COuld

> > > >> > you

> > > >> > > > > please

> > > >> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had

an

> > > > attack

> > > >> > > > > recently

> > > >> > > > > > and

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > >> > > > characteristics

> > > >> > > > > > are

> > > >> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer,

considering

> > > >> singing

> > > >> > a

> > > >> > > > > > venusian

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and venus together in 12th house

(

> > again

> > > >> > not

> > > >> > > > > good,

> > > >> > > > > > a

> > > >> > > > > > > > > cause

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > delay in marriage as given in lesson )

> but

> > as

> > > >> we

> > > >> > > see

> > > >> > > > > > venus

> > > >> > > > > > > is

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord and mars seventh lord so 1st

lord

> and

> > > > 7th

> > > >> > > lord

> > > >> > > > in

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > conjunction

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > should be good...no? , mars (7th

lord)

> is

> > in

> > > >> > 12th.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > no zeroes in work sheet and all the

> points

> > > > are

> > > >> > > high

> > > >> > > > > for

> > > >> > > > > > > > > seventh

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > house except for sun and venus ( NK).

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn doesnt aspect any luminary.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In SAV chart 1st and 7th house have no

> > > >> > difference

> > > >> > > > than

> > > >> > > > > 3

> > > >> > > > > > > > > bindus

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > so

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > good.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lo D is sun, and must be eager to give

> > > >> results.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now i dont know how do we proceed to

> find

> > out

> > > >> > the

> > > >> > > > > > results

> > > >> > > > > > > for

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > marrage date. Please guide. Tell me

> what

> > > >> else

> > > >> > to

> > > >> > > > > see.

> > > >> > > > > > Lo

> > > >> > > > > > > D

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > plays

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > important factor, I know , what

else? I

> > > >> cannot

> > > >> > > see

> > > >> > > > > much

> > > >> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > >

July 22, 2005

Dear Manoshi,

Is there any possibility to find out what was the age difference between the lady and her ex. From my chat with Krushaji it seems that there might be a lot of age difference. The guy maybe born in 1974 or 1975.

If you can find out it will be good for learning.

Cheers !!!

AshManoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

Dear Ash and all,I dont know the girl very closely, but yes it's right that she herself broke up saying the guy has to do more, study further etc to continue the relationship. The time of break up is right too but I dont know when did the relationship start. Thanx to Krushna ji and Ash again.regardsmanoshi , "ashsam73" wrote:> Dear Krushnaji, Manoshi, Ben and Group,> > I managed to have a chat with Krushnaji and Krushnaji explained to me > the the reason for the break up which I shall try to simplify and > reproduce. > > Krushnaji, please review this and if I have not understood anything > clearly please feel free to corret me.> > Ok here it goes ...........> > Mars and Venus are in

1 sign and Venus is 6th lord. > > This ladys affair might have started in Jupiter/Rahu antra. Rahu is > SD to Sa and Mo. Both Moon and Sa are favouring 5th, 7th and 12th > house meaning it has high points in the WS for these house.> > Ju Karak for 5th and so Ju MD can give such things.> > Now during this period of Ju/Ra this lady was in delay period so > marriage cant take place however friendship is shown.> > Now another key point is that Sa and Ma are SD. This shows a > particular nature. Such a person might like to change taste > frequently or also might be egoistic or have an air about her.> > So the relationship that started in Ju/Ra would be more emotional > (Moon).> > Once Sa/Sa antra started here we need to study a particular > combination. Here please note that Sa and Ju are SD. Such things > are experienced when Sa and Ju become

SD.> > Sa is a planet of Truth and Guru is the biggest hypocrate. So here > both are becoming Samdharmi and in 5th house.> > Now as per our laws the planet give the result of itself and its SD > also during its antra.> > Also keenly note that Jupiter also has high points for 5th, 7th and > 12th house like Shani.> > So when Sa/Sa started the emotional part of the relationship ended > (Moon as Ra is SD Sa and Mo). Then effects of Ju also started to > play a role. > > The antra of Sa/Sa started in 2003/june. > > Once the Sa/Sa started this ladys nature must have begun to change. > She might have got more independent and gotten more egoistic. > Unfortunately we do not have the chart of this ladys ex, but her ex > might have started to put restrictions on her which would have > resulted in a difference of opinion.>

