Another chart--timing marriage--Ash/all

September 20, 2005

Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

Planet Degrees

As 10 Cn 5

Su 4 Aq 19

Mo 10 Pi 26

Ma 4 Aq 28

Me 15 Cp 39

Ju 25 Pi 6

Ve 14 Pi 9

Sa 3 Aq 16

Ra 16 Ge 27

Ke 16 Sg 27

To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

House C or LoC is not affected.

SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It should

reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say

that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter

is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not

judging.

Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that (for

females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for the

male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male marriage

too.

Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

marriage should occur early.

I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to

saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay BUT

father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the girl

at the age of 25.

I was trying to check the job periods.

He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to

mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for

6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should

give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look at

the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and

mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by

relation to mercury....not sure about this.

I think I should wait for guidance...

--Manoshi

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell

how

> you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

case.

> I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

>

> --Manoshi

>

> , ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls tell

me

> whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might

have

> taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector i.e.

> sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help

me.

> > Thanks and best regard.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi,

> > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may

> bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> overlooked.

> >

> > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji does

> or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts

> (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many

> things will get cleared.

> >

> > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont

> worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

better

> to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find out

> where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> >

> > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry

about

> other things.

> >

> > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have posted

I

> am eager to learn from this one too.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > some events to verify the chart:

> >

> > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for

> > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed again

> in

> > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.

That

> > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003, bought

a

> > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> >

> > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I couldnt

> do

> > justice to the system.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events

so

> > that

> > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the planets.

> > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are

> > accurate.

> > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some

> cases

> > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if its

> 9th

> > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear

if

> > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , Ash

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > considred

> > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

marriage

> > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and Ash

> > always

> > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be because

we

> > > tend

> > > > to

> > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > >

> > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Ash/Manoshi/All

Manoshi, thanks for the feed back. I may be wrong somewhere. However I may try once more. But as you have declared it late marriage then it is after the AD of Venus.This I will discuss in the following lines. Now at present with respect to this chart which I cast Asc is showing 8 Cn 19, I do not understand why there is a diff.The longitudes of other planets are exactly same. This may happen due to change in the default data entry according to the place to place.

In this chart the planet Sa is occupying 8th house and from there he is aspecting house A and conjuct LoA. Sa is himself LoB.There is no relationship with house C and its lord Venus.However there is delay due to Sa because it is associated with house A and B.

Lagnesh and ninth lord is together in 9th house. They are in 5:9 relationship in navamsa. Can this relationship be considered ? I am in doubt and do not know.In navamsa the relationship between lagnesh and 9th lord is 1:7.

In navamsa Sa is occupying house A and aspecting house B. In addition Sa is conjuct with the LoC. Therefore houses A , B and C all are in the influence of Sa in D9. I consider it full delay.Jup aspects Sa in navamsa so there is moderate in the delay

According to the teachings of S/Shri Ash ji when Sa reaches 0 deg Cp this delay is over. Sa enters Cp sometime in the month of Dec 1991.So marriage may take place after Dec 1991. In my earlier message I moderated the delay caused by the aspect of Jup on Saturn but this reading came wrong.

Second step was followed the running MD/AD during this period By this time AD of Sun in Ketu MD is over on 05-Dec-1991. Next AD of Moon starts from Dec/91 to Jul/92. Moon is SD of Venus LoD. Moon occupies 9th house and he is lagnesh too. Will Moon be strong enough to cause the event . Let us examine in SAV WS.Moon is contributing least bindus in the worksheet against 7th house therefore he is unable to give the result. Next AD of Mars follows. Mars is the sixth in rank with 13 points.Mars AD is from Jul/92 to Dec/92. In Rashi Mars is in 8th house with Sa and in the house of Saturn. Saturn is strong here compared to Mars. I therefore reject his dasha. Next Rahu dasha follows for the period from Dec/92 to Dec/93.

Rahu is in the house of E and SD of Me who has the highest 20 points in the worksheet. I therefore feel Ra is competent to give the result. Now I have to narrow down the timings. Since this is the case of delay, event might have taken place in the third sector which runs from 13-Aug-93 to 20 Dec 93.

We have to narrow down the event further with the help of PDF.

Now Manoshi pls. tell me did marriage take place on 26/27 Aug 93. Am I write now ? If not this time then I can never be. I do not know the use of PDF. As it gives combination of significators. As I understand the significator of marriage in this chart is Sun and Natural karaka Venus. When I look upon these significators then the time is between 31 Aug to 12 Sep. On the other hand I have choosen the date between 17 Aug to 30 Aug whose significator is Sun and Ketu.

It has become too long so I could do this much now.

Please feed me back. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...Planet Degrees As 10 Cn 5 Su 4 Aq 19 Mo 10 Pi 26 Ma 4 Aq 28 Me 15 Cp 39

Ju 25 Pi 6 Ve 14 Pi 9 Sa 3 Aq 16 Ra 16 Ge 27 Ke 16 Sg 27 To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars. Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.House C or LoC is not affected.SO NO DELAY DUE TO

SATURN...is that right?Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It should reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not judging.Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that (for females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for the male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male marriage too.Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings, marriage should occur early.I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay BUT father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to

the girl at the age of 25.I was trying to check the job periods. He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look at the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by relation to mercury....not sure about this.I think I should wait for guidance...--Manoshi , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:>

Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell how > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this case. > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.> > --Manoshi> > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,> > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls tell me > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might have > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector i.e. > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help me.> > Thanks and best regard.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Manoshi,> > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or > overlooked.> > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji does > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many > things will get cleared.> > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its better > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find out > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the previous > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are stuck > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.> > > > I shall look forward

to your attempt and please do not worry about > other things. > > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have posted I > am eager to learn from this one too.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> > some events to verify the chart:> > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed again > in > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump. That > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003, bought a > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter. > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I couldnt > do > > justice to

the system.> > > > --Manoshi> > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > Dear Manoshi,> > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events so > > that > > > it will help in chart verifications. > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the planets.> > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are > > accurate.> > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some > cases > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if its > 9th > > > > August or 8th September etc.

Such things can be made clear if > > > > degree of planets are given.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you > > considred > > > > along with your mail.> > > > > It will help others learn.> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:> > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time marriage > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and Ash > > always > > > >

> tells to take the charts of unknown people may be because we > > > tend > > > > to > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.> > > > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964> > > > > time: 15:40> > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)> > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Hello Manoshi

This is my opinion.

The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.

In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can cause delay.

I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay years.

In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That make Sun antar

dasha.

Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read it cannot

give results.

After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points for H7.

After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for mercury.

Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that Jupiter as SD of

Mercury will give the result.

Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.

regards,

Amitabh.

-

" Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM

Re: Another chart--timing

marriage--Ash/all

> Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

>

> Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 10 Cn 5

> Su 4 Aq 19

> Mo 10 Pi 26

> Ma 4 Aq 28

> Me 15 Cp 39

> Ju 25 Pi 6

> Ve 14 Pi 9

> Sa 3 Aq 16

> Ra 16 Ge 27

> Ke 16 Sg 27

>

> To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

>

> Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> House C or LoC is not affected.

>

> SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

>

> Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It should

> reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say

> that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter

> is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not

> judging.

> Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that (for

> females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for the

> male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male marriage

> too.

>

> Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> marriage should occur early.

>

> I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to

> saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay BUT

> father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

> pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the girl

> at the age of 25.

>

> I was trying to check the job periods.

>

> He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to

> mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

>

> his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for

> 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should

> give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look at

> the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

> events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and

> mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by

> relation to mercury....not sure about this.

>

> I think I should wait for guidance...

>

> --Manoshi

, " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell

> how

> > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

> case.

> > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls tell

> me

> > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might

> have

> > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector i.e.

> > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help

> me.

> > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may

> > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> > overlooked.

> > >

> > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji does

> > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts

> > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many

> > things will get cleared.

> > >

> > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont

> > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

> better

> > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find out

> > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> previous

> > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are stuck

> > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > >

> > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry

> about

> > other things.

> > >

> > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have posted

> I

> > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > some events to verify the chart:

> > >

> > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for

> > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed again

> > in

> > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.

> That

> > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003, bought

> a

> > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > >

> > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I couldnt

> > do

> > > justice to the system.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events

> so

> > > that

> > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the planets.

> > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are

> > > accurate.

> > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some

> > cases

> > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if its

> > 9th

> > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear

> if

> > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > > considred

> > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> marriage

> > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and Ash

> > > always

> > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be because

> we

> > > > tend

> > > > > to

> > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Manoshi,

How are you getting Ve conjoined Sa in Navamsa.

I am getting Ve Conjoined Mars and Sun in navamsa and in Rasi too ?

I am getting Sa in libra navamsa and Ve in Scorpio.

If Sa and Ve are conjoined then there would be full delay as Sa is

LoB, Ve is LoC and Sa aspects House A.

I agree with all other points but I am not getting any delay in this

chart.

No delay due to Sa as Sa is not touching Venus who is LoC.

Lagna and 9th lords (of Rasi) are in 5:9 in navamsa indicating

blessings of father and guru.

Ve is with Mars so more chances of affairs. Ma, Sa and Me are

having some relation i.e. 5th, 7th and 12th lords. Ma and Sa are

conjoined Rasi and Navamsa and Me is in 7th aspect in Navamsa. So

again chances of love marriage.

However I am not getting any major delays.

I had timed the marriage in Mercury MD and Ju AD as an early

marriage.

Now w.r.t job and promotions etc. Some things are not matching such

as Venus antra giving good authority but it has less points for 10th

house.

In any case, I hope to learn from this exercise as all signs of

early marriage are there in this chart.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

>

> Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 10 Cn 5

> Su 4 Aq 19

> Mo 10 Pi 26

> Ma 4 Aq 28

> Me 15 Cp 39

> Ju 25 Pi 6

> Ve 14 Pi 9

> Sa 3 Aq 16

> Ra 16 Ge 27

> Ke 16 Sg 27

>

> To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

>

> Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> House C or LoC is not affected.

>

> SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

>

> Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

should

> reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say

> that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter

> is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not

> judging.

> Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that

(for

> females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for

the

> male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

marriage

> too.

>

> Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> marriage should occur early.

>

> I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to

> saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay

BUT

> father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

> pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the

girl

> at the age of 25.

>

> I was trying to check the job periods.

>

> He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to

> mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

>

> his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for

> 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should

> give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look

at

> the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

> events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and

> mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by

> relation to mercury....not sure about this.

>

> I think I should wait for guidance...

>

> --Manoshi

, " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell

> how

> > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

> case.

> > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls

tell

> me

> > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might

> have

> > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector

i.e.

> > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help

> me.

> > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may

> > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> > overlooked.

> > >

> > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji

does

> > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts

> > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many

> > things will get cleared.

> > >

> > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont

> > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

> better

> > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find

out

> > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> previous

> > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are

stuck

> > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > >

> > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry

> about

> > other things.

> > >

> > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have

posted

> I

> > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > some events to verify the chart:

> > >

> > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for

> > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed

again

> > in

> > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.

> That

> > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

bought

> a

> > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > >

> > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

couldnt

> > do

> > > justice to the system.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events

> so

> > > that

> > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

planets.

> > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are

> > > accurate.

> > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some

> > cases

> > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if

its

> > 9th

> > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear

> if

> > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > > considred

> > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> marriage

> > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and

Ash

> > > always

> > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

because

> we

> > > > tend

> > > > > to

> > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Manoshi,

How are u getting Ju SD to Me?

Planets DO NOT become SD to the nakshtra lord.

Its given in the lesson. Please read it carefully.

Its only for Ra and Ke that they become SD to Sign lord and nakshtra

lord.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

>

> Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 10 Cn 5

> Su 4 Aq 19

> Mo 10 Pi 26

> Ma 4 Aq 28

> Me 15 Cp 39

> Ju 25 Pi 6

> Ve 14 Pi 9

> Sa 3 Aq 16

> Ra 16 Ge 27

> Ke 16 Sg 27

>

> To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

>

> Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> House C or LoC is not affected.

>

> SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

>

> Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

should

> reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say

> that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter

> is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not

> judging.

> Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that

(for

> females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for

the

> male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

marriage

> too.

>

> Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> marriage should occur early.

>

> I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to

> saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay

BUT

> father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

> pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the

girl

> at the age of 25.

>

> I was trying to check the job periods.

>

> He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to

> mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

>

> his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for

> 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should

> give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look

at

> the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

> events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and

> mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by

> relation to mercury....not sure about this.

>

> I think I should wait for guidance...

>

> --Manoshi

, " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell

> how

> > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

> case.

> > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls

tell

> me

> > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might

> have

> > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector

i.e.

> > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help

> me.

> > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may

> > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> > overlooked.

> > >

> > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji

does

> > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts

> > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many

> > things will get cleared.

> > >

> > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont

> > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

> better

> > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find

out

> > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> previous

> > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are

stuck

> > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > >

> > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry

> about

> > other things.

> > >

> > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have

posted

> I

> > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > some events to verify the chart:

> > >

> > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for

> > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed

again

> > in

> > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.

> That

> > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

bought

> a

> > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > >

> > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

couldnt

> > do

> > > justice to the system.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events

> so

> > > that

> > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

planets.

> > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are

> > > accurate.

> > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some

> > cases

> > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if

its

> > 9th

> > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear

> if

> > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > > considred

> > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> marriage

> > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and

Ash

> > > always

> > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

because

> we

> > > > tend

> > > > > to

> > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Ash

Doesnt Saturn aspecting House A give a delay?

Doesnt Saturn being LoB give a delay?

Doesnt Saturn aspecting 7th house in Navamsa give a delay?

regards,

Amitabh.

-

" ashsam73 " <ashsam73

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:53 PM

Re: Another chart--timing

marriage--Ash/all

> Dear Manoshi,

>

> How are you getting Ve conjoined Sa in Navamsa.

>

> I am getting Ve Conjoined Mars and Sun in navamsa and in Rasi too ?

>

> I am getting Sa in libra navamsa and Ve in Scorpio.

>

> If Sa and Ve are conjoined then there would be full delay as Sa is

> LoB, Ve is LoC and Sa aspects House A.

>

> I agree with all other points but I am not getting any delay in this

> chart.

