Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Ash, I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. My father’s friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian “Telugu” language in 1967 on my father’s horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. Father Birth Data: Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). Father Marriage Analysis: One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. Mother Birth Data: Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) Mother Marriage analysis: There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 There is no delay from Saturn. In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, Phone: +91-040-24530210 Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu; rayadu Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com Autos. 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Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, I went through your analysis of the chart given for 7th Sept 1907, 18:02 at 18N07 and 83E26. I timed it blindly and came to the exact date as given. Then I read your analysis and u are in line. I shall share my analysis. 1) Venus to Sun distance = 2 degrees. 2) Guru in libra 3) Lagna, sun, moon and Venus and their 7th's all in 6:8. 4) 1 Zero in 7th house due to Mars. 5) Most of the points in 7th house are weak except for Ve and Me. Ve as per status is also spoilt or say burn being too close to sun. LAgna and 9th lords are Not in 5:9. Ofcouse this chart has raj yogs like lords or kon and kendra conjoin in 7th etc etc but we will focus on Marriage. So here as per our laws of KAS the marriage cant be happy. In such cases. You are perfectly right, we use the Desh/Kaal/Paatra principal first to see about marriage time .... so here you are correct in your findings that there is no delay... so as per that time and age marrige will be early... so if that is 14 then at 14 years... or if 15 then 15. But mostly it will be in lowest points. There maybe slight delay in fixing and perfomring marriage or couple meeting after marriage etc due to 1 zero in 7th house or maybe in sector too... So here if 15 years or 16 is early marriage then it will happen.. that time its Ju antra and Ju has lowest power so and your are correct in yoru sector selection too. So exactly as per KAS, when there is unhappy marriage it will be performed in lowest significator or 6th lord and that is what has happened here. So the chart is matching as per KAS. I think it will be clear now. The second chart I shall analysse later on when I get some time. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. > > My father's friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian " Telugu " language in 1967 on my father's horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. > > My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. > > Father Birth Data: > > Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 > > Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). > > Father Marriage Analysis: > > One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. > 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 > There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. > As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. > > Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. > > The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. > > Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. > > Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. > > Mother Birth Data: > > Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 > > Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer > > Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in > Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) > > Mother Marriage analysis: > > There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. > > 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 > > There is no delay from Saturn. > In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. > In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. > > Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. > > During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. > > Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. > > The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. 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Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, Without more data of your mom, its hard to say, but Do you think your mother could be born say 1 hour before 3 am means at 2 am ? i.e Lagna rising is Cancer. LAgna and 9th lords are in 5:9. Most points are low in 7th house and 5th house, early marriage. Marriage in Sa antra lowest points for 7th. From Lagna and sun and 7th are in 5:9 and from Moon it sin 4:10. Cheers !!! Ash " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ash, I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. My father’s friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian “Telugu” language in 1967 on my father’s horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. Father Birth Data: Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). Father Marriage Analysis: One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. Mother Birth Data: Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) Mother Marriage analysis: There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 There is no delay from Saturn. In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, Phone: +91-040-24530210 Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu; rayadu Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com Autos. 