Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Bala, quote: " Came to USA in May 1998 This happened in Venus and again Me must have caused this event being sd to ve in Navamsa. 4th house has less points and 12th house (Me) being the highest might have caused this. " could you please elaborate on this? venus is SD to Mercury...agreed. Mercury has high points in 12th house(agreed) and low in 4th,( my observation is that mercury/venus has high points for 4th house). And not only that, low points in 12th house gives travel...isnt that true? and mercury is not related to 3rd house/12th house/8th house. It is not LoD/LoE for any of the travel houses. What am I missing? thanx Manoshi , bala sosale <bsosale> wrote: > > Hello SD, > > Here are my findings. > > > SD > DOB: 17 Feb 1972 > TOB: 4:34 AM > POB: Indore, MP India > Timezone: IST (- 5:30) > Latitude: 22N43 > Longitude: 75E50 > > Your KAS chart > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 23 Sg 57 P.Asadha Ve Sc Su 4 Aq 49 Dhanistha Ma Sc Mo 0 Pi 52 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Ma 11 Ar 38 Aswini Ke Cn Me 4 Aq 34 Dhanistha Ma Sc Ju 9 Sg 15 Moola Ke Ge Ve 15 Pi 11 U.Bhadrapada Sa Sc Sa 7 Ta 16 Krittika Su Pi Ra 11 Cp 34 Sravana Mo Ar Ke 11 Cn 34 Pushya Sa Li > > > Key Events: > yours > > First Job: Jointed Jan 1997 > > This happened in ketu sector 2 and Ketu acts like Moon which is LOD for 6th as B and Jupiter is LOE for 6th as B. Me has the highest points for 11th which has given you the first Job. Su is SD to Me was also responsible. The period must have been around 11th -13th Jan 1997.Confirm on this. > > Came to USA in May 1998 > This happened in Venus and again Me must have caused this event being sd to ve in Navamsa. 4th house has less points and 12th house (Me) being the highest might have caused this. > > Marriage: Feb 2000 > > Me being sd has the highest points for 7th and there is no delay. The marriage must have happened during Sun's transit in Dhanishta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars LOD for 7th. So that fits the date you have given. This happened in Venus Bhukthi. > > Major career advancement: March 2000 > > Looks like Me has helped you in all the cases as it has good points for all the houses except 3rd. Me being SD to Ve in Navamsa. Me has good points for 5th, 6th , 10th and 11th which are needed for career advancements. > > > Occupationally Difficult days: first Quarter of 2003 > > You were running Mars Bhukthi which has all less points for most of the > work related houses. There must have been loss of job and authority during this period. Please note that it is lord of 12th house for 1st house as B and as well as 12th lord for B=6 in 12th. > > > > Spouse: > DOB: 14 March 1977 > TOB: 8:02 PM > POB: MuzaffarNagar, UP India > Timezone: IST (-5:30) > Latitude: 29N28 > Longitude: 77E41 > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 22 Vi 53 Hasta Mo Cn Su 1 Pi 15 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 Sg 35 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 4 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 Aq 43 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 44 Krittika Su Aq Ve 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta > > > > Spouse: > First job: Hired Aug 1999 (Joined on Jan 2000) > This happened in Ra/Ra which acts like Ve and has the highest points for 11th > > Marriage: Feb 2000 > This is where I am getting some conflicts as far as the marriage is concerned. if the asdt moves to Libra it makes more sense for marriage to happens in Ra/Ra (SD - Venus) > > How sure are you about your wife's data? > > To move to the next asdt, it should be atleast 45 mins +. > > get back to me and then I will continue... > > Regards > Bala > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Bala, I posted the previous post in a hurry I guess. I noted a few more things. I would say, venus gave travel (more of a permanent kind) as it is SD to moon which is loE for 3rd house. In that period the 12th house points go low as well. I would appreciate your views on this. --Manoshi , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa> wrote: > > Dear Bala, > > quote: > " Came to USA in May 1998 > This happened in Venus and again Me must have caused this event > being sd to ve in Navamsa. 4th house has less points and 12th house > (Me) being the highest might have caused this. " > > could you please elaborate on this? > > venus is SD to Mercury...agreed. Mercury has high points in 12th > house(agreed) and low in 4th,( my observation is that mercury/venus > has high points for 4th house). > And not only that, low points in 12th house gives travel...isnt that > true? and mercury is not related to 3rd house/12th house/8th house. > It is not LoD/LoE for any of the travel houses. What am I missing? > > thanx > Manoshi > > , bala sosale > <bsosale> wrote: > > > > Hello SD, > > > > Here are my findings. > > > > > > SD > > DOB: 17 Feb 1972 > > TOB: 4:34 AM > > POB: Indore, MP India > > Timezone: IST (- 5:30) > > Latitude: 22N43 > > Longitude: 75E50 > > > > Your KAS chart > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 23 > Sg 57 P.Asadha Ve Sc Su 4 Aq 49 Dhanistha Ma Sc Mo 0 > Pi 52 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Ma 11 Ar 38 Aswini Ke Cn Me 4 > Aq 34 Dhanistha Ma Sc Ju 9 Sg 15 Moola Ke Ge Ve 15 Pi > 11 U.Bhadrapada Sa Sc Sa 7 Ta 16 Krittika Su Pi Ra 11 > Cp 34 Sravana Mo Ar Ke 11 Cn 34 Pushya Sa Li > > > > > > Key Events: > > yours > > > > First Job: Jointed Jan 1997 > > > > This happened in ketu sector 2 and Ketu acts like Moon which is > LOD for 6th as B and Jupiter is LOE for 6th as B. Me has the highest > points for 11th which has given you the first Job. Su is SD to Me > was also responsible. The period must have been around 11th -13th > Jan 1997.Confirm on this. > > > > Came to USA in May 1998 > > This happened in Venus and again Me must have caused this event > being sd to ve in Navamsa. 