>

> No delay due to Sa as Sa is not touching Venus who is LoC.

>

> Lagna and 9th lords (of Rasi) are in 5:9 in navamsa indicating

> blessings of father and guru.

>

> Ve is with Mars so more chances of affairs. Ma, Sa and Me are

> having some relation i.e. 5th, 7th and 12th lords. Ma and Sa are

> conjoined Rasi and Navamsa and Me is in 7th aspect in Navamsa. So

> again chances of love marriage.

>

> However I am not getting any major delays.

>

> I had timed the marriage in Mercury MD and Ju AD as an early

> marriage.

>

> Now w.r.t job and promotions etc. Some things are not matching such

> as Venus antra giving good authority but it has less points for 10th

> house.

>

> In any case, I hope to learn from this exercise as all signs of

> early marriage are there in this chart.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

> >

> > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

> >

> > Planet Degrees

> > As 10 Cn 5

> > Su 4 Aq 19

> > Mo 10 Pi 26

> > Ma 4 Aq 28

> > Me 15 Cp 39

> > Ju 25 Pi 6

> > Ve 14 Pi 9

> > Sa 3 Aq 16

> > Ra 16 Ge 27

> > Ke 16 Sg 27

> >

> > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

> >

> > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> > House C or LoC is not affected.

> >

> > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

> should

> > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say

> > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter

> > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not

> > judging.

> > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that

> (for

> > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for

> the

> > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

> marriage

> > too.

> >

> > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> > marriage should occur early.

> >

> > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to

> > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay

> BUT

> > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

> > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the

> girl

> > at the age of 25.

> >

> > I was trying to check the job periods.

> >

> > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to

> > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

> >

> > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for

> > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should

> > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look

> at

> > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

> > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and

> > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by

> > relation to mercury....not sure about this.

> >

> > I think I should wait for guidance...

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell

> > how

> > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

> > case.

> > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , ramesh mishra

> > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls

> tell

> > me

> > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might

> > have

> > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector

> i.e.

> > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help

> > me.

> > > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may

> > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> > > overlooked.

> > > >

> > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji

> does

> > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts

> > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many

> > > things will get cleared.

> > > >

> > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont

> > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

> > better

> > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find

> out

> > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> > previous

> > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are

> stuck

> > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > > >

> > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry

> > about

> > > other things.

> > > >

> > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have

> posted

> > I

> > > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > some events to verify the chart:

> > > >

> > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for

> > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed

> again

> > > in

> > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.

> > That

> > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

> bought

> > a

> > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > > >

> > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

> couldnt

> > > do

> > > > justice to the system.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events

> > so

> > > > that

> > > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

> planets.

> > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are

> > > > accurate.

> > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some

> > > cases

> > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if

> its

> > > 9th

> > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear

> > if

> > > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > > > considred

> > > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> > marriage

> > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and

> Ash

> > > > always

> > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

> because

> > we

> > > > > tend

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Amitabh,

Saturn aspecting House A, B, C or their lords gives full delay but

all 3.

We do not check aspect of Sa on house in navamsa, however we do

check the aspect of Sa on the lords of A, B and C of rasi.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Amitabh Choudhury "

<amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> Dear Ash

>

> Doesnt Saturn aspecting House A give a delay?

> Doesnt Saturn being LoB give a delay?

> Doesnt Saturn aspecting 7th house in Navamsa give a delay?

>

> regards,

> Amitabh.

>

> -

> " ashsam73 " <ashsam73>

>

> Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:53 PM

> Re: Another chart--timing

> marriage--Ash/all

>

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > How are you getting Ve conjoined Sa in Navamsa.

> >

> > I am getting Ve Conjoined Mars and Sun in navamsa and in Rasi

too ?

> >

> > I am getting Sa in libra navamsa and Ve in Scorpio.

> >

> > If Sa and Ve are conjoined then there would be full delay as Sa

is

> > LoB, Ve is LoC and Sa aspects House A.

> >

> > I agree with all other points but I am not getting any delay in

this

> > chart.

> >

> > No delay due to Sa as Sa is not touching Venus who is LoC.

> >

> > Lagna and 9th lords (of Rasi) are in 5:9 in navamsa indicating

> > blessings of father and guru.

> >

> > Ve is with Mars so more chances of affairs. Ma, Sa and Me are

> > having some relation i.e. 5th, 7th and 12th lords. Ma and Sa are

> > conjoined Rasi and Navamsa and Me is in 7th aspect in Navamsa.

So

> > again chances of love marriage.

> >

> > However I am not getting any major delays.

> >

> > I had timed the marriage in Mercury MD and Ju AD as an early

> > marriage.

> >

> > Now w.r.t job and promotions etc. Some things are not matching

such

> > as Venus antra giving good authority but it has less points for

10th

> > house.

> >

> > In any case, I hope to learn from this exercise as all signs of

> > early marriage are there in this chart.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

> > >

> > > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

> > >

> > > Planet Degrees

> > > As 10 Cn 5

> > > Su 4 Aq 19

> > > Mo 10 Pi 26

> > > Ma 4 Aq 28

> > > Me 15 Cp 39

> > > Ju 25 Pi 6

> > > Ve 14 Pi 9

> > > Sa 3 Aq 16

> > > Ra 16 Ge 27

> > > Ke 16 Sg 27

> > >

> > > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

> > >

> > > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> > > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> > > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> > > House C or LoC is not affected.

> > >

> > > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

> > should

> > > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons

say

> > > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because

jupiter

> > > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am

not

> > > judging.

> > > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that

> > (for

> > > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for

> > the

> > > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

> > marriage

> > > too.

> > >

> > > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> > > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> > > marriage should occur early.

> > >

> > > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due

to

> > > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay

> > BUT

> > > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place

> > > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the

> > girl

> > > at the age of 25.

> > >

> > > I was trying to check the job periods.

> > >

> > > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is

SD to

> > > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

> > >

> > > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE

for

> > > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus

should

> > > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to

look

> > at

> > > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify

> > > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa

and

> > > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving

authority by

> > > relation to mercury....not sure about this.

> > >

> > > I think I should wait for guidance...

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please

tell

> > > how

> > > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this

> > > case.

> > > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , ramesh

mishra

> > > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls

> > tell

> > > me

> > > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart

might

> > > have

> > > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector

> > i.e.

> > > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may

help

> > > me.

> > > > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many

> > > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and

may

> > > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or

> > > > overlooked.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji

> > does

> > > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many

charts

> > > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice

many

> > > > things will get cleared.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and

dont

> > > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its

> > > better

> > > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then

find

> > out

> > > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> > > previous

> > > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are

> > stuck

> > > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not

worry

> > > about

> > > > other things.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have

> > posted

> > > I

> > > > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > some events to verify the chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job

for

> > > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed

> > again

> > > > in

> > > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big

jump.

> > > That

> > > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

> > bought

> > > a

> > > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

> > couldnt

> > > > do

> > > > > justice to the system.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important

events

> > > so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

> > planets.

> > > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions

are

> > > > > accurate.

> > > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in

some

> > > > cases

> > > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if

> > its

> > > > 9th

> > > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made

clear

> > > if

> > > > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you

> > > > > considred

> > > > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> > > marriage

> > > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and

> > Ash

> > > > > always

> > > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

> > because

> > > we

> > > > > > tend

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the

marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth

certificate)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

September 21, 2005

Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,

Namaskar,

Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.

As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the 8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house seven in SAV WS.

So can you please tell the forum in connection with your approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your approach.

Thanks and warm regards.

Ramesh MishraAmitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote:

Hello ManoshiThis is my opinion.The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can cause delay.I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay years.In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That make Sun antardasha.Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read it cannotgive results.After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points for H7.After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for mercury.Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that Jupiter as SD ofMercury will give the result.Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.regards,Amitabh.-"Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapaTo:

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM Re: Another chart--timingmarriage--Ash/all> Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,>> Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...>> Planet Degrees> As 10 Cn 5> Su 4 Aq 19> Mo 10 Pi 26> Ma 4 Aq 28> Me 15 Cp 39> Ju 25 Pi 6> Ve 14 Pi 9> Sa 3 Aq 16> Ra 16 Ge 27> Ke 16 Sg 27>> To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:>> Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.> Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.> Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.> House C or LoC is not affected.>> SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?>> Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It should> reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons

say> that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter> is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not> judging.> Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that (for> females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for the> male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male marriage> too.>> Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in> navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,> marriage should occur early.>> I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to> saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay BUT> father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place> pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the girl> at the age of 25.>> I was trying to check the job

periods.>> He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to> mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.>> his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for> 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should> give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look at> the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify> events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and> mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by> relation to mercury....not sure about this.>> I think I should wait for guidance...>> --Manoshi>>>>>>> , "Manoshi> Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell>

how> > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this> case.> > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.> >> > --Manoshi> >> >> > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,> > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls tell> me> > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might> have> > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector i.e.> > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help> me.> > > Thanks and best regard.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > Dear Manoshi,> > > Why wont you do justice to the

system? You have done many> > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may> > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or> > overlooked.> > >> > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji does> > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts> > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many> > things will get cleared.> > >> > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont> > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its> better> > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find out> > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the> previous> > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are stuck> > we can ask Krushnaji to

guide us in that way we are lucky.> > >> > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry> about> > other things.> > >> > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have posted> I> > am eager to learn from this one too.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > >> > >> > >> > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> > > some events to verify the chart:> > >> > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for> > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed again> > in> > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.> That> > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003, bought> a> > > house (dont know the

month exactly). He has a daughter.> > >> > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I couldnt> > do> > > justice to the system.> > >> > > --Manoshi> > >> > > , "ashsam73"> > > wrote:> > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events> so> > > that> > > > it will help in chart verifications.> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > >> > > > , "ashsam73"> > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the planets.> > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are>

> > accurate.> > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some> > cases> > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if its> > 9th> > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear> if> > > > > degree of planets are given.> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > >> > > > > , Ash> > > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you> > > considred> > > > > along with your mail.> > > > > > It will help others learn.> > > > > > Thanks,> > > >

> > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:> > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time> marriage> > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and Ash> > > always> > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be because> we> > > > tend> > > > > to> > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.> > > > > >> > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964> > > > > > time: 15:40> > > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > >> > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)> > > > > >> > > > > >

--Manoshi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

September 22, 2005

Hello Ramesh

I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the following reason:

- Jupiter is in the constellation of Me

But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation lords are not considered as samadharmi.

I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:

- saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is LoB as well.

Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra. Thus I considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.

regards,

Amitabh.

-

ramesh mishra

Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM

Re: Re: Another chart--timing marriage--Ash/all

Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,

Namaskar,

Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.

As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the 8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house seven in SAV WS.

So can you please tell the forum in connection with your approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your approach.

Thanks and warm regards.

Ramesh MishraAmitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote:

Hello ManoshiThis is my opinion.The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can cause delay.I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay years.In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That make Sun antardasha.Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read it cannotgive results.After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points for H7.After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for mercury.Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that Jupiter as SD ofMercury will give the result.Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.regards,Amitabh.-"Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapaWednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM Re: Another chart--timingmarriage--Ash/all> Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,>> Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...>> Planet Degrees> As 10 Cn 5> Su 4 Aq 19> Mo 10 Pi 26> Ma 4 Aq 28> Me 15 Cp 39> Ju 25 Pi 6> Ve 14 Pi 9> Sa 3 Aq 16> Ra 16 Ge 27> Ke 16 Sg 27>> To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:>> Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.> Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.> Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.> House C or LoC is not affected.>> SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?>> Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It should> reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons say> that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because jupiter> is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am not> judging.> Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given that (for> females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go for the> male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male marriage> too.>> Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in> navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,> marriage should occur early.>> I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay due to> saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause delay BUT> father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes place> pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to the girl> at the age of 25.>> I was trying to check the job periods.>> He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is SD to> mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.>> his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the LoE for> 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus should> give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to look at> the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to justify> events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa and> mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving authority by> relation to mercury....not sure about this.>> I think I should wait for guidance...>> --Manoshi>>>>>>> , "Manoshi> Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please tell> how> > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in this> case.> > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.> >> > --Manoshi> >> >> > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,> > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964. Pls tell> me> > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart might> have> > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third sector i.e.> > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback may help> me.> > > Thanks and best regard.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > Dear Manoshi,> > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done many> > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different and may> > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand or> > overlooked.> > >> > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like Krushnaji does> > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many charts> > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice many> > things will get cleared.> > >> > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and dont> > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think its> better> > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then find out> > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the> previous> > experience will help us. If you and I and list members are stuck> > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.> > >> > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not worry> about> > other things.> > >> > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you have posted> I> > am eager to learn from this one too.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > >> > >> > >> > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> > > some events to verify the chart:> > >> > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of job for> > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss. Changed again> > in> > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big jump.> That> > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003, bought> a> > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.> > >> > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I couldnt> > do> > > justice to the system.> > >> > > --Manoshi> > >> > > , "ashsam73"> > > wrote:> > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important events> so> > > that> > > > it will help in chart verifications.> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > >> > > > , "ashsam73"> > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the planets.> > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions are> > > accurate.> > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in some> > cases> > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear if its> > 9th> > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made clear> if> > > > > degree of planets are given.> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > >> > > > > , Ash> > > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors you> > > considred> > > > > along with your mail.> > > > > > It will help others learn.> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:> > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time> marriage> > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine and Ash> > > always> > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be because> we> > > > tend> > > > > to> > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the marriage.> > > > > >> > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964> > > > > > time: 15:40> > > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > >> > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth certificate)> > > > > >> > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

September 22, 2005

Dear Ash,

Does this chart remain unsolved then?

I will post another chart for timimg marriage, and again I cannot

time it. The person is not married yet and I cannot see delay in

the chart.

will post details later.

--Manoshi

, " Amitabh Choudhury "

<amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> Hello Ramesh

>

> I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the

following reason:

> - Jupiter is in the constellation of Me

>

> But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation lords

are not considered as samadharmi.

>

> I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:

> - saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is LoB

as well.

>

> Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra. Thus I

considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.

>

> regards,

> Amitabh.

