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Dear Ramesh,

 

for timing marriage, dont go for the MD. As soon as the delay is

over, appropriate antra would give marriage. If there is no delay,

then after the legal age is crossed, marriage will take place in

proper antra. There should not be any confusion about this.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash, Goel and list members,

> In continuation of my previous mail I shall analyse the timing

of marriage. As you have mentioned your marriage took place in Jup

antara of Sun MD.

> Your chart does not show any delay. After attaining the age of

21 years you were running with Ve/Me.and then Ketu antar.Me and Ke

can not give marriage,thereafter Sun MD starts Sun is not the karaka

for 7th house,though it is in 2nd house in navamsa.If the position

of Su in navamsa is considered it is OK. In rasi Sun is in 10th

place from second house with Mo and Jup. Sun gets only 4 bindus so

it should not be considered as SD to Jup with 5 bindus in house

2.Antar lord Jup is SD to Ve LoE. So the marriage in Jup antar is

Understood but I could not understand the relevance of Sun MD.

> Ash can you please say something about the Sun MD.?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> Dear Ash, Goel and members, Namaskar,

> I am getting Asc as 19 Sc 28 and Saggitarius Navamsa when the

time is taken as 12: 22 PM.

> I try to analyse this chart. Please guide me at the points where

I am wrong.

> At first sight I found most of the planets has more points in

12th house than that of 11th house. It means your expediture is more

than your income.Mr Goel as you have mentioned you have changed your

job very frequently.You have changed job six times within eight

years. Reason may be disatisfaction.

> House 2, 6, and 10 is ARTH TRIKONE.

> Mo and Jup is karak for dhan sthan and both these planets are in

dhan sthaan with <12 points

> Mars is karaka for 6th house and this karak also is weak with 9

points for sixth house.

> Ju is karaka for 10th house who accrued only 10 points only. Sun

is NK for

> 10 th house who is also weak in 10th house due 11 points. Karaka

Jup is in 2nd house with Moon . This Mo is 12th lord for 10th house

as B.

> Ma and Me is karaka for 11th house who is also weak due to 3 and

11 points for 11th house. Moreover both these planets are in 12th

house from 11th as B and 12th lord Sun is in house B. Though Sun is

with 13 points in 11 house , it is 12th lord for 11th as B.

> Considering all abovementioned karakas viz.Su, Mo, Ma Me and Ju

for the respective houses, it is very difficult for him to gain

financially for the self and for family. This is the reason he is

unable to continue job at one place.

> Further explanation will be given after reading the comments

made by Ash and Guruji up to this point. Whether my understanding of

karaktwa of planet is clear.This chart, as told by Ash, is really an

interesting one and we may learn more while analysing the chart.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra.

>

> mgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote:

> , " mgoel1973 "

> <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List members,

> > Please analyse as per the data and events given and let me know

if

> > further details are required.

> > thanks

> >

> > - In , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Goel, Dadhi, Manoshi and list,

> > >

> > > Why dont you try this chart with the data to see if all things

> fall

> > in place.

> > >

> > > So many events are given by Goel. I think there is slight

> > difference in time. With the current data you are getting

navamsa

> > as Capricorn. Try the chart with time 12:22 pm.

> > >

> > > See if the child birth, abortion, why so many job changes,

> > obtaining of the first job, birth of children, and also birth of

> next

> > child which is expected in June 2006 if they are in line.

> > >

> > > In my analysis I have given that this antra of Guru is

activating

> > 5th house (please read my analysis that is attached below).

Since

> > the question asked was w.r.t. Job, I had said that 5th house is

> > activating and better for education, however in this case for

Goel,

> > its giving him a child.

> > >

> > > This chart was done blindly by me and I was able to see that

at

> > this time antra of 2nd lord is running and with the aid of WS I

was

> > able to say that 5th house is being triggered very strongly.

> > >

> > > In a recent mail it was said that its easy to say things

after

> > event is known, here with this post I am saying that with KAS

you

> > can easily gauge the event. Ofcourse its a given that one has

to

> > first understand KAS.

