a chart for study---another thought--Krushna ji

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thanx Krushna ji for the guidance.

 

regards

--Manoshi

 

 

, Jugal Kalani

<str_jkmw@s...> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi,

> As a general rule, when delay period is over,

any

> planet having more then 12 points in WS can give the result. again

also see

> the LOD and LOE from Su and Mo. means considering Su as Lagna and

Mo as

> lagna. If any planet after delay period overs, is LOD from Su or

Mo, can

> give the result.

> krushna

>

> -

> " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa>

>

> Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:30 AM

> Re: a chart for study---another

> thought--Ash

>

>

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > I understand that the delay period is over on the 25th of

> > January...but shouldnt the marriage take place in the period of

> > strongest significator? Just an after thought:

> > why is jupiter the strongest significator? well as I feel, may be

> > its not the strongest significator but is capable enough to give

> > marriage. but why? It is not FK, it is having high points but

not

> > the highest, its not the lord of D or E to be eager to give

> > marriage, then what makes it to give marriage? Is there some

> > relation that it is placed in house B? could you please explain a

> > little more?

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > thanx in

advance , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and Krushna ji,

> > >

> > >

> > > Native got married on the 26th of January 1961. Amazing....

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you very much for the answer.

> > > >

> > > > Manoshi did say however that after marriage the native

stayed 3

> > > > months away from her husband which can be in the delay

period or

> > > > delay caused due to Venus as you say for a few months so

after

> > > that

> > > > the native and her husband can start married life.

> > > >

> > > > Its all clear now.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Manoshi for the chart :=)

> > > >

> > > > It was good learning.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , krushna

> > > jugalkalani

> > > > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > Delay due to Zero any planet can not be computed

> > > > exactly in time. period. But it gives delay for no reason.

one

> > > Zero

> > > > may give delay in few months, some times the marriage sattles

> > and

> > > it

> > > > is postponed for any reason. Two More Zero can give

considerable

> > > > delay.

> > > > > krushna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > > > Thank you for your answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here one more question that I was not very clear on was

that

> > in

> > > > this chart Venus has 0 power in 10th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here do we add the delay of Venus? With this calculations

the

> > > > marriage happened after delay of Shani got over. Manoshi has

> > > given

> > > > that marriage of this native happened in January 1961.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now If I add delay of Venus then delay will increase

taking it

> > > > beyond the delay period.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you say a little bit more on the delay due to 0 points

due

> > > to

> > > > Ve and should it be considered? If not what is the reason?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Jugal Kalani <str_jkmw@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear ASh,

> > > > > I have calculated oraly, assuming that

you

> > not

> > > > considered Cap 00 degree entering Sa in Cap, so deducted 2.5

yrs

> > > > from your delay period.

> > > > > so you can find the date when Sa enters Cap. tHERE MASY BE

> > > > DIFFERENCE OF 13 DAYS.

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > krushna

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:50 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: a chart for

study--

> > -

> > > > Ash and others

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > > > I re-read your email.

> > > > >

> > > > > You have mentioned that time start should be at begining of

> > > > Capricorn. I agree.

> > > > >

> > > > > At 22 years and 7 months Saturn is at 14 Sag 30 so still

not

> > at

> > > 0

> > > > deg capricorn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Still Sa has to transit 15 deg 30 degrees more so atleast

over

> > 1

> > > > more year it has to transit to reach Capricorn.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 25th Jan 1961 Sa reaches 0Cp5. So the exact age of the

> > > Native

> > > > at that time is 24 years and 8 month and 24 days.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I am still not getting how did you compute the date to

22

> > > years

> > > > and 7 months when Sagittarius is at 14 Sag 30.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please Guide me.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > > > Pranam.

> > > > >

> > > > > What am I missing.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the calculation I did.

> > > > >

> > > > > 27.5 years is full delay. Saturn has transitted 28 deg 45

in

> > > Sign.

> > > > >

> > > > > So total delay will be 27.5 - 2 years 3 months or so = 25

year

> > 3

> > > > > months Approximately

> > > > >

> > > > > How are you getting 22 years and 7 months ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please guide me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , Jugal

Kalani

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > Delay period calculated by you is having some

> > > > > mistake. It should be 22 yrs 7 months. So marriage can be

> > after

> > > > that

> > > > > period in strong significator. (Sa Aq 28:45) Time should be

> > > > > Capricorn start.

> > > > > > krushna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: a chart for

> > study--

> > > -

> > > > > Ash and others

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi and Ramesh,

> > > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I have explained this umpteen

times

> > > in

> > > > > the past about when Delay of Saturn gets over. Its in the

> > > > > archives. If you can look it up or someone can look it up

for

> > u

> > > it

> > > > > will be good.

> > > > > > Right now we have just been advised to roughly consider

> > delay

> > > > > for each 0 as 10%. Exact computations have not been given

by

> > > > > Krushnaji so far. I beleive the exact delay for 0 might be

> > based

> > > > on

> > > > > Speed of the planet.

> > > > > > For now I am using approximate vaues and for delay that

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > creates one has to be careful. The exact calculations again

> > > > > Krushnaji has not given us maybe in time he will give us

but

> > for

> > > > now

> > > > > again I am using approx values based on my experience for

now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you answer 3 Question for me please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) The 11:45 pm time is it LMT or IST?