>

> -

> ramesh mishra

>

> Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM

> Re: Re: Another chart--

timing marriage--Ash/all

>

> Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,

> Namaskar,

> Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge

the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was

the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the

lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in

lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.

> As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other

hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of

E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I

agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the

8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not

give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav

ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house

seven in SAV WS.

> So can you please tell the forum in connection with your

approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your

approach.

> Thanks and warm regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> Hello Manoshi

>

> This is my opinion.

>

> The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.

> In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can

cause delay.

> I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay

years.

> In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That

make Sun antar

> dasha.

> Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read

it cannot

> give results.

> After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points

for H7.

> After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for

mercury.

> Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that

Jupiter as SD of

> Mercury will give the result.

>

> Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.

>

> regards,

> Amitabh.

>

> -

> " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa>

>

> Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM

> Re: Another chart--timing

> marriage--Ash/all

>

> > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

> >

> > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

> >

> > Planet Degrees

> > As 10 Cn 5

> > Su 4 Aq 19

> > Mo 10 Pi 26

> > Ma 4 Aq 28

> > Me 15 Cp 39

> > Ju 25 Pi 6

> > Ve 14 Pi 9

> > Sa 3 Aq 16

> > Ra 16 Ge 27

> > Ke 16 Sg 27

> >

> > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

> >

> > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> > House C or LoC is not affected.

> >

> > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

should

> > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons

say

> > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because

jupiter

> > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am

not

> > judging.

> > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given

that (for

> > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go

for the

> > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

marriage

> > too.

> >

> > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> > marriage should occur early.

> >

> > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay

due to

> > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause

delay BUT

> > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes

place

> > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to

the girl

> > at the age of 25.

> >

> > I was trying to check the job periods.

> >

> > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is

SD to

> > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

> >

> > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the

LoE for

> > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus

should

> > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to

look at

> > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to

justify

> > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa

and

> > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving

authority by

> > relation to mercury....not sure about this.

> >

> > I think I should wait for guidance...

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please

tell

> > how

> > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in

this

> > case.

> > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , ramesh

mishra

> > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964.

Pls tell

> > me

> > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart

might

> > have

> > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third

sector i.e.

> > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback

may help

> > me.

> > > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done

many

> > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different

and may

> > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand

or

> > > overlooked.

> > > >

> > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like

Krushnaji does

> > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many

charts

> > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice

many

> > > things will get cleared.

> > > >

> > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and

dont

> > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think

its

> > better

> > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then

find out

> > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> > previous

> > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members

are stuck

> > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > > >

> > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not

worry

> > about

> > > other things.

> > > >

> > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you

have posted

> > I

> > > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > some events to verify the chart:

> > > >

> > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of

job for

> > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss.

Changed again

> > > in

> > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big

jump.

> > That

> > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

bought

> > a

> > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > > >

> > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

couldnt

> > > do

> > > > justice to the system.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important

events

> > so

> > > > that

> > > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

planets.

> > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions

are

> > > > accurate.

> > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in

some

> > > cases

> > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear

if its

> > > 9th

> > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made

clear

> > if

> > > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors

you

> > > > considred

> > > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> > marriage

> > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine

and Ash

> > > > always

> > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

because

> > we

> > > > > tend

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the

marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth

certificate)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > >

September 24, 2005

Hi Manoshi and others

Instead of working on a new chart, I will request experienced members of

this group to provide the information thats missing in the analysis.

Thanks.

regards,

Amitabh.

-

" Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa

Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:40 PM

Re: Another chart--timing

marriage--Ash/all

> Dear Ash,

>

> Does this chart remain unsolved then?

>

> I will post another chart for timimg marriage, and again I cannot

> time it. The person is not married yet and I cannot see delay in

> the chart.

>

> will post details later.

>

> --Manoshi

>

> , " Amitabh Choudhury "

> <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> > Hello Ramesh

> >

> > I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the

> following reason:

> > - Jupiter is in the constellation of Me

> >

> > But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation lords

> are not considered as samadharmi.

> >

> > I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:

> > - saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is LoB

> as well.

> >

> > Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra. Thus I

> considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.

> >

> > regards,

> > Amitabh.

> >

> > -

> > ramesh mishra

> >

> > Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM

> > Re: Re: Another chart--

> timing marriage--Ash/all

> >

> > Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,

> > Namaskar,

> > Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge

> the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was

> the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the

> lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in

> lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.

> > As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other

> hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of

> E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I

> agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the

> 8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not

> give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav

> ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house

> seven in SAV WS.

> > So can you please tell the forum in connection with your

> approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your

> approach.

> > Thanks and warm regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> > Hello Manoshi

> >

> > This is my opinion.

> >

> > The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.

> > In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can

> cause delay.

> > I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay

> years.

> > In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That

> make Sun antar

> > dasha.

> > Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read

> it cannot

> > give results.

> > After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points

> for H7.

> > After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for

> mercury.

> > Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that

> Jupiter as SD of

> > Mercury will give the result.

> >

> > Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.

> >

> > regards,

> > Amitabh.

> >

> > -

> > " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa>

> >

> > Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM

> > Re: Another chart--timing

> > marriage--Ash/all

> >

> > > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

> > >

> > > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

> > >

> > > Planet Degrees

> > > As 10 Cn 5

> > > Su 4 Aq 19

> > > Mo 10 Pi 26

> > > Ma 4 Aq 28

> > > Me 15 Cp 39

> > > Ju 25 Pi 6

> > > Ve 14 Pi 9

> > > Sa 3 Aq 16

> > > Ra 16 Ge 27

> > > Ke 16 Sg 27

> > >

> > > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

> > >

> > > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> > > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> > > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> > > House C or LoC is not affected.

> > >

> > > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It

> should

> > > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons

> say

> > > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because

> jupiter

> > > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am

> not

> > > judging.

> > > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given

> that (for

> > > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go

> for the

> > > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male

> marriage

> > > too.

> > >

> > > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in

> > > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,

> > > marriage should occur early.

> > >

> > > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay

> due to

> > > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause

> delay BUT

> > > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes

> place

> > > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to

> the girl

> > > at the age of 25.

> > >

> > > I was trying to check the job periods.

> > >

> > > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is

> SD to

> > > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.

> > >

> > > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the

> LoE for

> > > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus

> should

> > > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to

> look at

> > > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to

> justify

> > > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa

> and

> > > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving

> authority by

> > > relation to mercury....not sure about this.

> > >

> > > I think I should wait for guidance...

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please

> tell

> > > how

> > > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in

> this

> > > case.

> > > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , ramesh

> mishra

> > > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964.

> Pls tell

> > > me

> > > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart

> might

> > > have

> > > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third

> sector i.e.

> > > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback

> may help

> > > me.

> > > > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done

> many

> > > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different

> and may

> > > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand

> or

> > > > overlooked.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like

> Krushnaji does

> > > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many

> charts

> > > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice

> many

> > > > things will get cleared.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and

> dont

> > > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think

> its

> > > better

> > > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then

> find out

> > > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the

> > > previous

> > > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members

> are stuck

> > > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not

> worry

> > > about

> > > > other things.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you

> have posted

> > > I

> > > > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > some events to verify the chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of

> job for

> > > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss.

> Changed again

> > > > in

> > > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big

> jump.