> > >

> > > I will say this with confidence that with KAS you are able to

see

> > such things more clearly.

> > >

> > > Cast the chart and study it. It is a good study.

> > >

> > > Goel, let me say that your new child will bring you good

fortune.

> > >

> > > Good luck.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , " mgoel1973 "

> > <mgoel1973> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Please note the specific events in my life

> > > > 1993 May-Graduation in science

> > > > 1995 April-PG in technology

> > > > 1995june-First job

> > > > 2003 sept-sixth job

> > > > 1999feb-Marriage

> > > > 2000oct-Daughter born

> > > > After that wife has suffered two abortions and now she is

again

> > > > expecting in june2006.

> > > > Please analyse

> > > >

> > > > In , " ashsam73 "

> > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Goel,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please give some more details on your chart like good

perids

> at

> > > > your career or any other info that might be useful to the

group.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are running Guru antra in Mo MD and it is also the 2nd

> > lord.

> > > > This antra is better for 5th house matters so either you

might

> > take

> > > > some risks or its better for further education. Also the

> effects

> > of

> > > > 2nd lords antra has been demonstrated with many examples and

in

> > > > various charts. You might be facing more opposotion from

> > > > subordinates or might be facing unnecessary worries and also

> some

> > > > toothaches. Your power of Ju is less for 6th, 10th and 11th.

> You

> > > > also might be facing more expenses than income. Antra of

Guru

> is

> > > > till August 2006. Your SA and JU points were 10 at the start

of

> > Ju

> > > > antra and now they are 8. So its ok. Can you please discusss

> your

> > > > current situation for my learnings or say in the given

period

> of

> > Guru

> > > > antra how your job life has been ? It will be appreciated

and

> > good

> > > > learning for myself and list members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter2005-Apr-282006-Aug-28

> > > > >

> > > > > Next antra will be much better w.r.t job. Its that of

Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn2006-Aug-282008-Mar-28

> > > > >

> > > > > Shani is LoD for 6th, LoE for 10th, LoE for 11th and LoD

for

> > 7th

> > > > and its in 7th house with 5 bindus so again its eager to

give

> > result

> > > > for 7th and 2nd house. You can also say that LoE for 10th

house

> > is

> > > > in House D for 10th as B. 16th Sep thru 26th Sep 2006 is a

> > powerful

> > > > time (+/- 13 days either side).

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck and Keep us posted for our learnings,

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " mgoel1973 "

> > > > mgoel1973 wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > Thanks for your response.Yes,I topped all the exams in

my

> > > > > > academics.But now I am not very sharp with my memory.My

> > specific

> > > > > > query is when I will get stability in job/life.Please

tell.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - In , Ash

> > ashsam73

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Goyal,

> > > > > > > Cast your chart and worksheet in KAS2005 program and

> study

> > the

> > > > > > strength of your 6th and 10th house, 11th and 12th

house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12th has more points than 11th. In WS the antras of

Sun,

> > Mo,

> > > > Ma,

> > > > > > Me, Ju, Ve in all of them the points of 12th are more

than

> > 11th.

> > > > At

> > > > > > the same time points of 2nd are also low. The SAV points

> > > > > > distribution from 1st to 5th house are continiously low

as

> > most

> > > > > > planets are between 9th and 3rd house. All 3 dharma

sthan

> > i.e.

> > > > 1st,

> > > > > > 5th and 9th have power less than 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When in difficulties you will be over to overcome it

due

> to

> > the

> > > > > > blessing of your father or guru. This is very important

> > factor in

> > > > > > your life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some senior person like your guru / father or someone

> that

> > u

> > > > > > consider like your father will guide you and that will

help

> u

> > out

> > > > in

> > > > > > times of difficulties.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From the WS you can see that the power in your 6th and

> 10th

> > > > house

> > > > > > are less. Ve to sun distance is more than 45 degrees and

> thsi

> > Ve

> > > > is

> > > > > > aspected by Shani.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your DBCE poitns from lagna , sun and moon are in zig

zag

> > > > > > manner. Your lagna SAV points are 26 and that in navamsa

is

> > 25.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, you must be very brilliant and might have