> > > > > > 2) How confident are you of this birth time?

> > > > > > 3) What would be called delayed marriage back in

Calcutta in

> > > > > 1936?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the chart,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you said:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Sa is at 28Aq45 so about 25 years 2 or 3 months delay is

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > approximately and say about 5-8% delay due to Venus. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I want to understand this concept...how do you judge the

> > > > > percentage

> > > > > > of delay?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She got married in January 1961.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She was away from her husband for 3 months after

marriage.

> > She

> > > > > has

> > > > > > a good married life (the charts of husband and wife have

> > > > > saturn/rahu-

> > > > > > mars in conjunction, mars-venus do not overlap or are

not in

> > > > > > conjunction but are in 5:9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > Planet Degrees

> > > > > > > As 19 Ta 13

> > > > > > > Su 4 Le 28

> > > > > > > Mo 4 Vi 22

> > > > > > > Ma 13 Cn 57

> > > > > > > Me 27 Le 1

> > > > > > > Ju 22 Sc 37

> > > > > > > Ve 18 Le 37

> > > > > > > SaR 28 Aq 45

> > > > > > > Ra 8 Sg 34

> > > > > > > Ke 8 Ge 34

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is the data I am getting now for the lady born

19th

> > > > > August

> > > > > > 1936

> > > > > > > at calcutta at 23:45.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now here is my attempt.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa is in 10th house from there its aspecting House B

and

> > Ju

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > LoC and Me in 4th house so there is full delay in this

> > chart

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > Sa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ju is in 7th house but its not touching 2nd lord

Mercury

> > so

> > > > > Ju is

> > > > > > > not delay causing in this case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now there is 1 zero in venus due to Venus. This is a

rare

> > > > > > > combination and its given somewhere in lesson that

Venus

> > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > only

> > > > > > > planet that can give a 0 in 10th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna and 7th have 33/23 points in SAV.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna/7th are in 2:12, sun and 7th are in 1:7, Moon and

> > 7th

> > > > > are in

> > > > > > > 4:10, Ma and 7th are 6:8 and Ve and 7th are in 1:7 in

Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Navamsa

> > > > > > > Ve and Sa are in 4:10, Sa and Su are in 2:12, Mo and Sa

> > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 5:9,

> > > > > > > Ju and Me are in 2:12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6th lord is in 4th house with 4 bindus. Here Ve is also

> > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > lord. Ve again is in neecha sign in navamsa. Its in

> > upchaya

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > 6th and in 4th from 1st.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > LoA, LoD are SD to 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3:6:10:11 points from lagna, sun and moon are in zig

zag

> > > > > manner.

> > > > > > > Venus has 0 in 10th house. 10th house also has 27

points

> > in

> > > > > SAV.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12th power in SAV is more than 11th. So more spending

> > trend.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 1:7 in rasi and 4:10 in

> > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now calculating the delay and marriage period.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sa is at 28Aq45 so about 25 years 2 or 3 months delay

is

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > approximately and say about 5-8% delay due to Venus. So

> > when

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > period is over Mercury antra is running in Rahu Md.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Me who is 2nd lord so karak. So Rahu's MD

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Me antra is on at the end of delay period and at that

time

> > > > > Sa is

> > > > > > > transitting the natives 10th house so there maybe

probems

> > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > family around that time and some stress related to

that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury is most powreful significator and its Karak and

> > > > > placed in

> > > > > > > House D with 5 bindus. Yes its SD to Venus so it may

give

> > > > > the

> > > > > > event

> > > > > > > but not full happiness from it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So marriage may take place in Rahu/Me MD and Antra i.e

> > 1964-

> > > > > Feb-10

> > > > > > > to 1966-Aug-29.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoshi, can you give feedback upto here please.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and senior members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Let me first make it clear that I am trying to

analyse

> > > > > this

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > learn and as Ash told me to post charts in the

groups so

> > > > > that it

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > be a learning experience for everyone. I would

request

> > Ash

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > members to guide me through.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lets look at the chart if it has any zeroes: one zero

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is in the tenth house aspecting venus, House

B,

> > > > > House D,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > House E for seventh. So I would consider there is

> > > > > definitely

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > to Saturn but how much? I remember you mentioning

that

> > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > causes

> > > > > > > > full delay when is in 5th house and aspects houses

A, B

> > > > > and C.

> > > > > > But

> > > > > > > > here its not aspecting ABC, but B, D and, E.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ok, now lets check for jupiter: Jupiter is in 7th

with 4

> > > > > points.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > lessons it is mentioned that Jupiter causes delay if

> > > > > jupiter is

> > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > in 7th or aspecting 7th, but will the delay be due to

> > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > less points or with even high points? SO will there

be

> > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > considered in this case?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will try to analyse it further with guidance after

I

> > get

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > doubts

> > > > > > > > cleared and will try to look for the stongest

> > significator

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx

> > > > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I want to time the marriage and other events of

this

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > (female)

> > > > > > > > > as an exercise. I know pretty much about the`life

> > events

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > person so it will be a good learning experience.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > date: 19 august 1936

> > > > > > > > > place :calcutta

> > > > > > > > > time 11:45 a.m.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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