> > > That

> > > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,

> bought

> > > a

> > > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I

> couldnt

> > > > do

> > > > > justice to the system.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important

> events

> > > so

> > > > > that

> > > > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the

> planets.

> > > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions

> are

> > > > > accurate.

> > > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in

> some

> > > > cases

> > > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear

> if its

> > > > 9th

> > > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made

> clear

> > > if

> > > > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors

> you

> > > > > considred

> > > > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time

> > > marriage

> > > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine

> and Ash

> > > > > always

> > > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be

> because

> > > we

> > > > > > tend

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the

> marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth

> certificate)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

September 24, 2005

Dear Amitabh, Namaskar,

My query remains still doubtful. My qery could not be answered satisfactorily.I asked you what did make you to arrive at the decision of approaching Jup antardasha. Me can not be SD of Jup.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraAmitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote:

Hi Manoshi and othersInstead of working on a new chart, I will request experienced members ofthis group to provide the information thats missing in the analysis.Thanks.regards,Amitabh.-"Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapaThursday, September 22, 2005 11:40 PM Re: Another chart--timingmarriage--Ash/all> Dear Ash,>> Does this chart remain unsolved then?>> I will post another chart for timimg marriage, and again I cannot> time it. The person is not married yet and I cannot see delay in> the chart.>> will post details later.>> --Manoshi>> ,

"Amitabh Choudhury"> <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:> > Hello Ramesh> >> > I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the> following reason:> > - Jupiter is in the constellation of Me> >> > But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation lords> are not considered as samadharmi.> >> > I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:> > - saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is LoB> as well.> >> > Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra. Thus I> considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.> >> > regards,> > Amitabh.> >> >> > -> > ramesh mishra> > >

> Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM> > Re: Re: Another chart--> timing marriage--Ash/all> >> >> > Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,> > Namaskar,> > Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge> the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was> the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the> lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in> lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.> > As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other> hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of> E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I> agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the>

8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not> give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav> ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house> seven in SAV WS.> > So can you please tell the forum in connection with your> approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your> approach.> > Thanks and warm regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> >> > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:> > Hello Manoshi> >> >> > This is my opinion.> >> > The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.> > In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can> cause delay.> > I

do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay> years.> > In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That> make Sun antar> > dasha.> > Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read> it cannot> > give results.> > After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points> for H7.> > After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for> mercury.> > Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that> Jupiter as SD of> > Mercury will give the result.> >> > Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.> >> > regards,>

> Amitabh.> >> >> > -> > "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa>> > > > Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM> > Re: Another chart--timing> > marriage--Ash/all> >> >> > > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,> > >> > > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...> > >> > > Planet Degrees> > > As 10 Cn 5> > > Su 4 Aq 19>

> > Mo 10 Pi 26> > > Ma 4 Aq 28> > > Me 15 Cp 39> > > Ju 25 Pi 6> > > Ve 14 Pi 9> > > Sa 3 Aq 16> > > Ra 16 Ge 27> > > Ke 16 Sg 27> > >> > > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:> > >> > > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.> > > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.> > > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.> > > House C or LoC is not affected.> > >>

> > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?> > >> > > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It> should> > > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons> say> > > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because> jupiter> > > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am> not> > > judging.> > > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given> that (for> > > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go> for the> > > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male>

marriage> > > too.> > >> > > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in> > > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,> > > marriage should occur early.> > >> > > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay> due to> > > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause> delay BUT> > > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes> place> > > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to> the girl> > > at the age of 25.> >

>> > > I was trying to check the job periods.> > >> > > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is> SD to> > > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.> > >> > > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the> LoE for> > > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus> should> > > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to> look at> > > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to> justify> > > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa> and>

> > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving> authority by> > > relation to mercury....not sure about this.> > >> > > I think I should wait for guidance...> > >> > > --Manoshi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Manoshi> > > Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please> tell>

> > how> > > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in> this> > > case.> > > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.> > > >> > > > --Manoshi> > > >> > > >> > > > , ramesh> mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,> > > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964.> Pls tell> > > me>

> > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart> might> > > have> > > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third> sector i.e.> > > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback> may help> > > me.> > > > > Thanks and best regard.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done> many> > > > analysis very well in the

past. Each chart is different> and may> > > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand> or> > > > overlooked.> > > > >> > > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like> Krushnaji does> > > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many> charts> > > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice> many> > > > things will get cleared.> > > > >> > > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and> dont> > > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I

think> its> > > better> > > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then> find out> > > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the> > > previous> > > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members> are stuck> > > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.> > > > >> > > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not> worry> > > about> > > > other things.> > > > >> > > > > Just as I have learnt from

the other charts that you> have posted> > > I> > > > am eager to learn from this one too.> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> > > > > some events to verify the chart:> > > > >> > > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of> job for> > > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss.> Changed again>

> > > in> > > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big> jump.> > > That> > > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,> bought> > > a> > > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.> > > > >> > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I> couldnt> > > > do> > > > > justice to the system.> > > > >> > > > > --Manoshi> > > > >> > >

> > --- In> , "ashsam73"> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important> events> > > so> > > > > that> > > > > > it will help in chart verifications.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,>

> > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the> planets.> > > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions> are> > > > > accurate.> > > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in> some> > > > cases> > > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear> if its> > > > 9th> > > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made> clear> > > if> > > > > > > degree of planets are given.> > > > > >

> Thanks,> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors> you> > > > > considred> > > > > > > along with your mail.> > > > > > > > It will help others learn.> > > > > > > > Thanks,>

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:> > > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time> > > marriage> > > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine> and Ash> > > > > always> > > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be> because> > > we> > > > > > tend> > > > > > > to>

> > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the> marriage.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964> > > > > > > > time: 15:40> > > > > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth> certificate)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

September 24, 2005

Dear Ramesh

When I posted the mail, I was under the impression that planet can be samadharmi to the nakshatra lord and hence i mentioned jupiter as samadharmi to mercury.

Now I know that nakshatra lord cannot be samadharmi to planet. Hence I am not sure about "how arrive at a particular antardasha".

I considered full delay for the reasons mentioned in a previous mail.

regards,

Amitabh.