> photographic

> > > > > > memory. Can you confirm this? You also might be having a

> good

> > > > > > personality and might be good at management.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 21

> > > > > > Sc 15 Jyestha Me Cp Su 0 Vi 55 U.Phalguni Su Cp Mo 6 Sg

> > > > > > 17 Moola Ke Ta Ma 27 Le 58 U.Phalguni Su Sg Me 27 Le

> > > > > > 47 U.Phalguni Su Sg Ju 6 Sg 39 Moola Ke Ta Ve 16 Cn 12

> > > > > > Pushya Sa Sc Sa 27 Ta 46 Mrigashira Ma Vi Ra 0 Cp 19

> > > > > > U.Asadha Su Cp Ke 0 Cn 19 Punarvasu Ju Cn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mgoel1973 mgoel1973 wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My details are

> > > > > > > DOB 16/9/72

> > > > > > > TOB 12 :22 pm

> > > > > > > Place Roorkee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have changed six jobs in past ten years.Please

analyse

> > for

> > > > > > stability.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Ash, Manoshi and members, Namaskar,

I followed you and I too know now not to consider MD Further I want to know

the ignorance of MD lord is only for marriage timings or for other events also.

I accept that MD is not for timing and it is right because the duration of MD is

very long.Then I am unable to understand the role of MD.As is cleared by Ash

that MD lord gives the karkatwa of houses for which he is karak For example take

the chart of Goel. Pls do not misunderstood me mixing the timing of event with

that of MD lord.I am not rpt not using MD for timing.

So far I understood MD lord gives the karaktwa. In the chart of Goel, take for

example the MD of Sun.When you see the chart you will find that Sun is FK for

3rd house owing to rulership and karaka for 4th house due to its occupation and

he is NK for 10th house .Therefore it will give its karaktwa for 3rd

(initiative),

4th house (happiness, education) and 10th house(authority,job ,karma) related

matters. Now our duty is to approach these events to its nearest date.So antras

are to be taken into account. Therefore the role of the MD can not be just

neglected. For marriage it is obvious because marriage is an institution and

age factor is dominating. MD lord is not accounted for marriage but for other

event its account seems to be very prominent.

Am I right or something wrong with me ? Therefore this concept should be

cleared first. I am interested analysing the chart and I posted the role of

karakas in my last posting. I did not get any comment from your side and just

skipped the posting. I do not know myself how far I am correct ?Thanks and

regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

 

for timing marriage, dont go for the MD. As soon as the delay is

over, appropriate antra would give marriage. If there is no delay,

then after the legal age is crossed, marriage will take place in

proper antra. There should not be any confusion about this.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash, Goel and list members,

> In continuation of my previous mail I shall analyse the timing

of marriage. As you have mentioned your marriage took place in Jup

antara of Sun MD.

> Your chart does not show any delay. After attaining the age of

21 years you were running with Ve/Me.and then Ketu antar.Me and Ke

can not give marriage,thereafter Sun MD starts Sun is not the karaka

for 7th house,though it is in 2nd house in navamsa.If the position

of Su in navamsa is considered it is OK. In rasi Sun is in 10th

place from second house with Mo and Jup. Sun gets only 4 bindus so

it should not be considered as SD to Jup with 5 bindus in house

2.Antar lord Jup is SD to Ve LoE. So the marriage in Jup antar is

Understood but I could not understand the relevance of Sun MD.

> Ash can you please say something about the Sun MD.?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> Dear Ash, Goel and members, Namaskar,

> I am getting Asc as 19 Sc 28 and Saggitarius Navamsa when the

time is taken as 12: 22 PM.

> I try to analyse this chart. Please guide me at the points where

I am wrong.

> At first sight I found most of the planets has more points in

12th house than that of 11th house. It means your expediture is more

than your income.Mr Goel as you have mentioned you have changed your

job very frequently.You have changed job six times within eight

years. Reason may be disatisfaction.

> House 2, 6, and 10 is ARTH TRIKONE.

