Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dear Rajesh and Ash 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 house. 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 monnths). Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage. Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues. Thanks & Regards Sanjiva , " Rajesh M. Kumaria " <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences in > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look into > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive new > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar- > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash has > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from third > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened in > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the horoscope > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related interviews > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned i.e., > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate if > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that) > > , " sanjiva_sharma " > <sanjivasharma@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh. > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error. > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given > > below > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > significnat events of life: > > > > (i)Rajesh:-BS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector- > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) > > (India) > > > > Sanjiva:-BE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8).; > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6) > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > Graduation Degree > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5) > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is LOE > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & Mars > getting high points for all these three houses > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11) > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July 1989in > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10). > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > Jan1990, > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001. > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( Sector3, > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > ensured continuous employment from > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps) > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 IN > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005 > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non- > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > odd > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard to > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling > > for last three years or more..) > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in Sat- > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back to > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),. > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY > > > > (v) marriage date: > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0) > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11) > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( cONCEPTION > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)... > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-) > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > comments, why there is so difference in the " JOB Front " of both, > specifically in SAT-VEN period. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply some > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > say > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > times, > > > field of study. > > > > > > Then we can study each event. > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that you > can > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle. > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > give > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > sector it > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > Rajesh so > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > in > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > 7. > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > were > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has got > a > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise. > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart and > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > finding > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D charts > is > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you have > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors of > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. For > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > more > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic touch. > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > good > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > yourself > > > out of difficult situation. > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > life > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > and > > > then we can take each one and learn form it. > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about 10 > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is there > in > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > first > > > job and say environment around that time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sanjiva_sharma " > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > IDENTICAL " . > > > > The only difference is in MD. > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT mahadasha > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998. > > > > Now a few queries > > > > 1. Having " AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET " , results in various > antrdasha > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true? > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > to > > > 13 > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > job/earning) > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first sector > was > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > income. > > > > Whay this difference? > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > 200), > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin? > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given > below > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for " Comparison " & > > > > Explanation for various events. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > > > , " Rajesh M. > > > Kumaria " > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on my > own > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > Sept2005 > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > survive > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous physical > > > > efforts > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > such a > > > > job > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > financial > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > job. I > > > > will > > > > > appreciate > > > > > any further in sights in my chart. > > > > > Thanks and All the best > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > , Ash > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are very > > > good, > > > > I > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Rajesh M. Kumaria " rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > jyotish is > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > freely > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > mail > > > and > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > karakas > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO > > > > PLACE. > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > TIMES > > > AND > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > TOO. > > > > NO > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > RIGHT U > > > > CAN > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > is > > > > > Natural > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > karaka > > > > for > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for 2nd, > 9th, > > > > > 12th > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points for > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > desires > > > > to > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > houses > > > > > yet > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > same > > > > > time?? > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) then > > > only > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > looks > > > like > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > TIMING > > > OF > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > FLAVOUR > > > > OF > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > CHART > > > IF > > > > U > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT MATTER > AS > > > SA > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY FLAVOUR > OF > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS ARE > > > HIGH > > > > OR > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE TO > 10TH > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > NATURAL > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > WILL > > > > ALSO > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > 3RD > > > AND > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR 11TH. > SO > > > > ALL > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > THE > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH HOUSE > > > MEANS > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > SAY > > > MD > > > > OF > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > POINTS > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME IF > THE > > > > 1ST > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER IN > 10TH > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN ALSO > BE > > > JOB > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > ABLE > > > TO > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > HEALTH OR > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > SAY > > > > IF > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > CHART > > > > IS > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > ALSO > > > > MEAN > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > MATERNITIY > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > SHOWING > > > SOME > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > LIKE > > > > THAT > > > > > U CAN STUDY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points for > all > > > > > houses > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > transit > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? What > > > > should > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > ACTING. > > > > FOR > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > AND > > > THEN > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART (IF > I > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER FOR > 11TH > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > VENUS > > > > IS > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO ENHANCE > > > WORK > > > > OR > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA TO > GET > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS SHOWING > > > GOOD > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > ALSO > > > > GOOD > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > ALSO > > > > GOOD > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING OCCULT > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > WHERE U > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > SHORT > > > 6TH > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW 1ST > > > HOUSE > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC WHICH > WILL > > > > BE > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS THAT > > > THERE > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > MONEY > > > ON > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ? > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > YES, > > > > U > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE WITH > 0 > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR. > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > SECTOR > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > TO > > > OPEN > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > AUTHORITY > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN SOME > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > WHICH > > > > IS > > > > > OK IN TODAYS DAY AND AGE ESPECIALLY FOR CONSULTANTS WHO GO > TO > > > MANY > > > > > CLIENTS SO THERE IS A CHANGE IN PLACE OF WORK, BOSSES, EVEN > IF U > > > > ARE > > > > > INDEPENDENT THE CONTRACTING RATE CHANGES ETC. SO IT CAN BE > > > > > CONSIDERED A CHANGE IN JOB TOO. YES, HAD 11TH AND 2ND POINTS > > > BEEN > > > > > LOW ALSO THEN THIS WOULD MEAN MORE DIFFICULT TIME AS INCOME > ALSO > > > > > AFFECTS THEN IT COULD MEAN THAT PERSON IS NOT GETTING ANY > JOBS > > > OR > > > > > CONTRACTS AND EVEN IF HE IS GETTING THEN SOME PROBLEM IN > PAYMENT > > > > > ETC. THAT IS TO BE STUDIED BY ALL PLANETS AND POINTS AND SEE > > > > WHATS > > > > > HAPPENING IN ALL 12 HOUSE. > > > > > > > > > > > > SO COME SECOND SECTOR THE PROPER SECTOR WILL START BUT NOW > IN > > > > THE > > > > > FIRST SECTOR U CAN GET HAPPINESS FROM HOME, CHILDREN, WIFE > ETC > > > > WHICH > > > > > IS ALSO LIKE AN EVENT HAPPENING. YES, NOW THIS PART IS FOR > > > TIMING > > > > > THAT IS ABOVE. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOING DEEPER AND LET ME RE-EMPHASISE THAT THIS PORTION OF > > > > TRANSITS > > > > > IS NOT FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT SHANI AND GURU > > > > POINTS > > > > > ARE 7 IN THE FIRST SECTOR OF VENUS WHICH HAS LESS POWER FOR > 6TH > > > > AND > > > > > 10TH. SO IT HAS SOME MEANING. IT MEANS THAT IN SOME WAY OR > THE > > > > > OTHER U ARE NOT GETTING PROPER BREAK LIKE U FEEL THAT THAT > THE > > > > > ENVIRONMENT IS NOT CONDUSIVE TO YOU. SOMETIMES EVEN PROPER > > > > > SOLUTIONS DO NOT COME TO MIND, WHEN IN RETRO U LOOK BACK AND > > > > THINK.. > > > > > DAMN THAT ANSWER WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF EYES.. LIKE I STILL > COULD > > > > NOT > > > > > SEE IT.. KINDA FEELING... > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW COME SEPTEMBER 18TH, GURU WILL COME TO LAST DEGREE OF > > > VIRGO > > > > > AND THE EFFECTS OF 8 POINTS WILL START. SO SLOWLY BUT SURELY > > > > AFTER > > > > > 18TH SEPTEMBER THIGNS WILL START TO LOOK UP, MAYBE U ARE > JUST > > > > > READING THE PAPER AND U MIGHT COME ACROSS SOMETHING OR SOME > LEAD > > > > OR > > > > > MAYBE U MAY GET A PHONE CALL FROM SOME OLD FRIEND AND MAY > GET > > > MORE > > > > > LEADS WHO KNOWS.. BUT THINGS WILL START TO LOOK UP FOR U. > YOUR > > > > > ANTRA FOR INCOME IS POWERUL I.E. VENUS NOW JUST LOOK FOR > SHOTER > > > > TERM > > > > > CONTRACTS OR CONVERSELY U MAY GET SHORT TERM CONTRACTS OR > > > MULTIPLE > > > > > CHANGES TYPE JOBS WITH LESSER AUTHORITY THAT U ARE USED TO > BUT > > > > > INCOME WILL BE GOOD. SO NOW IN 2ND SECTOR OF VENUS COME > > > NOVEMBER > > > > > YOUR SA AND JU WILL ALSO HELP U .. AS THEY BECOME 8 AT THE > SAME > > > > TIME > > > > > THAT DELAY IN SECTOR IS ALSO OVER. > > > > > > > > > > > > I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AFTER NOVEMBER AND U > WILL > > > > FEEL > > > > > A REMARKABLE DIFFERENCE. PLEASE KEEP ME POSTED ON THIS > > > PREDICTION > > > > > OF MINE RAJESH AS THIS IS IMPORTANT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (iii) I saw some other charts where the planets had less > points > > > > > (less > > > > > > than 12 for 6th, 11th and 10th houses) but they had > > > continuously > > > > > > favorable jup+ saturn transits for 4/5 years and yet > cannot > > > get > > > > > > jobs. what does this mean?? What should they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES ANTRA IS MOST IMPORTANT. THAT GIVES TIMING, SA > AND > > > JU > > > > > TRANSIT POINTS ARE NOT USED FOR TIMING OF EVENT. IF U ARE > > > > STUDYING > > > > > TIMING OF EVENT, KEEP SA AND JU ASIDE. SA AND JU AND > TRANSITS > > > > ARE > > > > > USED FOR STUDYING ENVIRONMENT. > > > > > > > > > > > > THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAD LESS POWER FOR 6TH, 10TH, 11TH AND > > > 12TH > > > > > BUT HAD GOOD POWER OF SA AND JU THEN SOME HOW OR SOME FAMILY > OR > > > > > FRIENDS MAY HELP THEM THIS WAY OR THAT TO SUSTAIN. > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, TRANSITS OF SA AND JU > ETC > > > ARE > > > > > NOT USED FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know some answers but it would be refreshing to get your > > > view > > > > > > points since some times SAV points are ranging from 20 to > 48 > > > fro > > > > > > case (ii) above or transit points are ranging from 8 to 12 > in > > > > case > > > > > > (iii)...Please throw some more light on all this. I hope > to > > > get > > > > > > organized soon to understand KAS again...Sorry I am not > able > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > > clear vision thesedays to interpret any charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, SA AND JU ARE NOT HELPING U AND ALSO YOUR > DAILY > > > > > TRANSIT POITNS ARE IN THE RED OR SAY BELOW 196 RATHER EVEN > MUCH > > > > > BELOW 196, IN THEIR 180's. JUST HANG IN THERE ATLEAST SOME > > > > RELEIF > > > > > WILL COME AFTER 18TH SEPTEMBER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Rajesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rajan, > > > > > > > I have been through all your events and all are in lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > srajan52 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have allready done all that you had guided me to. I am > > > keen > > > > to > > > > > > know > > > > > > > that What is the chances of Settling down in a stable > Job > > > > > atleast > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the next 10-12 Years so that i can save enough for my > > > children > > > > > and > > > > > > > family. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally My marriage is one which has brought me a > Lot > > > of > > > > > > > happines with my wife bearing with my insability in > career > > > > with > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > of support and kindness. I have had extremely good times > > > both > > > > > with > > > > > > my > > > > > > > wife and children and enjoy tremdous support from all of > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife though has been suffering from one ailment or > the > > > > other > > > > > > over > > > > > > > the last two years. > > > > > > > When will this change? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : HOW DO U DEFINE HAPPY MARRIAGE ? AS PER KAS YOUR > > > > MARRIAGE > > > > > > IS IN LINE AND MATCHING. IF U CAST YOUR WIFES CHART AND > > > OVERLAP > > > > IT > > > > > > WITH YOURS SHANI AND RAHU WILL BE ASPECTING HER MARS AND > HER > > > > MARE > > > > > > YOUR VENUS. CAN U PLEASE VERIFY THIS AND GIVE YOUR > FEEBACK ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER THE RULES OF KAS YOUR LAGNA/7TH LORDS FROM LAGNA, > > > SUN, > > > > > MOON > > > > > > AND THEIR 7TH LORDS ARE IN 6:8, 2:12, 2:12. THIS IS > SHOWING > > > > > > DISAGREEMENTS AND DISPUTES. GURU IS IN LIBRA AND VENUS TO > SUN > > > > > > DISTANCE IS 45 DEGREES. 6TH LORD IN 4TH HOUSE. ALL THESE > LAWS > > > > ARE > > > > > > GIVEN IN THE LESSON. I HAVE GIVEN THE TIMING OF YOUR > MARRIAGE > > > IN > > > > A > > > > > > SCIENTIFIC WAY I.E .SOLVED IT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Mother though not critically ill is now in advanced > stage > > > > of > > > > > > > dementia and is becoming a health risk forherself with > > > toilet > > > > > > habits > > > > > > > deserting her and her contant urge to eat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How long will she suffer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : 6TH HOUSE FROM 3RD HOUSE (FOR MOTHER) IS HER > HEALTH. > > > IF > > > > U > > > > > > STUDY THE WS U WILL SEE THAT SINCE 2003/JULY SHE HAS BEGUN > > > > RUNNING > > > > > > SUN, NOW MOON AND NEXT IS MARS ANTRA. ALL HAVE WEAK POWER > FOR > > > > 8TH > > > > > > HOUSE. THIS CAN SHOW PERIOD OF ILLNESS. CHANCES OF > RECOVERY > > > ARE > > > > > > AFTER 2007/FEB IN RAHU ANTRA. RAHU IS SD TO VENUS. VENUS > HAS > > > > GOOD > > > > > > POWER FOR 8TH HOUSE (6TH FROM 3RD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For your info:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lost my father on 8 June 1998 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS PER KAS, THAT FALLS IN SA/ME. ME IS LOD FOR 4TH > > > HOUSE > > > > > AS > > > > > > B. (4TH HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 9TH). SO ITS IN LINE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My marriage was formally fixed exactly two month earlier > to > > > my > > > > > > > marriage ie 7/5/1982 though informal talks began in > April > > > 1982. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : OK THANKS FOR YOUR FEEBACK. SO IT WAS SHANI ANTRA > THAT > > > > > > STARTED THE MARRIAGE BUT MATERIALISED IN ME ANTRA AS SA > THE > > > > > > STRONGEST SIGNIFICATOR FOR MARRIAGE HAVING WEAKEST POINTS > > > COULD > > > > > NOT > > > > > > GIVE IT DUE TO MOST OF THE ANTRA BEING OVER SO IT ATLEAST > GAVE > > > > THE > > > > > > INTENT AND STARTED THE BALL ROLLING. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some points for your inputs:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Job: May 1981 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : JU/SA. SA HAS WEAK POWER FOR 6TH AND 10TH HOUSE. > SA IS > > > > SD > > > > > > TO MARS SO IT CAN GIVE A JOB BUT NO HAPPINESS OR A CHANGE > OR > > > > MIGHT > > > > > > GIVE TEMPORARY JOB. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Good Job(HCL) Feb 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THIS FALLS IN JU/ME. ME HAS WEAK POWER FOR 6TH BUT > > > GOOD > > > > > FOR > > > > > > 10TH AND 11TH AND MORE FOR 12TH. SO THIS CAN GIVE BUT I AM > > > > CURIOUS > > > > > > HERE TO KNOW IF U WERE IN PROBATION AND THE CONFIRMATION > MUST > > > > HAVE > > > > > > COME IN KETU ANTRA. KETU IS SD TO MARS. I.E. JUNE 1984. SO > IF > > > I > > > > > > WERE TO TIME YOUR GOOD JOB START IT WOULD BE KETU. UNLESS > > > THERE > > > > IS > > > > > > SOME DIFFERENCE IN TIME OF BIRTH. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Important assignment: Oct 1985 > > > > > > > First Major Promotion to field level Manager feb 1986 > > > > > > > First lack of employment:Oct 1986 > > > > > > > Good Job-Feb 1987 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : ALL THE ABOVE WERE IN VENUS ANTRA. VENUS IS 2ND > LORD > > > SO > > > > IT > > > > > > WILL GIVE U WORIES. VE IS SD TO MERCURY AND KARAK SUN. SO > IT > > > > WILL > > > > > > GIVE GOOD AUTHORITY AND CHANGE IN JOBS TOO. VE IS IN 10TH > > > HOUSE > > > > > > FROM 10TH AND ITS CONTROLLING 10TH HOUSE TOO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secon Lack of employment:- August 1988-Feb 1989 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SPANS SUN ANTRA. OBSERVE SUN CLOSELY. ITS HAVING > LESS > > > > > > POWER FOR 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE HERE. SO IT CAN GIVE CHANGE > IN > > > > > > EMPLOYMENT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Senior Managerial Job:August 1989 > > > > > > > Lost Job: September 1990 > > > > > > > Unemployed Sept 1990- November 1990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SPANS OVER MOON AND MARS. MOON IS IN 2ND HOUSE SO > WILL > > > > > GIVE > > > > > > WORRIES. AFTER THAT MARS IS LOD FOR JOB AND AUTHORITY SO > IT > > > WILL > > > > > > GIVE A JOB IN HIS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First All India Management Job:April 1991 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Higher Management Job- April 1993 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : JU/RA. RA IS SD TO VE. HAS GIVEN U GOOD AUTHORITY > IN > > > THE > > > > > > PAST TOO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Demotion/Setback-May 1993(Big Setback Disgraced > wrongfully) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AGAIN HERE THIS IS THE 4TH INSTANCE I FEEL THAT > THE > > > > > TIMINGS > > > > > > ARE OFF BY 2 MONTHS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME DIFFERNECEIN YOUR > > > BIRTH > > > > > > TIME. YOUR MARRIAGE TALKS AS PER U STARTED IN ME ANTRA. I > FEEL > > > > IT > > > > > > SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED IN SA ANTRA SO DIFFERENCE OF > ABOUT > > > 2 > > > > > > MONTHS. THEN YOUR FIRST MAJOR JOB AT HCL IS ALSO OFF BY > ABOUT > > > 2 > > > > > > MONTHS, THE GOOD AUTHORITY JOB THAT JUST STAREED IN JU/RA > I > > > FEEL > > > > > > THAT MA ANTRA WOULD GIVE THAT AND VE U MIGHT GET > PROMOTION. > > > HERE > > > > > > AGAIN ITS OFF BY 2 MONTHS OR THERE ABOUTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA ANTRA WILL GIVE U THE BIG SETBACK. ITS QUIET CLEAR > FROM > > > THE > > > > > > PONITS. SA IS WEAK FOR 2,3,4,5,6,7,10TH HOUSE. SA AGAIN IS > > > KARAK > > > > > > FOR 10TH HOUSE I.E. LOA. SO SA/SA WILL DEFINITELY BE > FOCUSSED > > > > > > W.R.T. AUTHORITY AMONTHS OTHER THINGS THAT ITS NK AND FK > FOR. > > > SA > > > > > IS > > > > > > FK FOR 10TH AND 11TH AND NK FOR 3RD AND 4TH. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Compromise Job:August 1993-July 1994 > > > > > > > Lost job because of difference with Management > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AGAIN IN SA/SA. SA IS SD TO MARS. MARS IS LOD SO > SA > > > WILL > > > > > > TRY TO GET JOBS BUT IT MAYBE INTERMETENT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very good Job Dec 1994 > > > > > > > Upward trend continued till Jan 1999 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SPANS SA/SA AND SA/ME. AGAIN I WOULD THINK U WOULD > GET > > > > > > BETTER AUTHORITY ONCE MERCURY ANTRA STARTED I.E. AFTER > > > 1996/JULY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Problems Started Mar 1999 and had to quit in July 1999 > > > > > > > No employment/Quasi employment till Nov 1999 > > > > > > > Very Good Period for 18 Month with both national and > > > > > Internatinal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: AGAIN SA/RA ANTRA. RA IS SD TO VE WHO IS 2ND LORD. > > > > WORRIES > > > > > > ETC BUT ALL THE POINTS FOR VE ARE HIGH SO U WILL GET > BETTER > > > JOB > > > > > AND > > > > > > AUTHORITY TOO BUT WITH WORRIES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recognition with first foriegn trip between Nov 1999 to > Nov > > > > 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SA/KETU ANTRA. KETU IS SD TO MARS. MARS IS LOD. SO > > > AGAIN > > > > > > THIS CONIRMS THAT 2 MONTH DIFF AS MARS IS WORKING IN YOUR > > > FAVOUR > > > > > AND > > > > > > GIVING U GOOD RECOGNITION AS ITS LOE FOR 10TH TOO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly sacked without any reason Nov 2001 > > > > > > > But immdtly employed the same day in Nov 2001 > > > > > > > Very bad period of no or little income due the companies > bad > > > > > atate > > > > > > > and left in July 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AGAIN ITS SA/VE ANTRA. 2ND LORD. 11TH HOUSE POINTS > ARE > > > > > LESS > > > > > > THAN 12TH. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GM-Head Operations India for a US Funded Software > Services > > > > > company > > > > > > > July 2002 > > > > > > > Very Succesful and became COO in Jan 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SA/VE ANTRA. VE IS GIVING U CHANGES BUT ITS MAKES > U GO > > > > > > UPWARDS. 2ND LORD AGAIN IT WILL GIVE BUT WITH WORRIES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 2003 Differences with One Director on Board who was > also > > > > > > > reporting to me as Tech Head > > > > > > > That led to quitting in Dec 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SA/SUN. AGAIN SUN HAS GIVEN U A BREAK. SUN IS WEAK > FOR > > > > 5TH > > > > > > HOUSE. 5TH IS KARAK FOR 10TH. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unemployed/quasi employed till Feb 2005 > > > > > > > Compromise job in Mar 2005 and physical separation from > > > family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : SA/MO. MO IN 2ND HOUSE AGAIN WORRIES BUT IT HAS > GOOD > > > > POWER > > > > > > FOR 6TH,5TH AND 10TH SO IT GIVES. BUT AGAIN WORRIES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IF U STUDY THE WS U CAN EASILY TIME THE EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > > ASH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and List Members, > > > > > > > > One more thing, antra running is that of Moon and moon > is > > > in > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > house with 6 bindus. So it will give more worries in > her > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > The mars over 0 points is not helping neither are sa > and > > > ju > > > > = > > > > > 5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This must be a tremendious period of worry. When > Jupiter > > > > moves > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > libra still your sa and ju points are 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just have patiences and let Mars leave aries. That > itself > > > > will > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > u feel better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next antra is that of Mars. Moon was in 2nd house with > 6 > > > > > bindus, > > > > > > > > wheareas Mars is SD to Shani (Mars in navamsa of > Shani) > > > who > > > > is > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > 2nd lord. So again there will be lesser worries come > next > > > > > antra, > > > > > > > > however after mars leaves aries thigns will improve at > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > sa and ju poitns go to 6 from 5 which is still not > more > > > than > > > > 8 > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > still upward trend. So better than now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, Ju in libra and in first 3deg20 and venus to > sun > > > > > distance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 43deg20 cant give a smooth marriage. Even u had late > > > > children. > > > > > > > > Even your 6th lord is in 4th house. These are given in > > > > lesson > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > u can download from Donnas website of file section on > this > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per your marriage timing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to > 1 > > > zero > > > > > in > > > > > > > SAV. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Ju in libra in rasi and navamsa (first 3deg20), > lagna > > > > and > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > lords in 6:8, Ve to sun distance > 43deg20, from moon > and > > > > sun > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 7th lords are in 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering above factors I can say there there is no > > > > > happiness > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > marriage or there will be some problems or the other > based > > > > on > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > asssessment lets compute your marriage timing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is not touching 11th house or 11th lord moon, so no > > > delay > > > > > due > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Sa. There is delay due to Mars as it has 1 zero in > SAV. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So legal age to marry is 21 and about 10% delay due to > > > Mars. > > > > > So > > > > > > > > delay gets over approximately 7th June 1981. This is > the > > > 3rd > > > > > > > sector > > > > > > > > of Shani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani is 6th lord and it has low power in the WS for > 7th > > > > > house. > > > > > > So > > > > > > > > Sa's antra is mostly over. Next antra is that of > Mercury. > > > > > > > > Mercury is totally spoilt by Shani. Shani is in 10th > place > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Mercury with less bindus and Mercury is in 4th place > from > > > > Sa. > > > > > > > > Thereby Shani totally controls Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since Shani is the most eager to give marrage as IT > HAS > > > > LOWEST > > > > > > > > POINTS IN WS, and his antra is nearly over, then it > will > > > > > depute > > > > > > > > Mercury to give the results as Me is powerful SD to > Shani > > > > and > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > has made this Mercury very malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So here mercury gave the result in his antra and in > 1st > > > > > sector. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > dont know when your marriage was fixed. It might be in > Sa > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > itself before 19th March 1982. Can u confirm this. It > will > > > > be > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for putting your chart as per my request and > > > giving > > > > > the > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > members a chance to study your chart. I had come > across > > > > your > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > on another list and had gone though it and found it > > > > > intersting > > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > for those wanting to study authority, finances, debt > and > > > > > > matters > > > > > > > > > related to career and finances and job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your chart also shows the effect of Guru in libra > and in > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > 3deg20 and effects of Venus to Sun distance of 45 > i.e. > > > > > greater > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > 43deg20.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For one, please download the KAS2005 program that > from > > > > > > > > > http://krushna.sageasita.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are using Krushnas Ayanamsa (KAY) on this list > and > > > > using > > > > > > > > Krushnas > > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga System (KAS). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please cast your chart in that and the degree of > planets > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Worksheet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also my suggestion is that you just do a simple > check > > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the periods u say u were in debt, check your 11th > and > > > 12th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > points and ofcourse your overall SAV points for 11th > and > > > > > 12th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now Ma is transitting your 8th hosue with 0 > points > > > > and > > > > > > > shani > > > > > > > > > and guru points are 5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will tell a tale. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " srajan52 " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Forgot to put planet Positions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajan > > > > > > > > > > May 2, 1958 4:30 PM -05:30 INT > > > > > > > > > > Calcutta, India Longitude: 88E22 Latitude: 22N32 > > > > > > > > > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:16 Current Period: SA/MO/JU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > Asc 28:04 Vir Chitra Ma > > > > > > > > > > Sun 18:15 Ari +00:58:11 FM Bharani Ve > > > > > > > > > > Moon 03:26 Lib +15:00:24 WK Chitra Ma > > > > > > > > > > Mars 10:39 Aqu +00:44:08 FM Shatbisha Ra > > > > > > > > > > Merc 26:54 Pis +00:10:20 WK Revati Me > > > > > > > > > > JuptR 01:37 Lib -00:07:05 WK Chitra Ma > > > > > > > > > > Ven 03:24 Pis +01:05:11 WK U.Bhadra Sa > > > > > > > > > > Sat R 01:49 Sag -00:02:32 FM Mula Ke > > > > > > > > > > Rahu 08:00 Lib +00:00:08 FM Swati Ra > > > > > > > > > > Ketu 08:00 Ari +00:00:08 FM Aswini Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 500 > beats > > > > > > > > > > Day: Friday Sunrise: 5:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Shukla Chaturdashi > > > > > > > > > > Yoga Pt: 25:01 Cp Yogi:Ma AviYogi:Ke Dup Yogi: Sa > > > > > > > > > > Dagha Rashis: Pis Gem Vir Sag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces. Here is my reasoning. 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward. For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less. So there is a big difference in Venus antra. 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva, With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV. So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house. So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius. In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius. For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra. The rest of events can be checked accordingly. This is my humble attempt. Cheers !!! Ash sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma wrote: Dear Rajesh and Ash1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 house.2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 monnths). Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC(Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.Thanks & RegardsSanjiva , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva> Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences in > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look into > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive new > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash has > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from third > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened in > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the horoscope > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related interviews > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned i.e., > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate if > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > , "sanjiva_sharma" > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > below> > > >> > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > >> > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > significnat events of life:> > > > (i)Rajesh:-BS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > (India)> > > > Sanjiva:-BE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8).; > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > Graduation Degree> > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is LOE > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & Mars > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July 1989in > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > Jan1990,> > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( Sector3, > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > ensured continuous employment from> > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 IN > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > odd> > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard to> > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > for last three years or more..)> > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in Sat- > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back to > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( cONCEPTION > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > Thanks.> > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > , "ashsam73" > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply some > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > say > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > times, > > > field of study.> > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that you > can > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > give > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > sector it > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > Rajesh so > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > in > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > 7. > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > were > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has got > a > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart and > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > finding > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D charts > is > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you have > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors of > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. For > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > more > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic touch. > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > good > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > yourself > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > life > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > and > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about 10 > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is there > in > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > first > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash,> > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT mahadasha > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > Now a few queries > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > antrdasha > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > to > > > 13 > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > job/earning) > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first sector > was > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > income. > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > 200), > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given > below> > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > Kumaria" > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on my > own > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > Sept2005 > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > survive > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous physical > > > > efforts > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > such a > > > > job > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > financial > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > job. I > > > > will > > > > > appreciate> > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > , Ash > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are very > > > good, > > > > I > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > jyotish is > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > freely > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > mail > > > and > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > karakas > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO > > > > PLACE. > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > TIMES > > > AND > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > TOO. > > > > NO > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > RIGHT U > > > > CAN > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > is > > > > > Natural > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > karaka > > > > for > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for 2nd, > 9th, > > > > > 12th > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points for > 6th > > > > and > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > desires > > > > to > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > houses > > > > > yet > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > same > > > > > time?? > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) then > > > only > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > looks > > > like > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > TIMING > > > OF > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > FLAVOUR > > > > OF > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > CHART > > > IF > > > > U > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT MATTER > AS > > > SA > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY FLAVOUR > OF > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS ARE > > > HIGH > > > > OR > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE TO > 10TH > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > NATURAL > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > WILL > > > > ALSO > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > 3RD > > > AND > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR 11TH. > SO > > > > ALL > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > THE > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH HOUSE > > > MEANS > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > SAY > > > MD > > > > OF > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > POINTS> > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME IF > THE > > > > 1ST > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER IN > 10TH > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN ALSO > BE > > > JOB > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > ABLE > > > TO > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > HEALTH OR > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > SAY > > > > IF > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > CHART > > > > IS > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > ALSO > > > > MEAN > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > MATERNITIY > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > SHOWING > > > SOME > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > LIKE > > > > THAT > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points for > all > > > > > houses > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > transit > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? What > > > > should > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > ACTING. > > > > FOR > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > AND > > > THEN > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART (IF > I > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER FOR > 11TH > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > VENUS > > > > IS > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO ENHANCE > > > WORK > > > > OR > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA TO > GET > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS SHOWING > > > GOOD > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > ALSO > > > > GOOD > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > ALSO > > > > GOOD > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING OCCULT > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > WHERE U > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > SHORT > > > 6TH > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW 1ST > > > HOUSE > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC WHICH > WILL > > > > BE > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS THAT > > > THERE > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > MONEY > > > ON > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > YES, > > > > U > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE WITH > 0 > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > SECTOR > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > TO > > > OPEN > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > AUTHORITY > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN SOME > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES === message truncated === Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Ash and Sanjiva Thanks for your efforts and wishing you all a happy new year, I think your analysis is quite logical here. Yes it looks like that Mr Sanjiva has Pisces lagna and that explains his financial sucess in Venus and Mercury antaras. Also Aquarius lagna in my case explains my struggles and failures in Mercury and Venus antaras.. I agree with that. Further Mr Sanjiva can verify whether income was less that expenses in previous Jupiter and Mars antaras. His verification will confirm the lagna. Any further thoughts when I will get a proper job in future? Thanks and All the best Rajesh Kumaria , Ash <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, > I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces. > Here is my reasoning. > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward. > > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less. > > So there is a big difference in Venus antra. > > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva, > > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV. > > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house. > > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius. > > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius. > > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra. > > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > This is my humble attempt. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma@g...> wrote: > Dear Rajesh and Ash > 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > house. > 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > monnths). > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC > (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage. > > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues. > Thanks & Regards > Sanjiva > , " Rajesh M. Kumaria " > wrote: > > > > Dear Sanjiva > > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > in > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > into > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > new > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar- > > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > has > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > third > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > in > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > horoscope > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > interviews > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > i.e., > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > if > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria > > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that) > > > > --- In , " sanjiva_sharma " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh. > > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error. > > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given > > > below > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > > > significnat events of life: > > > > > > (i)Rajesh:-BS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector- 1, > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector- > > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) > > > (India) > > > > > > Sanjiva:-BE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > 8).; > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6) > > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > Graduation Degree > > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5) > > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > LOE > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > Mars > > getting high points for all these three houses > > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11) > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10). > > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > Jan1990, > > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001. > > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > Sector3, > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and > > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > ensured continuous employment from > > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps) > > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > IN > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005 > > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non- > > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from > > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > odd > > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > to > > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling > > > for last three years or more..) > > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > Sat- > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > to > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),. > > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY > > > > > > (v) marriage date: > > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0) > > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11) > > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH > > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > cONCEPTION > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th > > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)... > > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-) > > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > comments, why there is so difference in the " JOB Front " of both, > > specifically in SAT-VEN period. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, > > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > some > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > say > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > times, > > > > field of study. > > > > > > > > Then we can study each event. > > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > you > > can > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle. > > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > give > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > sector it > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > Rajesh so > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > in > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > 7. > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > were > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > got > > a > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise. > > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > and > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > finding > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > charts > > is > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > have > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > of > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > For > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > more > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > touch. > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > good > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > yourself > > > > out of difficult situation. > > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > life > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > and > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it. > > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > 10 > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > there > > in > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > first > > > > job and say environment around that time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " sanjiva_sharma " > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > IDENTICAL " . > > > > > The only difference is in MD. > > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > mahadasha > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998. > > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > 1. Having " AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET " , results in various > > antrdasha > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true? > > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > to > > > > 13 > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > job/earning) > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > sector > > was > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > income. > > > > > Whay this difference? > > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > 200), > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin? > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > given > > below > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for " Comparison " & > > > > > Explanation for various events. > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > > > > > , " Rajesh M. > > > > Kumaria " > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > my > > own > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > survive > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > physical > > > > > efforts > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > such a > > > > > job > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > financial > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > job. I > > > > > will > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > any further in sights in my chart. > > > > > > Thanks and All the best > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > very > > > > good, > > > > > I > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Rajesh M. Kumaria " rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > jyotish is > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > freely > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > mail > > > > and > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > karakas > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > INTO > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > TIMES > > > > AND > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > TOO. > > > > > NO > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > RIGHT U > > > > > CAN > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > is > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > karaka > > > > > for > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > 2nd, > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > for > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > desires > > > > > to > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > houses > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > same > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > then > > > > only > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > TIMING > > > > OF > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > FLAVOUR > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > CHART > > > > IF > > > > > U > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > MATTER > > AS > > > > SA > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > FLAVOUR > > OF > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > ARE > > > > HIGH > > > > > OR > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > TO > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > WILL > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > 3RD > > > > AND > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > 11TH. > > SO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > THE > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > HOUSE > > > > MEANS > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > SAY > > > > MD > > > > > OF > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > POINTS > > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > IF > > THE > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > IN > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > ALSO > > BE > > > > JOB > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > ABLE > > > > TO > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > SAY > > > > > IF > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > CHART > > > > > IS > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > ALSO > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > SHOWING > > > > SOME > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > LIKE > > > > > THAT > > > > > > U CAN STUDY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > for > > all > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > What > > > > > should > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > ACTING. > > > > > FOR > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > AND > > > > THEN > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > (IF > > I > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > FOR > > 11TH > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > VENUS > > > > > IS > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > ENHANCE > > > > WORK > > > > > OR > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > TO > > GET > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > SHOWING > > > > GOOD > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > OCCULT > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > WHERE U > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > SHORT > > > > 6TH > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > 1ST > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > WHICH > > WILL > > > > > BE > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > THAT > > > > THERE > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > MONEY > > > > ON > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > YES, > > > > > U > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > WITH > > 0 > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > SECTOR > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > TO > > > > OPEN > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > SOME > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dear Rajesh, I feel that when Sun transits sign / nak of Ju and Sun Ju and Su 10-Jan 13-Jan Some chance may come up. Both are powerful for u for 6th, 10th and 11th. Good luck, Cheers !!! Ash , " Rajesh M. Kumaria " <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Ash and Sanjiva > Thanks for your efforts and wishing you all a happy new year, I > think your analysis is quite logical here. Yes it looks like that Mr > Sanjiva has Pisces lagna and that explains his financial sucess in > Venus and Mercury antaras. Also Aquarius lagna in my case explains > my struggles and failures in Mercury and Venus antaras.. I agree > with that. Further Mr Sanjiva can verify whether income was less > that expenses in previous Jupiter and Mars antaras. His verification > will confirm the lagna. Any further thoughts when I will get a > proper job in future? > Thanks and All the best > Rajesh Kumaria > > , Ash <ashsam73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, > > I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that > Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces. > > Here is my reasoning. > > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority > and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS > changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th > house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for > 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite > straight forward. > > > > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less. > > > > So there is a big difference in Venus antra. > > > > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva, > > > > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd > lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay > due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. > There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV. > > > > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th > house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is > delay. > > > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full > delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th > lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero > due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign > of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus > antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th > as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house. > > > > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of > Rajesh is Aquarius. > > > > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is > less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna > Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact > with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th > house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good > MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva > can be Pisces. > > > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's > lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius. > > > > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for > Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and > Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra. > > > > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > > > This is my humble attempt. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma@g...