-

ramesh mishra

Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:10 PM

Re: Re: Another chart--timing marriage--Ash/all

Dear Amitabh, Namaskar,

My query remains still doubtful. My qery could not be answered satisfactorily.I asked you what did make you to arrive at the decision of approaching Jup antardasha. Me can not be SD of Jup.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh MishraAmitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote:

Hi Manoshi and othersInstead of working on a new chart, I will request experienced members ofthis group to provide the information thats missing in the analysis.Thanks.regards,Amitabh.-"Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapaThursday, September 22, 2005 11:40 PM Re: Another chart--timingmarriage--Ash/all> Dear Ash,>> Does this chart remain unsolved then?>> I will post another chart for timimg marriage, and again I cannot> time it. The person is not married yet and I cannot see delay in> the chart.>> will post details later.>> --Manoshi>> , "Amitabh Choudhury"> <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:> > Hello Ramesh> >> > I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the> following reason:> > - Jupiter is in the constellation of Me> >> > But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation lords> are not considered as samadharmi.> >> > I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:> > - saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is LoB> as well.> >> > Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra. Thus I> considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.> >> > regards,> > Amitabh.> >> >> > -> > ramesh mishra> > > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM> > Re: Re: Another chart--> timing marriage--Ash/all> >> >> > Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,> > Namaskar,> > Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to judge> the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What was> the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in the> lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not in> lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.> > As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the other> hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house of> E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I> agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in the> 8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could not> give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in sav> ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house> seven in SAV WS.> > So can you please tell the forum in connection with your> approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from your> approach.> > Thanks and warm regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> >> > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:> > Hello Manoshi> >> >> > This is my opinion.> >> > The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.> > In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can> cause delay.> > I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay> years.> > In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5. That> make Sun antar> > dasha.> > Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I read> it cannot> > give results.> > After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points> for H7.> > After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD for> mercury.> > Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that> Jupiter as SD of> > Mercury will give the result.> >> > Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.> >> > regards,> > Amitabh.> >> >> > -> > "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa>> > > > Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM> > Re: Another chart--timing> > marriage--Ash/all> >> >> > > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,> > >> > > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...> > >> > > Planet Degrees> > > As 10 Cn 5> > > Su 4 Aq 19> > > Mo 10 Pi 26> > > Ma 4 Aq 28> > > Me 15 Cp 39> > > Ju 25 Pi 6> > > Ve 14 Pi 9> > > Sa 3 Aq 16> > > Ra 16 Ge 27> > > Ke 16 Sg 27> > >> > > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:> > >> > > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.> > > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.> > > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.> > > House C or LoC is not affected.> > >> > > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?> > >> > > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart so It> should> > > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and lessons> say> > > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only because> jupiter> > > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter I am> not> > > judging.> > > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is given> that (for> > > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should go> for the> > > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for male> marriage> > > too.> > >> > > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th lord in> > > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's blessings,> > > marriage should occur early.> > >> > > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward delay> due to> > > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause> delay BUT> > > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes> place> > > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached to> the girl> > > at the age of 25.> > >> > > I was trying to check the job periods.> > >> > > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and jupiter is> SD to> > > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats fine.> > >> > > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the> LoE for> > > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if venus> should> > > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then to> look at> > > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to> justify> > > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in navamsa> and> > > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving> authority by> > > relation to mercury....not sure about this.> > >> > > I think I should wait for guidance...> > >> > > --Manoshi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Manoshi> > > Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote:> > > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you please> tell> > > how> > > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost in> this> > > case.> > > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts too.> > > >> > > > --Manoshi> > > >> > > >> > > > , ramesh> mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,> > > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb 1964.> Pls tell> > > me> > > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this chart> might> > > have> > > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third> sector i.e.> > > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback> may help> > > me.> > > > > Thanks and best regard.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done> many> > > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is different> and may> > > > bring up something that you or I do not know or understand> or> > > > overlooked.> > > > >> > > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like> Krushnaji does> > > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many many> charts> > > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with practice> many> > > > things will get cleared.> > > > >> > > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts and> dont> > > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I think> its> > > better> > > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and then> find out> > > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see the> > > previous> > > > experience will help us. If you and I and list members> are stuck> > > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are lucky.> > > > >> > > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do not> worry> > > about> > > > other things.> > > > >> > > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you> have posted> > > I> > > > am eager to learn from this one too.> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> > > > > some events to verify the chart:> > > > >> > > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of> job for> > > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss.> Changed again> > > > in> > > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a big> jump.> > > That> > > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc. 2003,> bought> > > a> > > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a daughter.> > > > >> > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I know I> couldnt> > > > do> > > > > justice to the system.> > > > >> > > > > --Manoshi> > > > >> > > > > --- In> , "ashsam73"> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some important> events> > > so> > > > > that> > > > > > it will help in chart verifications.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of the> planets.> > > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary positions> are> > > > > accurate.> > > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM or in> some> > > > cases> > > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never clear> if its> > > > 9th> > > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be made> clear> > > if> > > > > > > degree of planets are given.> > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , Ash> > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,> > > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all factors> you> > > > > considred> > > > > > > along with your mail.> > > > > > > > It will help others learn.> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:> > > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to time> > > marriage> > > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of mine> and Ash> > > > > always> > > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may be> because> > > we> > > > > > tend> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the> marriage.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964> > > > > > > > time: 15:40> > > > > > > > place: calcutta> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth> certificate)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --Manoshi> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

September 26, 2005

Dear Amitabh,

I shall also wait for Krushnaji to commment on this chart when he

has time. I feel that we all will be learning something from this

chart.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Amitabh Choudhury "

<amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> Hi Manoshi and others

>

> Instead of working on a new chart, I will request experienced

members of

> this group to provide the information thats missing in the

analysis.

>

> Thanks.

>

> regards,

> Amitabh.

>

> -

> " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa>

>

> Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:40 PM

> Re: Another chart--timing

> marriage--Ash/all

>

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Does this chart remain unsolved then?

> >

> > I will post another chart for timimg marriage, and again I cannot

> > time it. The person is not married yet and I cannot see delay in

> > the chart.

> >

> > will post details later.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " Amitabh

Choudhury "

> > <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> > > Hello Ramesh

> > >

> > > I had considered jupiter to be samdharmi to mercury due to the

> > following reason:

> > > - Jupiter is in the constellation of Me

> > >

> > > But Ash informed that for planets, nakshatra/constellation

lords

> > are not considered as samadharmi.

> > >

> > > I considered delay of saturn due to the following reason:

> > > - saturn was in the eighth house aspecting LoA and saturn is

LoB

> > as well.

> > >

> > > Note:- In navamsa I got Lagna as Libra and saturn in libra.

Thus I

> > considered saturn aspect on 7th as a factor for delay.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Amitabh.

> > >

> > > -

> > > ramesh mishra

> > >

> > > Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:26 AM

> > > Re: Re: Another chart--

> > timing marriage--Ash/all

> > >

> > > Dear Amitabh, Ash, Manoshi and all,

> > > Namaskar,

> > > Dear Amitabh, can you please tell me what did make you to

judge

> > the Jupiter antar dasha for giving the result of marriage. What

was

> > the methof of approaching up to Jup.As you have written Sa is in

the

> > lagna in navamsa and aspecting 7th house. Pls see that Sa is not

in

> > lagna but it is in 2nd house of libra navamsa.

> > > As Ash has rightly told that Jup is not SD of Me. On the

other

> > hand Ra is SD of Me because Ra is in the sign of Gemini a house

of

> > E. After the antara of Moon, the next dasa is of Mars and Rahu. I

> > agreed Mars can not perform the marriage due to his weakness in

the

> > 8th house in Rashi. But what was the wrong with Ra, why he could

not

> > give the result being SD of Me who scores highest point of 20 in

sav

> > ws.Jup comes next to Rahu. Jup stands fourth in ranking for house

> > seven in SAV WS.

> > > So can you please tell the forum in connection with your

> > approach up to Jup. antara so that all members can benefit from

your

> > approach.

> > > Thanks and warm regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury@g...> wrote:

> > > Hello Manoshi

> > >

> > > This is my opinion.

> > >

> > > The marriage took place during Jupiter antar dasha.

> > > In navamsa Saturn is in lagna and aspecting 7th. This can

> > cause delay.