4th house has less points and 12th house > (Me) being the highest might have caused this. > > > > Marriage: Feb 2000 > > > > Me being sd has the highest points for 7th and there is no > delay. The marriage must have happened during Sun's transit in > Dhanishta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars LOD for 7th. So that fits > the date you have given. This happened in Venus Bhukthi. > > > > Major career advancement: March 2000 > > > > Looks like Me has helped you in all the cases as it has good > points for all the houses except 3rd. Me being SD to Ve in Navamsa. > Me has good points for 5th, 6th , 10th and 11th which are needed for > career advancements. > > > > > > Occupationally Difficult days: first Quarter of 2003 > > > > You were running Mars Bhukthi which has all less points for most > of the > > work related houses. There must have been loss of job and > authority during this period. Please note that it is lord of 12th > house for 1st house as B and as well as 12th lord for B=6 in 12th. > > > > > > > > Spouse: > > DOB: 14 March 1977 > > TOB: 8:02 PM > > POB: MuzaffarNagar, UP India > > Timezone: IST (-5:30) > > Latitude: 29N28 > > Longitude: 77E41 > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 22 > Vi 53 Hasta Mo Cn Su 1 Pi 15 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 > Sg 35 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 4 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 > Aq 43 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 44 Krittika Su Aq Ve > 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 > Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta > > > > > > > > Spouse: > > First job: Hired Aug 1999 (Joined on Jan 2000) > > This happened in Ra/Ra which acts like Ve and has the highest > points for 11th > > > > Marriage: Feb 2000 > > This is where I am getting some conflicts as far as the marriage > is concerned. if the asdt moves to Libra it makes more sense for > marriage to happens in Ra/Ra (SD - Venus) > > > > How sure are you about your wife's data? > > > > To move to the next asdt, it should be atleast 45 mins +. > > > > get back to me and then I will continue... > > > > Regards > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Dear Manoshi, I just saw your messages. Good question!. I just used Me to time the events as Ve is with C for B=12 th.Because of Me it happened in the first sector of Ve Bhukthi. I think for long distance travels we should also look for 9th house. If the move is related to work then we also should look at 6th/10th also. Hope this helps. Bala. Also look at the following email from Krushnaji to Dennis(this is in the archive). Dear Denis,Planets having less points in 12th house as B and also the FK weak (Lord of A), Person resides in foreign land or away from parents and family.This thing requires much detail explaination. Less points in 12th means person have to live away from his loved ones. It is compelsion. More points in 12th along with 11th, 2nd, 10th may have a meaning, that the person is living away on his own, and for better prosepects. The reason for living away must be ascertained first.Less points in 12th means away from mother land, imprisonment, etc. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Dear Bala, Yes Krushna ji's message says 'less points for 12th house'. look at this message from Margarita. " Hello, Look at the 3th house (12th from the 4th) for permanent relocation and also to the 12th house from lagna. Planets with low points in WS for the 12th house from lagna indicate " away from home " and planets with more points for the 112th from lagna can indicate " going back home " . Try to look at this together with other factors lakine for ex : When 4th lord is in the 3th = less family happiness, so this " could " indicate somebody who moves often also. The whole chart must be judged of course; these are only some factors to look at Best regards Margarita " regards Manoshi , bala sosale <bsosale> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > I just saw your messages. Good question!. > > I just used Me to time the events as Ve is with C for B=12 th.Because of Me it happened in > the first sector of Ve Bhukthi. > I think for long distance travels we should also look for 9th house. If the move is related to > work then we also should look at 6th/10th also. > > Hope this helps. > Bala. > > Also look at the following email from Krushnaji to Dennis(this is in the archive). > > Dear Denis, > Planets having less points in 12th house as B and also the FK > weak (Lord of A), Person resides in foreign land or away from parents > and family. > This thing requires much detail explaination. Less points in > 12th means person have to live away from his loved ones. It is > compelsion. More points in 12th along with 11th, 2nd, 10th may have a > meaning, that the person is living away on his own, and for better > prosepects. > The reason for living away must be ascertained first. > Less points in 12th means away from mother