Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear Group, This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: " ashsam73 " wrote: Dear Bharat, I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to mother. Cheers !!! Ash " Bharat Hindu Astrology " wrote: > > Namaskaar All > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note the birth > details: > > Female > 14 November 1978 > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to attempt the > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and hopefully the > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death occured. > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, and if > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > Three important things: > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > 3. It was a sudden death. > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not entertain any > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th 2006. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear Group, Self is posting his reply on KNR group to AV list too. Dear Ashji, Pranams. Congratulations on your analsyis which seems Right On! I myself am NOT entirely convinced by (my ability of) Ashtakavarga, but I am open to learning any schools that can give results. Best - Sateesh. ======== - Ash Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:15 AM Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given Dear Group, This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: " ashsam73 " wrote: Dear Bharat, I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to mother. Cheers !!! Ash " Bharat Hindu Astrology " wrote: > > Namaskaar All > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note the birth > details: > > Female > 14 November 1978 > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to attempt the > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and hopefully the > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death occured. > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, and if > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > Three important things: > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > 3. It was a sudden death. > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not entertain any > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th 2006. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear Sateesh, :-) Cheers !!! Ash , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > Self is posting his reply on KNR group to AV list too. > > Dear Ashji, > > Pranams. > > Congratulations on your analsyis which seems Right On! > > I myself am NOT entirely convinced by (my ability of) Ashtakavarga, > but I am open to learning any schools that can give results. > > Best - Sateesh. > > ======== > > > - > Ash > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:15 AM > Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given > > > Dear Group, > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > mother. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > wrote: > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note > the birth > > details: > > > > Female > > 14 November 1978 > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > attempt the > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > hopefully the > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death > occured. > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, > and if > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > Three important things: > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > entertain any > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th > 2006. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Ash, Congratulations for this prediction! A questions: 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an early 1990's) ? 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? all the best, Dadhi - Ash Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given Dear Group, This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: " ashsam73 " wrote: Dear Bharat, I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to mother. Cheers !!! Ash " Bharat Hindu Astrology " wrote: > > Namaskaar All > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note the birth > details: > > Female > 14 November 1978 > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to attempt the > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and hopefully the > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death occured. > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, and if > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > Three important things: > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > 3. It was a sudden death. > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not entertain any > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th 2006. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Ash, Congrats for the correct prediction. Sincere Regards Bala Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Dadhi, W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is linked to Death. So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis.dumancic wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > A questions: > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an early 1990's) ? > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > all the best, > Dadhi > > > > > - > Ash > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given > > > Dear Group, > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > mother. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > wrote: > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note > the birth > > details: > > > > Female > > 14 November 1978 > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > attempt the > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > hopefully the > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death > occured. > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, > and if > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > Three important things: > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > entertain any > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th > 2006. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Raghunath Rao, I believe Ben Collins (moderator of " Jyotish List " or Jyotish Group) started the KNR list recently as he is a follower of KN Rao - to - send blank mail to - KNRaoJyotish- As for " AV " list - it means this group (Ashtakavarga). Hope this clarifies. Best - Sateesh. ======== - Raghunatha RaoNemani Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:39 AM Re: Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given Namaste Sateesh, Can you please write to me the details of the two groups you have mentioned in your earlier message : " KNR group & AV list " . Regards Raghunatha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is linked to Death. So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. Cheers !!! Ash , " Dadhi " <denis.dumancic wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > A questions: > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an early 1990's) ? > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > all the best, > Dadhi > > > > > - > Ash > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > Native's Death Puzzle - Attempt that I had given > > > Dear Group, > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native or > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the native. > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > mother. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > wrote: > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note > the birth > > details: > > > > Female > > 14 November 1978 > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > attempt the > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > hopefully the > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death > occured. > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, > and if > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > Three important things: > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away. > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > entertain any > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th > 2006. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Respected Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, You said Mars is third lord in navamsa also. How it is ? Navamsa lagna is Cp, therefore third lord is Jup and Venus is in third house of pisces navamsa. I am confused here. Please clarify my doubt. If I am wrong then I can not rely upon this KAS version. In other chart I was getting Tula lagna whereas you people got scorpio lagna. It means all the time my understanding may be wrong.That is why may I request you to clear my doubt of Cp navamsa lagna so Jup is third lord and not Mars as you mentioned in your analysis.Thanks and regards. Bless me. RC Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear Ramesh, I get Lagna Virgo 4 degrees 33 minutes. which gives Aquarius navamsa lagna. Capricorn Navamsa lagna is wrong. You can check up with any other software, ofcourse taking the KAS Ayanamsa.Even with Lahari Ayanamsa, the Navamsa lagna would be Aquarius, because the difference between KAS and Lahari Ayanamsas is about 54 minutes. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, You said Mars is third lord in navamsa also. How it is ? Navamsa lagna is Cp, therefore third lord is Jup and Venus is in third house of pisces navamsa. I am confused here. Please clarify my doubt. If I am wrong then I can not rely upon this KAS version. In other chart I was getting Tula lagna whereas you people got scorpio lagna. It means all the time my understanding may be wrong.That is why may I request you to clear my doubt of Cp navamsa lagna so Jup is third lord and not Mars as you mentioned in your analysis.Thanks and regards. Bless me. RC Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, This is the problem with the software. Which software you are using? I am using KAS v2.2.1 and getting Virgo lagna but in Cp navamsa. Actually when everyone uses same software, there should not be any differences in the data. If it is so there might be a bug. However I have to check it up manually. Thanks for the cross checking. Ramesh Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ramesh, I get Lagna Virgo 4 degrees 33 minutes. which gives Aquarius navamsa lagna. Capricorn Navamsa lagna is wrong. You can check up with any other software, ofcourse taking the KAS Ayanamsa.Even with Lahari Ayanamsa, the Navamsa lagna would be Aquarius, because the difference between KAS and Lahari Ayanamsas is about 54 minutes. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, You said Mars is third lord in navamsa also. How it is ? Navamsa lagna is Cp, therefore third lord is Jup and Venus is in third house of pisces navamsa. I am confused here. Please clarify my doubt. If I am wrong then I can not rely upon this KAS version. In other chart I was getting Tula lagna whereas you people got scorpio lagna. It means all the time my understanding may be wrong.That is why may I request you to clear my doubt of Cp navamsa lagna so Jup is third lord and not Mars as you mentioned in your analysis.Thanks and regards. Bless me. RC Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ramesh, You often get a discripancy in the values. I got the same values as Pemmaraju. I beleive all are getting the same values. I don't know if u have already done this, but download another copy of the program on your pc from Donna's website. It just can be a one off thing. Even the chart that Prmmaraju gave for Gita, was exactly the same that I got using the program. Try that Ramesh and see if your values match. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, > This is the problem with the software. Which software you are using? I am using KAS v2.2.1 and getting Virgo lagna but in Cp navamsa. Actually when everyone uses same software, there should not be any differences in the data. > If it is so there might be a bug. However I have to check it up manually. > Thanks for the cross checking. > Ramesh Mishra > > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I get Lagna Virgo 4 degrees 33 minutes. which gives Aquarius navamsa lagna. Capricorn Navamsa lagna is wrong. > > You can check up with any other software, ofcourse taking the KAS Ayanamsa.Even with Lahari Ayanamsa, the Navamsa lagna would be Aquarius, because the difference between KAS and Lahari Ayanamsas is about 54 minutes. > > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Respected Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, > You said Mars is third lord in navamsa also. How it is ? Navamsa lagna is Cp, > therefore third lord is Jup and Venus is in third house of pisces navamsa. I am confused here. Please clarify my doubt. If I am wrong then I can not rely upon this KAS version. In other chart I was getting Tula lagna whereas you people got scorpio lagna. It means all the time my understanding may be wrong.That is why may I request you to clear my doubt of Cp navamsa lagna so Jup is third lord and not Mars as you mentioned in your analysis.Thanks and regards. > Bless me. > RC Mishra > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. > Blessings > Pemmaraju > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pemmaraju, > Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the > strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. > Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am > not aware of that much details. > You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- > 13 date range. