Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 If only KAS2005 could be opened on the net directly instead of downloading the same.. , Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Raji and Manoshi, > > Yes, Manoshi you are correct. > > Say when finding delay in marriage we will check if Shani aspects House A,B or C in Rasi chart only i.e. w.r.t. house and the Lords of House A, B or C from RASI only. > > We check this aspect of Shani on LoA,LoB or LoC in Rasi and in also in navamsa but only to the lords of House A,B and C from Rasi. > > For example take Gemini lagna then LoA is Moon, LoB is Jupiter and LoC is Mars. Then we will find if Shani aspects Mo, Ju and Ma in Rasi and also in Navamsa. > > Also when we cast the WS for navamsa the we only consider the Top portion i.e A+B+C points from the SAV of Navamsa. > > Like that we cast the WS for all the divisional charts but we only consider A+B+C points. Ofcouse we first have to cast the SAV charts and from that we get the A+B+C points for the house under consideration. > > Yes, one more thing, from Navamsa we also find Samdharmis. Say for example if Guru is in navamsa of Capricorn then we say that Guru is samdharmi to Shani. > > The KAS2005 program is designed with all those parameters and gives all this information. > > Raji, spend a little bit of time on KAS2005 program to find out all that it offers like Transits, D charts, planets status etc etc etc. > > Good questions. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote: > We must take into consideration both the rasi and the navamsa chart. > They are`given equal status but, in navamsa we try to look at the > relationship of the planets rather than the house placements. > > --Manoshi > > , " raji1153 " > wrote: > > > > What gains precedence? Results of Rashi chart or that of the > > namvamsha chart? > > > > Why haven't we included SAV calculations for the namvamsha chart > as > > well in the worksheet? > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > on a second thought, jupiter should not control saturn as the > > planet > > > with low points control the planet in 4t house. but jupiter has > 6 > > > points. Marriage should take place in mercury antra I think. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ramesh, Ash and others, > > > > > > > > Though Ash has already attempted the chart, I will try too. > > > > > > > > I see a complete delay by saturn. There is no check from > jupiter > > > as > > > > it is not aspecting saturn and also is in nakshatra of saturn > > BUT > > > > Jupiter is in exalted sign and jupiter is in 10th from saturn > > with > > > 6 > > > > points so it should be controliing saturn, so will it check > > delay? > > > > (Am I going in a wrong direction?) Looking at the strength of > > the > > > > planets for 7th house, 1st and 7th house lords in 5:9 in > navamsa > > > nad > > > > 4:10(which is square and not recommendable though), venus- sun > > > > distance is ok , though the native will be dominating > tendencies > > > (31 > > > > points for lagna and moon sthaan)etc. I would suggest marriage > > > would > > > > have taken place in rahu antra (if delay is reduced due to > > > jupiter) > > > > as Rahu acts like venus and jupiter but jupiter cannot give > > event > > > as > > > > it is aspecting 7th hosue but venus is loD. > > > > OR mercury antra ( if there is a delay), though the delay > period > > > is > > > > over before but saturn is unable to give marriage here. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to attempt this but as you have said, it's the > > same > > > > > with me...I get stuck quite often and cannot find the > marriage > > > > date > > > > > always correctly without help. Could you please give a few > > > > > important events too and how sure are you about the birth > time? > > > > > > > > > > I have more charts to discuss...we can always pratice on > those > > > > > charts...ok that's later, for now please reply with the > > > important > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > mishra > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi and members, > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > Here is the birth details of a male native born on 20 Oct > > 1954 > > > > at > > > > > the time of 00:16 am at the palce of Muradnagar,India whose > co- > > > > > ordinates are 28 N 47, 77 E 29. > > > > > > If the members are interested may find the date of > marriage? > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > > > > > > Yes Ramesh, that is what it is...5:9 relation of first and > > 9th > > > > > lord > > > > > > have reduced delay...and also the death of father took > place > > > in > > > > > > saturn with highest points for 4th house which is SD to > moon > > > > > LoE/LoD. > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is solved if time is rectified to 7:50 am or > may > > > be > > > > > > still earlier( not going into details) . > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , ramesh > > mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi and members, > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > It is really I am experiencing the difficulties to find > > out > > > > the > > > > > > timings of an event. > > > > > > > For this I am not blaming the system but lack of > > knowledge. > > > As > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > Ash analysed the chart with corrected birth time, he > > analysed > > > > the > > > > > > chart elaborately which is very useful for the list > members > > to > > > > > learn > > > > > > a lot. Since the marriage time is exposed I may have the > > > > previlege > > > > > > to say that in the lessons of your system somewhere I read > > > that > > > > > when > > > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord is in 5:9 combination the delay is > > > > > > nullified. So is in this chart .Lagna lord Moon and 9th > lord > > > > Jup. > > > > > is > > > > > > in 5:9 position. > > > > > > > Therefore this combination might have helped the native. > > > What > > > > is > > > > > > your opinion? > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to solve this chart with the given data (click > > > here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn shows delay as it is related to houses A, B and > > C…so > > > I > > > > > > would say when Saturn returns to 0 degree cancer then, the > > > delay > > > > > > period will be over…so that is sometime late july 1976. > > but > > > as > > > > I > > > > > > know that the marriage took place earlier, so let me try > > other > > > > > > options. