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I want to time the marriage and other events of this native (female)

as an exercise. I know pretty much about the`life events of this

person so it will be a good learning experience.

 

date: 19 august 1936

place :calcutta

time 11:45 a.m.

 

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Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder

Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna

3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart

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Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows

obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear

Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00

am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart

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Dear Hussein,

 

It is better not to compare. This is not

correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting

perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and

devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning

KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help mankind then

please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep.

 

These systems cannot be understood

overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with

its own parameters. Please do not ask to change this or that, as everything

that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS.

 

So please use the system with all the

parameters as taught.

 

In so many of your past mails you have

brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why

you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are many charts

on our list that have been solved.

 

Once you gain a good understanding of KAS

laws then u can take charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed

them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and

things will not make any sense.

 

We have our laws to find delay and that

too pin point, and its not based on any intuition.

 

If in any VA books you can find or give me

concrete laws on how much delay or how to compute delay for marriage then that

will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth

time.

 

Anup has done analysis. As per our laws,

for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been given. Use the

same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not,

then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons.

 

 

My suggestion to you before u start to

play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e

how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS

to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into

that position, it will make more sense to COMPARE the two for yourself.

 

I hope this is clear.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21

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Re:

A chart for study

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup

Thank you for your answer

but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events

based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if

you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that

the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about

this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.

thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Abdee,

 

 

 

 

 

I am getting Lagna 3Cn41.

 

 

There is big difference of time of birth in this chart.

 

 

The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main.

 

 

The native was married after 27yrs,

 

 

then how we can justify the delay?

 

 

 

 

 

Why he didnt married in Vnus antra?

 

 

As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra

 

 

and Rahu represent Saturn here.

 

 

Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses.

 

 

We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their

 

 

respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this.

 

 

 

 

 

Applying more factors also does not reflect any

 

 

indication.

 

 

 

 

 

You can try similarly with Gemini lagna.

 

 

Saturn delay is there.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hossien abdee

<ahahosien > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:

This is the birth data of a male:

13 August 1933

Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)

Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)

Some events:

Marriage

on May 11, 1960

Birth of

the first daughter on 24th May 1962

Mother's

Death in September 1963

Birth of

second Daughter in August 1965

Brother's

death in May 1979

Death of

Father on 24th December 1988

Death of

Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989

Please rectify his birth time if needed.

I want to all group members study this chart .

Thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

 

 

 

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Dear krushnaji,

Interasting chart-male jatak name-AAM

DOB-14th june 1983. timing 5:05 am at poona

His father died around 16th 1988

that is shani mahadasha and moon antra

Here if we mark 4th house (leo) as b

then LOB is ravi

LOA is jupiter and LOC is also jupiter

LOD venus and LOE shani

Now in house D-mercury ,mars and sun are present

with 6-5-4- respectively

Now LOD is venus and is along with moon Can we treat

venus samadharmi to moon and therefore if shani-moon

period is ok?

his father died of a heart attack and moon is placed

7th from father's house (9th)

pl. inform if this logic is in proper direction.

secondaly the 7th worksheet shows ALL RED AND BELOW

12. HENCE HOW SHOULD WE WORKOUT HIS MARRAIGE TIMING OR

THERE WONT BE A MARRIGE--OR SOME DIFFERENT MARRAIGE.

Thirdly his jupiter is in the 7th house- with 6 point

aspecting 11th,1st and 3rd house with minus 6 points.

he doesnot have any sister/brothers-Elder or younger.

his mother remarried around 22nd july 1991--with a

person having three daugher.whether the new father

will adopt the boy officialy and give some property

etc.

Kindly advise- more when we meet-with regards

Deepak

 

 

 

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Dear Hossien,

 

Just to show the consistency in the Laws

of KAS and I hope you will be able to grasp the mail of Anup and the depth of

KAS, I took one chart from KN Rao’s list of his Guruji. He gave the

chart in one post.

 

Here is the chart of KR Rao’s

Guruji, Shri Yogi Bhaskaranandji.

 

http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=62

 

 

Data given

 

1st December 1913

16:25:48 (This seems to have been

corrected otherwise, I do not think that anyone measures the time in seconds)

23N2

72E37

 

You should get the following degrees with

the following ayanamsa.