> > > I do not know the calculations involved to judge the delay

> > years.

> > > In some message I saw that the number of years is 27.5.

That

> > make Sun antar

> > > dasha.

> > > Sun is LoA and aspecting House A in Rasi chart. Thus as I

read

> > it cannot

> > > give results.

> > > After Sun is Moon. In that KAS worksheet moon has 11 points

> > for H7.

> > > After Moon is Jupiter antardasha. Jupiter is the only SD

for

> > mercury.

> > > Mercury has highest points in the H7. Hence I consider that

> > Jupiter as SD of

> > > Mercury will give the result.

> > >

> > > Other members please correct my analysis and judgement.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Amitabh.

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa>

> > >

> > > Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:29 AM

> > > Re: Another chart--

timing

> > > marriage--Ash/all

> > >

> > > > Dear Ash/Ramesh/all,

> > > >

> > > > Here is my analysis...though it doesnt match...

> > > >

> > > > Planet Degrees

> > > > As 10 Cn 5

> > > > Su 4 Aq 19

> > > > Mo 10 Pi 26

> > > > Ma 4 Aq 28

> > > > Me 15 Cp 39

> > > > Ju 25 Pi 6

> > > > Ve 14 Pi 9

> > > > Sa 3 Aq 16

> > > > Ra 16 Ge 27

> > > > Ke 16 Sg 27

> > > >

> > > > To look at the delay, lets look at the planet Saturn:

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is in 8th house with Sun (LoA) and Mars.

> > > > Saturn aspects house A in Rasi chart.

> > > > Saturn is with moon, aspects House B in navamsa.

> > > > House C or LoC is not affected.

> > > >

> > > > SO NO DELAY DUE TO SATURN...is that right?

> > > >

> > > > Now, Jupiter is also aspecting Saturn in navamsa chart

so It

> > should

> > > > reduce the delay effect....but it's a male chart and

lessons

> > say

> > > > that jupiter delay is judged in female charts only

because

> > jupiter

> > > > is the karak for child for males...so effect of jupiter

I am

> > not

> > > > judging.

> > > > Venus is with saturn in navamsa and in lessons it is

given

> > that (for

> > > > females), it can cause delay. I am considering it should

go

> > for the

> > > > male chart as well as Venus is an important planet for

male

> > marriage

> > > > too.

> > > >

> > > > Now, there is a 5:9 relationship between 1st and 9th

lord in

> > > > navamsa, in conjunction in rasi chart..so father's

blessings,

> > > > marriage should occur early.

> > > >

> > > > I am totally confused...there is no straight forward

delay

> > due to

> > > > saturn, though association of venus with saturn may cause

> > delay BUT

> > > > father's blessings are there. In reality, marriage takes

> > place

> > > > pretty late in life, though he was emotionally attached

to

> > the girl

> > > > at the age of 25.

> > > >

> > > > I was trying to check the job periods.

> > > >

> > > > He got his first job, changed jobs in mer/jup and

jupiter is

> > SD to

> > > > mercury (nakshatra) and Merc is LoD for 6th. so thats

fine.

> > > >

> > > > his major job change took place in Ve/Ve and venus is the

> > LoE for

> > > > 6th house. that matches too. but I was wondering if

venus

> > should

> > > > give authority, as it has 11 points for 10th house, then

to

> > look at

> > > > the SD planets, ( may be I am wrong here and trying to

> > justify

> > > > events) mercury is SD to venus as Me is in taurus in

navamsa

> > and

> > > > mercury has 22 points for 10th house, so it is giving

> > authority by

> > > > relation to mercury....not sure about this.

> > > >

> > > > I think I should wait for guidance...

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > Ramesh you are close, but not really, but could you

please

> > tell

> > > > how

> > > > > you came to the conclusion, because I am totally lost

in

> > this

> > > > case.

> > > > > I will disclose the date later and give my attempts

too.

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > , ramesh

> > mishra

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash and Manoshi, Well Wishes,

> > > > > > I tried to attempt the chart whose DOB is 16 Feb

1964.

> > Pls tell

> > > > me

> > > > > whether my attempt is correct. The marriage of this

chart

> > might

> > > > have

> > > > > taken place during MD of Ketu and AD of Venus in third

> > sector i.e.

> > > > > sometime between Apr 91 to 10-11 Jun 1991.Your feedback

> > may help

> > > > me.

> > > > > > Thanks and best regard.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > Why wont you do justice to the system? You have done

> > many

> > > > > analysis very well in the past. Each chart is

different

> > and may

> > > > > bring up something that you or I do not know or

understand

> > or

> > > > > overlooked.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guess it will take us decades to do charts like

> > Krushnaji does

> > > > > or reads but till then we must work hard, solve many

many

> > charts

> > > > > (with proper birth times date etc) and then with

practice

> > many

> > > > > things will get cleared.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like you, I am also a student. I also make attempts

and

> > dont

> > > > > worry about the answer if its right or wrong..... I

think

> > its

> > > > better

> > > > > to make a sincere attempt and make a mistake now and

then

> > find out

> > > > > where we went wrong, in that way the next chart we see

the

> > > > previous

> > > > > experience will help us. If you and I and list

members

> > are stuck

> > > > > we can ask Krushnaji to guide us in that way we are

lucky.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I shall look forward to your attempt and please do

not

> > worry

> > > > about

> > > > > other things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just as I have learnt from the other charts that you

> > have posted

> > > > I

> > > > > am eager to learn from this one too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:

> > > > > > some events to verify the chart:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > joined first job in 1986 later in the year. Change of

> > job for

> > > > > > better in 1987 in June-July sometime. No job loss.

> > Changed again

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 1999 early that year ( got offer in 1998 end) for a

big

> > jump.

> > > > That

> > > > > > job gave very good authority, income increase etc.

2003,

> > bought

> > > > a

> > > > > > house (dont know the month exactly). He has a

daughter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will give my analysis on this chart too...but I

know I

> > couldnt

> > > > > do

> > > > > > justice to the system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > I also forgot to add, Please also give some

important

> > events

> > > > so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > it will help in chart verifications.

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > > Also please clearly give the degree positions of

the

> > planets.

> > > > > > > > It will help others tally if the planetary

positions

> > are

> > > > > > accurate.

> > > > > > > > Sometimes we make mistakes in typing AM and PM

or in

> > some

> > > > > cases

> > > > > > > > people type 9/8/1950 for example and its never

clear

> > if its

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > August or 8th September etc. Such things can be

made

> > clear

> > > > if

> > > > > > > > degree of planets are given.

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > > > > > > > Please give your detailed attempt and all

factors

> > you

> > > > > > considred

> > > > > > > > along with your mail.

> > > > > > > > > It will help others learn.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Here is another chart which I was not able to

time

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > > correctly. Now, this person is a relative of

mine

> > and Ash

> > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > tells to take the charts of unknown people may

be

> > because

> > > > we

> > > > > > > tend

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > get biassed. But here I just want to time the

> > marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > date of birth: 16 feb 1964

> > > > > > > > > time: 15:40

> > > > > > > > > place: calcutta

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > time is correct with 3 minutes +/- ( birth

> > certificate)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

Another chart--timing marriage--Ash/all

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