> This relationship mostly might have broken in 2nd sector of Sa/Sa > antra.> > > Manoshi, if you can please give more details and if possible can u > get the chart of this ladys ex and also confirm the timings of start > of relationships and break like dates etc and give facts it will be > super learning.> > Manoshi, thank u very much for giving this chart, I surely got to > learn a few things from solving this one and Krushnajis answer.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > > > > > , "ashsam73" > wrote:> > Dear Krushnaji, Donna, Sandy and Group,> > > > Yes, my god.. !!! I goofed up. Yes In rush I typed the YEAR > wrong. > > > > The WS casted is proper.> > > > Sandy and Donna, Merci Merci Becceaup for

pointing this out. > > > > Krushnaji, please do not get confused. Please use this data. We > > are EAGERLY waiting for your reply.> > > > I will re-type the data properly.> > > > 20th April 1981> > 7:35 AM> > Calcutta,> > 22N32> > 88E22> > > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa> > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6> > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10> > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15> > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17> > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13> > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7> > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21> > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7> > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12> > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5> > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6> > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20> > > > > > Sorry about that,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > --- In

, Donna Quinn > > wrote:> > > Dear Ash and Group -> > > > > > There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as reposted by > > Ash. Sandy > > > caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering why > > the data > > > didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that the > > year was > > > posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of you > > who are > > > also wondering why nothing matches up.> > > > > > Thanks -> > > Donna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > Tuesday, July

19, 2005 3:49 AM> > > Re: Another chart-- analysis > > of marriage> > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji,> > > > Pranam.> > > >> > > > You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break in> > > > engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if this > > was> > > > early.> > > >> > > > Can you please explain how or what all u saw and considered > that > > you> > > > could see this so clearly.> > > >> > > > Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am sure > > other> > > > list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)> > > >> > > > I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your quick>

> > > reference.> > > >> > > > 20th April 1980> > > > 7:35 AM> > > > Calcutta,> > > > 22N32> > > > 88E22> > > >> > > > As 16 Ta 15> > > > Su 7 Ar 13> > > > Mo 15 Li 27> > > > Ma 3 Ar 23> > > > Me 28 Pi 51> > > > JuR 9 Vi 48> > > > Ve 10 Ar 30> > > > SaR 11 Vi 58> > > > Ra 14 Cn 2> > > > Ke 14 Cp 2> > > >> > > >> > > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa> > > > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6> > > > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10> > > > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15> > > > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17> > > > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13> > > > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7> > > > 7 26 8 17 15

23 15 9 21> > > > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7> > > > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12> > > > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5> > > > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6> > > > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanking you,> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Manoshi > > Chatterjee"> > > > wrote:> > > >> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone > thought > > she> > > >> would get married to. It was a long term affair.> > > >>> > > >> --Manoshi> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> --- In

, "ashsam73"> > > >> wrote:> > > >> > Dear Manoshi,> > > >> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement or an> > > >> affair ?> > > >> > Cheers !!!> > > >> > Ash> > > >> >> > > >> > , "ashsam73"> > > >> > wrote:> > > >> > > Dear Manoshi,> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined > power.> > > > So> > > >> > if> > > >> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how Me has> > > >> become> > > >> > > strong.> > >

>> > >> > > >> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me. So > they> > > > are> > > >> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of Me by > 10> > > >> > bindus.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is NK > for> > > >> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in primary > > upchaya.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can give> > > >> result.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your > > questions> > > >> are> > > >> > > very interesting.> > > >>

> >> > > >> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I feel a > > bit> > > >> > zoned> > > >> > > out. lol...> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You will see> > > > that> > > >> > Sa> > > >> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except 1. I > > dont> > > >> > have> > > >> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th house > > that> > > >> > was> > > >> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Her father should take care during the period of Mercury.> > > >> > >> >