> Mo and Jup is karak for dhan sthan and both these planets are in

dhan sthaan with <12 points

> Mars is karaka for 6th house and this karak also is weak with 9

points for sixth house.

> Ju is karaka for 10th house who accrued only 10 points only. Sun

is NK for

> 10 th house who is also weak in 10th house due 11 points. Karaka

Jup is in 2nd house with Moon . This Mo is 12th lord for 10th house

as B.

> Ma and Me is karaka for 11th house who is also weak due to 3 and

11 points for 11th house. Moreover both these planets are in 12th

house from 11th as B and 12th lord Sun is in house B. Though Sun is

with 13 points in 11 house , it is 12th lord for 11th as B.

> Considering all abovementioned karakas viz.Su, Mo, Ma Me and Ju

for the respective houses, it is very difficult for him to gain

financially for the self and for family. This is the reason he is

unable to continue job at one place.

> Further explanation will be given after reading the comments

made by Ash and Guruji up to this point. Whether my understanding of

karaktwa of planet is clear.This chart, as told by Ash, is really an

interesting one and we may learn more while analysing the chart.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra.

>

> mgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote:

> , " mgoel1973 "

> <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List members,

> > Please analyse as per the data and events given and let me know

if

> > further details are required.

> > thanks

> >

> > - In , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Goel, Dadhi, Manoshi and list,

> > >

> > > Why dont you try this chart with the data to see if all things

> fall

> > in place.

> > >

> > > So many events are given by Goel. I think there is slight

> > difference in time. With the current data you are getting

navamsa

> > as Capricorn. Try the chart with time 12:22 pm.

> > >

> > > See if the child birth, abortion, why so many job changes,

> > obtaining of the first job, birth of children, and also birth of

> next

> > child which is expected in June 2006 if they are in line.

> > >

> > > In my analysis I have given that this antra of Guru is

activating

> > 5th house (please read my analysis that is attached below).

Since

> > the question asked was w.r.t. Job, I had said that 5th house is

> > activating and better for education, however in this case for

Goel,

> > its giving him a child.

> > >

> > > This chart was done blindly by me and I was able to see that

at

> > this time antra of 2nd lord is running and with the aid of WS I

was

> > able to say that 5th house is being triggered very strongly.

> > >

> > > In a recent mail it was said that its easy to say things

after

> > event is known, here with this post I am saying that with KAS

you

> > can easily gauge the event. Ofcourse its a given that one has

to

> > first understand KAS.

> > >

> > > I will say this with confidence that with KAS you are able to

see

> > such things more clearly.

> > >

> > > Cast the chart and study it. It is a good study.

> > >

> > > Goel, let me say that your new child will bring you good

fortune.

> > >

> > > Good luck.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > > , " mgoel1973 "

> > <mgoel1973> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Please note the specific events in my life

> > > > 1993 May-Graduation in science

> > > > 1995 April-PG in technology

> > > > 1995june-First job

> > > > 2003 sept-sixth job

> > > > 1999feb-Marriage

> > > > 2000oct-Daughter born

> > > > After that wife has suffered two abortions and now she is

again

> > > > expecting in june2006.

> > > > Please analyse

> > > >

> > > > In , " ashsam73 "

> > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Goel,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please give some more details on your chart like good

perids

> at

> > > > your career or any other info that might be useful to the

group.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are running Guru antra in Mo MD and it is also the 2nd

> > lord.

> > > > This antra is better for 5th house matters so either you

might

> > take

> > > > some risks or its better for further education. Also the

> effects

> > of

> > > > 2nd lords antra has been demonstrated with many examples and

in

> > > > various charts. You might be facing more opposotion from

> > > > subordinates or might be facing unnecessary worries and also

> some

> > > > toothaches. Your power of Ju is less for 6th, 10th and 11th.