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Pemmaraju V.R. > Rayudu " <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri > Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death > analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember > that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for > accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost > correctly. > > > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse > further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a > wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa > also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury > 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected > as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD > Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. > Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus > MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to > Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to > have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord > (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it > is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & > LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for > 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also > Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and > Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same > situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to > 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon > 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be > selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun > transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is > selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept > may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give > result > > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the > 2nd > > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its > SD > > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > > linked to Death. > > > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort > of > > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The > mother > > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest > points > > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next > 2 > > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Dadhi " > > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > > > A questions: > > > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > > early 1990's) ? > > > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > > > all the best, > > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ash > > > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > > Native's Death Puzzle - > > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last > mail. > > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the > native > > or > > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power > so > > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > > native. > > > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to > native > > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death > to > > > mother. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > > note > > > the birth > > > > details: > > > > > > > > Female > > > > 14 November 1978 > > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want > to > > > attempt the > > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > > hopefully the > > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > > death > > > occured. > > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > > reasons, > > > and if > > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > > > Three important things: > > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > > away. > > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > > entertain any > > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on > Feb > > 27th > > > 2006. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ramesh, Mine is KAS 2005 V 2.0. I am not computer boy. May be you uninstall, install again, restart. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, This is the problem with the software. Which software you are using? I am using KAS v2.2.1 and getting Virgo lagna but in Cp navamsa. Actually when everyone uses same software, there should not be any differences in the data. If it is so there might be a bug. However I have to check it up manually. Thanks for the cross checking. Ramesh Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ramesh, I get Lagna Virgo 4 degrees 33 minutes. which gives Aquarius navamsa lagna. Capricorn Navamsa lagna is wrong. You can check up with any other software, ofcourse taking the KAS Ayanamsa.Even with Lahari Ayanamsa, the Navamsa lagna would be Aquarius, because the difference between KAS and Lahari Ayanamsas is about 54 minutes. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir, Namaskar, You said Mars is third lord in navamsa also. How it is ? Navamsa lagna is Cp, therefore third lord is Jup and Venus is in third house of pisces navamsa. I am confused here. Please clarify my doubt. If I am wrong then I can not rely upon this KAS version. In other chart I was getting Tula lagna whereas you people got scorpio lagna. It means all the time my understanding may be wrong.That is why may I request you to clear my doubt of Cp navamsa lagna so Jup is third lord and not Mars as you mentioned in your analysis.Thanks and regards. Bless me. RC Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Thanks a lot Ash that I am not totally wrong. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, pdf of sun - sun comes first and its 15-15 points. However the strongest I feel might be mo-me pdf where Mo = 17 and Me is LoE. Maybe the problems might have started in sun-sun pdf, and that I am not aware of that much details. You are also correct that if Sun-sun gave death then its still in +/- 13 date range. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash (/ Dadhi), > > I did not attempt this death analysis earlier because Shri Krushnaji ( and you also) cautioned me earlier not to do Death analysis and still more work is to be done in this area. I remember that sometime back I attempted a quiz ( from Bala I think) for accident death analysis out of four Month/year combinations almost correctly. > > Of course after you had analysed, there is nothing to analyse further. But still I want to try as follows, which may be totally a wrong approach. Hope you bear with this. > > For 8th, FK is Mars and NK is Mercury, both in 3rd. In Navamsa also FK is Mars for 8th. For Life in 3rd, Mars 3 points and Mercury 5 points and Mars has a zero point also in SAV. So Mars is selected as MD. But the period given for checking is from 1990 to 2000 and MD Mars is beyond this bracket. Then SDs to Mars are Mercury and Sun. Mercury MD also will not fall in the given bracket. The first Venus MD is not connected to Mars. The next Sun & Moon MDs are SDs to Mars. Sun would dominate Mars as SD compared to Moon (I remember to have read some where). So Sun MD is selected. Also Mars is 3rd lord (in Navamsa also) and the death is not in 3 rd lord dasa, and so it is not natural death. Since Sun is selected as MD and Sun is FK & LoE to 7th (sudden/ accident), it may be of sudden type. > > Then for fixing the AD take the LoD Saturn and LoE Mercury for 8th. Since Saturn has more points than Mercury in 8 th and also Saturn has the maximum points 28 in 8th, Saturn AD is selected. > > Sun MD-Saturn AD is from 14 March 96 to 24 Feb 97. Saturn and Jupiter are slightly connected to A, B, C / their lords. Almost same situation is in Navamsa also. So the Second sector from 8 July 96 to 1 Nov 96 is selected to be on the safe side. > > Then for fixing the Sun transit, since 8th has Saturn 28, Moon 17, Sun 15, Mercury 12 points, either of the first three can be selected. Since Sun is more concerned as MD for 8th and 7th, Sun transit in Sun sign and Sun star from 13 Sept to 16 Sept is selected. A margin of about 10 days after this upto about 26th Sept may be given to cover the rest of the Sun star also. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Dadhi, > > W.r.t your first question the way I thought (and topic of death is > not covered) but Venus is aspecting 8th house so it cant give result > its SD will give result. Next MD was that of Sun who is in the 2nd > house and SD to Venus i.e. 2nd lord so Karak for accident and its SD > to Mercury who is Karak for 3rd house so Sun is the MD that is > linked to Death. > > So If death were to happen in Sun MD then it will have some sort of > Accident component (SD to Ve) and some component of fatality or > death (Mercury as karak for 3rd). That is why I chose Sun MD. > > W.r.t your second question, yes that is why I had written very end > of Sa antra for death of native and Mercury for mother. The mother > of the native died after 14 days after the death of Daughter. > > The native is born in Venus MD. So a small change in time can > change the start and end of MD. But that is all rectification. > > But Just focussing on our laws for timing of an event and that of > death we generally say that death will happen in the highest points > for 8th house and for narrowing the event, i.e. pdf, take the next 2 > strongest significators. So here Sa antra has highest points for > 8th house and then pdf of or suns transit into sign of mercury and > nak moon gave the event. Moon is 2nd highest and Mercury is LoE. > > Just the very baics of KAS for timing of any event. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Dadhi " > <denis.dumancic@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations for this prediction! > > > > A questions: > > > > 1. why did you choose Su/Me period instead of Ve/Me period (an > early 1990's) ? > > > > 2. mother died in Saturn AD. Saturn is not connected as LoE or > LoD, neither samdharmi do Ju and Ma. Any explanation? > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ash > > > > Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:15 AM > > Native's Death Puzzle - > Attempt that I had given > > > > > > Dear Group, > > This was my attempt and am posting it here as per my last mail. > > Thanks to Krushnaji for teaching me KAS. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > " ashsam73 " wrote: > > > > Dear Bharat, > > I feel that the very end of Su-Sa might be fatal for the native > or > > Su-Me antra can be fatal for both. > > > > I am using Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Sun/Saturn 1996-Mar-14 1997-Feb-24 > > > > Sun/Mercury 1997-Feb-24 1998-Jan-01 > > > > Shani has max power for 8th house in combined Ashtakvarg power so > > its very end i.e say from 1997/feb might give death to the > native. > > > > Otherwise Mercury is lagna lord and eager to give death to native > > and its also in 3rd house with 5 bindus so eager to give death to > > mother. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > " Bharat Hindu Astrology " > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly > note > > the birth > > > details: > > > > > > Female > > > 14 November 1978 > > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi > > > > > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to > > attempt the > > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and > > hopefully the > > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the > death > > occured. > > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological > reasons, > > and if > > > possible, give the reasons for her death. > > > > > > Three important things: > > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed > away. > > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister. > > > 3. It was a sudden death. > > > > > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not > > entertain any > > > private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb > 27th > > 2006. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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