> >> > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > Ash> > > >> > >> > > >> > > , "Manoshi> > > >> > > Chatterjee" wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator? > > because> > > > it> > > >> > has> > > >> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain? Sorry > > to> > > >> > bother> > > >> > > > you.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --Manoshi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >

> >> > > > > > , "ashsam73"> > > >> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > >> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd or 3rd> > > >> sector.> > > >> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.> > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > > Ash> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > , "Manoshi> > > >> > > > > Chatterjee" wrote:> > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is

causing full delay which is 27.5 > > years,> > > >> as> > > >> > > > there> > > >> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will give > > the> > > >> > > results> > > >> > > > in> > > >> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the check of > > the> > > >> > > > jupiter?> > > >> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am rushing?> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > --Manoshi> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > --- In> > > >> , "ashsam73"> >

> >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Please read.> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > "Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW > > MUCH ?> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE > REDUCTION > > DUE> > > >> TO> > > >> > > SA.> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.> > > >> > > > > > > "> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >>

> > > > > > AS> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW > > MUCH ?> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE > REDUCTION > > DUE> > > >> TO> > > >> > > JU.> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.> > > >> > > > > > > "> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > , "ashsam73"> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > >>

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!! why are > u> > > >> > > checking> > > >> > > > > for> > > >> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have been> > > > over> > > >> > > this.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on HOUSE > A,

> > B,> > > > C> > > >> > OR> > > >> > > > > THEIR> > > >> > > > > > > LORDS> > > >> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SHANI.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from 5th > > house> > > >> > > aspects> > > >> > > > > 2nd,> > > >> > > > > > > 11th> > > >> > > > > > > > and 7th.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > You

are not answering this question. How much > > delay.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on > that > > how> > > >> > much> > > >> > > > > delay.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will check.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and see > if> > > >> that> > > >> > > > antra> > > >> > > > > > can> > > >> > > > > > > > give the result.> > > >> > > > > > >

>> > > >> > > > > > > > You have to find the "Delay" in terms of YEARS.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find HOW> > > >> MUCH ?> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE > > REDUCTION> > > >> DUE> > > >> > TO> > > >> > > > SA.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.> > > >> > > > > > > >>

> > >> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > > > > > Ash> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > , "Manoshi> > > >> > > > > > > Chatterjee"> > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > > > , "ashsam73"> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >

> Dear Ash,> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your guidance:> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >1)" Step one is to find delay in marriage and > > also> > > >> > find> > > >> > > > the> > > >> > > > > > delay> > > >> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see zeroes) > but > > u> > > >> > forget> > > >> > > > to> > > >> > > > > > see> > > >> > > > > > > the> > > >> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other

> > planets."> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house and> > > > saturn> > > >> > is> > > >> > > > not> > > >> > > > > > > > aspecting> > > >> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So saturn will> > > >> cause> > > >> > > > delay> > > >> > > > > I> > > >> > > > > > > guess> > > >> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is aspecting > > house C.> > > >> > Does> > > >> > > > > > Jupiter> > > >> > > > > > > >

> enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is with> > > >> saturn.> > > >> > > Guru> > > >> > > > > is> > > >> > > > > > loC> > > >> > > > > > > > so> > > >> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >2)" I am assuming that before you even touch > > the> > > > WS> > > >> > you> > > >> > > > > have> > > >> > > > > > in> > > >> > > > > > > > > your> > > >> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the

marriage is going to be > > happy> > > >> or> > > >> > > its> > > >> > > > > not> > > >> > > > > > > happy> > > >> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple marriages > > (based> > > >> on> > > >> > > > > > lessons) "> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the marital> > > >> happiness> > > >> > > > > before> > > >> > > > > > > going> > > >> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is also> > > >> > considered> > > >> > > >