 

 

 

 

KAY:

 

 

21:45:10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

 

 

Degrees

 

 

Nakshatra

 

 

Ld

 

 

Nav

 

 

Dec

 

 

Speed

 

 

 

 

As

 

 

24 Ar 2

 

 

Bharani

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sc

 

 

- - - -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

16 Sc 54

 

 

Jyestha

 

 

Me

 

 

Sg

 

 

73%

 

 

100%

 

 

 

 

Mo

 

 

29 Sg 46

 

 

U.Asadha

 

 

Su

 

 

Sg

 

 

65%

 

 

99%

 

 

 

 

MaR

 

 

2 Cn 40

 

 

Punarvasu

 

 

Ju

 

 

Cn

 

 

457%

 

 

-12%

 

 

 

 

MeR

 

 

1 Sc 2

 

 

Visakha

 

 

Ju

 

 

Cn

 

 

126%

 

 

-23%

 

 

 

 

Ju

 

 

26 Sg 40

 

 

U.Asadha

 

 

Su

 

 

Sg

 

 

55%

 

 

247%

 

 

 

 

Ve

 

 

29 Li 34

 

 

Visakha

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ge

 

 

30%

 

 

127%

 

 

 

 

SaR

 

 

23 Ta 24

 

 

Mrigashira

 

 

Ma

 

 

Le

 

 

140%

 

 

-244%

 

 

 

 

Ra

 

 

28 Aq 16

 

 

P.Bhadrapada

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ge

 

 

100%

 

 

100%

 

 

 

 

Ke

 

 

28 Le 16

 

 

U.Phalguni

 

 

Su

 

 

Sg

 

 

100%

 

 

100%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MF

 

 

1.2

 

 

1

 

 

1

 

 

1

 

 

1.4

 

 

1.4

 

 

1.2

 

 

 

 

Hse

 

 

SAV

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

28

 

 

11

 

 

10

 

 

23

 

 

18

 

 

14

 

 

20

 

 

21

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

30

 

 

18

 

 

15

 

 

24

 

 

7

 

 

12

 

 

25

 

 

23

 

 

 

 

3

 

 

24

 

 

11

 

 

13

 

 

40

 

 

14

 

 

19

 

 

19

 

 

10

 

 

 

 

4

 

 

30

 

 

11

 

 

10

 

 

33

 

 

15

 

 

21

 

 

21

 

 

10

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

31

 

 

12

 

 

12

 

 

23

 

 

11

 

 

13

 

 

26

 

 

18

 

 

 

 

6

 

 

37

 

 

13

 

 

14

 

 

34

 

 

19

 

 

15

 

 

20

 

 

22

 

 

 

 

7

 

 

29

 

 

20

 

 

16

 

 

37

 

 

11

 

 

19

 

 

18

 

 

12

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

22

 

 

15

 

 

13

 

 

24

 

 

12

 

 

10

 

 

19

 

 

10

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

20

 

 

10

 

 

10

 

 

21

 

 

17

 

 

16

 

 

27

 

 

15

 

 

 

 

10

 

 

29

 

 

20

 

 

12

 

 

33

 

 

21

 

 

14

 

 

24

 

 

14

 

 

 

 

11

 

 

30

 

 

13

 

 

22

 

 

35

 

 

15

 

 

15

 

 

20

 

 

14

 

 

 

 

12

 

 

27

 

 

18

 

 

10

 

 

29

 

 

17

 

 

20

 

 

21

 

 

10

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now just use the laws that are taught in

the lesson.

 

Natural Death in the MD of 3rd lord,

the antra of LoD or LoE and PDF of strongest power planet of LoD or LoE.

 

Analysis of event of death – which happened on 12th April

1991

 

Aries is

the lagna so both FK and NK is Mercury. Mercury does not aspect House A,

B or C, So me is qualified to give death.

 

So we

can say Mercury can give death in his MD.

 

Now, in Mercury Md,

the first antra was that of Me who has 12 points in 8th house so it

can’t give death.

 

Next is

Ketu. Ketu is SD to LoD and is in House D i.e. 5th house so as

per our KAS laws, LoD and LoE are very eager and Ra and Ke in House D or E

become very eager to give the result.

 

So we

can fix the antra to be that of Ketu.