> wrote: > > Dear Rajesh and Ash > > 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet > for > > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job > realted > > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and > 10 > > house. > > 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) > while > > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs- 6.5 > > monnths). > > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC > > (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage. > > > > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues. > > Thanks & Regards > > Sanjiva > > , " Rajesh M. > Kumaria " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sanjiva > > > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > > in > > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > > into > > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > > new > > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various > antar- > > > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case (Ash > > has > > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th > house > > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, > while > > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > > third > > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > > in > > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from > those > > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) > and > > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > > horoscope > > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I > am > > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > > interviews > > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also > play > > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > > i.e., > > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good > candidate > > if > > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i > am > > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria > > > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took > me > > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that) > > > > > > --- In > , " sanjiva_sharma " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh. > > > > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / > Sa+Ju > > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error. > > > > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given > > > > below > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > > > > > significnat events of life: > > > > > > > > (i)Rajesh:-BS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector- > 1, > > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( > Sector- > > > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) > > > > (India) > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-BE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > > 8).; > > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6) > > > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > > Graduation Degree > > > > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5) > > > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > > LOE > > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > > Mars > > > getting high points for all these three houses > > > > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue > in > > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju- SAT > ( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > > 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10). > > > > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > > Jan1990, > > > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001. > > > > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector- 2, > > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July > 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10) > > > > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = > 8), > > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > > Sector3, > > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and > > > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these > changes > > > ensured continuous employment from > > > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps) > > > > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > > IN > > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such > non- > > > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT > from > > > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the > present > > > odd > > > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been > hard > > to > > > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still > struggling > > > > for last three years or more..) > > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)- in > > Sat- > > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came > back > > to > > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),. > > > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, > in > > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY > > > > > > > > (v) marriage date: > > > > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0) > > > > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11) > > > > > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH > > > > > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > > cONCEPTION > > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th > > > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)... > > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat- Ket-) > > > > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > > comments, why there is so difference in the " JOB Front " of both, > > > specifically in SAT-VEN period. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, > > > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > > some > > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other > significatnt > > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or > sibblings, > > > say > > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > > times, > > > > > field of study. > > > > > > > > > > Then we can study each event. > > > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > > you > > > can > > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle. > > > > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > > give > > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > > sector it > > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or > Sa > > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > > Rajesh so > > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance > at > > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i > beleive > > > in > > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have > been > > > 7. > > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > > were > > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > > got > > > a > > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to > go. > > > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > > and > > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > > finding > > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > > charts > > > is > > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > > have > > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more > sectors > > of > > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > > For > > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his > home > > > more > > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > > touch. > > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have > very > > > good > > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > > yourself > > > > > out of difficult situation. > > > > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold > your > > > life > > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life > will > > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study > the > > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events > properly > > > and > > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it. > > > > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get > about > > 10 > > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > > there > > > in > > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing > of > > > first > > > > > job and say environment around that time. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " sanjiva_sharma " > > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > > IDENTICAL " . > > > > > > The only difference is in MD. > > > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine > SAT > > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > > mahadasha > > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998. > > > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > > 1. Having " AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET " , results in various > > > antrdasha > > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true? > > > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov > 04 > > > to > > > > > 13 > > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > > job/earning) > > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > > sector > > > was > > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > > income. > > > > > > Whay this difference? > > > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in > April > > > 200), > > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin? > > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > > given > > > below > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:- > > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961 > > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at > > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:- > > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961 > > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at > > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for " Comparison " & > > > > > > Explanation for various events. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rajesh > M. > > > > > Kumaria " > > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback > on > > my > > > own > > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job > to > > > > > survive > > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > > physical > > > > > > efforts > > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue > on > > > such a > > > > > > job > > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job > in > > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > > financial > > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > > job. I > > > > > > will > > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > any further in sights in my chart. > > > > > > > Thanks and All the best > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > > very > > > > > good, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Rajesh M. Kumaria " rajeshkumaria2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash > > > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > > jyotish is > > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > > freely > > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw > this > > > mail > > > > > and > > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > > karakas > > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > > INTO > > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > > TIMES > > > > > AND > > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY > PEOPLE > > > TOO. > > > > > > NO > > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > > RIGHT U > > > > > > CAN > > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and > Venus > > > is > > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > > karaka > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > > 2nd, > > > 9th, > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > > for > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > > desires > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for > some > > > > > houses > > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at > the > > > same > > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > > then > > > > > only > > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > > looks > > > > > like > > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > > TIMING > > > > > OF > > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > > FLAVOUR > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > > CHART > > > > > IF > > > > > > U > > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > > MATTER > > > AS > > > > > SA > > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > > FLAVOUR > > > OF > > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > > ARE > > > > > HIGH > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > > TO > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN > IS > > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > > WILL > > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART > ITS > > > 3RD > > > > > AND > > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > > 11TH. > > > SO > > > > > > ALL > > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE > INTERPRETING > > > THE > > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > > HOUSE > > > > > MEANS > > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO > HERE > > > SAY > > > > > MD > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO > LESS > > > POINTS > > > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > > IF > > > THE > > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > > IN > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > > ALSO > > > BE > > > > > JOB > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT > BE > > > ABLE > > > > > TO > > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 > HOUSES. > > > SAY > > > > > > IF > > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY > THE > > > CHART > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT > COULD > > > ALSO > > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > > SHOWING > > > > > SOME > > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) > SO > > > LIKE > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > U CAN STUDY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > > for > > > all > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and > Saturn > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > > What > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > > ACTING. > > > > > > FOR > > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN > SECTOR > > > AND > > > > > THEN > > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > > (IF > > > I > > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > > FOR > > > 11TH > > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET > GOOD > > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM > HOME), > > > VENUS > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION > FROM > > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > > ENHANCE > > > > > WORK > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS > ANTRA > > TO > > > GET > > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > > SHOWING > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), > ITS > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO > AND > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > > OCCULT > > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > > WHERE U > > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > > SHORT > > > > > 6TH > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > > 1ST > > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > > WHICH > > > WILL > > > > > > BE > > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > > THAT > > > > > THERE > > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > > MONEY > > > > > ON > > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER > PDF > > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY > SHANI. > > > > > YES, > > > > > > U > > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > > WITH > > > 0 > > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN > THE > > > SECTOR > > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL > START > > > TO > > > > > OPEN > > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > > SOME > > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB > CHANGES > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos > > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, > holidays, whatever. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear Ash and Rajesh,I agree to you that in my SATURN MD,Mercury1987-Sep-051990-May-15 and Venus1991-Jun-241994-Aug-24 was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.Again in Mercury MDMercury2003-Sep-022006-Jan-29 is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.Mars1997-Mar-061998-Apr-15 period was worst.InJupiter2001-Feb-192003-Sep-02 There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well.But pl explain the following two points.1.Mercury2003-Sep-022006-Jan-29I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of 1987-Sep-051990-May-152. In Sat-SatSaturn1984-Sep-011987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points).Please, explain the aboveThanks and regardsSanjiva , Ash <ashsam73> wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> Here is my reasoning.> 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > This is my humble attempt.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Rajesh and Ash> 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > house.> 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > monnths). > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> Thanks & Regards> Sanjiva> , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva> > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > in > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > into > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > new > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > has > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > third > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > in > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > horoscope > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > interviews > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > i.e., > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > if > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > below> > > > >> > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > >> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > (India)> > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > 8).; > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > LOE > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > Mars > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > Jan1990,> > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > Sector3, > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > ensured continuous employment from> > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > IN > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > odd> > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > to> > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > Sat- > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > to > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > cONCEPTION > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > some > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > say > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > times, > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > you > > can > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > give > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > sector it > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > Rajesh so > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > in > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > 7. > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > were > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > got > > a > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > and > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > finding > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > charts > > is > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > have > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > of > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > For > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > more > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > touch. > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > good > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > yourself > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > life > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > and > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > 10 > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > there > > in > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > first > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > mahadasha > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > antrdasha > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > to > > > > 13 > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > job/earning) > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > sector > > was > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > income. > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > 200), > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > given > > below> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > my > > own > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > survive > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > physical > > > > > efforts > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > such a > > > > > job > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > financial > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > job. I > > > > > will > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > , Ash > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > very > > > > good, > > > > > I > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > jyotish is > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > freely > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > mail > > > > and > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > karakas > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > INTO > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > TIMES > > > > AND > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > TOO. > > > > > NO > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > RIGHT U > > > > > CAN > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > is > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > karaka > > > > > for > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > 2nd, > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > for > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > desires > > > > > to > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > houses > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > same > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > then > > > > only > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > TIMING > > > > OF > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > FLAVOUR > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > CHART > > > > IF > > > > > U > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > MATTER > > AS > > > > SA > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > FLAVOUR > > OF > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > ARE > > > > HIGH > > > > > OR > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > TO > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > WILL > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > 3RD > > > > AND > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > 11TH. > > SO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > THE > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > HOUSE > > > > MEANS > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > SAY > > > > MD > > > > > OF > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > POINTS> > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > IF > > THE > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > IN > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > ALSO > > BE > > > > JOB > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > ABLE > > > > TO > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > SAY > > > > > IF > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > CHART > > > > > IS > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > ALSO > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > SHOWING > > > > SOME > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > LIKE > > > > > THAT > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > for > > all > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > What > > > > > should > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > ACTING. > > > > > FOR > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > AND > > > > THEN > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > (IF > > I > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > FOR > > 11TH > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > VENUS > > > > > IS > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > ENHANCE > > > > WORK > > > > > OR > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > TO > > GET > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > SHOWING > > > > GOOD > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > OCCULT > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > WHERE U > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > SHORT > > > > 6TH > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > 1ST > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > WHICH > > WILL > > > > > BE > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > THAT > > > > THERE > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > MONEY > > > > ON > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > YES, > > > > > U > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > WITH > > 0 > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > SECTOR > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > TO > > > > OPEN > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > SOME > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Photos> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, I do not have your charts in front of me but just to make a quick point but from what u wrote in your mail, Sanjiva, u were together with your wife despite disagreements or say not seeing eye to eye on issues the marriage did not break. If this chart came to you blindly, with high points of 22 in Me antra would u have said or predicted that marriage would break, (assuming that themarriage did not happen in low points?). As to why there were discords, I will need to have the chart in front of me to study deeper. About your second point on Sa and having high MF. MF again is for quality and not timing. If your question is w.r.t. timing of getting a job etc then that I am sure u can time. Now, say your career giving planets are say Mars and Saturn and say u are giving some exam for something that is not related to your career or its not somewhere u will perform best, in that case it might be better that u did not pass that exam for whatever reason. It reminds me of a chart I did, I beleive it was on this list itself where someone had said that he was taken off a very good project in strongest poitns period for 6th house and he was very dissapointed. How come that happened. It so happened that that project went ahead and was scapped I beleive. Now did that strong planet protect him by taking him off the project at the cost of the gentleman feeling bad or was it a bad thing ? Its all a matter of preception I guess. But if you were together with your wife in Me antra with 22 points and if u did well in Sa antra in Job then its in line with KAS. Cheers !!! Ash sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma wrote: Dear Ash and Rajesh, I agree to you that in my SATURN MD, Mercury 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 and Venus 1991-Jun-24 1994-Aug-24 was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Again in Mercury MD Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Mars 1997-Mar-06 1998-Apr-15 period was worst. In Jupiter 2001-Feb-19 2003-Sep-02 There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well. But pl explain the following two points. 1. Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 2. In Sat-Sat Saturn 1984-Sep-01 1987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points). Please, explain the above Thanks and regards Sanjiva , Ash <ashsam73> wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> Here is my reasoning.> 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > This is my humble attempt.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Rajesh and Ash> 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > house.> 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > monnths). > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> Thanks & Regards> Sanjiva> , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva> > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > in > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > into > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > new > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > has > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > third > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > in > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > horoscope > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > interviews > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > i.e., > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > if > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > below> > > > >> > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > >> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > (India)> > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > 8).; > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > LOE > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > Mars > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > Jan1990,> > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > Sector3, > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > ensured continuous employment from> > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > IN > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > odd> > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > to> > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > Sat- > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > to > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > cONCEPTION > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > some > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > say > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > times, > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > you > > can > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > give > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > sector it > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > Rajesh so > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > in > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > 7. > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > were > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > got > > a > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > and > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > finding > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > charts > > is > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > have > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > of > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > For > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > more > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > touch. > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > good > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > yourself > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > life > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > and > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > 10 > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > there > > in > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > first > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > mahadasha > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > antrdasha > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > to > > > > 13 > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > job/earning) > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > sector > > was > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > income. > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > 200), > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > given > > below> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > my > > own > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > survive > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > physical > > > > > efforts > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > such a > > > > > job > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > financial > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > job. I > > > > > will > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > , Ash > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > very > > > > good, > > > > > I > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > jyotish is > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > freely > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > mail > > > > and > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > karakas > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > INTO > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > TIMES > > > > AND > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > TOO. > > > > > NO > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > RIGHT U > > > > > CAN > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > is > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > karaka > > > > > for > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > 2nd, > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > for > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > desires > > > > > to > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > houses > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > same > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > then > > > > only > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > TIMING > > > > OF > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > FLAVOUR > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > CHART > > > > IF > > > > > U > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > MATTER > > AS > > > > SA > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > FLAVOUR > > OF > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > ARE > > > > HIGH > > > > > OR > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > TO > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > WILL > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > 3RD > > > > AND > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > 11TH. > > SO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > THE > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > HOUSE > > > > MEANS > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > SAY > > > > MD > > > > > OF > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > POINTS> > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > IF > > THE > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > IN > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > ALSO > > BE > > > > JOB > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > ABLE > > > > TO > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > SAY > > > > > IF > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > CHART > > > > > IS > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > ALSO > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > SHOWING > > > > SOME > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > LIKE > > > > > THAT > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > for > > all > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > What > > > > > should > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > ACTING. > > > > > FOR > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > AND > > > > THEN > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > (IF > > I > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > FOR > > 11TH > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > VENUS > > > > > IS > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > ENHANCE > > > > WORK > > > > > OR > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > TO > > GET > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > SHOWING > > > > GOOD > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > OCCULT > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > WHERE U > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > SHORT > > > > 6TH > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > 1ST > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > WHICH > > WILL > > > > > BE > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > THAT > > > > THERE > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > MONEY > > > > ON > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > YES, > > > > > U > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > WITH > > 0 > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > SECTOR > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > TO > > > > OPEN > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > SOME > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Photos> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear Krushnaji and Sanjiva, Thank you Krushnaji for guiding me on Sanjiva's chart. Yes, Sanjiva, Me is your 6th lord with Pisces lagna (12th from 7th). So if there are disputes then it must mean that Mercury is acting more like 6th lord (12th from B). Somehow I missed that, ofcourse when Krushnaji steps in, it makes all this seem so easy lol... Thanks and Pranam Krushnaji. Cheers !!! AshAsh <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, I do not have your charts in front of me but just to make a quick point but from what u wrote in your mail, Sanjiva, u were together with your wife despite disagreements or say not seeing eye to eye on issues the marriage did not break. If this chart came to you blindly, with high points of 22 in Me antra would u have said or predicted that marriage would break, (assuming that themarriage did not happen in low points?). As to why there were discords, I will need to have the chart in front of me to study deeper. About your second point on Sa and having high MF. MF again is for quality and not timing. If your question is w.r.t. timing of getting a job etc then that I am sure u can time. Now, say your career giving planets are say Mars and Saturn and say u are giving some exam for something that is not related to your career or its not somewhere u will perform best, in that case it might be better that u did not pass that exam for whatever reason. It reminds me of a chart I did, I beleive it was on this list itself where someone had said that he was taken off a very good project in strongest poitns period for 6th house and he was very dissapointed. How come that happened. It so happened that that project went ahead and was scapped I beleive. Now did that strong planet protect him by taking him off the project at the cost of the gentleman feeling bad or was it a bad thing ? Its all a matter of preception I guess. But if you were together with your wife in Me antra with 22 points and if u did well in Sa antra in Job then its in line with KAS. Cheers !!! Ash sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma wrote: Dear Ash and Rajesh, I agree to you that in my SATURN MD, Mercury 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 and Venus 1991-Jun-24 1994-Aug-24 was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Again in Mercury MD Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Mars 1997-Mar-06 1998-Apr-15 period was worst. In Jupiter 2001-Feb-19 2003-Sep-02 There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well. But pl explain the following two points. 1. Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 2. In Sat-Sat Saturn 1984-Sep-01 1987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points). Please, explain the above Thanks and regards Sanjiva , Ash <ashsam73> wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> Here is my reasoning.> 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > This is my humble attempt.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Rajesh and Ash> 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > house.