as> > > >> > > > > a> > > >> > > > > > > factor> > > >> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus > > together in> > > >> > 12th> > > >> > > > > doesnt> > > >> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt was > > 1st> > > >> lord> > > >> > > and> > > >> > > > > 7th> > > >> > > > > > > lord> > > >> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case they > are> > > >> mars> > > >> > > and> > > >> > > > > venus> > > >> > > > > > > > > which us not

considered good, so what do we do?> > > >> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be> > > > considered> > > >> > > good.> > > >> > > > No> > > >> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first strong> > > >> > > > significator,> > > >> > > > > > LoD> > > >> > > > > > > or> > > >> > > > > > > > > LoE> > > >> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage. Please

> > clarify> > > >> > more> > > >> > > > if> > > >> > > > > I> > > >> > > > > > am> > > >> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th lord > for> > > >> > > marriage> > > >> > > > as> > > >> > > > > > its> > > >> > > > > > > a)> > > >>

> > > > > > > > 6th> > > >> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its > subperiod > > the> > > >> > > > > qualities> > > >> > > > > > of> > > >> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in 12th. > > its> > > >> the> > > >> > > > karak> > > >> > > > > as> > > >> > > > > > > well> > > >> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5)" Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its in > > House> > > > E> > > >> > and> > > >> > > > its> > > >> > > > > > with> > > >> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and LoE are> > > > with> > > >> > 6th> > > >> > > > > lord.> > > >> > > > > > > > > AGain> > > >> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E > reduces > > the> > > >> > > > > happiness> > > >> > > > > > of> > > >> > > > > > > the> > > >> > > >

> > > > > house and its worst if its with more points. > > Here> > > >> > Venus> > > >> > > is> > > >> > > > > > with 3> > > >> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this step.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or> > > > jupiter...if> > > >>

I> > > >> > > am> > > >> > > > > > wrong> > > >> > > > > > > tell> > > >> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of life. So > > LoD> > > > is> > > >> > Sun> > > >> > > > > which> > > >> > > > > > if> > > >> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so when > > high> > > >> > > points> > > >> > > > > dasa> > > >> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first please> > > >> explain> > > >> > > the> > > >> > > > > > delay,> > > >> > > >

> > > if> > > >> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > --manoshi> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > <> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > > > > , "Manoshi> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee"> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash

and all,> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this chart. > > COuld> > > >> > you> > > >> > > > > please> > > >> > > > > > > > > analyse> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had an> > > > attack> > > >> > > > > recently> > > >> > > > > > and> > > >> > > > > > > > > > mother> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.> > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus> > > >> > > > characteristics> > > >> > > > > > are> > > >> > > > > > > > > spoilt> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very

good singer, considering> > > >> singing> > > >> > a> > > >> > > > > > venusian> > > >> > > > > > > > > > quality)> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >=== message truncated ===

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July 22, 2005

Dear Ash,

I dont think so. They were highschool friends. not more than 3-4

years in any case.

--Manoshi

, Ash <ashsam73>

wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> Is there any possibility to find out what was the age difference

between the lady and her ex. From my chat with Krushaji it seems

that there might be a lot of age difference. The guy maybe born in

1974 or 1975.

> If you can find out it will be good for learning.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash and all,

>

> I dont know the girl very closely, but yes it's right that she

> herself broke up saying the guy has to do more, study further etc

> to continue the relationship. The time of break up is right too

but

> I dont know when did the relationship start. Thanx to Krushna ji

> and Ash again.

>

> regards

> manoshi

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji, Manoshi, Ben and Group,

> >

> > I managed to have a chat with Krushnaji and Krushnaji explained

to

> me

> > the the reason for the break up which I shall try to simplify

and

> > reproduce.

> >

> > Krushnaji, please review this and if I have not understood

> anything

> > clearly please feel free to corret me.

> >

> > Ok here it goes ...........

> >

> > Mars and Venus are in 1 sign and Venus is 6th lord.