 

So MD of

Mercury and antra of Ketu.

 

Next is

the PDF.

 

On 12th

April 1991 the pdf was that of Ma and Ketu. Ma is LoE and Ketu is in

House D so the pdf is very eager to give the timing.

 

 

 

Hossien, the reason I have given this

chart, is to show the consistency of our laws. We are using the same

laws.

 

Now if birth time is right then ALL events

must fall in line. Yes there might be some events that might not be

visible clearly, but say if 90% of the events are in line so it means that we

are close to the birth time.

 

I have solved this chart, using Krushna’s

ayanamsa and using the LAWS of KAS which are clear cut and easily visible with

the worksheet.

 

That is the beauty of KAS.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21

AM

 

Re:

A chart for study

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup

Thank you for your answer

but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events

based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if

you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that

the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about

this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.

thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Abdee,

 

 

 

 

 

I am getting Lagna 3Cn41.

 

 

There is big difference of time of birth in this chart.

 

 

The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main.

 

 

The native was married after 27yrs,

 

 

then how we can justify the delay?

 

 

 

 

 

Why he didnt married in Vnus antra?

 

 

As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra

 

 

and Rahu represent Saturn here.

 

 

Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses.

 

 

We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their

 

 

respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this.

 

 

 

 

 

Applying more factors also does not reflect any

 

 

indication.

 

 

 

 

 

You can try similarly with Gemini lagna.

 

 

Saturn delay is there.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hossien abdee

<ahahosien > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:

This is the birth data of a male:

13 August 1933

Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)

Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)

Some events:

Marriage

on May 11, 1960

Birth of

the first daughter on 24th May 1962

Mother's

Death in September 1963

Birth of

second Daughter in August 1965

Brother's

death in May 1979

Death of

Father on 24th December 1988

Death of

Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989

Please rectify his birth time if needed.

I want to all group members study this chart .

Thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

 

 

 

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Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

Saturday March 29, 2008

12:16 PM

 

RE:

A chart for study

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Hossien,

 

Just to show the consistency in the Laws of KAS and I hope you will

be able to grasp the mail of Anup and the depth of KAS, I took one chart from

KN Rao’s list of his Guruji. He gave the chart in one post.

 

Here is the chart of KR Rao’s Guruji, Shri Yogi

Bhaskaranandji.

 

http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=62

 

 

Data given

 

1st December 1913

16:25:48 (This seems to have been corrected otherwise, I do not

think that anyone measures the time in seconds)

23N2

72E37

 

You should get the following degrees with the following ayanamsa.

REFER

TO THE CHART COORDINATES AND POINTS IN PREVIOUS MAIL

 

 

Now just use the laws that are taught in the lesson.

 

Natural Death in the MD of 3rd lord, the antra of LoD or

LoE and PDF of strongest power planet of LoD or LoE.

 

Analysis of event of

death – which happened on 12th April 1991

 

Aries is the lagna so both FK and NK is

Mercury. Mercury does not aspect House A, B or C, So me is qualified to

give death.

 

So we can say Mercury can give death in his MD.

 

Now, in Mercury Md,

the first antra was that of Me who has 12 points in 8th house so it

can’t give death.

 

Next is Ketu. Ketu is SD to LoD and is in

House D i.e. 5th house so as per our KAS laws, LoD and LoE are very

eager and Ra and Ke in House D or E become very eager to give the result.

 

So we can fix the antra to be that of Ketu.

 

So MD of Mercury and antra of Ketu.

 

Next is the PDF.

 

On 12th April 1991 the pdf was that of

Ma and Ketu. Ma is LoE and Ketu is in House D so the pdf is very eager to

give the timing.

 

 

 

Hossien, the reason I have given this chart, is to show the

consistency of our laws. We are using the same laws.

 

Now if birth time is right then ALL events must fall in line.

Yes there might be some events that might not be visible clearly, but say if

90% of the events are in line so it means that we are close to the birth

time.

 

I have solved this chart, using Krushna’s ayanamsa and using

the LAWS of KAS which are clear cut and easily visible with the worksheet.

 

That is the beauty of KAS.

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21

AM

 

Re:

A chart for study

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup

Thank you for your answer

but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events

based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if

you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that

the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about

this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.

thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Abdee,

 

 

 

 

 

I am getting Lagna

3Cn41.