> 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > monnths). > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> Thanks & Regards> Sanjiva> , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva> > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > in > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > into > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > new > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > has > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > third > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > in > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > horoscope > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > interviews > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > i.e., > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > if > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > below> > > > >> > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > >> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > (India)> > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > 8).; > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > LOE > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > Mars > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > Jan1990,> > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > Sector3, > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > ensured continuous employment from> > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > IN > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > odd> > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > to> > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > Sat- > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > to > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > cONCEPTION > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > some > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > say > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > times, > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > you > > can > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > give > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > sector it > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > Rajesh so > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > in > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > 7. > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > were > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > got > > a > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > and > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > finding > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > charts > > is > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > have > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > of > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > For > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > more > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > touch. > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > good > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > yourself > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > life > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > and > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > 10 > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > there > > in > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > first > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > mahadasha > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > antrdasha > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > to > > > > 13 > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > job/earning) > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > sector > > was > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > income. > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > 200), > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > given > > below> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > my > > own > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > survive > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > physical > > > > > efforts > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > such a > > > > > job > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > financial > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > job. I > > > > > will > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > , Ash > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > very > > > > good, > > > > > I > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > jyotish is > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > freely > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > mail > > > > and > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > karakas > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > INTO > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > TIMES > > > > AND > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > TOO. > > > > > NO > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > RIGHT U > > > > > CAN > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > is > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > karaka > > > > > for > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > 2nd, > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > for > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > desires > > > > > to > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > houses > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > same > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > then > > > > only > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > TIMING > > > > OF > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > FLAVOUR > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > CHART > > > > IF > > > > > U > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > MATTER > > AS > > > > SA > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > FLAVOUR > > OF > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > ARE > > > > HIGH > > > > > OR > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > TO > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > WILL > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > 3RD > > > > AND > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > 11TH. > > SO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > THE > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > HOUSE > > > > MEANS > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > SAY > > > > MD > > > > > OF > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > POINTS> > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > IF > > THE > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > IN > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > ALSO > > BE > > > > JOB > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > ABLE > > > > TO > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > SAY > > > > > IF > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > CHART > > > > > IS > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > ALSO > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > SHOWING > > > > SOME > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > LIKE > > > > > THAT > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > for > > all > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > What > > > > > should > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > ACTING. > > > > > FOR > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > AND > > > > THEN > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > (IF > > I > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > FOR > > 11TH > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > VENUS > > > > > IS > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > ENHANCE > > > > WORK > > > > > OR > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > TO > > GET > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > SHOWING > > > > GOOD > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > OCCULT > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > WHERE U > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > SHORT > > > > 6TH > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > 1ST > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > WHICH > > WILL > > > > > BE > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > THAT > > > > THERE > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > MONEY > > > > ON > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > YES, > > > > > U > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > WITH > > 0 > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > SECTOR > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > TO > > > > OPEN > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > SOME > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Photos> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, My appologies. I was in haste when I wrote this reply. For pisces lagna 6th lord is not mercury. But what I have written is valid for charts where such a case exists i.e. 6th lords antra etc. Now Sanjiva, your lagna and 7th lords are in 6:8. So its showing less harmony between husband and wife. That is given in lesson. Even tention might be more in Mars and Sun antra w.r.t. discord between u and your wife but in one way they are shorter periods but more intense. I appologise for the confusion. Cheers !!! Ash Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh, I do not have your charts in front of me but just to make a quick point but from what u wrote in your mail, Sanjiva, u were together with your wife despite disagreements or say not seeing eye to eye on issues the marriage did not break. If this chart came to you blindly, with high points of 22 in Me antra would u have said or predicted that marriage would break, (assuming that themarriage did not happen in low points?). As to why there were discords, I will need to have the chart in front of me to study deeper. About your second point on Sa and having high MF. MF again is for quality and not timing. If your question is w.r.t. timing of getting a job etc then that I am sure u can time. Now, say your career giving planets are say Mars and Saturn and say u are giving some exam for something that is not related to your career or its not somewhere u will perform best, in that case it might be better that u did not pass that exam for whatever reason. It reminds me of a chart I did, I beleive it was on this list itself where someone had said that he was taken off a very good project in strongest poitns period for 6th house and he was very dissapointed. How come that happened. It so happened that that project went ahead and was scapped I beleive. Now did that strong planet protect him by taking him off the project at the cost of the gentleman feeling bad or was it a bad thing ? Its all a matter of preception I guess. But if you were together with your wife in Me antra with 22 points and if u did well in Sa antra in Job then its in line with KAS. Cheers !!! Ash sanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma wrote: Dear Ash and Rajesh, I agree to you that in my SATURN MD, Mercury 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 and Venus 1991-Jun-24 1994-Aug-24 was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Again in Mercury MD Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains. Mars 1997-Mar-06 1998-Apr-15 period was worst. In Jupiter 2001-Feb-19 2003-Sep-02 There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well. But pl explain the following two points. 1. Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29 I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 2. In Sat-Sat Saturn 1984-Sep-01 1987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points). Please, explain the above Thanks and regards Sanjiva , Ash <ashsam73> wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> Here is my reasoning.> 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > This is my humble attempt.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Rajesh and Ash> 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > house.> 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > monnths). > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> Thanks & Regards> Sanjiva> , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva> > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > in > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > into > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > new > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > has > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > third > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > in > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > horoscope > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > interviews > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > i.e., > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > if > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > below> > > > >> > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > >> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > (India)> > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > 8).; > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > LOE > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > Mars > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > Jan1990,> > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > Sector3, > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > ensured continuous employment from> > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > IN > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > odd> > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > to> > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > Sat- > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > to > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > cONCEPTION > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > some > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > say > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > times, > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > you > > can > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > give > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > sector it > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > Rajesh so > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > in > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > 7. > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > were > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > got > > a > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > and > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > finding > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > charts > > is > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > have > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > of > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > For > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > more > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > touch. > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > good > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > yourself > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > life > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > and > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > 10 > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > there > > in > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > first > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > mahadasha > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > antrdasha > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > to > > > > 13 > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > job/earning) > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > sector > > was > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > income. > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > 200), > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > given > > below> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > my > > own > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > survive > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > physical > > > > > efforts > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > such a > > > > > job > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > financial > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > job. I > > > > > will > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > , Ash > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > very > > > > good, > > > > > I > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > jyotish is > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > freely > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > mail > > > > and > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > karakas > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > INTO > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > TIMES > > > > AND > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > TOO. > > > > > NO > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > RIGHT U > > > > > CAN > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > is > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > karaka > > > > > for > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > 2nd, > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > for > > 6th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > desires > > > > > to > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > houses > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > same > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > then > > > > only > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > TIMING > > > > OF > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > FLAVOUR > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > CHART > > > > IF > > > > > U > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > MATTER > > AS > > > > SA > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > FLAVOUR > > OF > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > ARE > > > > HIGH > > > > > OR > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > TO > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > WILL > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > 3RD > > > > AND > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > 11TH. > > SO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > THE > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > HOUSE > > > > MEANS > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > SAY > > > > MD > > > > > OF > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > POINTS> > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > IF > > THE > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > IN > > 10TH > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > ALSO > > BE > > > > JOB > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > ABLE > > > > TO > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > SAY > > > > > IF > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > CHART > > > > > IS > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > ALSO > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > SHOWING > > > > SOME > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > LIKE > > > > > THAT > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > for > > all > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > What > > > > > should > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > ACTING. > > > > > FOR > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > AND > > > > THEN > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > (IF > > I > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > FOR > > 11TH > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > VENUS > > > > > IS > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > ENHANCE > > > > WORK > > > > > OR > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > TO > > GET > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > SHOWING > > > > GOOD > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > ALSO > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > OCCULT > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > WHERE U > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > SHORT > > > > 6TH > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > 1ST > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > WHICH > > WILL > > > > > BE > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > THAT > > > > THERE > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > MONEY > > > > ON > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > YES, > > > > > U > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > WITH > > 0 > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > SECTOR > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > TO > > > > OPEN > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > SOME > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Photos> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dear Ash,Pl find my comments on your reasoning of Pisces Lagan in RED Colour. Pl guide and advise,as I am still in the process of learningAsh's reasoning for Pisces Lagna> > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.Sanjiva's for Aquarius Lagna1.Ve has 10 points for 6th, and 11 points for 10th house( a change of Ke(SD to Sa) - 15 points for6th, and 16 points for 10th house. Therfore, VE brought a change in the job. But, being LoE( with 6 bindus situated in E) for 11th house as B, with 26 points generated good income as well. Moreover, VENUS, being LOD ( for 7th-28 points & 12th - 19 points, houses as B) and being LOE ( for 4th-25 points houses as B) brought ALL-ROUND happiness2. Me has 20 points for 8th, and 16 points for 11 th house, and being LoD ( with 6 bindus situated in D)for 8th House as B, intitiated me to study the JYOTISH- an Occult Science, and being LoD for 11 th house ( with 6 bindus situated in D), gave a good income. As 7 th house have 11 points, it did not give good tuning with wife. Sa ( SD to Me) being LoE can give this result. 3. Ma Antra was not Good as it has low points for many houses, e.g. 2H-9 points,4-10points; 8house -9 points,9h-9 points,and 12 H-7 points.4. For Job/Occupation :- 10th lord from lagna & Sun is Mars who is in Venus Navamsa, 10th lord from Moon is MOON, who is in Sat navamsa, Therfore, job should be related to Mars-Venus- Sat. I am an Civil Engineer(Mar-Sat) working with Water(Moon for liquid) and Sanitation( Sa) Construction work(Mar/Sat)For Pisces Lagna - 10 th lord from Lagna, Sun and Moon are Jup, Mars and Moon, who are in Mar, Ven, and Sat navamsa. It matches for both Lagna - Aq & Pis.5. Lagna Lord and 9th Lord for Pisces lagan are Ju: Ma, who are in 6:8, which is not true as Me and My father are in good wavelength always., while for Aq lagna, they are Sa:Ve, and are in 5:9 p[osition6. For Aq Lagna, lagna lord is in 12th house. It justifies the liveyhood in foreign land. But for Pisces lagna, no justification came to me.Dear Ash, please comment on these points.Thanks and regardsSanjivawith high points of 22 in Me antra would u have said or predicted that marriage would break, (assuming that themarriage did not happen in low points?). As to why there were discords, I will need to have the chart in front of me to study deeper. > > > About your second point on Sa and having high MF. MF again is for quality and not timing. If your question is w.r.t. timing of getting a job etc then that I am sure u can time. Now, say your career giving planets are say Mars and Saturn and say u are giving some exam for something that is not related to your career or its not somewhere u will perform best, in that case it might be better that u did not pass that exam for whatever reason. > > It reminds me of a chart I did, I beleive it was on this list itself where someone had said that he was taken off a very good project in strongest poitns period for 6th house and he was very dissapointed. How come that happened. > It so happened that that project went ahead and was scapped I beleive.