> >

> > This ladys affair might have started in Jupiter/Rahu antra. Rahu

> is

> > SD to Sa and Mo. Both Moon and Sa are favouring 5th, 7th and

12th

> > house meaning it has high points in the WS for these house.

> >

> > Ju Karak for 5th and so Ju MD can give such things.

> >

> > Now during this period of Ju/Ra this lady was in delay period so

> > marriage cant take place however friendship is shown.

> >

> > Now another key point is that Sa and Ma are SD. This shows a

> > particular nature. Such a person might like to change taste

> > frequently or also might be egoistic or have an air about her.

> >

> > So the relationship that started in Ju/Ra would be more

emotional

> > (Moon).

> >

> > Once Sa/Sa antra started here we need to study a particular

> > combination. Here please note that Sa and Ju are SD. Such things

> > are experienced when Sa and Ju become SD.

> >

> > Sa is a planet of Truth and Guru is the biggest hypocrate. So

> here

> > both are becoming Samdharmi and in 5th house.

> >

> > Now as per our laws the planet give the result of itself and its

> SD

> > also during its antra.

> >

> > Also keenly note that Jupiter also has high points for 5th, 7th

> and

> > 12th house like Shani.

> >

> > So when Sa/Sa started the emotional part of the relationship

ended

> > (Moon as Ra is SD Sa and Mo). Then effects of Ju also started to

> > play a role.

> >

> > The antra of Sa/Sa started in 2003/june.

> >

> > Once the Sa/Sa started this ladys nature must have begun to

> change.

> > She might have got more independent and gotten more egoistic.

> > Unfortunately we do not have the chart of this ladys ex, but her

> ex

> > might have started to put restrictions on her which would have

> > resulted in a difference of opinion.

> >

> > This relationship mostly might have broken in 2nd sector of

Sa/Sa

> > antra.

> >

> > Manoshi, if you can please give more details and if possible can

u

> > get the chart of this ladys ex and also confirm the timings of

> start

> > of relationships and break like dates etc and give facts it will

> be

> > super learning.

> >

> > Manoshi, thank u very much for giving this chart, I surely got

to

> > learn a few things from solving this one and Krushnajis answer.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji, Donna, Sandy and Group,

> > >

> > > Yes, my god.. !!! I goofed up. Yes In rush I typed the YEAR

> > wrong.

> > >

> > > The WS casted is proper.

> > >

> > > Sandy and Donna, Merci Merci Becceaup for pointing this out.

> > >

> > > Krushnaji, please do not get confused. Please use this data.

> We

> > > are EAGERLY waiting for your reply.

> > >

> > > I will re-type the data properly.

> > >

> > > 20th April 1981

> > > 7:35 AM

> > > Calcutta,

> > > 22N32

> > > 88E22

> > >

> > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> > >

> > > Sorry about that,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , Donna Quinn

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash and Group -

> > > >

> > > > There's a mistake on the birth data of this woman as

reposted

> by

> > > Ash. Sandy

> > > > caught the error and emailed me privately about it wondering

> why

> > > the data

> > > > didn't match. I rechecked the oiginal date and realized that

> the

> > > year was

> > > > posted incorrectly. It should be 1981, NOT 1980 for those of

> you

> > > who are

> > > > also wondering why nothing matches up.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks -

> > > > Donna

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > To:

> > > > Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:49 AM

> > > > Re: Another chart--

> analysis

> > > of marriage

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > > > Pranam.

> > > > >

> > > > > You had asked me a qustion about this lady having a break

in

> > > > > engagement or a break in affair. You had also asked me if

> this

> > > was

> > > > > early.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please explain how or what all u saw and

considered

> > that

> > > you

> > > > > could see this so clearly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please explain this to us. Manoshi, Ben, Myself and I am

> sure

> > > other

> > > > > list members would be waiting to hear your comments :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I will print this ladys degrees, and WS points for your

quick

> > > > > reference.