> You

> > > > also might be facing more expenses than income. Antra of

Guru

> is

> > > > till August 2006. Your SA and JU points were 10 at the start

of

> > Ju

> > > > antra and now they are 8. So its ok. Can you please discusss

> your

> > > > current situation for my learnings or say in the given

period

> of

> > Guru

> > > > antra how your job life has been ? It will be appreciated

and

> > good

> > > > learning for myself and list members.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter2005-Apr-282006-Aug-28

> > > > >

> > > > > Next antra will be much better w.r.t job. Its that of

Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn2006-Aug-282008-Mar-28

> > > > >

> > > > > Shani is LoD for 6th, LoE for 10th, LoE for 11th and LoD

for

> > 7th

> > > > and its in 7th house with 5 bindus so again its eager to

give

> > result

> > > > for 7th and 2nd house. You can also say that LoE for 10th

house

> > is

> > > > in House D for 10th as B. 16th Sep thru 26th Sep 2006 is a

> > powerful

> > > > time (+/- 13 days either side).

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck and Keep us posted for our learnings,

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " mgoel1973 "

> > > > mgoel1973 wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > Thanks for your response.Yes,I topped all the exams in

my

> > > > > > academics.But now I am not very sharp with my memory.My

> > specific

> > > > > > query is when I will get stability in job/life.Please

tell.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - In , Ash

> > ashsam73

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Goyal,

> > > > > > > Cast your chart and worksheet in KAS2005 program and

> study

> > the

> > > > > > strength of your 6th and 10th house, 11th and 12th

house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12th has more points than 11th. In WS the antras of

Sun,

> > Mo,

> > > > Ma,

> > > > > > Me, Ju, Ve in all of them the points of 12th are more

than

> > 11th.

> > > > At

> > > > > > the same time points of 2nd are also low. The SAV points

> > > > > > distribution from 1st to 5th house are continiously low

as

> > most

> > > > > > planets are between 9th and 3rd house. All 3 dharma

sthan

> > i.e.

> > > > 1st,

> > > > > > 5th and 9th have power less than 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When in difficulties you will be over to overcome it

due

> to

> > the

> > > > > > blessing of your father or guru. This is very important

> > factor in

> > > > > > your life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some senior person like your guru / father or someone

> that

> > u

> > > > > > consider like your father will guide you and that will

help

> u

> > out

> > > > in

> > > > > > times of difficulties.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From the WS you can see that the power in your 6th and

> 10th

> > > > house

> > > > > > are less. Ve to sun distance is more than 45 degrees and

> thsi

> > Ve

> > > > is

> > > > > > aspected by Shani.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your DBCE poitns from lagna , sun and moon are in zig

zag

> > > > > > manner. Your lagna SAV points are 26 and that in navamsa

is

> > 25.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, you must be very brilliant and might have

> photographic

> > > > > > memory. Can you confirm this? You also might be having a

> good

> > > > > > personality and might be good at management.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 21

> > > > > > Sc 15 Jyestha Me Cp Su 0 Vi 55 U.Phalguni Su Cp Mo 6 Sg

> > > > > > 17 Moola Ke Ta Ma 27 Le 58 U.Phalguni Su Sg Me 27 Le

> > > > > > 47 U.Phalguni Su Sg Ju 6 Sg 39 Moola Ke Ta Ve 16 Cn 12

> > > > > > Pushya Sa Sc Sa 27 Ta 46 Mrigashira Ma Vi Ra 0 Cp 19

> > > > > > U.Asadha Su Cp Ke 0 Cn 19 Punarvasu Ju Cn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mgoel1973 mgoel1973 wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My details are

> > > > > > > DOB 16/9/72

> > > > > > > TOB 12 :22 pm

> > > > > > > Place Roorkee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have changed six jobs in past ten years.Please

analyse

> > for

> > > > > > stability.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Yes Ramesh, I have seen the topic being brought up here, but I was

not interested, nor was Ash I guess only because of the uncertainity

of the birth time.