> > Now did that strong planet protect him by taking him off the project at the cost of the gentleman feeling bad or was it a bad thing ?> > Its all a matter of preception I guess.> > But if you were together with your wife in Me antra with 22 points and if u did well in Sa antra in Job then its in line with KAS.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Ash and Rajesh,> I agree to you that in my SATURN MD,> Mercury 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 and > Venus 1991-Jun-24 1994-Aug-24> was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.> Again in Mercury MD> Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29> is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.> Mars 1997-Mar-06 1998-Apr-15> period was worst.> In> Jupiter 2001-Feb-19 2003-Sep-02> There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well.> But pl explain the following two points.> 1.> Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29> I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of > 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15> 2. In Sat-Sat Saturn 1984-Sep-01 1987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points).> Please, explain the above> Thanks and regards> Sanjiva> > , Ash ashsam73 wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> > Here is my reasoning.> > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > > > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > > > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > > > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > > > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > > > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > > > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > > > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > > > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > > > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > > > This is my humble attempt.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > Dear Rajesh and Ash> > 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > > house.> > 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > > monnths). > > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> > (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > > > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> > Thanks & Regards> > Sanjiva> > , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sanjiva> > > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > > in > > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > > into > > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > > new > > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > > has > > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > > third > > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > > in > > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > > horoscope > > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > > interviews > > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > > i.e., > > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > > if > > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > > below> > > > > >> > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > >> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > (India)> > > > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > > 8).; > > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > > LOE > > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > > Mars > > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > > 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > > Jan1990,> > > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > > Sector3, > > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > > ensured continuous employment from> > > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > > IN > > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > > odd> > > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > > to> > > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > > Sat- > > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > > to > > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > > cONCEPTION > > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > > some > > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > > say > > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > > times, > > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > > you > > > can > > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > > give > > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > > sector it > > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > > Rajesh so > > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > > in > > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > > 7. > > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > > were > > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > > got > > > a > > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > > and > > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > > finding > > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > > charts > > > is > > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > > have > > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > > of > > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > > For > > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > > more > > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > > touch. > > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > > good > > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > > yourself > > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > > life > > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > > and > > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > > 10 > > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > > there > > > in > > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > > first > > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > > mahadasha > > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > > antrdasha > > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > > to > > > > > 13 > > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > > job/earning) > > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > > sector > > > was > > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > > income. > > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > > 200), > > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > > given > > > below> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > > my > > > own > > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > > survive > > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > > physical > > > > > > efforts > > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > > such a > > > > > > job > > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > > financial > > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > > job. I > > > > > > will > > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > > very > > > > > good, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > > jyotish is > > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > > freely > > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > > mail > > > > > and > > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > > karakas > > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > > INTO > > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > > TIMES > > > > > AND > > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > > TOO. > > > > > > NO > > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > > RIGHT U > > > > > > CAN > > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > > is > > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > > karaka > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > > 2nd, > > > 9th, > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > > for > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > > desires > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > > houses > > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > > same > > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > > then > > > > > only > > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > > looks > > > > > like > > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > > TIMING > > > > > OF > > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > > FLAVOUR > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > > CHART > > > > > IF > > > > > > U > > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > > MATTER > > > AS > > > > > SA > > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > > FLAVOUR > > > OF > > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > > ARE > > > > > HIGH > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > > TO > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > > WILL > > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > > 3RD > > > > > AND > > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > > 11TH. > > > SO > > > > > > ALL > > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > > THE > > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > > HOUSE > > > > > MEANS > > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > > SAY > > > > > MD > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > > POINTS> > > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > > IF > > > THE > > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > > IN > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > > ALSO > > > BE > > > > > JOB > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > > ABLE > > > > > TO > > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > > SAY > > > > > > IF > > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > > CHART > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > > ALSO > > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > > SHOWING > > > > > SOME > > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > > LIKE > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > > for > > > all > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > > What > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > > ACTING. > > > > > > FOR > > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > > AND > > > > > THEN > > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > > (IF > > > I > > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > > FOR > > > 11TH > > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > > VENUS > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > > ENHANCE > > > > > WORK > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > > TO > > > GET > > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > > SHOWING > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > > OCCULT > > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > > WHERE U > > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > > SHORT > > > > > 6TH > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > > 1ST > > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > > WHICH > > > WILL > > > > > > BE > > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > > THAT > > > > > THERE > > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > > MONEY > > > > > ON > > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > > YES, > > > > > > U > > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > > WITH > > > 0 > > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > > SECTOR > > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > > TO > > > > > OPEN > > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > > SOME > > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos> > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> >> > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dear Sanjiva, Lagna and 9th lords being in 6:8 can also show living away from father so less happiness When lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 then marriage can be at early age due to blessing. For Job, Ve's direct points are more. You also mentioned that u had good authority in Ve antra. With Aquarius lagna its showing less direct power in these house i.e 6th and 10th. SD's may help but direct power is less so there will be less happiness which is not in your case. I do not have your chart in front of me at this moment but verify all timings i.e say your education, timing of jobs, promotions etc and then you can decide for yourself. Even make a prediction for future with both lagnas and see the result. With Aquarius lagna, Guru is 2nd lord and with Pisces lagna Mars is 2nd lord. Check these antra on which one might cause more worries. If you have 0 power in a house, check tr of Sa and Ma over that and check from which area of life problems or worries came in etc. I think you have got good understanding and grasp of KAS now that you can test these things on many many charts and get confidence. In my opinion KAS makes timing of events easy. Cheers !!! Ashsanjiva_sharma <sanjivasharma wrote: Dear Ash, Pl find my comments on your reasoning of Pisces Lagan in RED Colour. Pl guide and advise,as I am still in the process of learning Ash's reasoning for Pisces Lagna> > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward. Sanjiva's for Aquarius Lagna 1.Ve has 10 points for 6th, and 11 points for 10th house( a change of Ke(SD to Sa) - 15 points for6th, and 16 points for 10th house. Therfore, VE brought a change in the job. But, being LoE( with 6 bindus situated in E) for 11th house as B, with 26 points generated good income as well. Moreover, VENUS, being LOD ( for 7th-28 points & 12th - 19 points, houses as B) and being LOE ( for 4th-25 points houses as B) brought ALL-ROUND happiness2. Me has 20 points for 8th, and 16 points for 11 th house, and being LoD ( with 6 bindus situated in D)for 8th House as B, intitiated me to study the JYOTISH- an Occult Science, and being LoD for 11 th house ( with 6 bindus situated in D), gave a good income. As 7 th house have 11 points, it did not give good tuning with wife. Sa ( SD to Me) being LoE can give this result. 3. Ma Antra was not Good as it has low points for many houses, e.g. 2H-9 points,4-10points; 8house -9 points,9h-9 points,and 12 H-7 points. 4. For Job/Occupation :- 10th lord from lagna & Sun is Mars who is in Venus Navamsa, 10th lord from Moon is MOON, who is in Sat navamsa, Therfore, job should be related to Mars-Venus- Sat. I am an Civil Engineer(Mar-Sat) working with Water(Moon for liquid) and Sanitation( Sa) Construction work(Mar/Sat) For Pisces Lagna - 10 th lord from Lagna, Sun and Moon are Jup, Mars and Moon, who are in Mar, Ven, and Sat navamsa. It matches for both Lagna - Aq & Pis. 5. Lagna Lord and 9th Lord for Pisces lagan are Ju: Ma, who are in 6:8, which is not true as Me and My father are in good wavelength always., while for Aq lagna, they are Sa:Ve, and are in 5:9 p[osition 6. For Aq Lagna, lagna lord is in 12th house. It justifies the liveyhood in foreign land. But for Pisces lagna, no justification came to me. Dear Ash, please comment on these points. Thanks and regards Sanjivawith high points of 22 in Me antra would u have said or predicted that marriage would break, (assuming that themarriage did not happen in low points?). As to why there were discords, I will need to have the chart in front of me to study deeper. > > > About your second point on Sa and having high MF. MF again is for quality and not timing. If your question is w.r.t. timing of getting a job etc then that I am sure u can time. Now, say your career giving planets are say Mars and Saturn and say u are giving some exam for something that is not related to your career or its not somewhere u will perform best, in that case it might be better that u did not pass that exam for whatever reason. > > It reminds me of a chart I did, I beleive it was on this list itself where someone had said that he was taken off a very good project in strongest poitns period for 6th house and he was very dissapointed. How come that happened. > It so happened that that project went ahead and was scapped I beleive.> > Now did that strong planet protect him by taking him off the project at the cost of the gentleman feeling bad or was it a bad thing ?> > Its all a matter of preception I guess.> > But if you were together with your wife in Me antra with 22 points and if u did well in Sa antra in Job then its in line with KAS.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> Dear Ash and Rajesh,> I agree to you that in my SATURN MD,> Mercury 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15 and > Venus 1991-Jun-24 1994-Aug-24> was very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.> Again in Mercury MD> Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29> is very Good in terms of Authority and Finacial Gains.> Mars 1997-Mar-06 1998-Apr-15> period was worst.> In> Jupiter 2001-Feb-19 2003-Sep-02> There was good earning and expenditure as well, but even then I could make GOOD SAVING as well.> But pl explain the following two points.> 1.> Mercury 2003-Sep-02 2006-Jan-29> I have much disagreement with my wife on many no. of issues., I mean not having fine tuning, although we are together whole of the period. With Pisces Lagna Me is giving 22 points for 7 House. The same thing applies to Sat-Mer period of > 1987-Sep-05 1990-May-15> 2. In Sat-Sat Saturn 1984-Sep-01 1987-Sep-05 I appeared in many Competetive Exams for a better Job Prospect, but could not qualify ( except one I now have) in any one of them, although SAT( with a good MF of 1.2)have more points for all the houses ( except 12 House have 11 points).> Please, explain the above> Thanks and regards> Sanjiva> > , Ash ashsam73 wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > I have given some thought to your charts. It seems to me that Sanjiva your lagna might be Pisces.> > Here is my reasoning.> > 1) Venus antra was very good for you in terms of job, authority and income as compared to Rajesh. With Pisces lagna the WS changes. Venus now has 22, 21 and 20 points for 6th, 10th and 11th house. Ve is 3rd lord so LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th and LoD for 11th. Ve is itself placed in 3rd house with 6 bindus so its quite straight forward.> > > > For Rajesh, with Aquarius lagna 6th, 10th points are less.> > > > So there is a big difference in Venus antra.> > > > 2) Marriage timing with Pisces lagna for Sanjiva,> > > > With Pisces lagna Ju is aspecting 7th house and Ju aspects 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. So Ju is causing delay. There is no delay due to Shani as Shani does not aspect Mars who is LoA or 2nd house. There is 1 zero due to Shani in SAV.> > > > So that takes it to Shani antra. Now Shani is LoE for 7th house. So Sanjiva's marriage happend in 3rd sector as there is delay. > > > > For Timing of Rajesh's chart with Aquarius lagna there is full delay and delay due to zero. Sa aspects 2nd house, Sun who is 7th lord and Sa conjoins Ju who is 2nd and 7th lord. There is 1 zero due to Shani. Guru cant check the delay of Shani as Ju is in sign of shani. So delay is over 27.5 years. Rajesh married in Venus antra and Venus is LoD and placed in house D with 6 bindus for 7th as B and at the same time Venus has highest power for 7th house.> > > > So I feel that lagna of Sanjiva might be Pisces and that of Rajesh is Aquarius.> > > > In Mercury antra for Rajesh, points of 11th compared to 12th is less. So its showing debts. Wheareas for Sanjiva with Pisces lagna Me points for 11th and 12th, the 11th is more than 12th. Infact with Pisces lagna, Me has highest points in 11th house for 11th house. Its in House E for 11th as B with 6 bindus and it has good MF and its LoE too. So its again quite clear that lagna of Sanjiva can be Pisces. > > > > But it seems quite clear with these 2 events that Sanjiva's lagna might be Pisces and not Aquarius.> > > > For further checks, the antra of Mars might be worrysome for Sanjiva. More expenses than income for Sanjiva in antra of Mars and Ju antras. For Rajesh more expenses than income in Mercury antra.> > > > The rest of events can be checked accordingly. > > > > This is my humble attempt.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > sanjiva_sharma sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > Dear Rajesh and Ash> > 1. Rajesh mentioned about MERCURY, being the most MELIFIC planet for > > our ASCEDENT( Aquarius), but I noticed that in my case Mer- Mer( > > starting on 02 Sep 2003)period is most beneficail( both Job realted > > Authority and Finacial gains) to me.Mercury is FK for 1 house and 10 > > house.> > 2. There is a big variation in Marriage Date. MY (Sanjiva's) > > marriage was on 07 Feb 1987 ( at the age of 26 yrs 6.5 months) while > > for Rajesh, marriage was on 12 Feb 1990 ( at the age of 29 yrs-6.5 > > monnths). > > Sat aspects House A ( 2nd house)in rashi, LoB(sun) in Rashi and LoC> > (Jup) in Navamsha; Sat is with Jup in 12 house in the sign of Sat. > > Lagna Lord ( Sat in 12 house) and 9 lord (Venus in 4 House)are in > > 5:9 position, thereby nullifying the delay in Marriage due to > > Father's influence.But in both this is a case of Delayed marriage.> > > > Ash, please, explain the reasons for the above two issues.