> > > > >

> > > > > 20th April 1980

> > > > > 7:35 AM

> > > > > Calcutta,

> > > > > 22N32

> > > > > 88E22

> > > > >

> > > > > As 16 Ta 15

> > > > > Su 7 Ar 13

> > > > > Mo 15 Li 27

> > > > > Ma 3 Ar 23

> > > > > Me 28 Pi 51

> > > > > JuR 9 Vi 48

> > > > > Ve 10 Ar 30

> > > > > SaR 11 Vi 58

> > > > > Ra 14 Cn 2

> > > > > Ke 14 Cp 2

> > > > >

> > > > > Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > > > > 1 29 7 21 4 20 11 14 6

> > > > > 2 24 5 21 14 25 20 8 10

> > > > > 3 37 10 24 24 27 17 9 15

> > > > > 4 32 7 24 5 28 12 13 17

> > > > > 5 19 5 17 3 25 19 7 13

> > > > > 6 23 15 28 17 26 19 16 7

> > > > > 7 26 8 17 15 23 15 9 21

> > > > > 8 29 11 13 4 32 13 13 7

> > > > > 9 32 7 27 6 26 15 17 12

> > > > > 10 38 8 30 16 11 9 13 5

> > > > > 11 27 16 26 18 19 16 9 6

> > > > > 12 21 5 14 9 25 17 8 20

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >> yes Ash, Recently she broke up with a guy whom everyone

> > thought

> > > she

> > > > >> would get married to. It was a long term affair.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> --Manoshi

> > > > >>

> > > > >> --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> wrote:

> > > > >> > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >> > By any chance did this girl have a break in engagement

or

> an

> > > > >> affair ?

> > > > >> > Cheers !!!

> > > > >> > Ash

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> > wrote:

> > > > >> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Yes, it has most power. The WS gives us the combined

> > power.

> > > > > So

> > > > >> > if

> > > > >> > > u open H7 worksheet in the KAS program u can see how

Me

> has

> > > > >> become

> > > > >> > > strong.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Me has Sa and Ju both with 3 bindus in 7th from Me.

So

> > they

> > > > > are

> > > > >> > > aspecting Me with 5 bindus each increasing power of

Me

> by

> > 10

> > > > >> > bindus.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Me also has good status as Karak for marriage. Me is

> NK

> > for

> > > > >> > > marriage and its in 10th from 2nd house. So in

primary

> > > upchaya.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Me is not aspecting House A,B or C. So Me itself can

> give

> > > > >> result.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > No worries Manoshi, you are not bothering me. Your

> > > questions

> > > > >> are

> > > > >> > > very interesting.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Its just that with all this time zone difference I

feel

> a

> > > bit

> > > > >> > zoned

> > > > >> > > out. lol...

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Also Manoshi, you should study all 12 houses. You

will

> see

> > > > > that

> > > > >> > Sa

> > > > >> > > and Ju have made Me strong for all 12 houses except

1.

> I

> > > dont

> > > > >> > have

> > > > >> > > the chart in front of me but I think it was the 10th

> house

> > > that

> > > > >> > was

> > > > >> > > weak. Apart from that all 12 houses were strong.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Her father should take care during the period of

> Mercury.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >> > > Ash

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > --- In

> , " Manoshi

> > > > >> > > Chatterjee " wrote:

> > > > >> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > how mercury? how is it the strongest significator?

> > > because

> > > > > it

> > > > >> > has

> > > > >> > > > the highest points in WS? can you please explain?

> Sorry

> > > to

> > > > >> > bother

> > > > >> > > > you.

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > --- In

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> > > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >> > > > > Marriage will be there in Me antra either in 2nd

or

> 3rd

> > > > >> sector.

> > > > >> > > > > Me is the strongest significator.

> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >> > > > > Ash

> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > --- In

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > > >> > > > > Chatterjee " wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > ok, so Saturn is causing full delay which is

27.5

> > > years,

> > > > >> as

> > > > >> > > > there

> > > > >> > > > > > are no zeroes in the chart the LoD or LoE will

> give

> > > the

> > > > >> > > results

> > > > >> > > > in

> > > > >> > > > > > the 1/3rd of its antra. but whta about the

check

> of

> > > the

> > > > >> > > > jupiter?