land, imprisonment, > etc. > krushna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dear Manoshi, Can you time the marraige for this chart? This is SD's wife's chart which he posted: Spouse: DOB: 14 March 1977TOB: 8:02 PMPOB: MuzaffarNagar, UP IndiaTimezone: IST (-5:30)Latitude: 29N28Longitude: 77E41 Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 22 Vi 53 Hasta Mo Cn Su 1 Pi 15 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 Sg 35 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 4 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 Aq 43 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 44 Krittika Su Aq Ve 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta As per SD Marriage happened in Feb 2000 and they started living together only in August 2000. I am not getting the timing properly. I am thinking this may be the rectified time. DOB: 14 March 1977TOB: 8:35PMPOB: MuzaffarNagar, UP IndiaTimezone: IST (-5:30)Latitude: 29N28Longitude: 77E41 Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 0 Li 4 Chitra Ma Li Su 1 Pi 16 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 Sg 54 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 5 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 Aq 45 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 45 Krittika Su Aq Ve 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta please post your analysis as you are good in marriage timing. Thanks Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dear Bala, I had timed the marriage but as you said, it doesnt match. There is complete delay by saturn and it is not checked by jupiter. Delay ends on 15th July 2002 when saturn goes to 0 deg Gemini. so, marriage cannot take place before that, but in reality it did. Now if you see carefully, 1st and 9th lord are in 3:11 in rasi and navamsa, so can it reduce delay? IT CAN but I am not too sure about the different conditions which go with it....but IF it can, then how much? let's time the marriage. Sun antra (May-1998 to Sept-1998) must have been very strong to give marriage, but it did not, may be due to the delay. Venus antra is not strong enough to give marriage, moon has high points but is not really connected to marriage planets that way..so now Rahu which gave marriage. Rahu will work like venus being SD but if that is the case why venus did not give the marriage itself? and why would Rahu give as venus? Venus is not strong to give marriage though it is here NK and FK. Can you confirm Scott, if your wife got sny strong proposals during the Sun antra? Even with rectified time, jupiter doesn't complete its delay when marriage took place (rectified time gives Jupiter delay as it is aspecting 2nd house in rasi and 7th lord in navamsa). It remains a puzzle for me. I would seek advice from Krushna ji in this case. regards Manoshi , bala sosale <bsosale> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > Can you time the marraige for this chart? This is SD's wife's chart which he posted: > > Spouse: > DOB: 14 March 1977 > TOB: 8:02 PM > POB: MuzaffarNagar, UP India > Timezone: IST (-5:30) > Latitude: 29N28 > Longitude: 77E41 > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 22 Vi 53 Hasta Mo Cn Su 1 Pi 15 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 Sg 35 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 4 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 Aq 43 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 44 Krittika Su Aq Ve 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta > > > As per SD Marriage happened in Feb 2000 and they started living together only in August > 2000. I am not getting the timing properly. > > > I am thinking this may be the rectified time. > > DOB: 14 March 1977 > TOB: 8:35PM > POB: MuzaffarNagar, UP India > Timezone: IST (-5:30) > Latitude: 29N28 > Longitude: 77E41 > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 0 Li 4 Chitra Ma Li Su 1 Pi 16 P.Bhadrapada Ju Cn Mo 28 Sg 54 U.Asadha Su Sg Ma 3 Aq 5 Dhanistha Ma Li Me 29 Aq 45 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge Ju 3 Ta 45 Krittika Su Aq Ve 1 Ar 52 Aswini Ke Ar SaR 17 Cn 59 Aslesha Me Sg Ra 3 Li 24 Chitra Ma Sc Ke 3 Ar 24 Aswini Ke Ta > > please post your analysis as you are good in marriage timing. > > Thanks > Bala > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dear Manoshi, For 8.02 PM ,I am not getting complete delay. As per my understanding, Sa is in House C and aspects LoA and Sa has a zero in 12th house. Marriage happened in 23rd year of the native. Sa when aspecting A, B and C will cause full delay. Am I missing something? Regards Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Dear Bala, you are right. I think there was another chart I mixed up with. Saturn is not effecting venus or 2nd house. so if there is no saturn delay then marriage should have taken place earllier. Sun antra seems to be the right time. but marriage took place in rahu antra...dont know...What are your views? sorry for any inconvenience. --Manoshi -- In , bala sosale <bsosale> wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > > For 8.02 PM ,I am not getting complete delay. > > As per my understanding, Sa is in House C and aspects LoA and Sa has a zero in 12th > house. Marriage happened in 23rd year of the native. > > Sa when aspecting A, B and C will cause full delay. > > Am I missing something? > > Regards > Bala > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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