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling abroad …lets check 3rd house…the LoD and > > LoE for > > > > 3rd > > > > > > house are moon and Jupiter and the travel was during > > mercury. > > > So > > > > > is > > > > > > mercury related to moon and Jupiter? Well, mercury is not > SD > > > to > > > > > any > > > > > > one of them…then? Lets check 12 house points, and mercury > > has > > > 16 > > > > > > points so pretty high points though. Mars has highest, > and > > it > > > > is > > > > > SD > > > > > > to mercury so mercury can give results for travelling > > abroad. > > > > Well > > > > > > that explains for travelling abroad but doesn’t support > > > > permanent > > > > > > kind of travel which actually happened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now , lets check mother’s death…8th from 3rd house, or > > LoD > > > or > > > > > LoE > > > > > > from 8th of 3rd with highest points?... venus has 13 > points > > > for > > > > > 10th > > > > > > house, saturn has 22 points..so should have been Saturn . > > > What > > > > > > about fathers death? 8th from 9th house or LoD /LoE from > 8th > > > of > > > > > 9th > > > > > > …mars is the lord, so mars in 4th has 20 points sun has > > 21 > > > > > points , > > > > > > should take place in sun AD., mars is second highest in > the > > > > list. > > > > > > Doesn’t match with this birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok lets change the lagna as it is in border…so, making > > it > > > > > cancer, > > > > > > lets see what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets make the data 7:50 in the morning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok now…lets check mother‘s death…10th house, Saturn, > > Mercury > > > > and > > > > > > Mars can give results, but mercury has highest points..so > it > > > > > should > > > > > > give results…YES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear doubts: * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father’s death should take place in 4th lord, loE/LoD of > > 4th > > > > > > house. Here, moon/jup/venus can give results. I am > assuming > > > that > > > > > > Saturn has highest points as is NK and it is giving > > > results….ok > > > > ( > > > > > I > > > > > > myself am not satisfied with my analysis) as Saturn is not > > > > LoE/LoD > > > > > > or 4th lord but has highest points….does that enough to > > give > > > > > > results. Rectifying time as 7:50 am, father’s death time > > this > > > > way > > > > > > matches . YES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let me time the abroad going. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is 3rd house lord, LoD as well for 3rd house. It > > has > > > > 19 > > > > > > points in 12th house, all support going abroad on a > > permanent > > > > kind > > > > > > of basis. YES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, now if we try to time marriage according to this > > time… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in house 2nd, aspecting house C and itself is the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > > house B makes it full dalay. Two zeroes in the chart as > > well. > > > So > > > > > > when Saturn will come to zero degree cancer, delay period > > > ends > > > > > > which is 13 july1975. but marriage has taken place in Feb > > > 1973. > > > > I > > > > > > am stuck again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ignoring the dalay, how perfectly it matches…ketu is > > SD > > > to > > > > > > mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury is LoE for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury has highest points so a very strong planet to > give > > > > > > marriage, and it does give marriage. Marriage is happy, > > took > > > > > place > > > > > > in high points… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear doubts* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But…what about the delay? Jupiter has 5th aspect on > > Saturn > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, so may be reducing delay but is also present in > 7th > > > > house > > > > > > in rasi chart, so shouldn’t it increase delay as well? If > > you > > > > > could > > > > > > explain it Ash or Krushna ji… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And please tell me where I went wrong with any of the > > > > > analysis/any > > > > > > errors or any point I have not taken into consideration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posting a chart...let's time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd july 1949 > > > > > > > > 8:20 am > > > > > > > > Murshidabad (24 N 11, 88 E 16), India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Death of father: 1999 Oct > > > > > > > > Death of Mother: 2001 May > > > > > > > > First went abroad : 1986 June > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we also time the birth of the child in this case? > > That > > > > > will > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > learning experiece too. I will post my analysis later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group " " on the > web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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