 

Ramesh, do you have any other charts to solve (with confirmed event

times)? Please post them so we can learn.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Mam Manoshi and dear Jagdish, Namaskar,

> Just do not blame the group without knowing the fact. Manoshi, I

think you overlooked the message no.10931. I would like to advise

you to read this message. At first instance tw took initiative to

raise the issue of Pramod Mahajan, then I replied tw and after that

Jagdish also raised the issue. Since it was a serious issue and

there was no authentic birth chart. What ever chart I could pick up

from other group I analysed it and put before the forum. When you

read my analysis you may find out something from the message and you

may correct me wherever i am wrong. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

> Dear Jagdish,

>

> As I gather, you have a lot of doubts about astrology. I have been

a

> student of science, and I myself dont believe in things unless

they

> are really proven to me. I have tested this and experienced that

KAS

> works very well, if the chart is right. It is a straight forward

> approach. With the help pf KAS, astrologers confirm the events of

> the past by applying the same principle that they would apply to

> predcit the future, so there is no trick (as it sounded from your

> mail). I could give you examples how KAS has worked for my life

(Ash

> had predicted, and how amazed I was).Mind you, the prediction were

> for the future and they have come true so far.

>

> Coming to Pramod Mahajan's death, you must have noticed that none

of

> us attempted the chart on this group, as it's a waste of time and

> energy to unnecessarily try to solve a chart which we are not sure

> of the birth time. For study purpose, we must take charts with

> almost known birth time or at least of people with whom we can

> confirm some events of life.

>

> Lastly, as I always say, its not the fault of astrology but

> astrologers who err and give wrong predictions.

>

> regards

> Manoshi

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sir Ash

> >

> > Just few days ago i was listening lecture of Pt. Sanjay Rath

on

> Pramod Mahajan. He said firmly that situation is critical for him

> but he will survive. Mr. Pramod Mahajan's horoscope was discussed

on

> all the astrology group.

> >

> > Some asked Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji that how are you sure about his

> birth details and he said that his family members told him.

> >

> > Now all the astrologers predicted that he will survive but

after

> struggle. Noone said that he will die.

> >

> > But he passes away.

> >

> > I have seen it many many times that when it comes to

predicting

> the future and in that predicting critical situation then many

many

> astrologers fail (including Pt. K. N. Rao). While any astrologer

can

> verify past with the help of astrology.

> >

> > Just two days ago, Pt. Sanjay Rath gave lecture that why he

> survived. He showed many reasons for his survival. What happened

to

> his reasons ?

> >

> > Jagdish

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > Dear Ramesh and Jagdish,

> > From what I read from www.timesofindia.com

> >

> > " Senior BJP leader Pramod Mahajan died at Mumbai's Hinduja

> Hospital

> > on Wednesday afternoon. He was 56. Mahajan had been shot by his

> > younger brother on April 22. "

> >

> > The age given by Times Of India is 56 years. So technically his

> > year of birth should be 1950.

> >

> > So now we have 3 different years of birth floating around viz-a-

> viz

> > 1948, 1949 and 1950.

> >

> > Then on the other hand there are birth data of twins where a few

> > mins might change a lot of things......

> >

> > Interesting eh !!

> >

> > May His Soul rest in Peace.

> >

> > Ash

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagdish,

> > > I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even

in

> > > earlier posts you had asked similar thing.

> > > There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those

> in

> > > India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give

> > > misleading information.

> > > Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you

is

> > > cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it

is

> > not

> > > then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is

authentic

> or

> > > not?

> > > There are so many needy people that would love to receive some

> > help

> > > regarding their charts who might give u authentic information

> and

> > > share data which can also facilitate your learning process.

> > >

> > > If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20

solid

> > > events and then study and match each and every event with the

> time

> > > and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future

> prediction

> > > if u find that all events are matching or coming close.

> > >

> > > For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if

> 1949

> > is

> > > the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is

> the

> > > place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three

> DoB,

> > > ToB and PoB are in question.

> > >

> > > If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and

> > verifiable

> > > events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and

> > > predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help

u

> in

> > > the long run.

> > >

> > > Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors,

> > > actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These

> charts

> > > can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details.

> > >

> > > Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing

game.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn

> Chawan

> > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sir Ash and other members

> > > >

> > > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's

chart ?

> > > >

> > > > October 30, 1948

> > > > Time: 9:21:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 "

> > > > Hyderabad, India

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I got the details from other group.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone

> calls.

> > > Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min.

> > > >

> > > >

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