> > > > >> > > > > > how do we judge it? and am i right or am

rushing?

> > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > --- In

> > > > >> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > Please read.

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > " Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find

> HOW

> > > MUCH ?

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> > REDUCTION

> > > DUE

> > > > >> TO

> > > > >> > > SA.

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > >> > > > > > > "

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > AS

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > :Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please find

> HOW

> > > MUCH ?

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> > REDUCTION

> > > DUE

> > > > >> TO

> > > > >> > > JU.

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > >> > > > > > > "

> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Basics !!!!

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th aspects House A,B and C !!!

why

> are

> > u

> > > > >> > > checking

> > > > >> > > > > for

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Shanis aspect on LoD and LoE.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Please study the lessons carefully. We have

> been

> > > > > over

> > > > >> > > this.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > For finding delay check Shanis aspect on

> HOUSE

> > A,

> > > B,

> > > > > C

> > > > >> > OR

> > > > >> > > > > THEIR

> > > > >> > > > > > > LORDS

> > > > >> > > > > > > > BUT ALL 3 MUST BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF

> SHANI.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Shani in 5th delays marriage. Shani from

5th

> > > house

> > > > >> > > aspects

> > > > >> > > > > 2nd,

> > > > >> > > > > > > 11th

> > > > >> > > > > > > > and 7th.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Now how much delay.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > You are not answering this question. How

> much

> > > delay.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > In a hint I gave the degree of Sa. Based on

> > that

> > > how

> > > > >> > much

> > > > >> > > > > delay.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > After that see how much delay Guru will

check.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > After that check which antra is running and

> see

> > if

> > > > >> that

> > > > >> > > > antra

> > > > >> > > > > > can

> > > > >> > > > > > > > give the result.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > You have to find the " Delay " in terms of

> YEARS.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Ok, now try again.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hint : Sa is casting full delay. Please

find

> HOW

> > > > >> MUCH ?

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Based on the DELAY CAUSED BY SA, FIND THE

> > > REDUCTION

> > > > >> DUE

> > > > >> > TO

> > > > >> > > > SA.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > U are on the right track.

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >> > , " Manoshi

> > > > >> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ok let me try from here under your

guidance:

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >1) " Step one is to find delay in

marriage

> and

> > > also

> > > > >> > find

> > > > >> > > > the

> > > > >> > > > > > delay

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > causing planets (you did try to see

zeroes)

> > but

> > > u

> > > > >> > forget

> > > > >> > > > to

> > > > >> > > > > > see

> > > > >> > > > > > > the

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > delay caused by Shani and Guru and other

> > > planets. "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > .... saturn and guru are in the 5th house

> and

> > > > > saturn

> > > > >> > is

> > > > >> > > > not

> > > > >> > > > > > > > aspecting

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > LOD or LoE but house C, House B. So

saturn

> will

> > > > >> cause

> > > > >> > > > delay

> > > > >> > > > > I

> > > > >> > > > > > > guess

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > but not full...right? Jupiter is

aspecting

> > > house C.

> > > > >> > Does

> > > > >> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > enhance delay? or control delay? Guru is

> with

> > > > >> saturn.

> > > > >> > > Guru

> > > > >> > > > > is

> > > > >> > > > > > loC

> > > > >> > > > > > > > so

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > saturn will cause delay.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >2) " I am assuming that before you even

> touch

> > > the

> > > > > WS

> > > > >> > you

> > > > >> > > > > have

> > > > >> > > > > > in

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > mind computed if the marriage is going to

> be

> > > happy

> > > > >> or

> > > > >> > > its

> > > > >> > > > > not

> > > > >> > > > > > > happy

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > or is there a marriage or multiple

> marriages

> > > (based

> > > > >> on

> > > > >> > > > > > lessons) "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > .....you are right, I am judging the

marital

> > > > >> happiness

> > > > >> > > > > before

> > > > >> > > > > > > going

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > to the WS but , all high points in WS is