> > Thanks & Regards> > Sanjiva> > , "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sanjiva> > > Thanks for your efforts. Yes there are some critical differences > > in > > > job situations in Saturn/Venus periods and may be Ash can look > > into > > > it. Looking back in time, I can see that all the major positive > > new > > > job changes happened in second and third sectors of various antar-> > > dasas for my self and this is one of the critical factors, since > > > Saturn causes delays in job related developments in my case(Ash > > has > > > already expained that earlier on). saturn has a ZERO in 8th house > > > and being karaka for 5th and 6th house these delays happen, while > > > Jupiter tries to control these delays and improves things from > > third > > > sector to second sector. Also Mercury is undoubtedly the most > > > malefic planet for Aquarius lagna and in my case Mercury is in > > > Gemini in 5th house, hence its the 12th Lor din 12th house when > > > considered from 6th house...so no suprize that the fall happened > > in > > > Saturn/Mercury period and I am still trying to recover from those > > > setbacks...Also I think the environment(saturn+jupiter points) and > > > the general environment of the country (USA) where I live also > > > affects the job related developments...so on one hand the > > horoscope > > > shows negative developments and on the otherhand world wide > > > recession in 2002-2003 also affected me simultaneously i.e., I am > > > thinking now that in a any scenario involving job related > > interviews > > > the horoscope of the competitors and that of the country also play > > > some role as far as final development(job offer) is concerned > > i.e., > > > stronger candidates can potentially overshadow any good candidate > > if > > > they also have a better horoscope...all these thoughts are not > > > directly related to KAS and are just my imaginations only....i am > > > still trying to understand all my failures despite having strong > > > interviews(or were they really strong at all?)..Thanks and > > > Regards...Rajesh Kumaria> > > (P.S. I had a major accident in saturn/mars on 11th Sept 1995 in > > > which i lost a car and also had some spinal cord injuries..took me > > > few months to recover from that in Dec 1995, although I kept on > > > working every day during that time...forgot to mention that)> > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Rajesh.> > > > > > > > I am supplyinng the Major Events for Both, giving MD-AD / Sa+Ju > > > Poinnts etc. Mr. Kumaria, pl check for any error.> > > > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are given> > > > below> > > > > >> > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > >> > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > significnat events of life:> > > > > > > > (i)RajeshS in Electrical Engg, July 1982 in Ju-Ju( Sector-1, > > > Ju+Sa = 5) and first major job on 28th March 1983-in Ju-JU( Sector-> > > 2, Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-Sa( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > (India)> > > > > > > > SanjivaE Civil in July 1983 in Ju-Ra ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = > > 8).; > > > M. Tech in Dec 1984 in Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 6)> > > > -No Clue. as Sa is neither LOD nor LOE for 9th House for Post > > > Graduation Degree> > > > > > > > Job started in 29 Sept1984, selection in July 1984 in Ju-Ra ( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 5)> > > > . may be as Ra( SD to Sun & Ketu(Sat/Mar) Sun is LoD & Mar is > > LOE > > > for 10th House and also mar is LoD(6 H) and LOE(5H) and Sun & > > Mars > > > getting high points for all these three houses> > > > > > > > Cleared Indian Administrative Service(top govt jobs) written > > > testin 1985 and 86,but could not pass through interview No Clue in > > > Sat-Sat( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) RAJESH: First came abroad for studies in Jan 1986in Ju-SAT( > > > Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11) and first major job abroad on 11th July > > 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10).> > > > > > > > (iii) Long journeys to India and back abroad in March 1989, > > > Jan1990,> > > > Feb 1992 , Dec 1996 , May 2001 and Dec 2001.> > > > > > > > (iv) continuous employment dates March 1983in Ju-Ju( Sector-2, > > > Ju+Sa = 8) to Jan 1986in Ju-SAT Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 11), July 1989in > > > Ju-KET( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > to March 2002...in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 10)> > > > > > > > (v)major job changes in July 1992in Ju-VE( Sector-3, Ju+Sa = 8), > > > July 1993in Ju-MO( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 7), May1994in Ju-MOON( > > Sector3, > > > Ju+Sa = 8), Jan 1995 in Ju-MAR( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8)and> > > > Sept 1996in Ju-RAH( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 6), but all these changes > > > ensured continuous employment from> > > > 1989 to 2002( 2 weeks to 2 months gaps)> > > > > > > > (vi)Hard struggle in various alternate professions from March > > > 2002in SAT-MER( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 11) JU+SAT = 7 IN JUL 2002; =8 > > IN > > > AUG 2003; =8 IN SEP 2005> > > > > > > > > > > > to August 2004 and hence heavy financial losses due to such non-> > > > paying jobs...then some contract assignments in software/IT from> > > > August 2004 to November 2004...then finally reaching the present > > > odd> > > > job on 12th September 2005(so in a certain way it has been hard > > to> > > > secure permanent employmnet since March 2002 and still struggling> > > > for last three years or more..)> > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- First Job Change ( On deputation in 15 Feb 1993)-in > > Sat- > > > Ven dasha SAT-VE( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 8);a GOOD CHANGE, . came back > > to > > > Parent DEptt in June 1998 IN SAT-RA( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 11),.> > > > 9.Second Job Change - A Foreign assignment in 11 April 2000, in > > > Sat-Rahu. ( Sector-2, Ju+Sa = 8),stillcontinuing.AGAIN GOOD > > > FINACIALLY / AUTHORITY> > > > > > > > (v) marriage date:> > > > > > > > RAJESH:12th Feb 1990(India)in Ju-VEN( Sector-1, Ju+Sa = 0)> > > > > > > > SANJIVA : 08 FEB 1987 IN SAT-SAT ( SECT-3; JU+SAT=11)> > > > > > > > > > > > (vi) Parents and Spouse:still living FOR BOTH> > > > > > > > > > > > (vii) RAJESH: children(3) births in 28th October 1993( > > cONCEPTION > > > in Ju-SUN , 6thJune 1998(CONCEPTION in Ju-RAH) and 11th> > > > Dec 2000( CONCEPTION in SAT-SAT 5)(all born abroad)...> > > > > > > > SANJIVA:- Daughter Born - 21 June 1991( Conception in Sat-Ket-)> > > > > > > > 7.Son Born - 04 August 1995(Conception in Sat-Sun > > > > > > > > I have given the data for both so that Mr. Ash can give his > > > comments, why there is so difference in the "JOB Front" of both, > > > specifically in SAT-VEN period.> > > > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sanjiva and Rajesh,> > > > > This is a very interesting mail. Can you both please supply > > some > > > > > more events such as marriage date, birth of children (pref > > > > > conception), start of Jobs, promotions, any other significatnt > > > > > events like accidents, if any deaths of parents or sibblings, > > > say > > > > > any period of ill health etc, level of education and passing > > > times, > > > > > field of study.> > > > > > > > > > Then we can study each event.> > > > > I do not have much time in my hands so more information that > > you > > > can > > > > > give me will save me time to study from each angle.> > > > > > > > > > Say for example, Sanjiva, you gave your Job period, but also > > > give > > > > > the Sa and Ju points during that period for example in 1st > > > sector it > > > > > was 7 points and then in 2nd sector say Ju changes sign or Sa > > > > > changes sign so give the Sa and Ju points too and Same for > > > Rajesh so > > > > > that we can compare properly. I just gave a cursory glance at > > > > > Sanjiva's Sa and Ju points in 1st sector they were 8 i beleive > > > in > > > > > about Dec 1991 or so. When Ve antra started it might have been > > > 7. > > > > > For Rajesh Ve and 1st sector till 25th Sept or so the points > > > were > > > > > 7. As soon as the effects of 8 points have begun, Rajesh has > > got > > > a > > > > > job but not to his liking. Yes, 2nd and 3rd sectors are to go. > > > > > > > > > > This will be a very good exercise.> > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sanjiva, one more quick observation between your chart > > and > > > > > Rajesh chart is the position of Moon. Check the lesson on > > > finding > > > > > occupation where the position of lagna, sun and moon in D > > charts > > > is > > > > > given. In your Case in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa you > > have > > > > > more sectors of Shani wheareas for Rajesh he has more sectors > > of > > > > > Venus. This shows the intellegence and photographic memory. > > For > > > > > Rajesh he might be more particular about say keeping his home > > > more > > > > > clean and that whatever he does it will be with artistic > > touch. > > > > > These are subtle things, wheareas for you, you might have very > > > good > > > > > memory even photographic memory and are more abt to think > > > yourself > > > > > out of difficult situation.> > > > > > > > > > The degree of Moon is very important as that will unfold your > > > life > > > > > based on Dasha. So for that we are clear on how the life will > > > > > unfold differently w.r.t. timing of events. > > > > > > > > > > We can take a detailed study on both your charts and study the > > > > > difference but for that lets prep and get all events properly > > > and > > > > > then we can take each one and learn form it.> > > > > > > > > > I hope we can learn into the very details of the system from > > > > > Krushnaji if he can also guide us, but let us first get about > > 10 > > > > > events and let us study and see how much say differnece is > > there > > > in > > > > > marrriage timing or say getting job or education and timing of > > > first > > > > > job and say environment around that time.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjiva_sharma" > > > > > sanjivasharma@g... wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > Mine( sanjiva) and Mr. Rajesh Kumaria's WS is 'EXACTLY > > > > > IDENTICAL". > > > > > > The only difference is in MD.> > > > > > Mine MD is ahead by 13yrs - 4 months- 11 days. E.G. Mine SAT > > > > > > mahadasha started in 01 Sep 84, while Kumaria's SAT > > mahadasha > > > > > > started in 12 Jan 1998.> > > > > > Now a few queries > > > > > > 1. Having "AN IDENTICAL WORKSHEET", results in various > > > antrdasha > > > > > > should have been similar, ONLY the timing of these will be > > > > > > according to MD/AD? Is it true?> > > > > > 2. Mr. Kumaria is without a JOB in Sat-Ven period((03 Nov 04 > > > to > > > > > 13 > > > > > > Jan 08).I( Sanjiva) did have a change( but not without > > > > > job/earning) > > > > > > in my Sat-Ven period(24 June 91 to 24 Aug 94).The first > > sector > > > was > > > > > > an average, but 2nd & 3rd sector gave good authority and > > > income. > > > > > > Whay this difference?> > > > > > 3. I came to foreign country in my Sat-Rah period( in April > > > 200), > > > > > > while Mr. Kumaria in Jup MD. Please expalin?> > > > > > For the ease of refernece The birth details of both are > > given > > > below> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva:-> > > > > > Birth Date 21 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:57 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Khatauli(INDIA) - 29 N 16 ; 77 E 42> > > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria:-> > > > > > Birth Date 20 July 1961> > > > > > > > > at 21:50 hrs at> > > > > > > > > Lucknow(INDIA) - 26N 51; 80E 55.> > > > > > > > > > > > I think these two have a good examples for "Comparison" & > > > > > > Explanation for various events.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rajesh M. > > > > > Kumaria" > > > > > > rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > Hope you are fine...Well here is finally some feedback on > > my > > > own > > > > > > > chart. What happens is that I did get an ODD JOB on 12th > > > > > Sept2005 > > > > > > > and I am working long hours on this low paying odd job to > > > > > survive > > > > > > > and pay my bills somehow(mostly based on tremendous > > physical > > > > > > efforts > > > > > > > for last 3 months and so its kind of scary to continue on > > > such a > > > > > > job > > > > > > > forever...). ALso I am still trying to get a proper job in > > > > > > > Software/IT sector simultaneously. So yes there is some > > > > > financial > > > > > > > relief but still the job search is going on for a proper > > > job. I > > > > > > will > > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > any further in sights in my chart.> > > > > > > Thanks and All the best> > > > > > > Rajesh Kumaria> > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > ashsam73 > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I shall answer your questions which incidentally are > > very > > > > > good, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > can share my experience with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rajesh M. Kumaria" rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash> > > > > > > > I am somewhat very disorganized thesedays as far as > > > jyotish is > > > > > > > > concerned due to my own problems(so cannot particpate > > > freely > > > > > > > > thesedays) while interpreting my chart. I just saw this > > > mail > > > > > and > > > > > > > > found that you have focussed on Natural and Functional > > > karakas > > > > > > > > below. I had few questions arising out of all this:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH WHEN TIME IS RIGHT EVERYTHING WILL FALL > > INTO > > > > > > PLACE. > > > > > > > I DO UNDERSTAND THAT U ARE GOING THOUGH SOME VERY TOUGH > > > TIMES > > > > > AND > > > > > > > DESPITE THESE DIFFICULT TIMES U ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE > > > TOO. > > > > > > NO > > > > > > > WORRIES, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE TIME IS > > > RIGHT U > > > > > > CAN > > > > > > > TAKE YOUR STUDIES INTO 4TH GEAR :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i) Let's say(my case) Venus antara is running and Venus > > > is > > > > > > > Natural > > > > > > > > karaka for 7th and 12th houses and also its Functional > > > karaka > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > 2nd and 9th houses. It has high pints (16 to 22) for > > 2nd, > > > 9th, > > > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > > and 7th houses. But at the same time it has low points > > for > > > 6th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 10th house(10 points). So does it mean that the planet > > > desires > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > give wealth and money since its a strong karaka for some > > > > > houses > > > > > > > yet > > > > > > > > it prevents from job developments to materialize at the > > > same > > > > > > > time?? > > > > > > > > SO if the jupiter and saturn points go high (transit) > > then > > > > > only > > > > > > > > Venus can deliver the results?? So if I am right then > > > looks > > > > > like > > > > > > > > Karaka gets directly linked to Transit strength??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : RAJESH, MAHADASHA AND TRANSITS ARE NOT USED FOR > > > TIMING > > > > > OF > > > > > > > EVENTS. MD SHOWS THE KARAKTWA OR SAY ALL AD'S WILL HAVE > > > FLAVOUR > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > THE MD OR IN SOME WAY LINKED TO MD. FOR EXAMPLE IN YOUR > > > CHART > > > > > IF > > > > > > U > > > > > > > HAVE MD OR SUN OR MERCURY RUNNING OR EVEN SA FOR THAT > > MATTER > > > AS > > > > > SA > > > > > > > IS SD TO ME, THEN THE ANTRAS WILL HAVE TOUCH OF SAY > > FLAVOUR > > > OF > > > > > > > AUTHORITY OR LINKED TO AUTHORITY ETC. SO IF 10TH POINTS > > ARE > > > > > HIGH > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > 6TH POINTS ARE HIGH ETC THEY WILL HAVE SOME SAY OR LINKE > > TO > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE AS YOUR ME IS IN 5TH HOUSE AND ITS 5TH LORD, SUN IS > > > > > NATURAL > > > > > > > 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE IS A FOR 10TH. IN YOUR CASE ME MD > > > WILL > > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > BE KARAK FOR 1ST HOUSE (8TH LORD) AND IN NATURAL CHART ITS > > > 3RD > > > > > AND > > > > > > > 6TH LORD SO 3RD IS KARKA FOR 8TH AND 6TH IS KARAK FOR > > 11TH. > > > SO > > > > > > ALL > > > > > > > ALL THE ANTRAS WILL BE LINKED TO OR SAY U ARE INTERPRETING > > > THE > > > > > > > MEANING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN U STUDY TO MAHADASHA. 6TH > > HOUSE > > > > > MEANS > > > > > > > HEALTH ALSO IT MEANS JOB ALSO AND IT MEANS ENEMIES SO HERE > > > SAY > > > > > MD > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > 1ST LORD IS RUNNING AND 1ST HOUSE IS KARAK FOR 6TH SO LESS > > > POINTS> > > > > > > > IN 6TH HOUSE CAN SHOW ILL HEALTH, NOW AT THE SAME TIME > > IF > > > THE > > > > > > 1ST > > > > > > > LORD IS ALSO 10TH LORD IN KALPURUSH CHART THEN LOW POWER > > IN > > > 10TH > > > > > > > HOUSE CAN HAVE SOME LINKE TO AUTHORITY SO 1ST CAN THEN > > ALSO > > > BE > > > > > JOB > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY OR SAY IT CAN MEAN THAT A PERSON MAY NOT BE > > > ABLE > > > > > TO > > > > > > > GET MORE AUTHORITY AND THE DEEPER REASON COULD BE I'LL > > > HEALTH OR > > > > > > > SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE U SHOULD CONSIDER ALL 12 HOUSES. > > > SAY > > > > > > IF > > > > > > > 11TH IS STILL HIGH, 10TH IS LOW AND 6TH IS LOW AND SAY THE > > > CHART > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > OF A LADY AND THE PERIOD IS STRONG FOR 11TH, THEN IT COULD > > > ALSO > > > > > > MEAN > > > > > > > THAT THE LADY CONCEIVES AND DELIVERS AND THEN TAKES > > > MATERNITIY > > > > > > > LEAVE, SO HERE MAYBE 10TH, AND 6TH HAVE LESSER POINTS > > > SHOWING > > > > > SOME > > > > > > > CHANGE IN JOB STATUS AND AUTHORITY STATUS (TEMPORARILY) SO > > > LIKE > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > U CAN STUDY.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (ii) I found that certain people who have high points > > for > > > all > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > are still not able to get jobs since jupuiter and Saturn > > > > > transit > > > > > > > > strengths(less than 8) are low. What does this mean?? > > What > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > they do?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : AS U KNOW RAJESH, AT ONE TIME ALL 12 HOUSES ARE > > > ACTING. > > > > > > FOR > > > > > > > TIMING EVENT WE FIRST SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA THEN SECTOR > > > AND > > > > > THEN > > > > > > > PDF. THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THEN. NOW TAKE YOUR CHART > > (IF > > > I > > > > > > > MAY) AND STUDY YOUR VENUS, I CAN SEE ITS GOT GOOD POWER > > FOR > > > 11TH > > > > > > > HOUSE ITS LOE AND IN HOUSE E FOR 11TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD > > > > > > INCOME) , > > > > > > > ITS LOE FOR 4TH (SO U WILL GET GOOD HAPPINESS FROM HOME), > > > VENUS > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > ALSO GOT HIGHEST PONITS FOR 5TH (SO GOOD SATISFACTION FROM > > > > > > CHILDREN > > > > > > > AND ALSO MAYBE U MIGHT GET A DEGREE OR SOME THING TO > > ENHANCE > > > > > WORK > > > > > > OR > > > > > > > LIKE A PRE REQ SO IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE IN VENUS ANTRA > > TO > > > GET > > > > > > > INCOME COMING IN, ITS LOD FOR 7TH HOUSE SO AGIAN ITS > > SHOWING > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > HAPPINESS FROM WIFE,(7TH) HOME (4TH), CHILDREN (5TH), ITS > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > FOR 9TH SO LUCK AND HAPPINESS FROM FATHER OR GURU TOO AND > > > ALSO > > > > > > GOOD > > > > > > > LEARNING, 8TH IS ALSO GOOD SO GOOD FOR EVEN LEARNING > > OCCULT > > > > > > SCIENCES > > > > > > > ETC. > > > > > > > > SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN VENUS ANTRA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT 3 HOUSE ALL ARE VERY POWERFUL AND THOSE 3 HOUSE > > > WHERE U > > > > > > > WILL WORRY IS 3RD, 6TH AND 10TH. SO JOB OR HEALTH OR IN > > > SHORT > > > > > 6TH > > > > > > > AND AUTHORITY AND PARAKRAM MIGHT BE AREAS OF WORRY. NOW > > 1ST > > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > POINTS ARE HIGH FOR VENUS SO U WILL REMAIN OPTIMISTIC > > WHICH > > > WILL > > > > > > BE > > > > > > > YOUR BIG ASSET. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW I CAN SEE 11TH HOUSE HAS GOOD POWER. SO IT MEANS > > THAT > > > > > THERE > > > > > > > WILL BE GOOD INCOME AND NOT ONLY THAT U WILL MAYBE SPEND > > > MONEY > > > > > ON > > > > > > > LUXURIES ALSO. NOW THE QUESTIONS BECONS IS WHEN ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN PROPER SECTOR COMES AND PROPER PDF > > > > > > > ACTIVATES. NOW U HAVE 1 ZERO IN SAV AND THAT TOO BY SHANI. > > > > > YES, > > > > > > U > > > > > > > ARE LUCKY THAT SA AND MA ARE NOT TRANSITTING YOUR HOUSE > > WITH > > > 0 > > > > > > > POINTS AS OF NOW I.E. FIRST SECTOR.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO NOW I FEEL THAT 2ND SECTOR ONWARDS THIS DELAY IN THE > > > SECTOR > > > > > > > CAUSED BY SHANI WILL COME TO PASS AND THE DOORS WILL START > > > TO > > > > > OPEN > > > > > > > UP SO THAT U CAN GET INCOME. YES, EVEN IF U GET GOOD > > > AUTHORITY > > > > > > > THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS OR THE OTHER AND MAYBE EVEN > > SOME > > > > > > > PROBLEMS IN JOB/HEALTH OR IT CAN SHOW MULTIPLE JOB CHANGES > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos> > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.> >> > > > > > DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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