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Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks for your analysis of father’s chart. Regarding mother’s chart, I agree with your analysis of taking Cancer lagna to match KAS. But I cannot comment about the birth time since the data was taken from the old notebook of my grand father who was a great astrologer and who used to write all charts and calculations in that notebook. I still have that very old note book. He mentioned the lagna as Leo lagna completed( bhukti) 2 ghatis 5 vighatis and remaining ( shesham) as 3 ghatis 15 vighatis and this comes to about 12 degrees in Leo which almost matches KAS Leo lagna degrees ( ofcourse Ayanamsa differences may be there). So Leo lagna should be correct. Even if it is rectified as per Tatwa Siddhanta, it would be still Leo lagna only with ToB 02:43;16 hrs instead of given 03:00 hrs. Even with Leo lagna, in the 7th Saturn has got only 3 points and probably the marriage was fixed in Saturn sub dasa before 15 Feb 1923 and actually performed in Mercury Sub dasa from 15 Feb 1923 to 3 Sept 1923. May be we need not consider any delays due Saturn or Jupiter or factors of nullification of delays etc in such cases. There was not much about my mother. She was a very religious lady, responsible house wife, short, very fair, her father very rich village chief, had 2 elder sisters, one elder brother, one younger sister, had two sons ( me middle one) and one daughter, 2 or 3 above me and after me died, not very healthy, died one year before my father in about Sept/Oct 1987 around Dussera Festival days, I think, due to heart attack. Anyway, if you want to fix up the ToB to suit KAS, please do it at your leisure time and inform your analysis. Otherwise do not bother if it unnecessarily curb your precious time. Once again thanks. Blessings Pemmaraju Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Without more data of your mom, its hard to say, but Do you think your mother could be born say 1 hour before 3 am means at 2 am ? i.e Lagna rising is Cancer. LAgna and 9th lords are in 5:9. Most points are low in 7th house and 5th house, early marriage. Marriage in Sa antra lowest points for 7th. From Lagna and sun and 7th are in 5:9 and from Moon it sin 4:10. Cheers !!! Ash " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ash, I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. My father’s friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian “Telugu” language in 1967 on my father’s horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. Father Birth Data: Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). Father Marriage Analysis: One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. Mother Birth Data: Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) Mother Marriage analysis: There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 There is no delay from Saturn. In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, Phone: +91-040-24530210 Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu; rayadu Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com Autos. 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Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, I am not trying to fit anything with KAS. With one event I do not think a chart can be rectified. The reason for me asking about the fact is that with cancer lagna its not showing much happiness as u can see from points. Also with cancer lagna there is no delay due to Ju. With Leo lagna there is slight delay. Now I do not know if 9 years is considered moderate delay back in 1915 and in Vishakapatnam. Only you can say. If 9 years is considered moderate delay then its ok too. In any case, I can't rectify any chart with 1 event. Sometimes 1 event can match with even 2 lagnas its only with more events can one narrow to the exact time. In any case rectification is a very long and tedious task and I may not have the time at this junction. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your analysis of father?s chart. > > > Regarding mother?s chart, I agree with your analysis of taking Cancer lagna to match KAS. But I cannot comment about the birth time since the data was taken from the old notebook of my grand father who was a great astrologer and who used to write all charts and calculations in that notebook. I still have that very old note book. He mentioned the lagna as Leo lagna completed( bhukti) 2 ghatis 5 vighatis and remaining ( shesham) as 3 ghatis 15 vighatis and this comes to about 12 degrees in Leo which almost matches KAS Leo lagna degrees ( ofcourse Ayanamsa differences may be there). So Leo lagna should be correct. Even if it is rectified as per Tatwa Siddhanta, it would be still Leo lagna only with ToB 02:43;16 hrs instead of given 03:00 hrs. > > Even with Leo lagna, in the 7th Saturn has got only 3 points and probably the marriage was fixed in Saturn sub dasa before 15 Feb 1923 and actually performed in Mercury Sub dasa from 15 Feb 1923 to 3 Sept 1923. May be we need not consider any delays due Saturn or Jupiter or factors of nullification of delays etc in such cases. > > There was not much about my mother. She was a very religious lady, responsible house wife, short, very fair, her father very rich village chief, had 2 elder sisters, one elder brother, one younger sister, had two sons ( me middle one) and one daughter, 2 or 3 above me and after me died, not very healthy, died one year before my father in about Sept/Oct 1987 around Dussera Festival days, I think, due to heart attack. > > Anyway, if you want to fix up the ToB to suit KAS, please do it at your leisure time and inform your analysis. Otherwise do not bother if it unnecessarily curb your precious time. > > Once again thanks. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > Without more data of your mom, its hard to say, but Do you think your mother could be born say 1 hour before 3 am means at 2 am ? > i.e Lagna rising is Cancer. > LAgna and 9th lords are in 5:9. Most points are low in 7th house and 5th house, early marriage. > Marriage in Sa antra lowest points for 7th. > From Lagna and sun and 7th are in 5:9 and from Moon it sin 4:10. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ash, > > I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. > > My father?s friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian ?Telugu? language in 1967 on my father?s horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. > > My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. > > Father Birth Data: > > Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 > > Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). > > Father Marriage Analysis: > > One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. > 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 > There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. > As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. > > Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. > > The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. > > Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. > > Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. > > Mother Birth Data: > > Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 > > Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer > > Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in > Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) > > Mother Marriage analysis: > > There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. > > 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 > > There is no delay from Saturn. > In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. > In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. > > Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. > > During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. > > Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. > > The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > Phone: +91-040-24530210 > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu; rayadu > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Thank you Ash for your immediate reply, sparing your precious time.. I can understand the problem. Since I do not also know about the customs then, let us leave it. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, I am not trying to fit anything with KAS. With one event I do not think a chart can be rectified. The reason for me asking about the fact is that with cancer lagna its not showing much happiness as u can see from points. Also with cancer lagna there is no delay due to Ju. With Leo lagna there is slight delay. Now I do not know if 9 years is considered moderate delay back in 1915 and in Vishakapatnam. Only you can say. If 9 years is considered moderate delay then its ok too. In any case, I can't rectify any chart with 1 event. Sometimes 1 event can match with even 2 lagnas its only with more events can one narrow to the exact time. In any case rectification is a very long and tedious task and I may not have the time at this junction. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your analysis of father?s chart. > > > Regarding mother?s chart, I agree with your analysis of taking Cancer lagna to match KAS. But I cannot comment about the birth time since the data was taken from the old notebook of my grand father who was a great astrologer and who used to write all charts and calculations in that notebook. I still have that very old note book. He mentioned the lagna as Leo lagna completed( bhukti) 2 ghatis 5 vighatis and remaining ( shesham) as 3 ghatis 15 vighatis and this comes to about 12 degrees in Leo which almost matches KAS Leo lagna degrees ( ofcourse Ayanamsa differences may be there). So Leo lagna should be correct. Even if it is rectified as per Tatwa Siddhanta, it would be still Leo lagna only with ToB 02:43;16 hrs instead of given 03:00 hrs. > > Even with Leo lagna, in the 7th Saturn has got only 3 points and probably the marriage was fixed in Saturn sub dasa before 15 Feb 1923 and actually performed in Mercury Sub dasa from 15 Feb 1923 to 3 Sept 1923. May be we need not consider any delays due Saturn or Jupiter or factors of nullification of delays etc in such cases. > > There was not much about my mother. She was a very religious lady, responsible house wife, short, very fair, her father very rich village chief, had 2 elder sisters, one elder brother, one younger sister, had two sons ( me middle one) and one daughter, 2 or 3 above me and after me died, not very healthy, died one year before my father in about Sept/Oct 1987 around Dussera Festival days, I think, due to heart attack. > > Anyway, if you want to fix up the ToB to suit KAS, please do it at your leisure time and inform your analysis. Otherwise do not bother if it unnecessarily curb your precious time. > > Once again thanks. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > Without more data of your mom, its hard to say, but Do you think your mother could be born say 1 hour before 3 am means at 2 am ? > i.e Lagna rising is Cancer. > LAgna and 9th lords are in 5:9. Most points are low in 7th house and 5th house, early marriage. > Marriage in Sa antra lowest points for 7th. > From Lagna and sun and 7th are in 5:9 and from Moon it sin 4:10. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ash, > > I have tried below the marriage analysis of my parents of older generation, which may be of interest to you all. Please correct for any mistakes and give your analysis at your convenience.. > > My father?s friend and my Guru too, a famous astrologer in those times, published a book in South Indian ?Telugu? language in 1967 on my father?s horoscope giving a detailed analysis of various life events with respect to all traditional Vedic Astrology principles such as Dasas upto sub-sub level, Shadbalas, Bhavas etc etc. As I know, he used to rectify the given birth time with respect to Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhata, Dasas versus events etc. He wrote in the book that my father was married in his 16th year and the matching Dasa was Mercury Main dasa, Sun Sub dasa and Mercury sub-sub dasa as per Lahiri Ayanamsa and this corresponds to 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923. He did not give the exact date of marriage in the book. My father and grand father also knew astrology. So the birth data mentioned in the book should be correct. > > My father was a Labor leader, Member of A.P. Government Legislative Council nominated by Governor and General Secretary of AP state Congress Committee. He had two sons and a daughter, me being the middle one. I was told he had lost 2 or 3 children earlier and later to me. He died in October 1988. > > Father Birth Data: > > Name: P.Venkata Rao, DoB 7 September 1907, ToB 18:02 16 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, Inida Lat 18N07, Long 83E26 > > Rasi: Aquarius lagna; Saturn (retro) in Pisces; Rahu in Gemini; Moon & Jupiter in Cancer; Sun, Mercury & Venus in Leo; Mars & Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Navamsha: Pisces lagna; Rahu in Gemini; Mercury, Venus & Saturn in Leo; Sun & Mars in Virgo; Moon & Jupiter in Libra; Ketu in Sagittarius. > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (exact date not known). > > Father Marriage Analysis: > > One Zero in SAV for Mars in 7th. > 7th house for marriage WS points: Venus 17, Mercury 16, Sun 12, Saturn 11, Mars 9, Jupiter 7, Moon 2 > There is no delay for marriage due to Saturn and Jupiter. > As per normal analysis, we should have started marriage from legal age of 21 years. I think that in those days there was no restriction of any legal marriage age. So forgetting about staring from 21 age, the dasa and sub dasa during the time of marriage is taken. > > Mercury mama dasa Sun sub dasa is from 22 May 1921 to 29 March 1922 and the next Moon sub dasa is from 29 March 1922 to 28 August 1923. > > The marriage happened in Mercury main dasa and Moon sub dasa. But Moon has got only 2 points in 7th house WS, 6th lord, 12th lord to 7th and in 6th. I do not know how Moon gave marriage. Jupiter functional SD to Moon also has got less points in 7th. May be, Sun natural SD to Moon with more points of 12 in 7th WS might helped Moon to give the marriage. I do not know whether Sun coming earlier to Moon can give result of Moon as SD. The earlier Sun sub dasa should have been more suitable. May be the marriage was fixed in Sun sub dasa and actually celebrated in Moon sub dasa due to the problem of Muhurt fixation and/ or due to some other circumstances. Since I do not know the exact date of marriage, I cannot comment further. > > Due to zero point in SAV of Mars, the marriage happened in the III sector of Moon sub dasa from 8 March 1923 to 28 September 1923. > > Lagna lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8, Moon sign lord Moon and its 7th lord Saturn are in 5:9 and Sun sign lord Sun and its 7th lord Saturn are in 6:8. Jupiter in Libra in Navamsha. So the marital life may not be satisfactory. > > Mother Birth Data: > > Name: P.Annapurna, DoB 10 October 1915, ToB 0300 hrs, PoB Vizianagaram, AP state, India Latitude 18N07, Longitude 83E26 > > Rasa: Leo lagna; Sun in Virgo; Moon, Mercury & Venus in Libra; Rahu in Capricorn Jupiter (retro) in Aquarius, Saturn in Gemini; Mars & Ketu in Cancer > > Navamsha: Cancer lagna; Rahu in lagna; Sun in Leo; Mars in Virgo; Venus in Libra; Moon in Sagittarius; Ketu in Capricorn; Mercury in Aquarius; Saturn in > Taurus; Jupiter (retro) in Gemini > > Marriage: 22 March 1923 to 5 May 1923 (same as father data) > > Mother Marriage analysis: > > There is one Zero for Saturn in 7th house. > > 7th house WS points: Mars 56, Venus 14, Moon 13, Jupiter 13, Sun 12, Mercury 12, Saturn 3 > > There is no delay from Saturn. > In Rasi Jupiter is in B, aspects LoA, LoB. So there is delay due to Jupiter. > In Rasi, lagna lord Sun and 9th lord Mars are in 3:11, not in 5:9 position and so the delay due to Jupiter is not nullified. > > Rahu is in Saturn sign and Moon star. Saturn has 2 points and Moon 4 points in Capricorn 6th house and so Rahu is more SD to Moon. > > During the marriage period, the dasa was Rahu maha dasa and Mercury sub dasa from 5 March 1915 to 3 September 1923. Mercury has got 12 points in 7th WS. The marriage happened in I sector from 15 Feb 1923 to 22 December 1923; the delay due to zero point in SAV has not come into play. > > Since, I think, in those days there is no restriction of marriage age legally of 18 years, the delay due to Jupiter may not be valid in this case. > > The marital happiness from her side seems to be alright. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > Phone: +91-040-24530210 > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu; rayadu > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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