> also

> > > > >> > considered

> > > > >> > > > as

> > > > >> > > > > a

> > > > >> > > > > > > factor

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > for marital happiness. Here, mars venus

> > > together in

> > > > >> > 12th

> > > > >> > > > > doesnt

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > promise marital happiness but as my doubt

> was

> > > 1st

> > > > >> lord

> > > > >> > > and

> > > > >> > > > > 7th

> > > > >> > > > > > > lord

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > in conjunction is good but in this case

> they

> > are

> > > > >> mars

> > > > >> > > and

> > > > >> > > > > venus

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > which us not considered good, so what do

we

> do?

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > LoA is in 11th bouse with 5 bindus can be

> > > > > considered

> > > > >> > > good.

> > > > >> > > > No

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > multiple marriage as i can see.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) If its a happy marriage then first

> strong

> > > > >> > > > significator,

> > > > >> > > > > > LoD

> > > > >> > > > > > > or

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > LoE

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > can give marriage.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ...I dont see a very happy marriage.

Please

> > > clarify

> > > > >> > more

> > > > >> > > > if

> > > > >> > > > > I

> > > > >> > > > > > am

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > right or wrong.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Carefully study the effects of 6th

> lord

> > for

> > > > >> > > marriage

> > > > >> > > > as

> > > > >> > > > > > its

> > > > >> > > > > > > a)

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > 6th

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > lord and also b) 12th from B=7.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ......6th lord is in 12th. during its

> > subperiod

> > > the

> > > > >> > > > > qualities

> > > > >> > > > > > of

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > this house will be enhanced as it is in

> 12th.

> > > its

> > > > >> the

> > > > >> > > > karak

> > > > >> > > > > as

> > > > >> > > > > > > well

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > with Mars in 12th. what else?

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5) " Venus here is 6th and 1st lord. Its

> in

> > > House

> > > > > E

> > > > >> > and

> > > > >> > > > its

> > > > >> > > > > > with

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ma and Sun. Sun is LoD. So both LoD and

LoE

> are

> > > > > with

> > > > >> > 6th

> > > > >> > > > > lord.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > AGain

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > as per lessons 6th lord in House D or E

> > reduces

> > > the

> > > > >> > > > > happiness

> > > > >> > > > > > of

> > > > >> > > > > > > the

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > house and its worst if its with more

> points.

> > > Here

> > > > >> > Venus

> > > > >> > > is

> > > > >> > > > > > with 3

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > bindus so effective quantum is lesser. "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ....point 4 is explained by you in this

> step.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Can you take it from here.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > so there is not much delay by saturn or

> > > > > jupiter...if

> > > > >> I

> > > > >> > > am

> > > > >> > > > > > wrong

> > > > >> > > > > > > tell

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > me and guide me for the happiness of

life.

> So

> > > LoD

> > > > > is

> > > > >> > Sun

> > > > >> > > > > which

> > > > >> > > > > > if

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > gives marriage will be in less points, so

> when

> > > high

> > > > >> > > points

> > > > >> > > > > dasa

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > comes, marriage will suffer. But first

> please

> > > > >> explain

> > > > >> > > the

> > > > >> > > > > > delay,

> > > > >> > > > > > > if

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I a right or not.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > --manoshi

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > <> >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all,

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I amposting the details of this

> chart.

> > > COuld

> > > > >> > you

> > > > >> > > > > please

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > analyse

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > girls marriage date? Father has had

> an

> > > > > attack

> > > > >> > > > > recently

> > > > >> > > > > > and

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > mother

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > is suffering from cancer.

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 20th april 1981

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > time : 7:35 AM

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Observations and doubts:

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > venus and sun 3 degrees apart: venus

> > > > >> > > > characteristics

> > > > >> > > > > > are

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > spoilt

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > (she is a very good singer,

> considering

> > > > >> singing

> > > > >> > a

> > > > >> > > > > > venusian

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > quality)

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

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