 

 

There is big

difference of time of birth in this chart.

 

 

The marriage

happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main.

 

 

The native was

married after 27yrs,

 

 

then how we can

justify the delay?

 

 

 

 

 

Why he didnt

married in Vnus antra?

 

 

As per given

TOB,he was married in Rahu antra

 

 

and Rahu represent

Saturn here.

 

 

Saturn is weak in

7th & most the houses.

 

 

We see if from

lagna,Moon and Sun and their

 

 

respective 7th

lords ratios contradicts this.

 

 

 

 

 

Applying more

factors also does not reflect any

 

 

indication.

 

 

 

 

 

You can try

similarly with Gemini lagna.

 

 

Saturn delay is

there.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hossien abdee

<ahahosien > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash,Anup and

other list members:

This is the birth

data of a male:

13 August 1933

Birth time:4:00

am(5:30 east of GMT)

Place: New

Dehli(77E12, 28N36)

Some events:

Marriage on May 11, 1960

Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962

Mother's Death in September 1963

Birth of second Daughter in August 1965

Brother's death in May 1979

Death of Father on 24th December 1988

Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989

Please rectify his

birth time if needed.

I want to all

group members study this chart .

Thanks

Hussein Abdee

 

 

 

 

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Dear AshThank u very much for your good answeri don't want to compare 2 systems with each other and say that which one is better, i only want find some excact example.for example if a person realy married in an specific time, then it means that actually he(she) married in this time, then every system should be able to find the correct time.i love KAS systems very very much.but i think we don't able to analyze and predict all events which took place in the person's life.if we couide do this it means that the human haven't freedom in his(her) life.i repeat i love KAS very muchthank you for your answerHussein Abdee"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, It is better not to compare. This is not correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help

mankind then please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep. These systems cannot be understood overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with its own parameters. Please do not ask to change this or that, as everything that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS. So please

use the system with all the parameters as taught. In so many of your past mails you have brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are many charts on our list that have been solved. Once you gain a good understanding of KAS laws then u can take

charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and things will not make any sense. We have our laws to find delay and that too pin point, and its not based on any intuition. If in any VA books you can find or give me concrete laws on how much delay or how

to compute delay for marriage then that will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth time. Anup has done analysis. As per our laws, for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been given. Use the same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not, then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons. My suggestion to you before u start to play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into that position, it will make more sense to COMPARE the two for yourself. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM

Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee

"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The

marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t

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Dear AshThank you very much for this good examplebest wishesHussein Abdee"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, It is better not to compare. This is not correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help mankind then please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep. These systems cannot be understood overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with its own parameters. Please do not ask to change

this or that, as everything that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS. So please use the system with all the parameters as taught. In so many of your past mails you have brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are

many charts on our list that have been solved. Once you gain a good understanding of KAS laws then u can take charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and things will not make any sense. We have our laws to find delay and that too pin point, and its not

based on any intuition. If in any VA books you can find or give me concrete laws on how much delay or how to compute delay for marriage then that will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth time. Anup has done analysis. As per our laws, for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been

given. Use the same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not, then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons. My suggestion to you before u start to play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into that position, it will make more sense to

COMPARE the two for yourself. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer

but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee "Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective

7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is

there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t

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Dear AnupThank you very much for your good answerplease give me the number of messages in our group which in them some example chart are available.Thank youbest wishesHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer

planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the

chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Special deal for users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now

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Dear Abdee, Just start from message number 1 in archives and you will be able to learn KAS more deeply with many charts as you required. Krushnaji himself guided every member with his mails while answering their respective queries. Likewise,you can see how much all our seniors were involoved while learning KAS. Ash is our dedicated teacher and you can learn a lot from his past mails and even replying to your latest doubts. I will suggest to have faith and confidence in KAS,gradually you will be able to learn more and more but slowly. Dive in this ocean and then your queries will be reflecting this change having an essence of KAS and its rules. Otherwise,mixing two systems will lead you nowhere

except losing confidence in either of these. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear AnupThank you very much for your good answerplease give me the number of messages in our group which in them some example chart are

available.Thank youbest wishesHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August

1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing.

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